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What Happend To George Gink??

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As a person from a nation of 50,000,000 sheep… i have always thought of a Clark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You can screw all the COWS you want.  I want the good stuff (skinny, young, good looking and easy). <bseg — Warren (poonnanny connoisseur) A mohair goat? What is it with you guys and your goats?  Some kind of eastern thing? — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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Hold that thought Warren, it will bring you a lifetime of fun. It seems to work for several people I have met on ROFF and in life. Figured what the hell, I’ll give it a try. ;-)

I got carded buying a couple bottles of wine day before yesterday. Wolfgang it’s kind of a strange world out there.

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@mcw.edu: Hold that thought Warren, it will bring you a lifetime of fun. It seems to work for several people I have met on ROFF and in life. Figured what the hell, I’ll give it a try. ;-) I got carded buying a couple bottles of wine day before yesterday. Wolfgang it’s kind of a strange world out there.

The guy behind the counter probably just wanted your name and address so he could consult with you on his major wine purchases :) Scott

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The guy behind the counter probably just wanted your name and address so he

could consult with you on his major wine purchases :) <   Nah, probably just wanted to hit on him.  <g   Harry last time I got carded I was 31

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The guy behind the counter probably just wanted your name and address so he could consult with you on his major wine purchases :) <   Nah, probably just wanted to hit on him.  <g   Harry last time I got carded I was 31

I was 28. My wife was 30. G.C.

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last time I got carded I was 31

One of the metro Atlanta counties has a law that requires everyone to show ID to purchase alcohol. Come on down if you want to get carded again. <g — Charlie…

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<< One of the metro Atlanta counties has a law that requires everyone to show ID to purchase alcohol. Come on down if you want to get carded again. <g   Interesting.  Damn sure ain’t the county the airport is in.   Harry   got drunk there once waitin for a flight to Little Rock

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Wondering why George isnt posting to the newgroup..

His ISP finally wized up? Is he ok?

No. Never was. Anyone know whats up with him??

No. Couldn’t figure that out either. Thanks

HTH, Tim

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George, is that you? –please remuv the ‘NOWAY2it’ from my email addy to email me–

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He’s traveling andwon’t have access for a while. Paul

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Old fly fisherman don’t die, they just smell that way. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Old fly fisherman don’t die, they just smell that way.

Sure, that’s what all of you old farts say…… <bseg — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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Old fly fisherman don’t die, they just smell that way.

Sure, that’s what all of you old farts say…… <bseg As opposed to you young studs, right Warren?   Harry old fart (ex young stud)

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As opposed to you young studs, right Warren?  

:-) Nah, I already passed the young stud mark.  I’m in that pre-40, getting older and knowing it while certain things don’t work as well as they used to, but trying to delay the transition for as long as I can stage.   — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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As opposed to you young studs, right Warren? :-) Nah, I already passed the young stud mark.  I’m in that pre-40, getting older and knowing it while certain things don’t work as well as they used to, but trying to delay the transition for as long as I can stage.

If you discover this secret of staying forever young, as I have, you must *swear* not to tell the other roffians. As anyone who has met me can attest, I have discovered this secret and my Adonis-like, svelte profile and stunning good looks keep others wondering, "Just how does he manage to look that good and stay that fit?" Of course, this could be bullshit. — TL, Tim (everyone looks better over the Internet)

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Old fly fisherman don’t die, they just smell that way. Sure, that’s what all of you old farts say…… <bseg As opposed to you young studs, right Warren?   Harry old fart (ex young stud)

…walk down the hill —- all the cows.

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…walk down the hill —- all the cows.

You can screw all the COWS you want.  I want the good stuff (skinny, young, good looking and easy). <bseg — Warren (poonnanny connoisseur) change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As opposed to you young studs, right Warren? :-) Nah, I already passed the young stud mark.  I’m in that pre-40, getting older and knowing it while certain things don’t work as well as they used to, but trying to delay the transition for as long as I can stage. If you discover this secret of staying forever young, as I have, you must *swear* not to tell the other roffians. As anyone who has met me can attest, I have discovered this secret and my Adonis-like, svelte profile and stunning good looks keep others wondering, "Just how does he manage to look that good and stay that fit?" Of course, this could be bullshit. — TL, Tim (everyone looks better over the Internet)

What bothers me at times is that I still get carded for buying a can of chew sometimes.  You only have to be 18 to buy chew and the people selling the chew are a lot younger than I, but for some reason they think I am the younger one!  WTF?!?!?!  I wish my body felt as young as I look….  Bone spurs in the neck, hands and lower arms that go numb, a freaking vertebrae that has decided to slip due to an old injury which can’t be put back in place by a freaking chiropractor (says it will take surgery or a life of pain to deal with).  Screw aging!  I have better things to do….. — Warren (who just wishes he could convince his BODY to follow along with his mentality/mental outlook, but is still trying!) change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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You can screw all the COWS you want.  I want the good stuff (skinny, young, good looking and easy). <bseg — Warren (poonnanny connoisseur)

A mohair goat? — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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You can screw all the COWS you want.  I want the good stuff (skinny, young, good looking and easy). <bseg — Warren (poonnanny connoisseur) A mohair goat?

What is it with you guys and your goats?  Some kind of eastern thing? — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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  Screw aging!  I have better things to do…..

Hold that thought Warren, it will bring you a lifetime of fun. Chas

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Hold that thought Warren, it will bring you a lifetime of fun.

It seems to work for several people I have met on ROFF and in life.   Figured what the hell, I’ll give it a try. ;-) — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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Hello Wondering why George isnt posting to the newgroup..Is he ok? Anyone know whats up with him?? Thanks Jimmy

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Hello Wondering why HWMNBM isnt posting to the newgroup..Is he ok? Anyone know whats up with him?? Thanks Jimmy

Dammit, I suppose this will trigger another round of stupidity Flyfish – the stupidity line probably starts here

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Hello Wondering why George isnt posting to the newgroup..Is he ok? Anyone know whats up with him??

Who knows?  More to the point, who cares? — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » Close nymphing

Close nymphing

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Hello all, Now that it’s midwinter, I am doing much fishing in my mind, thinking about the season to come.  I have thought about how the focus on my fishing during the 10 years I have lived in New York has gone from nymphing to dry fly fishing.  I do all styles and approaches, but I do find that I seek out situations where I am most likely to get them on top. I probably should nymph more than I do, because you can do it without a hatch, and there are better chances of getting bigger fish.  I just get annoyed how deep nymphing is better suited with different rods, lines, and leaders than dry fly fishing.  I find it awkward to switch back and forth on the stream, and I refuse to carry 2 rods onto the water. One thing about the technique – I do most nymphing in close – with a rodlength or 2 of line out, no more.  I find it very hard to control the drift beyond that.  Can anybody give me some discussion about nymphing in close/far away?  About good nymphing leader recipies(I tie my own)?  About how spooky fish react to your closeness to them? Pete Collin

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Peter, I think you’re doing the right thing restricting you line length, I’m very disciplined about that using a maximum of one myself while searching pocket water and runs.  If I see a fish, I will lengthen line as the circumstances allow rather than approach to close. It does take a fair bit of concentration which can be nice to alleviate with a dry fly presentation every now and then – often I find the fish taking the dry will take the nymph quite readily. I’m happy to use the same leader for both dry and nymph – adding or deleting tippett where required … length is a rod length (7.5 – 9ft) and thats it. Formulae is the simple 60 20 20 occasionally I’ll use a furled butt section of 4lb mono usually where there is room to swing the rod for a decent hook set.   What is important is the nymph swimming level, especially when searching water for fish that are not visible.  Usually tight to the bottom requires a fly somewhere down there to attract their interest. However you prefer to get the fly down, weight in the fly or a shotted up leader is immaterial as long as it is in the zone.   Casting might not seem important in such circumstance but it is … if you can cast (by whatever means) so that the leader doesn’t straighten properly the fly will sink further than if it does straighten.  I sometimes think it is forgotten that this is something that can be used to great effect in controlling the depth of a nymph for long or short distance nymphing with weighty flies. The Flies themselves are an interesting topic … Steve

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One thing about the technique – I do most nymphing in close – with a rodlength or 2 of line out, no more.  I find it very hard to control the drift beyond that.  Can anybody give me some discussion about nymphing in close/far away?

No simple answers here, Peter. Nymphing is a big topic. It’s worth a few books and quite a few have been written. There are a variety of techniques that allow you to nymph in close, as far as you can cast, just under the surface, bouncing on the bottom, etc. etc. etc. It take times to learn the different techniques, more time to get decent with them, but what’s probably the most difficult to learn is where and when to use the different techniques. Like dry fly fishing, control is much easier if your casts are short. If the situation warrants it, you are going to be more successful fishing in close. Like Jeff and Dave pointed out, you can often get very close to fish when they are feeding on the bottom, especially in broken water. They are much more secure than fish feeding on the surface. However, there are several other things that dictate how close you can get. Because of a number of factors, trout in some streams and rivers are more spooky. Much tougher to get close to these fish without spooking them. On placid sections, it is often difficult to get close to fish without spooking them, etc. On big rivers, depth and current speed are going to prevent you from wading close enough for a short cast to many prime areas. For example, the most productive area we fished at Henry’s Fork this fall, required long casts to reach some of the best lies. I also dislike rerigging all the time on the water. IMO, for most nymphing, a short leader butt with a couple of long tippet sections is better for nymphing than a traditional tapered leader.  The thinner tippet sections allow the fly to sink more readily, act more naturally and also allow you to use less weight (which I like). However, more often, I just add a long tippet section to a regular tapered leader. That way it’s much easier to switch back to a dry. This does mean, at least when fishing deep water, my leader is very long. Willi

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One thing about the technique – I do most nymphing in close – with a rodlength or 2 of line out, no more.  I find it very hard to control the drift beyond that.  Can anybody give me some discussion about nymphing in close/far away?

Another thing – learn the "tuck cast".  It’s great for shorter distance casting in pocket water when you need to get the nymph down to fish-catchin’ level ASAP.  Much easier with a split shot near the nymph or a weighted nymph.

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One thing about the technique – I do most nymphing in close – with a rodlength or 2 of line out, no more.  I find it very hard to control the drift beyond that.  Can anybody give me some discussion about nymphing in close/far away?

A longer rod certainly helps.  In fact, I’m thinking of going to a 9.5 to 10 foot rod for heavy nymphing and might ask about that here soon.  For closer nymphing with a "high stick" (controlling depth and slack by raising and lowering your rod), I think you’re better off with no strike indicator. This is especially true in deeper, broken water with rocks where the depth keeps changing.  The farther away you get, especially if you are not sight nymphing in clear water, and especially if the depth is constant, the more a strike indicator will help you.  With steady water flow (not a lot of broken water and mixed currents), you can get in some fairly long casts with an indicator.  About good nymphing leader recipies(I tie my own)?

Tying your own is convenient if you use a foam indicator or other indicator that you can slide around, since you have a number of knots that act as "stops" for the indicator.  As far as material, Maxima works good but it’s not the strongest per diameter, so I’m looking for something else in the tippet.  Flouro is too damn expensive, and Orvis Super Strong has broken a lot on me – it’s strong, but it’s simply not very abrasion resistant IMO. Look up Borger’s "uni-body" leader if you want simplicity.  With a bit of lead on the leader, we’re not going to quibble over the whether the 6th section should be 15 or 17" for best turnover, eh?  About how spooky fish react to your closeness to them?

In bouldery pocket water with deeper runs and chop on top, you can get virtually on top of them (assuming you can’t see them).  In fact I’ve gone in with my arm up to my shoulder to pull out a snag, and continued to fish the run and catch fish.  In smoother spring creek type water, and for sight nymphing, ask elsewhere :-)

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I’m confused by this statement. Would you please elaborate? — Citizen Fisherman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m happy to use the same leader for both dry and nymph – adding or deleting tippett where required … length is a rod length (7.5 – 9ft) and thats it.

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Peter Collin writes: One thing about the technique – I do most nymphing in close – with a rodlength or 2 of line out, no more.  I find it very hard to control the drift beyond that.  Can anybody give me some discussion about nymphing in close/far away?  About good nymphing leader recipies(I tie my own)?  About how spooky fish react to your closeness to them? Pete Collin

Hi, Peter.  Most of my nymphing is within 15 feet of me, but there are the occasions (quite often, really) when an actual distance cast can be of some use.  Up and across (with or without an indicator) seems to work best for me. I am talking, maybe, 30 or so feet.   I have found that the nymph must get down to the bottom for best results.  The best way I have found to do this is to use non-toxic split shot.  If you do not know the water you will have to experiment with the size/amount of shot.  Your leader/line or indicator should move slower than the surface water (unlike dry fly fishing).  The water near the bottom of the pool/run/etc is moving slower than the surface water.  Therefore, you have to slow down your drift.  Gary Borger in a recent tutorial stated that if your indicator is moving the same speed as the surface water, you have to add more weight (split shot, bead head, whatever).  If I use an indicator, it is usually the yarn type with the o-ring attached.  Put some floatant on and it never sinks. I prefer a leader somewhere between 7 1/2 to 9 feet, with an additional 3 or so feet of tippet.  I generally use a 4x leader with 4x or 5x fluorocarbon tippet.  About 3 feet above the fly (at the leader/tippet knot), I place my shot.  I seldom fish a double. To switch over to dries, simply snip off the fluorocarbon tippet and add 3 feet of mono 5x.  I always use a floating line, btw.  It is easier to mend.  My favorite rod is a Sage SP 9 foot 4 weight. Spooky fish?  I’ve caught fish right at my feet on Maine, MA, NY, PA, and NM waters.  The fish in Idaho were a little more spooky and most of my hook-ups were at a distance, up and across.  The fish in Labrador were very spooky and in four years, I managed to catch only 2 small (2 – 3 pounds) brook trout on caddis worms.  It is a dry fly fisherman’s heaven!  d;0) A lengthy reply……sorry.  HTH Dave

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Iron Blue Fly Fishing (?)

Iron Blue Fly Fishing (?)

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Anyone know why this wonderful show is no longer carried by the "Toronto Sports Network" (TSN). I think one would be hard pressed to find a better show in the genre and I am sooo sick of the current offerings, really almost totally void of any quality fly fishing programs – I think if I see Henry and Italio again I’m going to take hostages! You have to wonder that if the CRTC was abolished tommorrow, most of the fishing shows currently we are forced to watch would not last one season. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Anyone know why this wonderful show is no longer carried by the "Toronto Sports Network" (TSN). I think one would be hard pressed to find a better show in the genre and I am sooo sick of the current offerings, really almost totally void of any quality fly fishing programs – I think if I see Henry and Italio again I’m going to take hostages! You have to wonder that if the CRTC was abolished tommorrow, most of the fishing shows currently we are forced to watch would not last one season.

Bill Ya, the show just disappeared off the tube and I haven’t seen a trace of it.  Speaking of hostages and H & I, these shows are total hostages of the sponsors, they have to work in the product constantly to the point that the show is a 30 minute commercial.  IBFF never once mentioned the product and concentrated on fishing, maybe that was their downfall? Peter

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The show was finded by OLF and was not renewed after it’s second season was completed last year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know why this wonderful show is no longer carried by the "Toronto Sports Network" (TSN). I think one would be hard pressed to find a better show in the genre and I am sooo sick of the current offerings, really almost totally void of any quality fly fishing programs – I think if I see Henry and Italio again I’m going to take hostages! You have to wonder that if the CRTC was abolished tommorrow, most of the fishing shows currently we are forced to watch would not last one season. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Line » Winter Bass

Winter Bass

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I have a friend who’s been breaking my balls about how he’s been hooking up consistently with winter largemouths.(He’s a spin fisherman)The winters haven’t been very cold in the northeast lately so many lakes and ponds have yet to freeze over.I’ve tried a few different things with my flytackle but I haven’t been able to hook up.I did get a bass once two years ago,while fishing for hatcheries,using a large dry with a hares ear dropper size 12.If anyone out there is having sucess in this area I’d appreciate the info.I want to shove a nice size bass right in that smug bastards face.

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Even if the water hasn’t frozen, you need to go deep and slow for these northern winter largemouths. Not really what you would call typical fly-fishing.  You might want to try a slow sinking line.  It would take forever to get your fly down into the strike zone but unlike a fast sink line you’ll be able to fish slowly and still keep the fly in the fish zone once it gets down there. A Carolina rigged plastic worm or salamander would be my recommendation. Mu

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I am in the south fishing in temps of the 40’s.Tp our bass thats the same as hanging out wit Ms. Pauls. I go to a pattern I tie called a Crystal Puff. It is White long cactus chanille head with X lg bead chain eyes, with a tail of whit bucktail and crystal flash with wide white hackle feathers (3 together on each side) or my favorite silver badger feathers. All of this on a mustad 2/0 – 3/0 hook #7766 Fish it slow with quick darts. On days that the temp does rise look for flats and shoals with dark bottoms with EZ access to deep drop offs. They will come up to warm up there. Good luck. It has been working for me.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Ethics ?

Ethics ?

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Phew. Good story. How about more of this? Who out there among us has ever written a story for publication, only to have it rejected by some pip-squeek assistant editor? Why not publish yourself on the web? right here? This beats the hell out of C&R pissing. — /* Sandy Pittendrigh                  –oO0  * http://www.nervana.montana.edu/~sandy  */

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Why not publish yourself on the web? right here?

What, and give away blood, sweat & tears FOR FREE ? My literary agent would have a coronary. :-) — Ken Fortenberry

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‘There’s nothing like making a definitive stement on the net to provehow wrong you are’

Too true, too true!

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Seemingly oblivious to the arcane machinations and unexplainable antics of a veritable host of erstwhile anglers, walkers, canoers, frustrated lovers, and usually inebriated potential suicides on the bridge above, the large and reputedly ancient trout lay just below the second brick foundation of the first bridge arch.  According to local folklore he weighed in excess of ten pounds, but he was apparently oblivious of his fame as well.   He rose occasionally and slurped a particularly inviting morsel from the calm lane at the side of the fast water caused by the water rushing through the narrows of the arch.

(remarkable story snipped) Allright, then, Mike, would it be true? Which part did you play? Mark Faulkner

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(remarkable story snipped) Allright, then, Mike, would it be true? Which part did you play? Mark Faulkner

Perfectly true, I know, I was that trout ! TL MC

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Damn bait fisherman!  We need more bartenders like that around all trout streams! Warren

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Seemingly oblivious to the arcane machinations and unexplainable antics of a veritable host of erstwhile anglers, walkers, canoers, frustrated lovers, and usually inebriated potential suicides on the bridge above, the large and reputedly ancient trout lay just below the second brick foundation of the first bridge arch.  According to local folklore he weighed in excess of ten pounds, but he was apparently oblivious of his fame as well.   He rose occasionally and slurped a particularly inviting morsel from the calm lane at the side of the fast water caused by the water rushing through the narrows of the arch. If some of the local worthies were to be believed he had been doing this every summer for the last ten years. Experts and tyros, men of letters, small boys with worms,  although the water was fly only, and even lowly poachers,  had all attempted the difficult cast at one time or another over the years, some even successfully, the jaw of the fish was laced with white scars easily visible in the clear water, testimony to the "barbs and arrows of outrageous fortune" to which he had been subjected and which he now bore with seeming nonchalance, perhaps even truculent pride. A hard won but most excellent education.  In the "Stag

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dough baits!!!!!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know there is a dough bait that you mix cornmeal and some other stuff in it, if you can help me out i will be very thankful!! Hey there.  Ever since I was a kid we used a recipe with cornmeal for catching carp.  It worked great.  To make it, put some water on the stove and wait until it boils.  When it’s boiling, throw some cornmeal in there.  Mix it around and add flour (to make it firm, so it doesn’t fly off the hook.)  Also add sugar, honey, peanut butter, and whatever else you want to try (vanilla flavoring, syrup, garlic powder, etc.)  Good fishing.   =) Add some red food coloring, too – carp can detect color, I’m told. And believe it or not, a little after-shave mixed in works wonders!

Sounds like the one I grew up with. Except use Red Jello. Makes a real mess in the pan but it sticks together real nice! I can remember my dad making it however I don’t remember how much of what. Skyway Steve

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I know there is a dough bait that you mix cornmeal and some other stuff in it, if you can help me out i will be very thankful!!

Hey there.  Ever since I was a kid we used a recipe with cornmeal for catching carp.  It worked great.  To make it, put some water on the stove and wait until it boils.  When it’s boiling, throw some cornmeal in there.  Mix it around and add flour (to make it firm, so it doesn’t fly off the hook.)  Also add sugar, honey, peanut butter, and whatever else you want to try (vanilla flavoring, syrup, garlic powder, etc.)  Good fishing.   =)

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I know there is a dough bait that you mix cornmeal and some other stuff in it, if you can help me out i will be very thankful!! Hey there.  Ever since I was a kid we used a recipe with cornmeal for catching carp.  It worked great.  To make it, put some water on the stove and wait until it boils.  When it’s boiling, throw some cornmeal in there.  Mix it around and add flour (to make it firm, so it doesn’t fly off the hook.)  Also add sugar, honey, peanut butter, and whatever else you want to try (vanilla flavoring, syrup, garlic powder, etc.)  Good fishing.   =)

Add some red food coloring, too – carp can detect color, I’m told. And believe it or not, a little after-shave mixed in works wonders!

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Sinking Lines-Need advice

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In a couple of weeks I’m going to British Columbia (Chilko Lake/Tsy-los park). One of the fishing opportunities there is fishing on a mountain lake for Dolly Varden. I’ve been told to bring a sinking line. I have never used a sinking line and find there are a wide variety of brands and sink rates available. Can anyone advise me on which line type would be the best for this setting? Thanks! Steve Rosenblum

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In a couple of weeks I’m going to British Columbia (Chilko Lake/Tsy-los park). One of the fishing opportunities there is fishing on a mountain lake for Dolly Varden. I’ve been told to bring a sinking line. I have never used a sinking line and find there are a wide variety of brands and sink rates available. Can anyone advise me on which line type would be the best for this setting? Thanks! Steve Rosenblum

Hi Steve! Depends on the depth–and this is no wisecrack answer.  A lot of my lake fishing is done in water less than 8 feet deep and I like to fish out a cast.  So, my favorite lake sinking line is a slow sink (I think scientific Anglers calls it an imtermediate line.I can use this line because I generally dont fish deep lakes when the water is warm and the fish less active.  If you fish deeper you need a line with a faster sink rate.  The make a bunch of them. If I were guessing, I would go for a wet cel II line–it will get down relatively fast, but dont plan on fishing 30 feet down with it!! Also, I prefer full sinking lines for lake fishing–personal preference, but I fish slow and deep and sinking tip lines tend to drag with the wind across the top of the water. Best Luck!! Paul

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In a couple of weeks I’m going to British Columbia (Chilko Lake/Tsy-los park). One of the fishing opportunities there is fishing on a mountain lake for Dolly Varden. I’ve been told to bring a sinking line. I have never used a sinking line and find there are a wide variety of brands and sink rates available. Can anyone advise me on which line type would be the best for this setting?

Hi Steve, I like to use a type II sinking line for fishing around 10 ft. deep, a type III for 10 to 15 and a type V (don’t do this often) for 20+ ft. of depth.  Of course, I am kind of impatient and I hate long countdowns to get to the fish.   Keep in mind that the speed of the retrieve you use will also have an effect on how deep your fly actually swims.   A quickly retrieved type III will often fish at the same depth as a slow to medium retrieve on a type II.  See if you can find out the depth that you will most often be fishing at this lake (not the depth of the lake, but rather the depth you will fish), and make your choice from there.                           Good Fishing,                               Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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how to fight bigger fish????

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Hmmm…fighting fish up to 8lbs. in fast moving water on 6x tippet??…boy, I’d say what you have there is a spectator sport.  Hookem’ and watch them go!…all my flyfishing experts that a consult with on an almost daily basis tell me to keep the rod fairly high, and only lower the tip of the rod when the fish jumps.  They also tell me you shouldn’t expect to land many 8 pounders in fast water with 6x tippet.

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Can anyone give me some advice on how to land fairly large (up

to 8lbs.) brown trout on a 6x tippet? Try a .357 magnum. Otherwise, I would question whether it is the *tippet* that is bothering the fish in pocket water, unless you are still using nylon which does tend to be a bit stiff. Softer tippet material in a heavier weight may be worth a try. — Ken Clark Ft. Lupton, CO

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: strike.   The chemists of the world have done some amazing things with : tippet, and 6X is pretty darn strong these days.   Thank ya, thank ya very much!  I’m glad someone is paying attention.   Better fishing through chemistry. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Can anyone give me some advice on how to land fairly large (up to 8lbs.) brown trout on a 6x tippet?  I have heard that it is better to keep the rod tip low because sideways pressure doesn’t spook the fish as much as upward pressure does.  any thoughts on this?  My problem is that I fish the pocket water section of the Provo River and because of precarious footing, I can’t chase the trout up or down stream and if I use a heavier tippet, they won’t take the fly.  Help!!!!!! G-Man

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Water Otters-any comments?

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I’m seriously considering purchasing a Water Otter for use on various Montana and Wyoming waters.  They interest me because I want a craft that is suitable for both still and moving water, although I am not foolish enough (yet) to try something like this on whitewater.  I would love to hear from anyone that has had experience with these craft. Specifically, what are their limitations and are you satisfied with your purchase?   Would you buy one again if you had to do it all over again?   Recommendations on other models are also welcome. – –

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Dale , I too am intrested in water otters. However last year I built a kick boat that has really opened new horizons for me.I usually fish the Yakima which is very similar in size to the Blackfoot. My kick boat is made to fit in my Grand Cherokee. Has an aluminum frame with rowing risers and floats of laminated coated styrofoam. it cost a hundred or so and has generated requests for plans whererer I go.  It can go through about 4" of water and has gone through some swift- but not rapids- water. Some day i’ll write up my plans. Herb

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: Dale , : I too am intrested in water otters. However last year I built a kick boat : that has really opened new horizons for me.I usually fish the Yakima which : is very similar in size to the Blackfoot. My kick boat is made to fit in : my Grand Cherokee. Has an aluminum frame with rowing risers and floats of : laminated coated styrofoam. it cost a hundred or so and has generated : requests for plans whererer I go.  It can go through about 4" of water and : has gone through some swift- but not rapids- water. Some day i’ll write up : my plans. : Herb I too built a kickboat (the WaterSkater, plans available in most fly fishing mags) And I love it.  No problems with inflation, it is stable as sitting on the floor, and Herb’s comment about getting requests for information every time he brings it out sure sound familiar!  If you don’t need the inflatable aspect, the foam kickboat is a real option.  I think the water skater guys now make a finished one if you don’t want to build your own.

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Good Winter Fishing

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I live just outside of Washington DC and I was wondering where y’all think the best winter fly fishing is in this area.  It doesn’t have to be in my backyard, with in a few hours drive is alright.  It doesn’t have to be great fishing either, just to dip my line in some water would be nice. An overall query—if you could get any fishing related item for the Christmas, what would it be?  Essentially, what is at the top of a fly fisherman’s wish list?  

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An overall query—if you could get any fishing related item for the Christmas, what would it be?  Essentially, what is at the top of a fly fisherman’s wish list?  

I wish Santa would bring me a girlfriend who loves to flyfish. He wouldn’t even have to wrap her for me, he can just drop her off naked. —                   Flyfishers do it with longer rods

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: I live just outside of Washington DC and I was wondering where y’all think : the best winter fly fishing is in this area.  It doesn’t have to be in my : backyard, with in a few hours drive is alright.  It doesn’t have to be : great fishing either, just to dip my line in some water would be nice. If you are in DC, then try my old favorites  The Gunpowder below Prettybow Dam in Baltimore County, and Hunting Creek, near Thurmont in Frederick County. For the past two years, I caught (I belive the same) 23" brown on a GR-Hare’s Ear during January at Hunting Creek. I just moved to Oregon, and I’m sure I’ll miss these places. : An overall query—if you could get any fishing related item for the : Christmas, what would it be?  Essentially, what is at the top of a fly : fisherman’s wish list?   Leaders, tippets, water-proof throwaway camera to take photos of the great C&R’s. Fingerless neoprene gloves for cold-weather angling. Merry Xmas – Cameron Thomas

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: I live just outside of Washington DC and I was wondering where y’all think : the best winter fly fishing is in this area.  It doesn’t have to be in my : backyard, with in a few hours drive is alright.  It doesn’t have to be : great fishing either, just to dip my line in some water would be nice. : An overall query—if you could get any fishing related item for the : Christmas, what would it be?  Essentially, what is at the top of a fly : fisherman’s wish list?           If you just have the need to wet you’re lines and catch some fish, you can head to Dikerson (sp?).  The warm-water chute (where the kayakers practice in the winter) provides some pretty decent fishing throughout the winter.  Lots of big feisty blue-gills & some decent smallmouth action can be had too.  Never had much luck with the smallmouths though — of course I’ve only been up there 2 or 3 times.   Check out the rec. department for winter fishing courses.         As for the gift — how about either:                         1)  A private lake somewhere in canada with 500                             coupons for free flights or,                         2)  A condo on a small island off Florida with                             the same.

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