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During the height of "hummingbird season" I use 10-15 lbs of sugar a week to make the solution. Can I have your "recipe" please?

I’ve never measured sugar to water, but an approximation would be about 1/2 cup sugar to about 3/4 cup water.  Heat water, stirring, until sugar dissolved, add a drop or so of red food coloring, and cool in fridge.  Makes about a qt. Once the birds start lapping up the solution I make about 3 qts at a time. This solution has about 2 – 2.5x more sugar than the commercial powders, and so hummingbirds have to make the trip to the feeder a little less often (which was the point of revving up the sugar).  I had checked with an ornithologist where I work, who blessed the enriched solution.  It can be made even sweeter with no harm to the birds. Note of caution…..I don’t know if beet sugar is sold in the UK, but thru trial and error I discovered that the birds reject a solution of beet sugar (or did mine anyway); I use only cane sugar now. Mac

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This is when a hawk or other predator approaches and smaller birds band together in a planned attack to drive off the intruder. I have seen hawks dive bombed this way by a bunch of starlings.

<nodding   A few years ago I heard loud, continuous bird screeches in back of the house and went to find out what was happening.  A number of birds were attacking an eagle, dive-bombing it and had driven the eagle to flying about 4 feet above the ground.  In a matter of minutes it  had flown off.  I was happy for the escape of any potential prey but I missed a great opportunity to photograph the scene. My hummingbirds have not arrived as yet here in Pa.

Not all the hummingbirds leave this area during the Winter….since it’s a cold "Northern" winter only a few days a season.  A few birds are back at the feeder; in a few weeks, there’ll be a clan gathering of multiple generations. During the height of "hummingbird season" I use 10-15 lbs of sugar a week to make the solution. Mac

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I think cats are the lords and ladies of the earth.  :-) So do the cats. (Hi, Mac … )

Good morning, Arjay.   Small point of order … Fossey worked with _mountain_ gorillas.

When I read over what I had typed, I thought there was something "off"  (blush, blush).  Thanks. Again, a number of species that form families or troops for survival  also develop within the "family" strong sibling and mother-dtr ties, hunting for one another, caring for one another’s offspring, looking out for orphans, protecting one another. That applies in many species.  Look into the behaviours of many social animals: African elephants may be the most striking example.

Yes. If the wolves’ territoriality were unique to the species Tacon’s conjecture would seem stronger.   Mac

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "DawnoftheForest" wrote … Mcc6050 wrote … Dogs rule Hmmmm….I think cats are the lords and ladies of the earth.  :-) So do the cats. (Hi, Mac … ) Interesting article…some comments: Tacon said modern man’s strong territorialism is not shared by other primates. I don’t think that’s all that accurate.  The work by Goodall and Fossey showed that troops/families of chimps and low-land gorillas are territorial. Their findings were, IIRC, mostly confirmations of things suggested by the earlier work of Konrad Lorenz. Even when developing the concept of "imprinting" Lorenz made some passing comments on the apparent territoriality of geese, and I seem to recall he expanded on those comments in _Das sogenannte B

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  There’s fish in there all year round, but in the winter it’s also stocked with rainbows.  The fish spread out over the length of the "clear ditch" and are very spooky.  The banks are also very high, which makes it difficult to be stealthy.  It’s known as my state’s most technically demanding flyfishing.  

Good report Bruce. The spooky fish sure are a switch from the Juan’s. Learn how to take these fish, Bruce. They’ll teach you alot. Willi

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 We’ve recently moved to the north end of town, …

Thanks for the report, Bruce. Some have had success fishing over recently stocked fish using a "brown wooly booger" slapped heavily on the surface. Matching the trout chow hatch, as it were. I wouldn’t want to embarrass anyone by divulging this "technique", but it’s been known to work on the stocker sections of the Watauga. — Ken Fortenberry

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Some have had success fishing over recently stocked fish using a "brown wooly booger" slapped heavily on the surface. Matching the trout chow hatch, as it were. I wouldn’t want to embarrass anyone by divulging this "technique", but it’s been known to work on the stocker sections of the Watauga.

Haven’t tried that one. But how about this one: sixteen beadhead pheasant tail nymphs tied in tandem. Toss that rig into the pool and it looks just like a pellet shower. Works every time! –Steve

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You’ve been hanging around Louie to long. Flies aren’t supposed to get wet. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some have had success fishing over recently stocked fish using a "brown wooly booger" slapped heavily on the surface. Matching the trout chow hatch, as it were. I wouldn’t want to embarrass anyone by divulging this "technique", but it’s been known to work on the stocker sections of the Watauga. Haven’t tried that one. But how about this one: sixteen beadhead pheasant tail nymphs tied in tandem. Toss that rig into the pool and it looks just like a pellet shower. Works every time! –Steve

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Rumor has it that one Waldosomebodyorother has ingeniously adapted a cotton candy machine to spin Trout Chow and glycerine into pseudo hair/hackle.  Deadly flies made from this marvelous "natural" and "organic" product are being manufactured by the millions in third world country slave labor camps and being readied for release as the Trout-O-Matic early in the Spring. Tom  (rumormonger) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  We’ve recently moved to the north end of town, … Thanks for the report, Bruce. Some have had success fishing over recently stocked fish using a "brown wooly booger" slapped heavily on the surface. Matching the trout chow hatch, as it were. I wouldn’t want to embarrass anyone by divulging this "technique", but it’s been known to work on the stocker sections of the Watauga. — Ken Fortenberry

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 We’ve recently moved to the north end of town, near the east bank of the Rio Grande.  I’m on a dirt road for the first time in my life, and we’re the only home among six on our road that has no livestock.  Not fancy, but you can see the stars at night and we like it. On the west side of the river there’s a little old apple farming town that’s almost been swallowed by urban sprawl.  That little town has protected itself with zoning laws designed to preserve it’s rural characther, and it’s worked.  There’s also a spring creek running through that little town, next to the Rio Grande.  The creek was remanufactured (probably over 100 years ago) to run through a man made channel and it looks like an irrigation ditch.  Unlike all of the other ditches that make up the Albuquerque drain system, however, this one runs clear and cold all year long and has lots of aquatic plant life and insects.  There’s fish in there all year round, but in the winter it’s also stocked with rainbows.  The fish spread out over the length of the "clear ditch" and are very spooky.  The banks are also very high, which makes it difficult to be stealthy.  It’s known as my state’s most technically demanding flyfishing.  In five previous tries, usually consisting of a couple hours of fishing, I’ve caught a grand total of one pretty large rainbow. Thursday afternoon, I tried again, this time with a good friend from work.  We parked near another ditch, a muddy one, and started to get rigged up.  A fellow walking down the opposite bank asked if my truck was ok (maybe he thought I was parking in a strange place).  My friend asked if there’s a better place to park to fish the clear ditch, and our new friend obliged us by pointing me to a better place to park than I’ve ever discovered before, just through a small gate to a prime stretch of water.  My truck was the only vehicle there, but this spot was obviously not a secret.  You could tell people park there often. When we got to the ditch, there was no problem finding fish.  In the first depression we spotted a couple little rainbows that we managed not to spook.  No luck.  My friend was fishing tiny dries and I, tiny nymphs.  We moved all over and tried every trick we know to no avail. We’d fish where we saw fish and none of them were interested in our imitations.  There was a terrific hatch of small mayflies but our stocker friends in front of us weren’t feeding on them actively.  A couple of times, in frustration, we stood up on the bank and showed ourselves to the fish and instead of the two or three we had spotted, twenty or thirty of them would begin swirling in front of us but they wouldn’t leave the depression they were sitting in.  We weren’t catching any fish, but we were having fun trying. More fishermen appeared in our primo stretch of water.  The bait guys (two of them) kept their distance and fished from the bushes, drifting single eggs to the fish with no luck.  The other fly fishermen, however, were not a shy, asking us how we were doing, spooking fish as they walked past us up on the streambank.  There were four other fly fishermen, all kids, and they had no clue about fishing manners, but they were just kids and they were nice.  And we weren’t catching any fish anyway. I spotted a 15" carp and before i could cast to him, while trying to get into postition, lost sight of him.  He was real spooky.  My friend and I spent some more time walking to get away from the others and I had told my friend to keep an eye out for larger carp.  He called me over because he had spotted a ‘white’ fish and wanted me to drift my nymph to it.  He thought maybe it was a smaller carp an it was sitting on the bottom. My glasses must be better than his because i could tell right away that it was a white goldfish about 7 inches long, and he was flanked in the water by no less than 4 other goldfish, all gold.  Those goldfish must be selective feeders.  I tried midges, scuds, mayflies, all to no avail.  I thought SJ fish were selective!  Well, it got dark and we went home. So, if anyone wants to visit me and sight fish for goldfish, let me know bruce h — bare your soul let your spirit burn out along the road to no return – r.e. keen

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One of the best ways to share the world with a child, is through books. Read about it, then go do it. Your child will do the same with his children.

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My son and I just got finished reading "Blackberries in the Dark" by Mavis Jukes.  It’s about a young boys first experience fly fishing. I’ll skip the reviews. However, my eight year old loved it and wants to me to read it to him again tomorrow night. It’s 60 pages and was under $4.00. Paul

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Paul I don’t ever consider introducing a young one to fly fishing, even if only in a book, as off topic.  How many of us grew up reading adventures into space with Heinlein or the like.  We grew up looking to the astronauts as heros.  Perhaps if some of those adventures had involved fly fishermen, I would have looked on my father as the true hero that he was just that little bit earlier.  Thank you for helping us find some thing that we can start that sharing process with our young ones.               Frank Reid

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My son and I just got finished reading "Blackberries in the Dark" by Mavis Jukes.  It’s about a young boys first experience fly fishing. I’ll skip the reviews. However, my eight year old loved it and wants to me to read it to him again tomorrow night. It’s 60 pages and was under $4.00.

Thanks.   I’ll check it out. Joe F.

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Paul I don’t ever consider introducing a young one to fly fishing, even if only in a book, as off topic.  How many of us grew up reading adventures into space with Heinlein or the like.  We grew up looking to the astronauts as heros.               Frank Reid

Heinlein, Asimov, and others!  "Oh Those Golden Ships"! So many dreams, all of great value even if unrealized. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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any body know of some good fishing in north west colorado?

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Try fishing at Yampacola res., nice rainbows and good fly country.

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It’s more west-central, but the Black Canyon of the Gunnison River in Gunnison and Montrose counties is pretty nice. The fish are a little temperamental, though. Some days you can catch anything with an Adams and a mediocre presentation, and other days perfect presentation and a long and thin leader and perfect hatch matching will leave you skunked. The fishing is great. It’s the catching that’s sometimes a little iffy. —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNu3zDpdiUzdLFqlpAQGlegf+L+2nnxmFnkfV8hwx9n2681hZcAvgSQn6 wDwh2ghZoQtGVvZHlYsONMMY0gOfNb52dgwd3uUi9ohZtyc0d9XIue3FHSa0vBa5 Sk4voCNo6BaPfMukXKUK9NiLaFjWZLF75rka/1pZqZnQqCm4ogPT5RJdJKiou+uv ONNOFeIuWLhayy44Ck9uziAlwtqJcWaoHdFdQQCY/Zwv5fBka+/MRhNchKTx+8T4 0Bh80zzGXFSYvBQPTww9eivH0PmecZhAwdhAT0EzvcDYry2cLynZgBPdpbLOr00x IATrJ1eBVpU9awukFCu4nFIcHXkrznq37t65RmbjE1WZkiU7p4+LIQ== =ifOk —–END PGP SIGNATURE—– Mike S. Medintz, http://www.grapevine.net/~medintz "I can try to get used to what she likes, but if I hear that ‘From This Moment’ song one more time I’m-a gonna go postal."                            "I love Topeka," by T.J.J. Williams

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If I found myself in northwest Colorado I extend my travels a bit further to northeast Utah…The Green Rive & Flaming Gorge. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – any body know of some good fishing in north west colorado?

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If I found myself in northwest Colorado I extend my travels a bit further to northeast Utah…The Green Rive & Flaming Gorge.

Good advice if you want one of the crowded "hot spots."  NW Colorado is a big area.  If you’re going to the Grand Junction area, Grand Mesa is a beautiful area with lots of streams and natural lakes. Willi

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again Actually I have a very nice picture of a longhaired blond girl fishing for salmon in nothing but boots, but I will have to get some permissions first. I will see what I can do.

        you sure as hell have *my* permission, torben, ol’ chum!                 wayno the lustful – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –       Torben Meldgaard have to check with the better half, eh? also….although this is a text ng, you have my ok to post the jpg here Happy Holidays, –Wataugan Walt

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Hi again        Torben

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have to check with the better half, eh? also….although this is a text ng, you have my ok to post the jpg here Happy Holidays, –Wataugan Walt

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Hi again Actually I have a very nice picture of a longhaired blond girl fishing for salmon in nothing but boots, but I will have to get some permissions first. I will see what I can do.        Torben Meldgaard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Torben, A very nice site. To generate interest and flow with the popular perception of Scandinavia, try posting pictures of tall, beautiful, blonde Scandinavian women rushing from the sauna to plunge in the cold trout and salmon infested waters. Even consider posing one of these young ladies with fly vest and rod while exploring the depths of the river with her streamer. Wayne Hart To Fish is Human….To Release Divine

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Torben, A very nice site. To generate interest and flow with the popular perception of Scandinavia, try posting pictures of tall, beautiful, blonde Scandinavian women rushing from the sauna to plunge in the cold trout and salmon infested waters. Even consider posing one of these young ladies with fly vest and rod while exploring the depths of the river with her streamer. Wayne Hart

I must say Wayne you are perfectly right. A couple of really good tall beautiful naked Scandnavian blondes always compensates me for catching nothing on Scandinavian rivers.  My wife is of the opinion that the Salmon are in fact secondary, ridiculous idea of course. But I bet you know just exactly what I mean ! Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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Hi there I just want to tell you the address of my new home page about fly fishing in Scandinavia. Please take a look at it and give me some constructive criticism, I promise You I won’t cry.   Here goes:               http://www.imf.au.dk/~tmm/flyfish.html     Yours truly    Torben Meldgaard

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looking for big bass waters in MA NH  MI with camping nearby small boat acess.thanks in advance

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ooking for big bass waters in MA NH  MI with camping nearby small boat acess.thanks in advance

Does Vermont interest you at all?  There is  great smallie and largemouth fishing all over Vermont but particularly Lake Champlain, Lake St Catherine, Waterbury Reservoir and many more.  Let me know if I can help. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Someone asked me to finish this story <snip

You have some imagination there Mr. G., I bet your wife is waiting for the season to open…*G* Great job, I enjoyed it……

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Someone asked me to finish this story <snip You have some imagination there Mr. G., I bet your wife is waiting for the season to open…*G* Great job, I enjoyed it……

THIS BASICALLY IS A STORY BASED ON A TRUE EVENT.  Only the size of the Fish has been exaggerated. Mr. G And I am so pleased you enjoyed it Mr Busted. again,

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Someone asked me to finish this story I wrote a few months ago.  So here it is, finished.  He was smart enough to ‘ask the question’  The answer is in this dear, wonderful, almost completely true, story that took place in the Bitterroot Valley in Montana.  I hope everyone enjoys it. A TROUBLED MORNING  or (Duckling Advice) So, there we all were, gathered around for our early morning donuts and coffee.  John lived out South of Hamilton going towards Darby.  He had this neat little spread and a pond that was fed by the Bitterroot River . . . and the pond had ducks on it.  One of the Mallard females had little, yellow baby ducklings.  "They

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I am looking at putting together a wellness day for a couple of friends of mine to go fishing at Coldwater Lake, near Mt. St. Helens. One of the guys is off to Arizona before too long and so we have to go somewhat early in the season — Late April — so I was wondering if anyone in the NOrthwest has had any experience in fishing at  this lake — especially early in the season. Thanks in advance, Rusty —

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I’ve never fished Coldwater Lake but have hear they are catching nice fish even right now.  My sources tell me that if the wind kicks up on the lake, your fishing day is pretty much over for us fly fishers.

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My chapter of Trout Unlimited (Des Moines WA) fishes Coldwater Lake usually in mid-June.  The access for fishing is fairly restrictive for those on foot since you are only allowed to fish at I believe 3 bank access spots: 1 near the boat launch on the Western end of the lake, 1 on the north bank about 1 mile up the trail from the parking lot, and 1 (I’m told, since I’ve not walked it) at the far Eastern end of the lake about 4 1/2 miles from the boat launch.  The access spots are IMO not very good for flycasters.  Spinning gear has a better opportunity for successful fishing with the better casting ability in the space allotted.  By the way, there is a pretty stiff fine if the rangers catch you off the approved trails or fishing in a spot that is not designated for such. This is to protect the recovering vegetation and to keep the area pristine.  Also, this is a selective fishery, artificials only, single barbless hooks. Float tubes or small car top boats (electric motors only are allowed per the signage at the launch) have access to better water.  While fish can be whereever they want to be, there is a shelf running along the northern bank that goes into a dropoff to the lake bottom at around 20 feet of depth.  Last June that seemed to be where the fish were for me – used a gaudy olive flashy wooly bugger on a T-300 line to get down to the bottom and bump the logs. If you’re not hitting some structure with the fly, you’re weren’t deep enough last year for me. We didn’t see many hatches the day we were there last June (cloudy, rainy day) but the year before (sunny warm day) we ran into a huge damselfly hatch.   I have heard that with favorable winds, people will put in at the launch and wind drift down to the access at 1 mile and then walk back with their tubes.  After being there a couple of times I think that would be a good strategy.  If the winds are out and about this coming June, we may try that. If you go in late April, I would have travel equipment to handle adverse weather as I recall we went over some fairly high ground on the highway getting in.  Seems like we were over 3000 feet elevation on the way in.   The April 11-25 edition of the Fishing and Hunting News lists Leon at Lewis River Sports (360) 225-9530 as a contact for Coldwate Lake.  I have not talked to them personally but you might want to call and see if they have some additional local information. Hope this helps.  Coldwater is a wonderfully beautiful lake to visit and fish. If you go, be sure to stop by the visitor center up the hill (I would drive not walk to it) and get a panoramic view of the lake.  If you are there on June 15, look for a group of us from TU in tubes flogging the water to a froth. Al Miller Des Moines Chapter of Trout Unlimited Seattle, Washington

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[snip] : participants of this newsgroup. Reading the story was somewhat eerie. Had : Duncan been lurking in the background, reading the pointless and : frequently nasty arguments between fly-fishing purists (who would never : use an Orvis rod and would drown anyone they saw with a celular phone) : and the evil fly fishing yuppies, who unabashedly use Orvis, make money, : and contaminate the purists’ streams with their very presence? I : seriously doubt that Duncan has been listening in; this ridiculous debate : must be played out on streams and in bars and fly shops all around the : country. I don’t know if he passes through here, but I’m pretty sure he lives in Montana now.  He lives it every day.  I wonder if he has a personalized license plate? Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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I don’t know if he passes through here, but I’m pretty sure he lives in   Montana now.  He lives it every day.  I wonder if he has a personalized   license plate? Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

Rick,     He does live in Montana now, bought a place a year or so ago.  Probably does drive thru Moscow as he still comes to Portland from time to time for readings and the odd appearance at a club meetings.                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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I agree with the above.  The *introduction* , where he describes river teeth is worth the price of the book.  Longspeer

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David James Duncan’s new book <iRiver Teeth<i is, simply put, absolutely wonderful. I’d highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys good writing. Many of the pieces in this book –I’m not sure whether to call them stories or essays — are not "fishing stories", but several of them are, and one of these, "Not Rocking the Boat" should be required reading for participants of this newsgroup. Reading the story was somewhat eerie. Had Duncan been lurking in the background, reading the pointless and frequently nasty arguments between fly-fishing purists (who would never use an Orvis rod and would drown anyone they saw with a celular phone) and the evil fly fishing yuppies, who unabashedly use Orvis, make money, and contaminate the purists’ streams with their very presence? I seriously doubt that Duncan has been listening in; this ridiculous debate must be played out on streams and in bars and fly shops all around the country. I haven’t quite finished the book yet, but all of the pieces I have read so far have been top-notch writing. No real surprise there. "The Mickey Mantle Koan" (not one of the "fishing stories") is worth the price of the book all by itself. Dave Guinee

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I’m going to spend a week on the Chesapeake Bay, near Annapolis, in mid August and am wondering what recommendations you might have. I’ll be doing some fishing from shore but will spend a fair amount of time on a 40′ trawler that is better equipped to b the love boat than for any serious stalking and catching. Currently, I have a 5 wt. fly setup (which I plan to take), but will likely to get a 9 wt. saltwater rig for streamers and poppers before I go. I suspect I can’t troll with a 9 wt., except at the very slowest speeds, but what can I expect to catch with those two rods – if anything – or am I just wasting time and money?  And which flies will improve my chances? In advance, thanks.

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I’m going to spend a week on the Chesapeake Bay, near Annapolis, in mid August and am wondering what recommendations you might have. I’ll be doing some fishing from shore but will spend a fair amount of time on a 40′ trawler that is better equipped to be the love boat than for any serious stalking and catching. Currently, I have a 5 wt. fly setup (which I plan to take), but will likely to get a 9 wt. saltwater rig for streamers and poppers before I go. I suspect I can’t troll with a 9 wt., except at the very slowest speeds, but what can I expect to catch with those two rods – if anything – or am I just wasting time and money?  And which flies will improve my chances? In advance, thanks.

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