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Hi RW,  you were mentioning the PT nymph and what it looked like.  I have a rather poor photo (somewhat out of focus)  that depicts the nymph, and I have put it on ABPF.

That’s a very buggy looking fly, Michael. Do you ever tie them flashback style, with a strand of Flashabou and some 5-minute epoxy? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hi RW,  you were mentioning the PT nymph and what it looked like.  I have a rather poor photo (somewhat out of focus)  that depicts the nymph, and I have put it on ABPF. That’s a very buggy looking fly, Michael. Do you ever tie them flashback style, with a strand of Flashabou and some 5-minute epoxy?

Yikes,  what is "flashback style"?  The fly in the pikkie is my mainstay of angling operations, and it fishes very effectively here in the UK and the river Cauvery  (Bangalore to Mysore plus tributaries)  in India  (much to my delight!!!)  This pattern is probably my most used fly.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi RW,  you were mentioning the PT nymph and what it looked like.  I have a rather poor photo (somewhat out of focus)  that depicts the nymph, and I have put it on ABPF. That’s a very buggy looking fly, Michael. Do you ever tie them flashback style, with a strand of Flashabou and some 5-minute epoxy? Yikes,  what is "flashback style"?  

Tie in a strand of pearl Flashabou before you tie in the wingcase. Then fold it over and tie it in over the finished wingcase. A drop of 5-minute epoxy on top of the thorax makes the fly more durable, which I believe is what you were after in the first place. The fly in the pikkie is my mainstay of angling operations, and it fishes very effectively here in the UK and the river Cauvery  (Bangalore to Mysore plus tributaries)  in India  (much to my delight!!!)  This pattern is probably my most used fly.

Now you’re getting all picky about making changes to your recipe! That was my advice, if you recall — if it works, stick with it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Do you ever tie them flashback style, with a strand of Flashabou and some 5-minute epoxy?

One thing I like to do is use peackock herl for the wingcase.  I pull over that several strands of very narrow Flashabou.  I think this is more subtle, yet at the same time reflects light in more directions.  Then I coat it with Flexament.  I think it looks cool.

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Snipped. Today I fished with some PT nymphs that I had used a little dab of superglue to keep the wingcase firmly fastened down.  They did not look any different to the non glued ones,  but after a day’s angling with them I have to say that the addition of the glue has done wonders for the durability of the fly.  Today was very windy and at times too much for my 4 weight line.  One cast was blown onto the riverbank  (grrrr!), however, a bit of bad temper and cursing at the wind,  I persisted my casting. I found a nice run that has been deepened by the recent record flooding, and its trout have all been replaced by large grayling.  I caught 3 grayling between 1.25lb and 2lb in 40 feet of stream, and saw a lot more fish too ~ I have never seen so many large grayling on this river before.  Oddly enough, the grayling were not at all interested in the PT nymph, and I caught them on a  small black & peacock spider (size 16).  All the trout that I caught today (upto a lively 15oz fish) were on the PT nymph.  I only fished for half the day due to 1) the wind, and 2) nagging by the wife… Within a few weeks,  the mayflies (we call the largest of our ephemerids the mayfly  (Ephemera danica) as it hatches in late May.  The troutstream goes absolutely nuts for 2 weeks and the trout all gorge themselves something chronic).  That being said,  the fish were feasting well today, and the trout all had plump bellies.

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There is a picture of a PTN with a fluo thorax at http://www.geocities.com/flyfishingguru/ptn.htm along with tying instructions etc if any of you are interested Chris http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flyfishingworld – E-mail group http://www.geocities.com/flyfishingguru – Main website

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Snipped. Today I fished with some PT nymphs that I had used a little dab of superglue to keep the wingcase firmly fastened down.  They did not look any different to the non glued ones,  but after a day’s angling with them I have to say that the addition of the glue has done wonders for the durability of the fly.  Today was very windy and at times too much for my 4 weight line. One cast was blown onto the riverbank  (grrrr!), however, a bit of bad temper and cursing at the wind,  I persisted my casting. I found a nice run that has been deepened by the recent record flooding, and its trout have all been replaced by large grayling.  I caught 3 grayling between 1.25lb and 2lb in 40 feet of stream, and saw a lot more fish too ~ I have never seen so many large grayling on this river before.  Oddly enough, the grayling were not at all interested in the PT nymph, and I caught them on a  small black & peacock spider (size 16).  All the trout that I caught today (upto a lively 15oz fish) were on the PT nymph.  I only fished for half the day due to 1) the wind, and 2) nagging by the wife… Within a few weeks,  the mayflies (we call the largest of our ephemerids the mayfly  (Ephemera danica) as it hatches in late May.  The troutstream goes absolutely nuts for 2 weeks and the trout all gorge themselves something chronic).  That being said,  the fish were feasting well today, and the trout all had plump bellies.

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Cheers Chris, I looked at the fly,  however, I must admit to being a bit of a traditional kindof flytier.  I am presently only using non-synthetic materials to tie my flies from;  I prefer furs, feathers & metals.   That being said, today I used some flies (PTN) that used glue as a reinforcement to the tying, so I suppose that I am a bit of a hypocrite in respect to non-synthetic materials – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a picture of a PTN with a fluo thorax at http://www.geocities.com/flyfishingguru/ptn.htm along with tying instructions etc if any of you are interested Chris http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flyfishingworld – E-mail group http://www.geocities.com/flyfishingguru – Main website Snipped. Today I fished with some PT nymphs that I had used a little dab of superglue to keep the wingcase firmly fastened down.  They did not look any different to the non glued ones,  but after a day’s angling with them I have to say that the addition of the glue has done wonders for the durability of the fly.  Today was very windy and at times too much for my 4 weight line. One cast was blown onto the riverbank  (grrrr!), however, a bit of bad temper and cursing at the wind,  I persisted my casting. I found a nice run that has been deepened by the recent record flooding, and its trout have all been replaced by large grayling.  I caught 3 grayling between 1.25lb and 2lb in 40 feet of stream, and saw a lot more fish too ~ I have never seen so many large grayling on this river before.  Oddly enough, the grayling were not at all interested in the PT nymph, and I caught them on a  small black & peacock spider (size 16).  All the trout that I caught today (upto a lively 15oz fish) were on the PT nymph.  I only fished for half the day due to 1) the wind, and 2) nagging by the wife… Within a few weeks,  the mayflies (we call the largest of our ephemerids the mayfly  (Ephemera danica) as it hatches in late May.  The troutstream goes absolutely nuts for 2 weeks and the trout all gorge themselves something chronic).  That being said,  the fish were feasting well today, and the trout all had plump bellies.

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Cheers Chris, I looked at the fly,  however, I must admit to being a bit of a traditional kindof flytier.  I am presently only using non-synthetic materials to tie my flies from;  I prefer furs, feathers & metals.  

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences, but I don’t understand the big difference between using manufactured materials like steel hooks and nylon thread, and "synthetic" materials like Flashabou and poly yarn. If it’s effective for tying flies I’ll use it. It may be unethical , but that’s the way I see it. In fact, I think it’s fun to use all sorts of unusual synthetic materials, especially those that aren’t made specifically for tying flies. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Planned to stop in McIntosh county Oklahoma and do a little family research on way to Henry"s Fork clave. My creek ancestor there suggested I bring my fishing pole–said it gets so hot there in July that when you catch a brim you just eat him off the fly! IJ

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cheers Chris, I looked at the fly,  however, I must admit to being a bit of a traditional kindof flytier.  I am presently only using non-synthetic materials to tie my flies from;  I prefer furs, feathers & metals. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences, but I don’t understand the big difference between using manufactured materials like steel hooks and nylon thread, and "synthetic" materials like Flashabou and poly yarn. If it’s effective for tying flies I’ll use it. It may be unethical , but that’s the way I see it. In fact, I think it’s fun to use all sorts of unusual synthetic materials, especially those that aren’t made specifically for tying flies.

What you say is entirely true, and people should experiment with new materials and so on if they want to improve designs.  I am not a particularly innovative fly tyer; I have about a dozen mature patterns consisting of dry, wet & nymph (for troutstream fishing) that I more or less stick to.  I am also essentially lazy in nature, and because of this try to utilise just the minimum required  (another reason why I use PT & GRHE nymphs for the bulk of my angling).  Being lazy with fly tying means that I don’t really go out to get new materials; I have a big wooden box (that I inherited when its previous owner emigrated to Australia) that is crammed with all sorts of bits of fur / hair / capes / birdskins / loose feathers / wires / tinsels and so on.  I am more of an angler than a fly tyer, however that being said, I do tie up all of my flies that I use.  I probably need a new tying vice as mine (Indian cheapo) is getting to be a nuisance ~ I suppose that you get what you pay for. This season I have decided to get back into fishing the dry fly; over the last 7 years or so I have neglected to use the dryfly.  The last 2 trips (yesterday & a week before) I caught trout on a size 16 iron blue dun and really enjoyed the thrill of watching the fly bob down to where the fish was on the fin. I’m not at all bothered about what other people want to use,  but I personally prefer to use feather or fur over synthetic materials purely on a set-in-my-ways traditional kindof theme.  It is  ironic that I am probably younger than the average age of the participants in this NG and yet I am possibly more dogmatic in choice of fly tying materials than the average pundit! Regards, Mike.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What you say is entirely true, and people should experiment with new materials and so on if they want to improve designs.  I am not a particularly innovative fly tyer; I have about a dozen mature patterns consisting of dry, wet & nymph (for troutstream fishing) that I more or less stick to.  I am also essentially lazy in nature, and because of this try to utilise just the minimum required  (another reason why I use PT & GRHE nymphs for the bulk of my angling).   I am more of an angler than a fly tyer, however that being said, I do tie up all of my flies that I use.   I’m not at all bothered about what other people want to use,  but I personally prefer to use feather or fur over synthetic materials purely on a set-in-my-ways traditional kindof theme.  It is  ironic that I am probably younger than the average age of the participants in this NG and yet I am possibly more dogmatic in choice of fly tying materials than the average pundit!

Hum, I pictured you as a moderately old fart like me. I also prefer "natural" over synthetic. I think that a limited fly selection is what happens when you fish the same waters, or similar ones, very frequently. You find or develop some flies that are successful for you, you use them alot, you get good at presenting them and you have alot of confidence in them. When I travel to new waters, I usually tie up "local" patterns to suit but often  find myself having my best success on my "standards." That’s one of the things that has made me concentrate much more on a change in presentation over trying to find the "right" fly when I come across a difficult situation. Willi

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What you say is entirely true, and people should experiment with new materials and so on if they want to improve designs.  I am not a particularly innovative fly tyer; I have about a dozen mature patterns consisting of dry, wet & nymph (for troutstream fishing) that I more or less stick to.  I am also essentially lazy in nature, and because of this try to utilise just the minimum required  (another reason why I use PT & GRHE nymphs for the bulk of my angling).   I am more of an angler than a fly

tyer, however that being said, I do tie up all of my flies that I use. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not at all bothered about what other people want to use,  but I personally prefer to use feather or fur over synthetic materials purely on a set-in-my-ways traditional kindof theme.  It is  ironic that I am probably younger than the average age of the participants in this NG and yet I am possibly more dogmatic in choice of fly tying materials than the average pundit! Hum, I pictured you as a moderately old fart like me. I also prefer "natural" over synthetic. I think that a limited fly selection is what happens when you fish the same waters, or similar ones, very frequently. You find or develop some flies that are successful for you, you use them alot, you get good at presenting them and you have alot of confidence in them. When I travel to new waters, I usually tie up "local" patterns to suit but often  find myself having my best success on my "standards." That’s one of the things that has made me concentrate much more on a change in presentation over trying to find the "right" fly when I come across a difficult situation.

LOL,  I am a 30 year old fart, moderate just like you .  You are right about the firm fave flies that you carry with confidence,  I have my favourite flies alright:  my 1st 11 or 1st 15, these flies are my first choice in action on most waters (saltwaters excluded).  Confidence is pretty important in flyfishing and having a proven fly or series of flies helps maintain the keeness that is essentially kept bouyant by prior confidence.

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Hum, I pictured you as a moderately old fart like me. LOL,  I am a 30 year old fart, moderate just like you .

I don’t think that’s the same thing that Willi described

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Confidence is pretty important in flyfishing and having a proven fly or series of flies helps maintain the keeness that is essentially kept bouyant by prior confidence.

I suspect that the "confidence" effect has something to do with the effectiveness of fluorocarbon tippet. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hi RW,  you were mentioning the PT nymph and what it looked like.  I have a rather poor photo (somewhat out of focus)  that depicts the nymph, and I have put it on ABPF.

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Hey, maybe when he gets it through his head that a batch of re-tread rightwingnuts won’t cut it, he will get serious and nominate some more patriots like Powell and some real Republicans.

I thought it was pretty funny when he nominated a guy for Secretary of Energy who last year voted to abolish the Department of Energy. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I was talking about Chavez, Dave, *not* Gail Norton. JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well anyway, It is sad when a person with just the hint of lesbian White Slavery in her background can’t serve in the Cabinet.

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Men laugh: weenies snicker.

Dave, can you recommend a good urologist? I ask because although I have no trouble laughing, I have yet to hear my weenie snicker. I *have* had a few people snicker at my weenie, but I suspect that’s not what you mean. –Steve

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Zimbo? You mean your weenie doesn’t snicker? Impossible! All weenies snicker man! You don’t need a urologist, you may need a Dick Doc. Here’s an anthropomorphic home procedure that will tell you for sure. First find an older, spring operated time piece. Next, take it into a quiet room and put your "thang" on the time piece. Then listen. Dave "Lookit that man mommy, he has 5 separate toes on each foot! Don’t stare Honey, its not polite. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave, can you recommend a good urologist? I ask because although I have no trouble laughing, I have yet to hear my weenie snicker. I *have* had a few people snicker at my weenie, but I suspect that’s not what you mean. –Steve

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Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice! I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here.

I did a backpacking trip in the Superstition Wilderness, east of Phoenix, a couple of years ago Willi.  Death Valley may be drier, but I suspect that few other places in the U.S. are.  This wilderness area is inside the Tonto National Forest (if memory serves) and is administered by the USFS.  There is a network of trails throughout the area; an ever changing network.  In six days on the trail I passed numerous signs indicating that various segments of trail were "CLOSED!".  The closures are an effort to allow areas to recover from the damage (sometimes very severe) done by hikers and or equestrians, depending on the usage allowed on given segments.  No ATVS.  Just feet. Anyone who is interested shouldn’t have a hard time finding loads of material on areas that are closed to foot traffic for……guess what reason. Wolfgang

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It’s in times like this I wonder why you ever use the phrase "shiv a git"…

Did I ever tell you about that time in the pen down in Atlanta when I arrived on the scene about four seconds after a git got shivved?  Stuck once, right through the heart….big guy too, loads of blood.  Sort of a lovers spat kinda thingy.  In retrospect it reminds me a lot of here. No wonder I love this place!     Wolfgang no gangsta my own self, but seen plenty

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… it depends on how you define "negative."  As many have pointed out, both horses’ hooves and human feet/shoes leave "evidence" ranging from a mere rapidly disappearing footprint to permanent "damage."  The only way to prevent this "negative" impact is ban everything and everybody, period, and that hardly seems a solution.

Wheeled devices are often banned because they cause long linear paths of compacted soil which can create runoff problems and/or slow natural biological processes that pass through the soil layer. Human feet and horse hooves by contrast create disconncted compacted spots (although in the extreme, heavy human traffic is nearly as bad). Thomas Gilg

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Dean Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave

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Dave, tell me you didn’t snicker just a bit over Chavez’s withdrawal today.  Or was that a gleeful guffaw? JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dean Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave

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JR No, it just saddens me (SNICKER) when someone like Ms Chavez, selected by a President select, who is known by his handlers as a good judge of managerial talent, cannot bring her special talents for uniting the country around issues of race . . . Oh? You mean she is known for baiting minorities? Well lets pass on that. Well, you know, a person well known for her understanding of the Hispanic-American situation . . . OH? you mean she can’t actually speak or understand Spanish?  Is that why she "didn’t know" that the Guatemalan lady was an illegal? Oh well lets move on. (SNICKER) I mean she had the lady living in her house as an act of kindness, you can understand that? Oh, you mean its kinda like the Barney Frank thing? No! I find that hard to believe! (SNICKER) Well anyway, It is sad when a person with just the hint of lesbian White Slavery in her background can’t serve in the Cabinet. A real shame, considering the things we will learn next week about the rest of the rogues gallery of nominees. Hey, maybe when he gets it through his head that a batch of re-tread rightwingnuts won’t cut it, he will get serious and nominate some more patriots like Powell and some real Republicans. Dave McCain (and Feingold too), now more than ever.

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were.

Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice! I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here. Willi

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WOW! Amazing! He’s not even ascended to the oval office and already they are coming out of the woodwork with the specious arguments.  I can already see the White House Press Releases: "Human Feet Major Environmental Problem, Obscure Texas College to get fat research grant to provide evidence that ATV industry is falsely blamed." "Close Presidential friend from Midland to lead effort." Reminds me of the Reagan era stuff on how trees were the real polluters! Dave

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -RDean writes: I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!

<G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?   And again, it depends on how you define "negative."  As many have pointed out, both horses’ hooves and human feet/shoes leave "evidence" ranging from a mere rapidly disappearing footprint to permanent "damage."  The only way to prevent this "negative" impact is ban everything and everybody, period, and that hardly seems a solution. TC, R

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice!

Thanks.  That’s just the backyard <G. I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here.

Well, they are both there, I wish you had been able to see them – if you to the far left, right behind the gate, you’ll see the footprints, and the tracks are in the front, along the fenceline, across most of the picture.  When this was taken, the tracks were not the intended subject.  FWIW, the ground wasn’t all that dry as there had been typical Panhandle weather, with melting and more snow, melting more snow, etc. TC, R

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RDean writes: G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?  

You really can’t read, can you?  Where did I say anything like the above.  I am aware that ATVs do damage to the ground they travel over.  I’ve riddent them and see what they do.  There is a place for them, Dean, but not in wilderness land.  And what the fuck does Orvis have to do with this?   You know when you called me that time at  1 a.m in the morning and I told you I was in bed sleeping?  And you were totally surprised that anyone would be sleeping at 1 in the morning.  Do you remember that?  At the time I thought you were some kind of fuckin’ nut case.  Now I am convinced.  Go fishing, Richard. Take your fly rod, if you own one, and go fishing.  It will get the kinks out of your ass.  You do fish, don’t you, Richard. Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!

It’s in times like this I wonder why you ever use the phrase "shiv a git"… /daytripper

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RDean writes: G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?   You really can’t read, can you?  Where did I say anything like the above.  

During this thread, you have said (all emphasis added): "Introduce _any wheeled vehicle_ to an environment where it has never been before and you will have a negative impact on that invironment. Period!  Fuckin’ Period!  To think otherwise is ludicrous." But later: "I have trouble walking because of the pain in my feet, but I’ll be damned if I would drive a noisy, smoky ATV into some pristine back country.  _I might ride my bike, however._" And then you said repeatedly about various issues that might result in "damage": "Why even have the *chance* that it could happen." And finally: "_I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos_.  Can you read?  Read this:  _Wheels driven by a gasoline engine_ in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!" I am aware that ATVs do damage to the ground they travel over.  I’ve riddent them and see what they do.  There is a place for them, Dean, but not in wilderness land.  

And again, I have never claimed they should be allowed everywhere, or, IIRC, even _anywhere_ on public lands.  I have simply said that they _can_ be operated without doing any more physical damage than people, horses, bikes, etc.  And that is based on many miles on all sorts of terrain on or in  ATVs, horses, bikes, feet, trucks, tractors, dozers, loaders, etc.  It is also based on having any damage caused to result, directly or indirectly, in money right out of my pocket in the form of lost wheat, grass, timber, etc.   Of course, one could construe a single footprint or a single damaged blade of grass in 1000 sections as "damage," but under such construction, then _nothing_, including people, should be allowed in that area. And what the fuck does Orvis have to do with this?

It was a joke… You know when you called me that time at  1 a.m in the morning and I told you I was in bed sleeping?  And you were totally surprised that anyone would be sleeping at 1 in the morning.  Do you remember that?  

Er, no.  I do remember calling you at what turned out to be, IIRC, about 11-11:30 your time because I had you confused with someone in a different time zone – again, IIRC, you were changing around your email address or something similar.   I apologized immediately, and offered to call you the next day, but you said don’t worry about it, and proceeded with the conversation.  As far as what surprises me, very little does, but I wouldn’t knowingly call someone unexpectedly after about 9:30 or 10 to simply "chat." At the time I thought you were some kind of fuckin’ nut case.  Now I am convinced.  

Well, I guess, it’s like they say – that’s why there’s chocolate and vanilla… Go fishing, Richard. Take your fly rod, if you own one, and go fishing.  

What’s a fly rod?  Is that one of them cane poles with the funny reel on the ass-end?  I think I got one lying around somewhere… It will get the kinks out of your ass.

Well, thanks for your concern, but my ass is completely unkinked…   You do fish, don’t you, Richard.

And in some interesting places, too… TC, R

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R

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RDean writes: I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R

Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said! Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi

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Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi

 So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom

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Hans van der Stroom schrieb in Nachricht Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom

I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously quite a few people replied. Hope he manages to get it going though. Would be nice to have something a little more tangible from other ROFF members, makes it more personal somehow. Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

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I did the same.  Last I heard from him. Hans van der Stroom schrieb in Nachricht William Loehman heeft geschreven in bericht

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously quite a few people replied. Hope he manages to get it going though. Would be nice to have something a little more tangible from other ROFF members, makes it more personal somehow. Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

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I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

Maybe he’s making a list to sell to phone solicitors…..;] No really. Maybe life intervened. pete

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It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. Cheers, Herman Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Peter Ross was a Scottish barber who combined the now alomost forgotten Teal and Silver and the Teal and Red to a (according to history) very succesful wet fly/attractor. Origins are (top of my head) somewhere late on the last century. I caught more fish on it than I care to remember. Ideal fly for rivers in rainy circumstances and staining water. Fish across and down and have fun! Also very good on lakes. The odd thing about the PR is that it either works for you, or not at all. There’s still some Scottish mystic left in the old pattern I guess.. Pattern: Hook: standard wet fly, normally 8 – 14 Tail: goldpheasant tippets Body: rear 2/3 flat silver, front 1/3 red seal (imitation)       ribbed with silver wire Wing: Teal Hackle: black hen or soft cock, tied to the underside of the hook. Herman, enjoying a wee dram.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am collenting the stuff for the web site. Who is Peter Ross? Paul … Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Ah, thanks Herman, for awhile there I thought I screwed up in picking that one out to give to Mu….the label had me confused. (more than usual, that is) Frank (where am I?) Church

|It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some |time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. |Cheers, Herman |

| | Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment | of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it | that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? | | BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by | Herman. | | Mu | |– |Cheers, Herman |Herman Nijland |Daytime webmaster |Lifetime flyfisher

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I thought I was short a fly for a moment because I didn’t see anyflies like that.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ah, thanks Herman, for awhile there I thought I screwed up in picking that one out to give to Mu….the label had me confused. (more than usual, that is) Frank (where am I?) Church |It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some |time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. |Cheers, Herman | | | Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment | of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it | that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? | | BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by | Herman. | | Mu | |– |Cheers, Herman |Herman Nijland |Daytime webmaster |Lifetime flyfisher

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‘Twas an exciting day at the Kirkpatrick household yesterday when the Fly Menagerie arrived.  Even my wife, an occasional fflady (between golf and tennis and gardening pursuits), was intrigued.  She especially liked the cute flys with the eyes.  I was duly impressed by the level of fly-tying-skills displayed, all previously expressed caveats, rationalizations, and absurd excuses notwithstanding.  Geez….These guys are GOOD!  I must have obtained the hand-selected display flys that Frank had obtained from some secret source, mimicing the identical fly types purportedly sent by Roffians.  Great job guys.  I too am looking forward to the web site for more info on how and when to fish each fly.  Thanks to all participants. Pat K In article Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

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I’m looking forward to your website paul.  I haven’t got all the names matched up with the flies yet.  Thanks for the effort. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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Speaking of which, is the site up yet Paul?  Got a URL for us?

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It’s taking a little longer than I expected (doesn’t every project). Here is one of the flies: http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/flyswap2000/grw.jpg It is the Green Rock Worm tied by LaCourse. Nice fly but I had expected he’d tie something with wool. Paul

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I just found the pattern in the book by Taff Price "Fly Patterns an international guide" Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter Ross was a Scottish barber who combined the now alomost forgotten Teal and Silver and the Teal and Red to a (according to history) very succesful wet fly/attractor. Origins are (top of my head) somewhere late on the last century. I caught more fish on it than I care to remember. Ideal fly for rivers in rainy circumstances and staining water. Fish across and down and have fun! Also very good on lakes. The odd thing about the PR is that it either works for you, or not at all. There’s still some Scottish mystic left in the old pattern I guess.. Pattern: Hook: standard wet fly, normally 8 – 14 Tail: goldpheasant tippets Body: rear 2/3 flat silver, front 1/3 red seal (imitation)       ribbed with silver wire Wing: Teal Hackle: black hen or soft cock, tied to the underside of the hook. Herman, enjoying a wee dram.. Hi, I am collenting the stuff for the web site. Who is Peter Ross? Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Came home tonight to find the most unlikely collection of bugs imaginable on my doorstep.  Everything from dandruff to this big red lobster-lookin thing that looks like more than a match for any fish I’ve ever caught.  Really nice looking set of flies, and quite a few patterns I’ve never even heard of.  Considering the number of people who claimed to be beginners, I am really impressed by how nice these things all look.  Of course there were a couple that were conspicuous by their absence.  All drop-outs have to tie double next year! ;

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I will be going to a conference in Hilton Head at the end of April, and am interested in staying an extra day or two to try some fly fishing.  Anyone have any good experiences with guides or di-it-yourself tips. Thanks, Clint

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There’s a new book "Saltwater Angler’s Guide to The Southeast" from Wilderness Adventures that may help you. http://www.wildadv.com Good Luck! Bill Cunningham

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Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.  The one I have now is close to what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits. Willi

My wife Kate, is currently making one for my son Brandon.  She got a pattern from the sewing shop, and is using my Colombia as an inspiration for modifications to the pattern (like mesh and grommet on the pockets, etc.). She is also using Supplex instead of the cotton material the pattern spec’d.  I thought it would be a better idea for drying. HTH, Brian

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They don’t scream as loud as flies do. Hm…..sort of makes me wonder about the ethics of amputating limbs from captive trees.  I don’t suppose anyone out there has an opinion on this do they?

– Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                          Tom McGuane

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Willi, I have designed several fly fishing vests/shirts (not commercially, but for myself). I did the "engineering", my poor wife the sewing. One tip I have is to carefully consider how the load will be carried and distributed after the pockets are filled. If there is too much weight in the pockets in the front, the vest pulls down in front around your neck…very uncomfortable.

I have struggled for years to find a vest I liked. Bob’s point about a loaded vest digging into the back of your neck is quite true. Why do the makers invariably cut the necks of vests so high? Why do they put collars on the bloody things? Vest are supposed to be load carrying. It’s what they’re for. Moreover, the front bottom pockets are where most people want to carry stuff. It seems that very few vest manufacturers have grasped this fundamental design requirement. Some years ago I bought a Columbia Henry’s Fork vest (remember those bloody irritating adverts about ‘Ma’ knowing best and kicking arse if things weren’t just right, etc.). It cost a fortune having it shipped from the US, paying VAT and duty, etc. That bastard always left me with a sore, stiff neck. The Velcro on the pocket flaps matched nicely when the vest was hanging flat and empty in the closet, but didn’t when anything even slightly fat was put into the pockets. The following are my tips to any would be vest designer/maker, based on years of disappointment. 1. Go for fewer, better designed pockets, especially the big ones on the front bottom. Resist the temptation to include as many pockets as possible. More is NOT better! 2. Cut the neck low. 3. Make sure the pocket closures are designed for FILLED pockets. 4. Choose a material that is light, tough and strong and QUICK DRYING, rather than waterproof. 5. Use all plastic zippers (A friend recently gave me his old Sage ‘Strap vest’. It had been used in the sea and the YKK metal zippers had corroded badly). 6. Unless you really spend a lot of time wading very deep,  longer vests are more comfortable to wear: you feel less like Dolly Parton wearing them. My penny’orth Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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6. Unless you really spend a lot of time wading very deep,  longer vests are more comfortable to wear: you feel less like Dolly Parton wearing them.

I have no choice about what kind of vest I get.  I have to get the short vest or it will go past my massive ass.  I’m sorter than the other guy. However, I’m sure short men or ladies also need the short vest due to physical stature.  Very unlike sex, longer is not always better. Vern

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…I don’t remember the pattern number but if you have trouble finding it I believe I still have it around somewhere and can look it up….

Just did an on line search and came up with the following.  This is the pattern I used.  #2198- men’s sport vest. http://www.kwiksew.com/Patterns/_Cat_North/Frame.htm Good luck!

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What has ROFF turned into!?!?  Some sort of girly-man group?  Let’s all get out our needles and thread now!

It’s a balance thing Jon.  This Saturday I plan to take Becky out in the fields and teach her to kick shit.  Sunday we bake bread and do the Trick or Treat thing.  The next weekend is devoted to killing things and then we move on to bonsai.  :)

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: What has ROFF turned into!?!?  Some sort of girly-man group?  Let’s all : get out our needles and thread now! : : : It’s a balance thing Jon.  This Saturday I plan to take Becky out in the fields and teach her to : kick shit.  Sunday we bake bread and do the Trick or Treat thing.  The next weekend is devoted to : killing things and then we move on to bonsai.  :) In my case: bonsai = killing things (poor little tree never had a fighting chance we me wielding the clippers)

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In my case: bonsai = killing things (poor little tree never had a fighting chance we me wielding the clippers)

Hm…..sort of makes me wonder about the ethics of amputating limbs from captive trees.  I don’t suppose anyone out there has an opinion on this do they?

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Hm…..sort of makes me wonder about the ethics of amputating limbs from captive trees.  I don’t suppose anyone out there has an opinion on this do they?

Depends on if you eat the limb or not. — Charlie…

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: What has ROFF turned into!?!?  Some sort of girly-man group?  Let’s all : get out our needles and thread now!

Really…we gonna fish or we gonna sew ? (Mine has darts !) — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.  The one I have now is close to what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits. Willi

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Willi, I made a vest.  I always wanted one made from Blue Denim, sort of like a Levi Denim Jacket without sleeves.  I just used a vest I had and drew a pattern on some paper.  Then I laid out the things I wanted to carry and figured out the places and size for the pockets. The pockets all have Velcro closures.  It came out good and I have worn it for years.  I also made a tent, it was a lot of fun. Ernie Harrison Have you tried a Blood Knot Machine?  http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2

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Somehow I had a feeling Ernie was going to answer saying he’d made his own vest. My hat goes off to you. Steve Zimmerman

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Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.  The one I have now is close to what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits. Willi

I made several vests. I was ultimately satisfied with none of them  although my brother and a couple of other people still use them ). I went back to a custom made fishing jacket. With far too many pockets ! TL MC

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Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.

I made a vest while a grad student; I was too poor to buy one.  That was about 1956.  I used it till 1996.   It was still in good condition but I decided to treat myself to a new one. The trick is to plan ahead very carefully, so that you can sew the pockets on the inside the and outside without  interference. vince norris  The one I have now is close to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits. Willi

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Willi, I have designed several fly fishing vests/shirts (not commercially, but for myself). I did the "engineering", my poor wife the sewing. One tip I have is to carefully consider how the load will be carried and distributed after the pockets are filled. If there is too much weight in the pockets in the front, the vest pulls down in front around your neck…very uncomfortable. Also, it can be a challenge getting the best waterproof materials. Good luck. Bob Elliott

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.  The one I have now is close to what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits. Willi

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Anyone here every made a vest? None of the vests I’ve owned have the right sized pockets in the right places.  The one I have now is close to what I want. I was thinking about taking it apart and using it as a pattern and then making the changes I want. I’ve made a tent, sleeping bag and a down vest in the past, but they were made from kits.

Willi; I have made several vests using a Kwik Sew pattern.  The pattern is for a general purpose vest, not specifically for fishing.  But if you’re good enough with a sewing machine to make your own you won’t have any trouble modifying it to suit your needs.  I use my vest for hunting so the pockets outlined in the pattern are sufficient for my needs.  It won’t be much trouble to add a few more if you like.  this pattern is also too long for a good fishing vest but again, it should be easy enough to shorten.  I don’t remember the pattern number but if you have trouble finding it I believe I still have it around somewhere and can look it up.

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Yeah Charlie, but it was before she was famous. Ernie Harrison Have you tried a Blood Knot Machine?  http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Somehow I had a feeling Ernie was going to answer saying he’d made his own vest. My hat goes off to you. Hell, Ernie made Martha Stewart once<g. — Charlie…

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I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

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Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated.

Everything (and more) can be found at:     http://www.bluewaterweb.com/ Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat (Remove BOAT) http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/sideline/8620

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Spring for a copy of the Yachtsmans Guide To The Bahamas by Meredith Fields (?).  It’s a very useful book for planning your cruise and finding your way around. What part(s) of the Bahamas are you going to?  (It’s a BIG place) I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

Steve Kuiper, CPA Steve Kuiper & Co., P.A. Altamonte Springs, FL

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February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. CruisingSailor.com  has a lot of free info in the  free World Cruising Guide, East Coast of US, Bahamas section.

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I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

Fly your yellow quaranteen flag when you enter Bahamian waters and keep it up until you clear. Most marinas will allow you to tie up while you clear. In fact many will call customs for you.  You can go ashore with all the paper work but your crew must stay on board until the boat is cleared. You may want to get a fishing licence at the same time! You are supposed to obtain a permit for your pet before you arrive.  Rabies shots must be a month old and less than a year old. I have heard of those arriving with just a Rabies and Health Cert being allowed to fill in the forms but don’t count on it.  If you call the Freeport Animal Clinic and ask nicely, they may fax you the forms wich include instructions on how to complete the documentation. This is then sent to Nassau and I think you are supposed to receive something back.  Take copies of all this before you send it off as you may never get a reply!  At least you have something to show when you arrive. The Lucayan Marina at Freeport is world class! have a nice trip! .   Lyman K Duggan   Naval electonics inc   6717 Benjamin Road   Tampa Florida 33634 –Marine TV Antenna Systems– (813) 885 6091 fax 885 3789   http://www.naval.com

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THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON

I think Ralph’s answer was based on the the original post requesting for fishing spots within mountain biking distance from Vancouver.  I agree Chehalis and Vedder are hot spots but they are a little far for biking.  Good post though. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON I think Ralph’s answer was based on the the original post requesting for fishing spots within mountain biking distance from Vancouver.  I agree Chehalis and Vedder are hot spots but they are a little far for biking.  Good post though. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

I believe I’ve blabbed excessively about the "50 million" salmon returning to the Fraser previously. This years sockeye run is hoped to be 500% bigger than last year. Unfortunately if it proves true it virtually guarentees 10 times the number of anglers will go after them. While large numbers of salmon return to the Chehalis and Vedder rivers each summer and fall so do equally large numbers of fishermen (and women). Anyone who is travelling to this area and hopes to sample those fisheries while here, I strongly urge that you arrange your fishing time to fall during the week days to avoid the worst of the crowds Ralph H replace "spamsucks" with direct for email reply.

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I’ve only gone fishing a few times in my life and I’m currently in the Pittsburgh area.  Since all I have is a fishing rod, what I need is some starting points.  If anyone knows of fishing sites in the Pittsburgh area along with the appropriate season for fishing there, I would appreciate Thanks.

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I’ve only gone fishing a few times in my life and I’m currently in the Pittsburgh area.  Since all I have is a fishing rod, what I need is some starting points.  If anyone knows of fishing sites in the Pittsburgh area along with the appropriate season for fishing there, I would appreciate Thanks.

Serene Fly-Fishing Adventures fishing all of Pa top waters from Erie tribs to W.B.Delaware for wild trout.  Cent Pa limestone contact Pete for mor info.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve only gone fishing a few times in my life and I’m currently in the Pittsburgh area.  Since all I have is a fishing rod, what I need is some starting points.  If anyone knows of fishing sites in the Pittsburgh area along with the appropriate season for fishing there, I would appreciate Thanks. Serene Fly-Fishing Adventures fishing all of Pa top waters from Erie tribs to W.B.Delaware for wild trout.  Cent Pa limestone contact Pete for mor info.

There’s 2 or more books out for streams in PA. Don B. Wishful collector of Gillums and Dickersons – owner of Montague, H-I and Heddons

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I’m going to try shad fishing this year in Mass.  Any recommendations for flies to tie?   Any other tips would also be appreciated.   _Rich_

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  I’m going to try shad fishing this year in Mass.  Any   recommendations   for flies to tie?   Any other tips would also be appreciated.     _Rich_ Last year at the Merrimack River I had good luck with small clousers.  I can’t honestly say I was trying to catch just shad, but that’s what took the fly.  The most important aspect of this type of fishing is getting the fly down to where the fish are, any fly reasonably close in imitation will work as long as it gets down to the fish.  In a strong current you’re going to need a weighted line such as a Teeny 350, let the current and the line do the work for you. Don

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Last year at the Merrimack River I had good luck with small clousers.  I can’t honestly say I was trying to catch just shad, but that’s what took the fly.  The most important aspect of this type of fishing is getting the fly down to where the fish are, any fly reasonably close in imitation will work as long as it gets down to the fish.  In a strong current you’re going to need a weighted line such as a Teeny 350, let the current and the line do the work for you. Don

I’ve been shad fishing the past two weekends on the Roanoke River in NC and have had the best success with 2-1/0 white/yellow clousers.  Everyone says to go small(6-4), but I did much better with the larger flies.  Granted, these are Hickory shad, but they did seem to prefer the larger fly.  I also had a lot of success with a gold or silver ’spoon’  fly(braided mylar coated with epoxy). The visibility in the Roanoke hasn’t been great, and they really seemed to like the flash.  -William Ivey   Raleigh, NC

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Green line sounds like a Cortland model.  Good luck.

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: It’s mine.  I lost it in 1993.  Please drop it in the mail and I’ll send : you the postage by return mail.  Thanks. : Rick Nice try Rick, I suppose my story will get a similar response!

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Don’t laugh I’m serious. I have a 7′ fly rod that I found at a drainage ditch a few years back. I had not used it until recently and have found that I really enjoy fly fishing. The reel is aluminum and it has some green line that looks like a nylon mesh with a plastic coating and a metal loop at the end to tie leader. However, it is starting to show signs of wear. I have looked for replacement line at some local stores but nothing seems comparable in weight and consistency of the green line. Does anyone have any ideas as to what kind of line this is and where I might be able to get more? Also, I have read quite a bit of posts in this group about equipment, but, not much on fly selection and presentation. What are some of the more successful flys and presentations for trout in small streams? Thanks in advance for your theories, suggestions and knowledge.

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