Not Bill McNeese, but Dave McNeese.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Adam, The clear intermediate slow sinking tropical lines are designed for fishing in the warm weather out of a boat. I would overline one size larger than your rod size so it will handle those larger flies better. I would use an SA/Mastery "Tarpon" monocore slow sinking clear WF10S on a #9 rod for your trip. I would also do the same thing with a WF10F Mastery "Tarpon" floater for poppers. Or you could put a WF11 on a #10 rod ? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com
Hi Marilyn, Your response brought up one more question: My 9 wt is a Sage 3-pc saltwater RPLX (I think, it’s about 6 years old), and I am a reasonable caster, do you still recommend overlining the rod. I’ve had my rods built by Bill McNeese (steelhead fisherman out of Seattle) and he has always told me to use the same wt line. Regards, Adam
For that kind of fishing I have been using the intermediate tip lines. made by everybody now and I use Cortland. Really helps to load the line and when fishing with big streamers is really a help, especially when blind casting all day.
What are the casting qualities of an intermediate tipped line? Does it hinge? Do they do well in warm water. Do I have to bring it all the way to the boat. My concern here is that as I fish the shore, will I be able to pick the line up and get it back to the shore the way one can do it with a floating line (ie, will I be able to keep the distance from the boat to shore relatively constant)? About how deep will it go, do they have the regular 1-2"/minute sink rates? Thanks, Adam
Hi Adam, The clear intermediate slow sinking tropical lines are designed for fishing in the warm weather out of a boat. I would overline one size larger than your rod size so it will handle those larger flies better. I would use an SA/Mastery "Tarpon" monocore slow sinking clear WF10S on a #9 rod for your trip. I would also do the same thing with a WF10F Mastery "Tarpon" floater for poppers. Or you could put a WF11 on a #10 rod ? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass. It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line. I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads). I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies. Thanks, Adam —
Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass. It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line. I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads). I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies. Thanks, Adam —
For that kind of fishing I have been using the intermediate tip lines. made by everybody now and I use Cortland. Really helps to load the line and when fishing with big streamers is really a help, especially when blind casting all day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass. It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line. I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads). I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies. Thanks, Adam —
If a person were to find themselves in Puerto Vallarta for a week, how, and where would one go about arranging to fly fish? What equipment would you be able (or should) take with you? What does a charter cost? etc. Thanks, Steve
I’d take a 10 or 9 wt. Prefer at 10. Take a sinking line and a floater and a basket. Take flies surf fishermen use in california and big poppers. You may not be able to find an experienced fly guide but you can catch fish. Possibilities should include Roosters, and Dorado, Robalo (Snook), Corvina (like a Red but in the surf and tricker.) You may have to guide the guide but you should be able to find a Panga and a guia who can find fish.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If a person were to find themselves in Puerto Vallarta for a week, how, and where would one go about arranging to fly fish? What equipment would you be able (or should) take with you? What does a charter cost? etc. Thanks, Steve
MR Neeley There are a number of charter boats at PV . You will truely be in a fishing paradise . PLEASE take advantage of every moment ., I have seen little kids go out on dugout like canoes and catch 20 pound dolphin , on hand lines . The other pratice it for the locals to go out in their long boats with nets streches inbetween the boats . they can vacumm a bay in a matter of hours . the bottom there is rocky , with the shore line with small pebbles . and some sand thrown in too . In addition to a fly rod i would bring a nice light tackle spin outfit …and a good a medium action bait reel.. i use the penn 965 . For Fly fishing i would go to a a surfing hot spot north of town called Punta de Mita . there is a little bay right at the point . . Wade out like 100 yards , on the rocky bottom , and climb on top on one of the many bolders in the surf . In the incoming tide you can cast 360 degrees above and out of the water . It is unlimited what you can catch there in about 4 feet of water , but it includes , rock bass , little tuna , dolphin , and tarpon . I have seen sharks there also . The wave will come in and the water will be 6 feet deep , and as it passes the water level will drop 2 feet. I have had the most luck in a incoming tide . In fact it is like a light switch . Plug fishing is really great too .I like the small two gang hook mirrorlures . The bottom is rocky , you have to have a very tough leader . Also , it is a long walk out , be sure to talk everything you need , cause it takes a while to walk back inshore . Also just north of town , where the ferry docks are , there is a great jetty , which is good for typical jetty fishig . The boats there are , or have been quite old , all wood , look like they were made in the 30’s . BUT this is slowly getting better. But their fishing gear on the boat is all very heavy duty . They are great guys , and will fish the way you want if you want to tease a fish and cast a fly at it . The marlin are only a few miles off shore . This is a paradise , research it , and make the most out of your trip . Hale Savannah
Nothing has a probability of one, except the likelyhood of me getting wind knots on a trip. Lou
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recall that the Law of Large Numbers allows one to derive that if an event has a non-zero probability, then if you conduct the experiment an infinite (or very large) number of times, then the event occurs with a probability of one. So this means that if I cast a fly line an infinite number of times, I’m bound to catch a fish. So, every time I go practice casting in the sound, then I’m just working off those non-occuring casts, no? {Aside, I did have a couple of bad days last summer where I actually caught a fish, so I must have a lot more non-productive castst to work off….} Happy New Year!!! john
I recall that the Law of Large Numbers allows one to derive that if an event has a non-zero probability, then if you conduct the experiment an infinite (or very large) number of times, then the event occurs with a probability of one. So this means that if I cast a fly line an infinite number of times, I’m bound to catch a fish. So, every time I go practice casting in the sound, then I’m just working off those non-occuring casts, no?
No. The trials are independent (assuming you aren’t learning anything as you go along). {Aside, I did have a couple of bad days last summer where I actually caught a fish, so I must have a lot more non-productive castst to work off….}
I have an fool-proof system for roulette you might be interested in. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
Logic and calculus don’t always go together. Combined with something as illogical as fishing it’s a complete waste of time. Try rotating the function Y= -1/X about the Y axix and compute both the volume and the area of the surface you have created. It has a finite volume and an infinite surface area. Which means…. You can get enough paint to fill the shape but you can’t get enough paint to paint it. I recall that the Law of Large
Happy New Year!!!
Good thought I’ll second that. BJC
I recall that the Law of Large Numbers allows one to derive that if an event has a non-zero probability, then if you conduct the experiment an infinite (or very large) number of times, then the event occurs with a probability of one. So this means that if I cast a fly line an infinite number of times, I’m bound to catch a fish. So, every time I go practice casting in the sound, then I’m just working off those non-occuring casts, no? {Aside, I did have a couple of bad days last summer where I actually caught a fish, so I must have a lot more non-productive castst to work off….} Happy New Year!!! john
I’m heading to see my brother for a few days and will be in the Boulder area. Can anyone recommend some areas/ types of flyfishing. My preference is drys but just want to enjoy some great scenery. Wild fish preferred! thanks much! Bruce
<snipped Bruce, I know Mike Medintz lives up in that area. I went up there a month ago and fished the Big Thompson with moderate success. I was using a black midge with a red bead head and got some good action. We started fishing just below the dam at Estes(?) Park in the early morning, then drove down about 4 miles and fished a really good stretch with a lot of big boulders breaking up the water. Nice area. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin
Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..
You may be right. I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray. A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power. I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir
I have a 590SP. I use a 6wt. Orvis Wonderline and it works great! Good luck, Forrest — Forrest http://www.FlyFishingREVIEW.com FlyFishingREVIEW.com Before you buy.
I am interested in your use of a DT on your SP590. Sounds like the two lines (the DT5 and tyhe WF7) cover a pretty wide range of situations with the same rod. Like fishing a bigassed river one day, and a little meadow crawler the next., with the same rod. Is that what you are after? Sage touts the "reserve power" bit on the SPs. Does the overlining kick it in? 
Ill have to try it. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right. I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray. A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power. I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir
Most good quality rods will handle several line sizes. The size recommended by the maker is usually that size that most people would find works well under most conditions…and allows the rod to properly load at normal fishing distances…and for the designated action of the rod to come into play. Most flyfishers have their own casting styles and fishing situations that are unique to them….and, as a consequence, tend to prefer certain actions on the rods with which they fish. So…it’s not unusual to find flyfishers that will find a different weight line working better for them on a selected rod when that line weight is different than the recommended weight. And, it is not unusual to find that fisherman disagree on the best line weight for a particular rod. Also factoring in the type of fishing and the distance of your normal casts, affects what line is "best" for a particular rod. Many flyfishers, myself included, tend to use several line weights on a rod….depending on the fishing situation at hand. However, on the Sage LL rods, I pretty much stick to the manufacturers suggested weights as they work best for me…and I don’t like a much slower rod than the LL Sage…so I don’t overline it. Now…the SPplus Sage is another matter…and I have overlined it by one and even two sizes at times….ditto on the RPLplus. I recall a disagreement that I once had with the Harry Wilson (from Scott Rods a number of years ago) regarding a ten weight Scott that I bought. I could put a thirteen weight on that rod and still feel that it was underlined. Harry and I argued about that rod for a long time. I ended up returning it. In retrospect, my casting style and the action that I wanted to bring out in the rod were vastly different than Harry’s. So…we were both right in the sense that we knew what worked best for us as individuals. Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right. I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray. A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power. I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir
Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone.
If this is intended to say that experienced casters don’t like to go up a line weight, then I’ll disagree. I’ve read that Joan Wulff says she routinely goes up a line weight. I fish a Winston IM6 4 weight with 6 weight line in situations where I have to make longer roll casts or cope with some wind. It handles the heavier line with aplomb. Yes, aplomb. I’ve never been in a situation where it couldn’t handle the amount of line I was trying to cast (which is probably a max of 60 feet). Rick
Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..
Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..
Hi All, I have seen this situation for many years. We all have a different casting strokes or styles. Some of us are high speed, tip casters and some, like this gentleman, have a slow stroke where he loads the rod way down into the butt. This is nothing new. I use a weight forward 5 floating line on that rod and it works fine for me. some of my fishing partners would use a #6 line. Not too many would use a #7 line. I think a #7 line would start to over load that rod at 50+ feet. Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone. PS: I might be wrong, but I think that the largest XPS is a #6????? Maybe it is a new GPX or maybe I am wrong?
As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught? How is it best fished? What sort of tackle is required? Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly? Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick
As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught?
Depends on your skills… How is it best fished?
A flyrod is the most effective way to do this. What sort of tackle is required?
Depending on the water, but I would take a 3wt and a 5 or 6 wt. Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly?
You are in the beautiful White Mountain area with nearly thousands of streams, lakes, and ponds in one of the most beautiful areas of New Hampshire. Go to the flyshop in North Conway and ask the guys there, they can tell you where to go best and what hatches you can expect at that time of the year (they usually list the most popular rivers with their hatches on a board outside the store and will be pleased to tell you more if you buy a couple flies etc out of courtesy, the guys are very nice- I think they also guide). Within 30 min drive you find several nice ponds in the Frankonia Notch area, it’s good to have a belly boat there and you can catch beautiful brookies. South of where you are located you can find the Bearcamp which is a beauty that holds Brookes, Brows, and Rainbows. If you are driving up from Boston make shure you stop at the Merrimack (look for salmon) and the Neufound river (can’t remember the exit, but it’s right from I93- salmon and hugh trout) and very close to the White Mountains. Otherwise, stop at the Ranger station, they can give you tips for remote hike-in ponds, there is a National Forest Map with all the ponds in it, including some fly fishing only ponds. Amonoosuc River (sp?) at Twin Mountains is also a pretty place that holds big rainbows. Don’t forget the C&R stretch of the Ellis River. If you have more questions, just mail back. Thomas Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick
– Thomas Urbig
Hello. Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface. They are really common, and I’m sure this is a really basic question… but I’d like to know. thanks. john
Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface. They are really common, and I’m sure this is a really basic question… but I’d like to know.
Perhaps Ephoron leukon. It must be too late for Potamanthus. Photographs of both are probably in Swisher/Richards or Caucci/Nastasi. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface. They are really common, and I’m sure this is a really basic question… but I’d like to know.
John, It is the Ephoron leukon. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle
The fish key on those bad boys don’t they ! White seems to be a major trigger from my experience… — TimW Halfordian Golfer UNCLEJAMVT wrote in article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface. They are really common, and I’m sure this is a really basic question… but I’d like to know. John, It is the Ephoron leukon. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface. They are really common, and I’m sure this is a really basic question… but I’d like to know. John, It is the Ephoron leukon. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle
Hey there, Jim. My son and I have been fishing the Winooski in the riffles above the tressle the last few days and when these white flies are out the place comes alive with "jumping" fish. We can dap, plunk cast, drag free float over these fish without a look. How do you sucessfully fish this "event"? BHB — Remove "send_no_spam_" from address for e-mail response. Barkley Bull =
Hello. Can anyone provide the genus/species of a mayfly currently hatching here in Vermont. The fly is white, emerges at dusk in large groups, essentially immediately turns into a spinner and kind of "dances" an inch or so above the surface.
Dear John: Ephron Leukon: i.e. White Fly. They were the 1st mayfly hatch documented in "the Colonies" by ole’ Tom J. himself Jason Beary
Hey there, Jim. My son and I have been fishing the Winooski in the riffles above the tressle the last few days and when these white flies are out the place comes alive with "jumping" fish. We can dap, plunk cast, drag free float over these fish without a look. How do you sucessfully fish this "event"?
I don’t think the whitefly event is the only event going on. The fish are definitely jumping up for the skittering egg layers, but there is also some emerger feeding for sure. I don’t know it’s the same species or not. The "dancing" egg-layer is definitely hard to imitate, but I’ve had some success with a White Wulff size 12 and 14. In the riffles, the floats are pretty short anyway (before you get drag), so I guess it is kind of a dap and plunk. I have had no success imitating the emerger event however. Various wet flies have been working, but not during what seems to be a highly selective evening "event". For e-mail responses, remove the "Spam_Stopper_" from my return address before sending.
Hey there, Jim. My son and I have been fishing the Winooski in the riffles above the tressle the last few days and when these white flies are out the place comes alive with "jumping" fish. We can dap, plunk cast, drag free float over these fish without a look. How do you sucessfully fish this "event"?
White soft hackle….let swing and line tighten in the riffle….slowly(and I mean slowly) raise and lower the rod tip as if the emerger is trying to break the film, fails and tumbles back down. Good luck. Interested to know how you do. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle
Is that YOU there?? I’ve been down lower in the pools (and up higher by the rocks..). Nice to cyberly meet you. I can get a fish or 2 to take on a white dry (a little smaller than natural), but only at the VERY beginning of the hatch. Later a spinner (white, same size) fished dry with a twitch or two can get a take. BUT, I also think the main event is subsurface. I’m going to try chucking a nymph (tied with a lighter-colored fluffier wing case) upstream from the hatch, letting it go dead drift into the rises (leaps!) and then bring it to the surface right in front of the fish. john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey there, Jim. My son and I have been fishing the Winooski in the riffles above the tressle the last few days and when these white flies are out the place comes alive with "jumping" fish. We can dap, plunk cast, drag free float over these fish without a look. How do you sucessfully fish this "event"? I don’t think the whitefly event is the only event going on. The fish are definitely jumping up for the skittering egg layers, but there is also some emerger feeding for sure. I don’t know it’s the same species or not. The "dancing" egg-layer is definitely hard to imitate, but I’ve had some success with a White Wulff size 12 and 14. In the riffles, the floats are pretty short anyway (before you get drag), so I guess it is kind of a dap and plunk. I have had no success imitating the emerger event however. Various wet flies have been working, but not during what seems to be a highly selective evening "event".
SNIP . How do you sucessfully fish this "event"? White soft hackle….let swing and line tighten in the riffle….slowly(and I mean slowly) raise and lower the rod tip as if the emerger is trying to break the film, fails and tumbles back down. Good luck. Interested to know how you do.
I think this is good advice. Ive been near the trestle several days this last week and these fish are either jumping clear and taking spinners 2-3" above the surface (exciting to watch) OR are working benaeth the surface. Dun or spinner floating are simply refused (at least in my experience). THis limits me, at least, to an emerger. BUT, If anyone knows how to keep a spinner 2" above the surface and never land it, Id like to take lessons!! john
these fish are either jumping clear and taking spinners 2-3" above the surface (exciting to watch) OR are working benaeth the surface. Dun or spinner floating are simply refused (at least in my experience). THis limits me, at least, to an emerger. BUT, If anyone knows how to keep a spinner 2" above the surface and never land it, Id like to take lessons!!
Simple! Capture a half-dozen or so of the duns, and leash them to your fly using strands of hair. Chuck the whole rig out there and PRESTO!…your fly lifts off the surface. Tiny choke collars are helpful in case your team spooks. Try not to lose too many flies, or you’ll soon be bald. If you’re already bald, bring a hairy friend along. Don’t bring your S.O. or children, unless you think they’d look good bald. Best not attempted among bats, martins, swallows, etc. Best not attempted. *NOTE TO THE HUMOR-IMPARED, WHICH MAY INCLUDE ME* Sorry for the joke, but I couldn’t resist. I know there are folks out there trying to crack this hatch, and it can be a tough one, like many fall (i.e., low-flow) hatches. I don’t think it helps that the bright white naturals are *really* visible to the fish, making an imitation stand apart all the more. Try fishing faster water if possible. I used to fish this hatch on West Canada Creek near Herkimer NY, (featured in one of those gawd-damn magazines recently) and had *some* luck using a pure white parachute, although I did have my share of refusals. Of course, the fish I caught could have been hopped up on goofballs and not known any better;-) Dave
Cast into a bush ? take david copperfield along with you ? helium filled wing-pads ? telekenesis ? Inquiring minds want to know !!! — TimW Halfordian Golfer FarAndFine wrote in article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ever hear of the "blow fly technique"? Read Borgers ‘Presentation’ and you’ll learn how to kee a fly two feet above the water without ever landing it. No kidding.
Ever hear of the "blow fly technique"? Read Borgers ‘Presentation’ and you’ll learn how to kee a fly two feet above the water without ever landing it. No kidding.
Dave Best not attempted among bats, martins, swallows, etc. I almost caught a swallow once during a thick hatch of large Light Cahills. My #12 was floating on a placid stretch, just getting to the point where a brown was rising, when a swallow swooped out of nowhere, picked it off the water, carried it about 10 feet downstream (past where the trout was, BTW), and dropped it. I still wonder what it would have been like had that swallow hooked itself. =8-O Cheers, — Dave Guertin
Dave Best not attempted among bats, martins, swallows, etc. I almost caught a swallow once during a thick hatch of large Light Cahills. My #12 was floating on a placid stretch, just getting to the point where a brown was rising, when a swallow swooped out of nowhere, picked it off the water, carried it about 10 feet downstream (past where the trout was, BTW), and dropped it. I still wonder what it would have been like had that swallow hooked itself. =8-O Cheers,
We were in the Pecos last weekend, my son was fishing the cowels pond at dusk. He had two "creatures" flying around him and following his casts. One finally caught the fly on the backstroke and he slammed it into the pond. He said he caught a bird but I got to looking at them fly around, short bodies, no tail. I told him thats not a bird, that’s a bat! "Whoa! I caught a Bat!" he said "That’s sweet!" BTW he was using a #12 elk hair caddis, bat bait!
I caught a swallow on a #12 elk hair caddis near the Lyons bridge on the Madison about five years ago…. in the presence of a conservation officer for Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks.
The Ephoron hatch is impressive. I fished it several times this year with good success. If you watch the duns emerge, you should notice that they struggle to get our of their shuck, do a little tumble, and than are in the air. The hatch starts slow, with flies flying close to the water surface. Next you see the trout trying to take the fly in mid-air. I have tried a almost presentation; make a few false casts low over the area you have seen a fish, than with your final cast stop the fly about 2 feet above the water and let it float to the surface. The take is sometimes in the air and sometimes as the fly touches the water, or sometimes nothing—— them just as they get to the surface or as they struggle to get out of their shuck. The pattern that has worked the best for me and my fishing buddy JM, is the Usual – size #14. Also, try a emerger with a trailing shuck of Zelon, white dubbed body, and a short wing/thich thorax, the wing can be snowshoe rabbit or Zelon. JWTrout
Will be in Hilton Head, SC next week to give a couple of talks. Have some free time. Any saltwater or brackish water FF to be had in the area? Guides or tackle shops? Thanks. J. Rice
david murray in beaufort, south carolina is the best guide i have ever fished with his # is 803-525-6820 tell him monty in nashville sent you, he’s a great guy and will put you on redfish. Monty Powell
david murray in beaufort, south carolina is the best guide i have ever fished with his # is 803-525-6820 tell him monty in nashville sent you, he’s a great guy and will put you on redfish. Monty Powell
I agree!! Steve Rosenblum Ann Arbor
Enjoy your reports. Keep them up. April 4 particularly important: I was scheduled to fish out of Miami but had to cancel because I couldn’t get down there; rescheduled to June. Interested in June 26, 27, or 29 with you; are those dates open? If so, what’s the rate, what’s the likely target, and can my buddy spin fish? Dave Motes Oakton, Virginia
Enjoy your reports. Keep them up. April 4 particularly important: I was scheduled to fish out of Miami but had to cancel because I couldn’t get down there; rescheduled to June. Interested in June 26, 27, or 29 with you; are those dates open? If so, what’s the rate, what’s the likely target, and can my buddy spin fish? Dave Motes Oakton, Virginia
Dave, I don’t have any time open in the foreseeable future. E-mail me at Thanks. Marshall
Today promised to be a great day but turned out to be so-so because of the lack of fish. We fished west of Key West on the oceanside flats during the morning and had four or five good shots at feeding permit that were mudding and tailing. It was a good thing they were so active because the water was very silted up. In fact a couple of fish never seemed to see the fly even though it was put right in front of them. We did get three fish to tail on the fly but did not hook any of them. Because of the dirty water I went to the gulfside around midday but there was way too much water up on the flats there. Between noon and 2 PM we saw one fish. Fitz C. hooked and lost a cobia following a ray. Then we lost our visibility to high cloud cover. We decided to go look for tarpon because the wind dropped, but couldn’t find any. Finally, we cast to some "floater" permit that were mooning and nymphing in a channel. We got some follows but no takers. Marshall Cutchin
Peterson)" says: anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp
Comparaduns.
Looking for information on the upper Kings River, above Pine Flat dam. I read an earlier posting on the area around Courtright Res., and would love some specifics on that area, as I live very close. What about the Bear Creek Diversion and above? Any one have any comments and or experiences up in those parts? Thanks in advance. Sean
Hi Sean: Bear Creek above the dam to Twin Falls (especially the 100 yards or so just below the falls) is fairly good for brook trout from late May to early July. But be prepared for mosquitos from late June on. It’s a real nice day trip. The only fishing I’ve done on the Kings River is on the South Fork in Paradise Valley (7 miles in from Cedar Grove Road end). Really nice just before Memorial Day when the black ants start flying. It’s my Spring ritual to work out the kinks. Mark
The upper Kings river used to be an awsome fishery. Large rainbows. I havent fished it since 1986 but when I did I caught four large bows on a stonefly nymph. They ranged from 20-24 inches and were thick bodied. I don’t know if the drought affected the fishery or not. Of course this time of the year the enormous runoff makes fishing difficult at best and you have to compete with the river rafters. You should also be advised to keep a sharp eye on your step the rattlers are everywhere and they are gigantic. I have even seen them swimming in the river. My advise to you is to take the dirt road at the second bridge, take the road on the side of the river that you are on before you cross the bridge otherwise you will encounter to much rafter traffic enroute to or coming from Garnet Dike area which is a favorite raft launching spot. Good luck. Regarding bear diversion ; Good area small trout but plentifull, mostly brookies. I know some fantastic fishing areas in the Kaiser wilderness area that I dont necessarily want to share with the world but if you will E-mail me personally I will share them privately because you are a FSU Bulldog. What do you think about the Shark getting hired? You should also be aware that Bear CCreek is out at least till Memorial day because of the snow. My sources with SCE say that Kaiser Pass probebly
i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact we live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous — gp
anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp
what is going on with this group i sent 4 postings and they have all gone with the rest of them is there some time limit on the postingsand is it possible to read old back posting thanks — gp
: i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact we : live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any : pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, : norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well : as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an : abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. : the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous : — : gp —It sounds like you can tie just about any nymph there is. For dries you definately want some hackle (or duck quills for no hackle dries). jamie
Tie the Rhycophilia Caddis pupa (sp?). It’ just a fur dubbed body. Add some long hair to the head as legs. All you need are some 200R or 205BL hooks. Substitute hair for tail, wingcase and legs in most patterns and you’ll be able to tie most nymphs. Invent your own patterns! Gold Ribbed Mink Stole… –jim
i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact we live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous — gp
I got your messages. Drop a not on my email directly. Lenny Bloksberg . .
anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp
Zonkers, Bunny leaches, Kiwi Mudlers, These use patches of tanned hide with the hair on. They are the easiest way I know of to use up lots of tanned hides with fur on. Otherwise, TRADE! I’m sure lots of folks would be happy to trade something they have in excess for your fur, myself included. . Lenny Bloksberg . .
GP– sounds like a great find. You might try a fly called the Usual, It’s kind of a Comparadun/emerger cross. It uses guard and underfur tied up for a wing and underfur for dubbing. It also has guard hair for a tail. You might want to consider getting yourself a dry fly neck, you have some great dubbing for it (esp. the beaver otter and mukrat) if they haven’t been processed to much. Otherwise any of your furs would work for different nymph patterns.
Another thing he might consider doing is going into a flyfishing shop and see if they are interested in trading some of the fur for some hackle necks. Not all flyfishing shops will accept furs but some will. Heck, he might be able to find some people here that would be willing to do some trades. Some might even be willing to purchase some of the fur from you outright and then he could use the money to buy some hackle necks. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA Viacom Cable Division
Tie the Rhycophilia Caddis pupa (sp?). It’ just a fur dubbed body. Add some long hair to the head as legs. All you need are some 200R or 205BL hooks. Substitute hair for tail, wingcase and legs in most patterns and you’ll be able to tie most nymphs. Invent your own patterns! Gold Ribbed Mink Stole…
So I’m not the only one that has looked at a woman wearing a fur and thought "look at all that fly tying material". — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA Viacom Cable Division
Looking for information on the upper Kings River, above Pine Flat dam. I read an earlier posting on the area around Courtright Res., and would love some specifics on that area, as I live very close. What about the Bear Creek Diversion and above? Any one have any comments and or experiences up in those parts? Thanks in advance. Sean