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Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi

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Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi

 So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom

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Hans van der Stroom schrieb in Nachricht Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom

I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously quite a few people replied. Hope he manages to get it going though. Would be nice to have something a little more tangible from other ROFF members, makes it more personal somehow. Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

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I did the same.  Last I heard from him. Hans van der Stroom schrieb in Nachricht William Loehman heeft geschreven in bericht

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anybody know what happened to the fly swap that was posted on this newsgroup a while back?  I Emailled the poster and haven’t heard from him. Willi So did I! perhaps he’s busy? Or a little confused by all the reactions? Hans van der Stroom I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously quite a few people replied. Hope he manages to get it going though. Would be nice to have something a little more tangible from other ROFF members, makes it more personal somehow. Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

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I got no reply as yet either. Perhaps he got too many e-mails ? Obviously Tight Lines ! Mike Connor

Maybe he’s making a list to sell to phone solicitors…..;] No really. Maybe life intervened. pete

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It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. Cheers, Herman Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Peter Ross was a Scottish barber who combined the now alomost forgotten Teal and Silver and the Teal and Red to a (according to history) very succesful wet fly/attractor. Origins are (top of my head) somewhere late on the last century. I caught more fish on it than I care to remember. Ideal fly for rivers in rainy circumstances and staining water. Fish across and down and have fun! Also very good on lakes. The odd thing about the PR is that it either works for you, or not at all. There’s still some Scottish mystic left in the old pattern I guess.. Pattern: Hook: standard wet fly, normally 8 – 14 Tail: goldpheasant tippets Body: rear 2/3 flat silver, front 1/3 red seal (imitation)       ribbed with silver wire Wing: Teal Hackle: black hen or soft cock, tied to the underside of the hook. Herman, enjoying a wee dram.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am collenting the stuff for the web site. Who is Peter Ross? Paul … Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Ah, thanks Herman, for awhile there I thought I screwed up in picking that one out to give to Mu….the label had me confused. (more than usual, that is) Frank (where am I?) Church

|It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some |time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. |Cheers, Herman |

| | Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment | of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it | that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? | | BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by | Herman. | | Mu | |– |Cheers, Herman |Herman Nijland |Daytime webmaster |Lifetime flyfisher

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I thought I was short a fly for a moment because I didn’t see anyflies like that.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ah, thanks Herman, for awhile there I thought I screwed up in picking that one out to give to Mu….the label had me confused. (more than usual, that is) Frank (where am I?) Church |It was mine, promised it to you somewhere in the Peter Ross thread some |time ago. Just forgot to adjust the label. |Cheers, Herman | | | Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment | of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it | that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? | | BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by | Herman. | | Mu | |– |Cheers, Herman |Herman Nijland |Daytime webmaster |Lifetime flyfisher

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‘Twas an exciting day at the Kirkpatrick household yesterday when the Fly Menagerie arrived.  Even my wife, an occasional fflady (between golf and tennis and gardening pursuits), was intrigued.  She especially liked the cute flys with the eyes.  I was duly impressed by the level of fly-tying-skills displayed, all previously expressed caveats, rationalizations, and absurd excuses notwithstanding.  Geez….These guys are GOOD!  I must have obtained the hand-selected display flys that Frank had obtained from some secret source, mimicing the identical fly types purportedly sent by Roffians.  Great job guys.  I too am looking forward to the web site for more info on how and when to fish each fly.  Thanks to all participants. Pat K In article Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu

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I’m looking forward to your website paul.  I haven’t got all the names matched up with the flies yet.  Thanks for the effort. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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Speaking of which, is the site up yet Paul?  Got a URL for us?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking forward to your website paul.  I haven’t got all the names matched up with the flies yet.  Thanks for the effort.

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It’s taking a little longer than I expected (doesn’t every project). Here is one of the flies: http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/flyswap2000/grw.jpg It is the Green Rock Worm tied by LaCourse. Nice fly but I had expected he’d tie something with wool. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Speaking of which, is the site up yet Paul?  Got a URL for us? I’m looking forward to your website paul.  I haven’t got all the names matched up with the flies yet.  Thanks for the effort.

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I just found the pattern in the book by Taff Price "Fly Patterns an international guide" Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter Ross was a Scottish barber who combined the now alomost forgotten Teal and Silver and the Teal and Red to a (according to history) very succesful wet fly/attractor. Origins are (top of my head) somewhere late on the last century. I caught more fish on it than I care to remember. Ideal fly for rivers in rainy circumstances and staining water. Fish across and down and have fun! Also very good on lakes. The odd thing about the PR is that it either works for you, or not at all. There’s still some Scottish mystic left in the old pattern I guess.. Pattern: Hook: standard wet fly, normally 8 – 14 Tail: goldpheasant tippets Body: rear 2/3 flat silver, front 1/3 red seal (imitation)       ribbed with silver wire Wing: Teal Hackle: black hen or soft cock, tied to the underside of the hook. Herman, enjoying a wee dram.. Hi, I am collenting the stuff for the web site. Who is Peter Ross? Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … Got my package in the mail the other day.  It was a wonderful assortment of flies.  I hope we can get some more info on some of them.  Who was it that was collecting info for a web site? Paul? BTW, who tied the Peter Ross?  Mine was labeled as being an Elk & CDC by Herman. Mu — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Came home tonight to find the most unlikely collection of bugs imaginable on my doorstep.  Everything from dandruff to this big red lobster-lookin thing that looks like more than a match for any fish I’ve ever caught.  Really nice looking set of flies, and quite a few patterns I’ve never even heard of.  Considering the number of people who claimed to be beginners, I am really impressed by how nice these things all look.  Of course there were a couple that were conspicuous by their absence.  All drop-outs have to tie double next year! ;

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Actually, it will work just fine.  If you are having trouble getting a big, bushy dry out there with a bow/arrow cast, try building up a leader that is quite heavy through the butt and mid sections, dropping off to a fairly long tippet of light material.  The leader will unroll just like the fly line, and the tippet will pile.  Size the leader to give you the kind of distance you want. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest. I can try this.  However, I don’t think it will work with a dry fly.  I’m first going to try the Bow and Arrow cast. Vern

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[short casting snipped] Since everyone here is doing the b&a, somebody has to be the asshole and be different.  My turn.  The b&a will work of course, but there are alternatives.  One method I use with slow rods; pickup as if doing a conventional cast but begin the forward cast while the fly is still in front of you.  It takes a smooth, low power stroke, but it works. Peter

        this is worth a try:  if you can face the center of the creek, while standing, or squatting, at the left bank, allow your line to drift downstream the same length necessary to reach your target. then, when the line is at its greatest "stretch", just fire a single forward cast with your rod parallel with the stream surface. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Vern; Get in the water upstream of the spot and shake out enough lose line to drift your fly downstream to the fish John Before you buy.

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Otherwise Fishless in Kansas

You’re probably going to need to find some farm ponds or get a boat (or a float tube) to do any fly fishing around there. Can be done, though. — Charlie…

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get the machete out of the truck and clear out your backcast then go and make some clearance on the other side down a few beers and take an nap to wait for the fish to calm down then make your regular cast to the fish. take less time than perfecting the b&a cast – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I also need help casting to that "G" spot.  You know, that GREAT spot.  Let me described the location.  I can see the spot about 15 feet away if I stand with vegetation behind me, to the left of me, and to the right of me.  I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.  Additionally, it’s on a small body of water that doesn’t seam to have any real service current to speak of.  So, floating the fly under the overhang is not an option. I know there are fish under the overhang.  Sometimes I can see them surfacing.  I just can’t get my fly where I want it.  WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO

GET IT A good friend taught me how to fish such a place with out the b&a cast. Wayno has the right idea. Especially at 15 feet, let line drift down, pick up the line and begin a back cast to where the target is. Don’t forward cast, let the fly drop on the backcast to the spot. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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Vern, Bow and Arrow Cast!!! Joe Humphries demonstrates it in his small stream tactics video. However…please note: It is not pleasant to grasp the hook at the bend, pull back and release only to find the hook imbedded in your thumb as the rod is still reverberating in your other hand. It hurts like hell and worse, it puts all the fish down in three counties as you’re cussin’ up a storm. As Tom mentions, pinch the flyline at the leader junction, pull back and release. Matt & I use this technique quite a bit up here…in fact, it is a variation of the looping flyline technique of the b&a that Humphries demonstrates. Just be sure to keep the leader/tippet/fly in front of you or else as you release it you could be hooked in a worse place then your thumb. Always wear glasses ..trust me on this one. You can also have a leader/tippet combo as long as you like…a good b&a technique will turn it over. You can also increase length just by pinching further up the flyline (thus increasing the amount of "dead" line to be energized) and when you become really proficient at it (Matt has it mastered) you can actually b&a a cast as the line is still on the water as it is drifting back to you. Hope this helps, Walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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everyone else has properly suggested the bow & arrow cast… me, i’d simply find a taller Clarence… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Vern

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[short casting snipped] Since everyone here is doing the b&a, somebody has to be the asshole and be different.  My turn.  The b&a will work of course, but there are alternatives.  One method I use with slow rods; pickup as if doing a conventional cast but begin the forward cast while the fly is still in front of you.  It takes a smooth, low power stroke, but it works. Peter

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I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest.

I can try this.  However, I don’t think it will work with a dry fly.  I’m first going to try the Bow and Arrow cast. Vern

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  I could use a little help.  Well, I do need psychological help, but that’s not what I’m talking about today.  I also need help casting to that "G" spot.  You know, that GREAT spot.  Let me described the location.  I can see the spot about 15 feet away if I stand with vegetation behind me, to the left of me, and to the right of me.  I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.  Additionally, it’s on a small body of water that doesn’t seam to have any real service current to speak of.  So, floating the fly under the overhang is not an option.  I know there are fish under the overhang.  Sometimes I can see them surfacing.  I just can’t get my fly where I want it.  WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO GET IT THERE? Vern

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I guess the reason Jack posted this four times is because there are four fingers you should watch. Ernie Harrison Have you tried a Blood Knot Machine?  http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Use the bow and arrow cast. A good article appeared in Flyfisher several months ago describing how it is done. You basically grab the fly at the hook bend, hold the line tight with your casting hand, and pull the fly to put a bend in the rod. Let go of the fly and let the rod shoot the fly to the target. I would suggest using barbless hooks just in case. With practice, reasonable distance can be obtained. Good luck and watch your fingers. Jack in Tenn.

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Walt Winter showed me a variation if the bow and arrow cast, used with a 5-6 foot leader/tippet.  You grasp the line at the junction of the line/leader, load the rod and release.  The difference between this and other variations (like Joe Humphreys) is that you can get a longer piece of line out with Walt’s method. It’s absolutely deadly. Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "If you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP  A bow and arrow cast will work at that range.  Grasp your fly firmly between your thumb and forefinger of your non-rod hand. Tension your rod by bending it away from you with your rod hand. Aim like you would with a slingshot, and just let go.  If you practice a little at this at home before you go fishing you can get pretty accurate, TL MC

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<snip bow and arrow cast.

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Use the bow and arrow cast. A good article appeared in Flyfisher several months ago describing how it is done. You basically grab the fly at the hook bend, hold the line tight with your casting hand, and pull the fly to put a bend in the rod. Let go of the fly and let the rod shoot the fly to the target. I would suggest using barbless hooks just in case. With practice, reasonable distance can be obtained. Good luck and watch your fingers. Jack in Tenn.

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<SNIP  A bow and arrow cast will work at that range.  Grasp your fly firmly between your thumb and forefinger of your non-rod hand. Tension your rod by bending it away from you with your rod hand. Aim like you would with a slingshot, and just let go.  If you practice a little at this at home before you go fishing you can get pretty accurate, TL MC

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I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.

Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest. But, if you need to prove a point with the flyrod…a bow and arrow cast comes to mind as does the use of a 10′-er and the same general dapping principle. Your pal, — TimW

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I’m just wondering why no one recommended the BOW AND ARROW CAST…

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WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO GET IT THERE?

Bow and arrow cast. — Charlie…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… : Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook. Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper I agree, i’m so damn jealous my skin’s a turnin’ green. great report…. –Wataugan Walt

I betcha he never left his house.  I betcha he invented all of this just to piss us off. . . .    It’s working, it’s working, I’m pissed.   Great trip, Andrew.  We all desreve at least one of these per lifetime. Peter Peter        Merry Christmas

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I betcha he never left his house.  I betcha he invented all of this just to piss us off. . . .    It’s working, it’s working, I’m pissed.   Great trip, Andrew.  We all desreve at least one of these per lifetime. Peter

I just want to say, right here, right now, that I have the best wife in the world, not least because she lets me do this more than once in a lifetime.   Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ The jpegs are a little big, so it’s kinda slow to load, but it’ll give you a nice sense of what the trip was like.   Lest any of you think this was some big bucks, Gucci trip,  this cost us less than $600/apiece, not counting airfare to King Salmon and malt beverages.  Start saving your pennies, men. — Andrew Brunette

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just want to say, right here, right now, that I have the best wife in the world, not least because she lets me do this more than once in a lifetime.   Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ The jpegs are a little big, so it’s kinda slow to load, but it’ll give you a nice sense of what the trip was like.   Lest any of you think this was some big bucks, Gucci trip,  this cost us less than $600/apiece, not counting airfare to King Salmon and malt beverages.  Start saving your pennies, men. — Andrew Brunette

Andrew Nice site and pix.  Actually this is a great idea as we all like to talk about our trips and stuff.  Building a simple site combines the pix with the text for a better story.   Looks like some of us (me) will have to brush up on our HTML skills. Peter Peter        Merry Christmas

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: : Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for : size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ Andrew, please let me know where you bought those pictures, I’d like to see if they’ll put together a "saltwater flats" trip for me…

Rite-Aid photo counter.  They have the plastic bushes, blow up fish, everything.  They even told me, "you don’t look like a good enough fisherman to use the big fish dummies, use these middlesized ones instead."   Didn’t even charge me more than the normal 6.95 a roll for the Pix.  Is it great living in the age of the service economy or what? — Andrew Brunette

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Alagnak 1998 It was a hot, buggy afternoon when we landed in King Salmon.  One of our party was already missing, having been marooned in a hostile check-in line in Anchorage.  We had stopped there to see some friends, pick up licenses and stimulate the late summer business of the local fly shop economy.  

Hi Andrew, This reminded me of my first AK trip. I floated the Togiak River with Bus Bergman, Jim and Kitty Vincent (Rio Line Company) and my cousin in 1976. It was a wonderful trip and was the real AK experience. Float trips are great. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook. Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper

I agree, i’m so damn jealous my skin’s a turnin’ green. great report…. –Wataugan Walt

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Great report Andrew … thanks for the post.

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: Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook.

Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper

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Great report – thanks. Thomas Gilg

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: Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook.

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Alagnak 1998 It was a hot, buggy afternoon when we landed in King Salmon.  One of our party was already missing, having been marooned in a hostile check-in line in Anchorage.  We had stopped there to see some friends, pick up licenses and stimulate the late summer business of the local fly shop economy.   After trying to locate the bush carrier that we were to use, we found out that we had a couple of hours to kill, so while waiting for Dave, we loaded up on the supplies that were too heavy to fly in from Seattle, notably Milwaukee

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go? Dave ps please respond to the group and to email, it is easy to miss when only posted to the group!

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go?

try "50 Hikes in Central Washington"  published by The Mountaineers. -p — Rural Health Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195.

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go?

Hey Dave — that’s a pretty desolate area.  Don’t know about hiking there, but for fishing, try Dry Falls Lake.  It is the epicenter of the massive flooding that we had in the area in the last couple of million years.  It is a geologic mecca.  This lake is very well protected and is not stocked — no motors at all, barbless hooks, and a one fish limit.  It is prime for canoes/kayaks/float tubes.  I’ve taken some large trout there. Do not take an inflatible raft or inflatible kayak there — the winds can get you big time.  I have an entire gut wrenching/leach infested arms/ lost gear story about that.

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go? Dave ps please respond to the group and to email, it is easy to miss when only posted to the group!

Dave, I spent 5 years at CWU in E-burg and enjoyed the solitude provided on the Tanum (ridge) and especially behind the airport on the Monashtash.  For fishing (and duck hunting)  I used to go across the Vantage bridge toward George and attend to the "potholes".  The Yakima river was always a great resource and fishing was often good (back in the 60’s and 70’s).   All in all, Ellensburg is a great jumping off point.  I have only good memories of the place.  Perhaps someone can provide trail info for you but I just bushwacked in the low brush forest.  Careful though if you do that.  It’s easy to get lost in this country. Bill BTW, the road up to Monashtash used to go through toward Wenachee but even in the 60’s it was a poor wagon road.  It may be one fantastic trail by now.  You should smell the aroma on a warm spring day!

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go?

Try the Greewater River off Hwy 410.  The end of the road trailhead offers a well-marked trail paralleling a 20′ – 30′ wide river ideal for fly-fishing.   Jeffrey Olson

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go? Dave ps please respond to the group and to email, it is easy to miss when only posted to the group!

Hi Dave, Please tell us your definition of "Central Washington".  Do you mean the goegraphic center of the state east of Wenatchee, or do you include the Central Cascades?  If you include the Central Cascades, I suggest you pick up a copy of "100 Hikes in the Alpine Lakes".  It is published by the Mountaineers and contains info on many great dayhikes and backpack trips in the area (the Cascades Mountains between I-90 and Hwy. 2). Also, if your range extends a little farther north, there is another volume, "100 Hikes in the Glacier Peak Region". Kerry

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A buddy and me want to do a little hiking, maybe a little fishing this summer. We don’t know ANYTHING so we are looking for easy well marked trails. Any ideas of where we should go? Hey Dave — that’s a pretty desolate area.

Hey, Gary….there’s over 1 million people in eastern Washington.  Is that your definition of desolate??

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Thinking about camping in vermont and want input on good campgrounds with large private sites and activities for children. I was looking at Lake Dunmore Kampersville. Has anyone ever been there and what is it like. Thanks Pat

Pat, Lake Dunmore is very nice.  You may also want to look at the Vermont State Parks Website.  I have included my standard message below for your ease of access.  Good luck. You can visit the Vermont State Parks website at http://www.state.vt.us/anr/fpr/parks/. The site details all of Vermont’s state parks and camping opportunities. James Ehlers Underhill, Vemont Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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The 1998 Vermont Campground Guide is now in print. Call VT Forests and Parks at 802-241-3655 to have a copy mailed to you. The guide lists all state parks as well as private. Good descriptions for both. VT Campground Association:  http://www.campvermont.com VT Forests & Parks:   http://www.state.vt.us/anr/fpr/parks Dev Vallencourt                      "Simplicity is the essence Center Designs                                 of good design." Waterbury Center, VT         -Mr. Brossier, 7th gr. art teacher http://www.sover.net/~laserldy

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Thinking about camping in vermont and want input on good campgrounds with large private sites and activities for children. I was looking at Lake Dunmore Kampersville. Has anyone ever been there and what is it like. Thanks Pat

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Anybody been there this week or last?  What are conditions and what is happening? Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                           Tom McGuane

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Anybody been there this week or last?  What are conditions and what is happening? Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                           Tom McGuane

Hi Michael, According to a friend who traveled through the area, the fishing in south east Idaho has been great.  Check with the Stonefly Angler in Boise at 208-338-1700.  They should be able to give you up to the minute info. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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I am looking into the purchase of a sea kayak for use in flyfishing.  I plan on fishing from the kayak for large fish, the kind that take 5-8 lbs. of pressure to land (doesn’t sound like much but believe me!). Does anyone with experience with available types of sea kayaks have recommendations regarding kayak length, materials composition, one- versus two-person models, paddle types, etc.?  I’m dealing with winds of 10-15 knots and 9-ft. flyrods. Sorry to ask such a general question.  Advice on any of the above subjects would be sincerely appreciated. Marshall Cutchin

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: I am looking into the purchase of a sea kayak for use in flyfishing.  I : plan on fishing from the kayak for large fish, the kind that take 5-8 lbs. : of pressure to land (doesn’t sound like much but believe me!). : Does anyone with experience with available types of sea kayaks have : recommendations regarding kayak length, materials composition, one- versus : two-person models, paddle types, etc.?  I’m dealing with winds of 10-15 : knots and 9-ft. flyrods. : Sorry to ask such a general question.  Advice on any of the above subjects : would be sincerely appreciated. : Marshall Cutchin *** Amongst the fiberglass models .. the Current Designs Pieces is excellent for fishing although the MOST STABLE KAYAK FOR FISHING is still a double Klepper!

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Destination question for the group: I am planning (on very short notice) a family vacation to Destin/Panama City, Fla.  Should be arriving down there Saturday 6/24. I’ll be driving this time, so I’ll have my vehicle at my disposal. The trip will be heavily slanted towards keeping my wife (not a fisherman) and my three kids (8,6 & 4) happy, but I will have some time available for myself. I assume there’s inshore opportunity for speckled trout, redfish, maybe small tarpon and even snook. On previous trips I’ve been able to do a little evening/morning fishing scattered in here and there. I also usually get away with a half day or so of fishing. The 1/2 day will probably be spent fishing off a party boat or "six pack" type charter. As far as tackle goes, I have to admit I havent much experience with salt water fly fishing. There are no saltwater opportunities in Missouri I’ve got a few BIG deceivers that I’ve used for yellowtail, baracuda and bonita off boats out of southern CA & baja Mexico. I also have an assortment of jigs & plugs for my spinning & casting tackle. Most of this is your typical heavy lead jigs and lipped diving plugs like "Cisco Kid". I’ve got a Sage 890RPL. I use an 8wt Bass Bug Taper line on it. The reel is a Lamson 3. There’s about 100 yds of backing. I’ll also be taking a 7 1/2′ spinning rod with 200+ yds of 17lb mono. I haven’t booked a room yet, but I’m sure we’ll be staying beachfront. So here come the questions:  1) Where to fish  2) What to fish with, epecially inshore in the surf or around     jetties/piers/bridges. I am no longer into chucking a hunk     of squid or shrimp out and seeing what happens. I don’t need     to use fly tackle exclusively, but that would be nice.  3) Any advice along the lines of how to spend the 1/2 day fishing     trip. Open to almost anything.  and 4) What kind of things other than the beach and pool are there         to do for the family.  *** THANKS IN ADVANCE! ***  -Mark-              ,              O          .:/          Mark Devino          ,,///;,   ,;/   Sr. Recruiter   o     o:::::::;;///    APPLIED DATA SYSTEMS      . ::::::::;;\    St. Louis/St. Charles, Missouri               ‘;      "I fish, therefore I lie"

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: Destination question for the group: : I am planning (on very short notice) a family vacation to : Destin/Panama City, Fla.  Should be arriving down there : Saturday 6/24. Which one, Destin and Panama City are like an hour plus apart.   Destin and Ft. Walton Beach are just across the bridge from each other.  If you are in Panama City, I can’t offer any help. : I’ll be driving this time, so I’ll have my vehicle at my disposal. : The trip will be heavily slanted towards keeping my wife (not a : fisherman) and my three kids (8,6 & 4) happy, but I will have : some time available for myself. I assume there’s inshore : opportunity for speckled trout, redfish, maybe small tarpon : and even snook. : On previous trips I’ve been able to do a little evening/morning : fishing scattered in here and there. I also usually get away with : a half day or so of fishing. The 1/2 day will probably be spent : fishing off a party boat or "six pack" type charter. : As far as tackle goes, I have to admit I havent much experience : with salt water fly fishing. There are no saltwater opportunities : in Missouri I’ve got a few BIG deceivers that I’ve used for : yellowtail, baracuda and bonita off boats out of southern CA & : baja Mexico. I also have an assortment of jigs & plugs for my : spinning & casting tackle. Most of this is your typical heavy : lead jigs and lipped diving plugs like "Cisco Kid". : I’ve got a Sage 890RPL. I use an 8wt Bass Bug Taper line on it. Perfect.   : The reel is a Lamson 3. There’s about 100 yds of backing. I’ll : also be taking a 7 1/2′ spinning rod with 200+ yds of 17lb : mono. I haven’t booked a room yet, but I’m sure we’ll be : staying beachfront. : So here come the questions: :  1) Where to fish If you are in Destin, find a public beach on Chochtahachie (sp) Bay and wade out to whatever grass flats you can find.  The deceivers should work fine for Specs and Reds.  Maybe some crab or shrimp patterns would also be useful. The surf or jetties at east pass should give you some opportunities to strip some deceivers past some nice fish.   :  2) What to fish with, epecially inshore in the surf or around :     jetties/piers/bridges. I am no longer into chucking a hunk :     of squid or shrimp out and seeing what happens. I don’t need :     to use fly tackle exclusively, but that would be nice. Jigs on spinning gear work well but with the 8 weight you can rig up some front weighted flys that would act similarily. :  3) Any advice along the lines of how to spend the 1/2 day fishing :     trip. Open to almost anything. :  and 4) What kind of things other than the beach and pool are there :         to do for the family. Left Ft. Walton 16 years ago, so I don’t really know what is there any more. :  *** THANKS IN ADVANCE! *** Good luck and have fun. Bryan :  -Mark- :              ,             :  O          .:/          Mark Devino :          ,,///;,   ,;/   Sr. Recruiter :   o     o:::::::;;///    APPLIED DATA SYSTEMS :      . ::::::::;;\    St. Louis/St. Charles, Missouri   :             ‘; :      "I fish, therefore I lie"

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Don’t forget to take some Clousers-no better fly for anything in the salt.  Lady fish in the surf or trout/reds on the flats eat them like nothing else.

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

I have made the three – plus hour trip out to Ithaca from Albany a few times to fish for landlocked salmon, brown trout, and rainbow trout in the spring and fall.  Mostly I have stuck to Fall Creek, but I have also fished Salmon Creek which is a short drive from Ithaca.  Fall Creek flows right through Ithaca, and some of the best fishing can be in the large pool at the base of the magnificent waterfall about 1.5 miles upstream from where the creek pours into Cayuga Lake.  For info on what when where why etc. I suggest the book "Good Fishing in Western New York"…I think it is available from Countryman Press. Right now it may be a little early for the rainbows, but browns and salmon may be in.  It’s been a dry fall around here, though, and I haven’t heard anything great about the fishing in the Finger Lakes tribs.  Of course, if you live in the area it’s no big deal to check it out…if you hear anything about the salmon run, please post it.  I am desperate to catch a landlock on my flyrod!!! Paul DiConza     NY Capital District Angler

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Hi out-there ! I’m an fly-fisher from Northern part of Sweden and i’m looking forward to discuss the wonderful waters and wilderness areas that we can enjoy, here round the arctic circle. I hope to read from you ! / A.Ronnback

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(Anders Ronnback,9558,1xxx-xx) writes: I’m an fly-fisher from Northern part of Sweden and i’m looking forward to discuss the wonderful waters and wilderness areas that we can enjoy, here round the arctic circle.

I am curious how northern european water rights work. I know that most waters in the British Isles and France are private, is it the same in northern Scandinavia?. I wonder because the videos of the Alta, for example, show a very sparcely populated terrain ( I know the Alta is in Norway but I assume that there might be simularities in water usage). Thanks for the info. Rodrigo

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(Anders Ronnback,9558,1xxx-xx) writes:

I’m an fly-fisher from Northern part of Sweden and i’m looking forward to discuss the wonderful waters and wilderness areas that we can enjoy, here round the arctic circle. Hi, from a third generation Swede in Seattle.  My family was in Sweden the previous Summer, & although time was short I would have loved to try out some of your Atlantic Salmon fishing.  I had just come from Scotland where I had tried Slamon fishing on Islay. Larry Johnson

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