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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

I’d love to get over there, but at this time I can’t make any plan’s. I’ll let you know closer to the time if I’m going to make it. Darin

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I’m going.  Don’t know the detail just yet.   Is that a three day weekend? If so we may go and see how the rich and famous in Bellevue live.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped Actually it was the combination square that got ‘em. Guess it looked kinda ominous on the baggage checker screen. That plus the satchel clanked pretty good when I set it down on the belt. Hugh Well, yes. One of those does look a lot like a large caliber automatic assault machine pistol – with an adjustable range of 0 to 1200 yards – and you could easily be thrown out of school if you held it the wrong way in 9th grade shop class. — bill Theory don’t mean squat if it don’t work.

You mean today. When I went to high school, we were still in the shoot um up phase from WW2 and the Korean War. Hugh

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Change the brake fluid. Don in NH

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Curt: In the present world of airport paranoia, a bag full of metal things may present a real problem. You might be better off shipping a FedEx box of stuff to yourself at the RV seller’s address. Should be quite an adventure – good luck Frank Damp Anacortes, WA

Kinda reminds me of the time I was working on the house we bought in Allen Park Michigan. I needed a bunch of tools from home and packed them in a satchel, must have weighed 30 pounds. Got to the airport, tried to go through the metal detector (this was back in ‘78) and they said "no way". Had to run back and check the satchel in. Don’t know why they got concerned, there were just some wrenches, slip joint pliers, combination square, wood chisels, hacksaw, 24" aluminum level shortened to 18" and some sundry items <grin. Hugh

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Curt: In the present world of airport paranoia, a bag full of metal things may present a real problem. You might be better off shipping a FedEx box of stuff to yourself at the RV seller’s address. Should be quite an adventure – good luck Frank Damp Anacortes, WA Kinda reminds me of the time I was working on the house we bought in Allen Park Michigan. I needed a bunch of tools from home and packed them in a satchel, must have weighed 30 pounds. Got to the airport, tried to go through the metal detector (this was back in ‘78) and they said "no way". Had to run back and check the satchel in. Don’t know why they got concerned, there were just some wrenches, slip joint pliers, combination square, wood chisels, hacksaw, 24" aluminum level shortened to 18" and some sundry items <grin. Hugh It was that evil sawed-off level that did it. You should have left it at 24" – they hadn’t yet started harping on long range sniper levels back in 78. — bill Theory don’t mean squat if it don’t work.

Actually it was the combination square that got ‘em. Guess it looked kinda ominous on the baggage checker screen. That plus the satchel clanked pretty good when I set it down on the belt. Hugh

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Curt: In the present world of airport paranoia, a bag full of metal things may present a real problem. You might be better off shipping a FedEx box of stuff to yourself at the RV seller’s address. Should be quite an adventure – good luck Frank Damp Anacortes, WA

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<< So, any pointers would be helpfull.   This may be obvious, but don’t bring anything remotely flamable.  No flares, WD40 or even tools smelling of the stuff.  The airport inspectors have sensitive, if stupid sniffers. They do allow credit cards wiith high limits. Tom

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a couple of months searching I finally located a motorhome I’m comfortable buying, so the trip is set; fly from Anchorage to Iowa on the 20th of July, pick up the rig, go see Mom in Minnesota for a couple days, then haul out to Carson City Nevada to pick up a buddy, then back to Alaska.  I plan on using my checked baggage to bring along some tools, jumper cables, tape, wire…things like that (I’d rather NOT check a bag, but don’t see a carry-n going through with these things in it).  The rig is an 89 with 56k on it, I don’t expect any problems, but figure it won’t hurt to have some items along.  I plan to stop by a NAPA and pick up some belts, hoses, plugs and what-not, figure if I don’t use them, I can probably return them to my local NAPA (I’ll check on that before I leave).  Anyone have any suggestions on what else to have along?  I’ll have my cell phone with me, but don’t know that it’ll do anything for me in Canada.  If NAPA ok’s the return of the parts, I’ll probably grab an alternator and a water pump too. This trip is pretty much going to be a death march to get the rig home, I don’t plan on a whole lot of sight-seeing, or pleasure taking, but if anyone has info on a "must see" along the way I’d love to hear it.  Campgrounds to avoid would be another bonus.  For the most part though, we plan to split the driving, and not spend alot of idle time, as we are trying to meet friends in Seward for a week of fishing.  Once we get there we’ll wind down from the trip.  So, any pointers would be helpfull.  BTW, I have a milepost, so I got taht covered.  Thanks – Curt Quite an adventure.   Hoses and belts are a good idea, but I’d be more worried about tires and brakes.  They’re what’ll get you killed.  Have the radiator checked and flushed.  And you can leave the jumper cables and tools at home, they’re cheap down here.  You can buy a whole set of tools for fifty bucks.  Bring lots of money instead.  You may need it somewhere around Liard Springs. Two words.  Duct Tape. Talk about a leap of faith.  Whew. Bob

Good advice, the tires are nearly new, but I had thought about brakes…a slight change in plans has me going to Idaho instead of NV, so I don’t have to do any huge mountain slopes…I was considering just changing all the pads and bleeding the system before I started back. Duct tape is definately on the list though.  Yeah, it is a huge leap of faith, I’ve talked to the guy wqho owns it, and he assures me I’ll be happy with it…likely story I’m sure, but for now I’ll play the faith in human nature role, and hope it works out, if not, I guess I’ll fly back home and start looking again.  Thanks for the advice, like I said, I’d rather fly down with just a carry on and no checked bags, we’ll see how it works out.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -After a couple of months searching I finally located a motorhome I’m comfortable buying, so the trip is set; fly from Anchorage to Iowa on the 20th of July, pick up the rig, go see Mom in Minnesota for a couple days, then haul out to Carson City Nevada to pick up a buddy, then back to Alaska.   I plan on using my checked baggage to bring along some tools, jumper cables, tape, wire…things like that (I’d rather NOT check a bag, but don’t see a carry-n going through with these things in it).  The rig is an 89 with 56k on it, I don’t expect any problems, but figure it won’t hurt to have some items along.  I plan to stop by a NAPA and pick up some belts, hoses, plugs and what-not, figure if I don’t use them, I can probably return them to my local NAPA (I’ll check on that before I leave).  Anyone have any suggestions on what else to have along?  I’ll have my cell phone with me, but don’t know that it’ll do anything for me in Canada.  If NAPA ok’s the return of the parts, I’ll probably grab an alternator and a water pump too.  This trip is pretty much going to be a death march to get the rig home, I don’t plan on a whole lot of sight-seeing, or pleasure taking, but if anyone has info on a "must see" along the way I’d love to hear it.  Campgrounds to avoid would be another bonus.  For the most part though, we plan to split the driving, and not spend alot of idle time, as we are trying to meet friends in Seward for a week of fishing.  Once we get there we’ll wind down from the trip.   So, any pointers would be helpfull.  BTW, I have a milepost, so I got taht covered.  Thanks – Curt

Quite an adventure.   Hoses and belts are a good idea, but I’d be more worried about tires and brakes.  They’re what’ll get you killed.  Have the radiator checked and flushed.  And you can leave the jumper cables and tools at home, they’re cheap down here.  You can buy a whole set of tools for fifty bucks.  Bring lots of money instead.  You may need it somewhere around Liard Springs. Two words.  Duct Tape. Talk about a leap of faith.  Whew. Bob

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After a couple of months searching I finally located a motorhome I’m comfortable buying, so the trip is set; fly from Anchorage to Iowa on the 20th of July, pick up the rig, go see Mom in Minnesota for a couple days, then haul out to Carson City Nevada to pick up a buddy, then back to Alaska.    I plan on using my checked baggage to bring along some tools, jumper cables, tape, wire…things like that (I’d rather NOT check a bag, but don’t see a carry-n going through with these things in it).  The rig is an 89 with 56k on it, I don’t expect any problems, but figure it won’t hurt to have some items along.  I plan to stop by a NAPA and pick up some belts, hoses, plugs and what-not, figure if I don’t use them, I can probably return them to my local NAPA (I’ll check on that before I leave).  Anyone have any suggestions on what else to have along?  I’ll have my cell phone with me, but don’t know that it’ll do anything for me in Canada.  If NAPA ok’s the return of the parts, I’ll probably grab an alternator and a water pump too.   This trip is pretty much going to be a death march to get the rig home, I don’t plan on a whole lot of sight-seeing, or pleasure taking, but if anyone has info on a "must see" along the way I’d love to hear it.  Campgrounds to avoid would be another bonus.  For the most part though, we plan to split the driving, and not spend alot of idle time, as we are trying to meet friends in Seward for a week of fishing.  Once we get there we’ll wind down from the trip.    So, any pointers would be helpfull.  BTW, I have a milepost, so I got taht covered.  Thanks – Curt

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I am a recent arrival to the Central Valley- the Elk Grove area of Sacramento to be exact- and I’m looking for some fishing area tips. I did go out last night to the Sac River just south of the Freeport Bridge and caught cats with my neighbors, but catfishing is not my favorite pasttime. I did however learn several new tackle tips ; Magic String, Sliders" etc..  While I can tolerate bait fishing and always catch fishing using bait, it is not my favorite fishing. My former pursuits were the smallmouth bass of eastern NY rivers (Hoosick, Hudson, Mohawk) on spin and fly tackle so that may give you an idea of the kind of fishing I’m used to. I am perfectly happy fishing for bluegill  with a light fly rod and I have thoroughly enjoyed the occasional carp I’ve tied into. I know the area here has a wealth of fishing I’m just not sure where it is! I would like to start with freshwater sites for now. I do have a canoe so any smallcraft waters  directions would also be appreciated. Also any local publications I should be reading will be greatly appreciated. Also which stamps are worth the purchase on a CA fishing license? Thanks for being computer literate anglers! Phil

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Get the Fish Sniffer, publisher is in Elk Grove.  Lots of fishing.  The pits next to I-5 hold bass, you can fish from shore, or canoe.  Get Tom Stienstra’s book, Fishing California, lists every bit of fishable water in the state.  The Stanislaus river is good, and canoe friendly.  Go up to Verona and shad may still be there, can fish fron the sandbar in the Feather.  Float the Sac above Colusa with the canoe.  Smallies, shad, salmon, LMB. Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am a recent arrival to the Central Valley- the Elk Grove area of Sacramento to be exact- and I’m looking for some fishing area tips. I did go out last night to the Sac River just south of the Freeport Bridge and caught cats with my neighbors, but catfishing is not my favorite pasttime. I did however learn several new tackle tips ; Magic String, Sliders" etc..  While I can tolerate bait fishing and always catch fishing using bait, it is not my favorite fishing. My former pursuits were the smallmouth bass of eastern NY rivers (Hoosick, Hudson, Mohawk) on spin and fly tackle so that may give you an idea of the kind of fishing I’m used to. I am perfectly happy fishing for bluegill  with a light fly rod and I have thoroughly enjoyed the occasional carp I’ve tied into. I know the area here has a wealth of fishing I’m just not sure where it is! I would like to start with freshwater sites for now. I do have a canoe so any smallcraft waters  directions would also be appreciated. Also any local publications I should be reading will be greatly appreciated. Also which stamps are worth the purchase on a CA fishing license? Thanks for being computer literate anglers! Phil

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I find that after about six dozen fish that they chew about half the head off the fly. I would like it to be durable enough to last for a full morning’s fishing.

That’s easy, go up to Dodge City and fish with Wayne Knight – the fly will last a year or more<g. — Charlie…

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Willi wonders: Does any one here fish these patterns? I have tied a handful up, primarily the green(summer season) and orange(later evening) colors to see if they had special attractive characteristics for the stated periods of use. I can’t say that I fished them with top confidence, as I share your suspicion of general color theories. Anyway, they caught some fish, but didn’t knock my socks off.                               Tom Littleton

The waters he fished them on are pretty large turbulent waters. I don’t know what the exact area is like where he tested them but it is a large river. There areas of my local waters where I was going to try them are the deeper runs and the pocket water stretches. I’ll try to fish them with SOME confidence. Last fall I was in central/western Wyoming and had a couple days to fish. I stopped in a shop for some information. Since it was fall, the shop owner hadn’t had much business and seemed glad to have someone to talk to. We talked about quite a few things and he gave me some information that, I felt he wouldn’t normally give. It being fall in the Rockies, hatches were limited to sporadic caddis and BWO’s in about a size 20. The olives, he said, brought up the good fish. I asked him what he used and he showed me a large stimulator type fly that was very bright and flashy. The fly was tied on a number 14 stimulator hook which translated into a fly about the size of a normal size 10. I looked at him with some skepticism but bought a couple and went out. The section of river he sent me to carried alot of water even during the low flows typical in the Fall. The area was a series of deep strong runs, filled with large boulders.  I caught a few fish in the morning, then about 11 o’clock the Olives started popping up. I saw occasional rises and switched to a typical Olive imitation tied in a size eighteen. I caught a couple of smaller Browns on the current edges and continued to see an occasional surface feeding trout. The fish that were rising seemed to be smaller fish. I switched over to the fly that the shop owner recommended and I caught a number of sizable fish that came up off the bottom is the heavy current. My guess is that the better trout were feeding on the active and emerging nymphs but weren’t willing to come to the surface through the strong current for such a small fly. The larger attractor pattern, made the trip worthwhile. This isn’t a perfect example of his approach but it is the type of situation where a fly having certain exaggerated visual cues might work well. Willi

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Willi wonders: Does any one here fish these patterns?

I have tied a handful up, primarily the green(summer season) and orange(later evening) colors to see if they had special attractive characteristics for the stated periods of use. I can’t say that I fished them with top confidence, as I share your suspicion of general color theories. Anyway, they caught some fish, but didn’t knock my socks off.                               Tom Littleton

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with a series of flies designed by Gary LaFontaine that he calls his Double Wing series.

I have not experimented with the Double Wing series, but I have been using the Airheadfor several years now with great success, but unlike Gary, do not find it very durable. When I use it on the bedding bluegills I find that after about six dozen fish that they chew about half the head off the fly. I would like it to be durable enough to last for a full morning’s fishing. Big Dale

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Willi, Did you every get the email I sent to you (aka "Rusty Hook")?  Anyway, if you didn’t, here it is again: I’ll probably head up to the Yellowstone area for my vacation, preferably during the clave, but it won’t be due to poor fishing conditions around here. I’ll just be ready for something different by August.

Come on by Stanley this summer, Willi, and we’ll fish for wild cutthroats in places so beautiful they’ll make you eyes bleed. I’ll warn you, though. You’ll have to exert yourself to get there. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Each year I come up with a few things that I’m interested in checking out streamside. This year, I’m looking to get a feel for streamer fishing, fishing a "cast" of wets and I’m thinking about experimenting with a series of flies designed by Gary LaFontaine that he calls his Double Wing series. Although I’m not much of a believer of a "right" fly or the importance of color overall, this series of flies is based on studies done by him using underwater divers to record the reactions of trout to certain colors and aspects of flies. The Double Wing series was a result of this study in terms of the "ideal" attractor pattern. He recommends certain color combinations for different light situations. Although Brooks, if I remember right, did some underwater observations, as far as I know, LaFontaine was the only person to study, from an underwater prospective and in a systematic manner, the reactions of trout to a number of variables of a fly’s construction. Does any one here fish these patterns? Any comments? Willi

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Hell I forgot this place, try it first: Charleston Angler  843-571-3899) jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cap’t Champ Smith, can be booked through Buck n Bass Mount Pleasant SC. He will provide all the gear, be prepared to be humbled. jim Greeting Friends, I will be tagging along with my wife for a business trip to Charleston, South Carolina on November 12th and would like to try a guided trip in Saltwater (the flats hopefully).  I have never fished the Salt with a Fly rod and am jazzed about the possibilities.  Unfortunately with no experience I am not sure how to start looking for a quality guide, I have searched the net and found several but I am not sure of the correct questions to help me decide who might be the best. I also do not have Saltwater Fly equipment and will have to rely on decent equipment being supplied by the Captain. If anybody has had any experience with fishing SC this time of year and could recommend a good guide I would be very grateful.  Also any advice as to what fish are still active for fly fishing this time of year and necessary equipment and flies that I should start tying would be much appreciated. You gentlemen have always been instrumental in my fly fishing education for which I will be forever thankful. Sincerely, Tony Norton

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I was down there (Kiawah) this past June, tried doing saltwater for the first time by myself. Got skunked…next time I will get Dave Crosby at Charleston Angler. Went by the shop,,,real nice folks. Tim, not giving up on sw yet, Long – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell I forgot this place, try it first: Charleston Angler 843-571-3899) jim Cap’t Champ Smith, can be booked through Buck n Bass Mount Pleasant SC. He will provide all the gear, be prepared to be humbled. jim Greeting Friends, I will be tagging along with my wife for a business trip to Charleston, South Carolina on November 12th and would like to try a guided trip in Saltwater (the flats hopefully).  I have never fished the Salt with a Fly rod and am jazzed about the possibilities.  Unfortunately with no experience I am not sure how to start looking for a quality guide, I have searched the net and found several but I am not sure of the correct questions to help me decide who might be the best. I also do not have Saltwater Fly equipment and will have to rely on decent equipment being supplied by the Captain. If anybody has had any experience with fishing SC this time of year and could recommend a good guide I would be very grateful.  Also any advice as to what fish are still active for fly fishing this time of year and necessary equipment and flies that I should start tying would be much appreciated. You gentlemen have always been instrumental in my fly fishing education for which I will be forever thankful. Sincerely, Tony Norton

Before you buy.

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Greeting Friends, I will be tagging along with my wife for a business trip to Charleston, South Carolina on November 12th and would like to try a guided trip in Saltwater (the flats hopefully).  I have never fished the Salt with a Fly rod and am jazzed about the possibilities.  Unfortunately with no experience I am not sure how to start looking for a quality guide, I have searched the net and found several but I am not sure of the correct questions to help me decide who might be the best. I also do not have Saltwater Fly equipment and will have to rely on decent equipment being supplied by the Captain. If anybody has had any experience with fishing SC this time of year and could recommend a good guide I would be very grateful.  Also any advice as to what fish are still active for fly fishing this time of year and necessary equipment and flies that I should start tying would be much appreciated. You gentlemen have always been instrumental in my fly fishing education for which I will be forever thankful. Sincerely, Tony Norton

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Hey Tony check out NGTO they have a lot of members who fish all over I bet they will be able to help you out . Gray Ghost http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ngto/ Check the message board and register and ask your questions all fisherman welcome.

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Cap’t Champ Smith, can be booked through Buck n Bass Mount Pleasant SC. He will provide all the gear, be prepared to be humbled. jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greeting Friends, I will be tagging along with my wife for a business trip to Charleston, South Carolina on November 12th and would like to try a guided trip in Saltwater (the flats hopefully).  I have never fished the Salt with a Fly rod and am jazzed about the possibilities.  Unfortunately with no experience I am not sure how to start looking for a quality guide, I have searched the net and found several but I am not sure of the correct questions to help me decide who might be the best. I also do not have Saltwater Fly equipment and will have to rely on decent equipment being supplied by the Captain. If anybody has had any experience with fishing SC this time of year and could recommend a good guide I would be very grateful.  Also any advice as to what fish are still active for fly fishing this time of year and necessary equipment and flies that I should start tying would be much appreciated. You gentlemen have always been instrumental in my fly fishing education for which I will be forever thankful. Sincerely, Tony Norton

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Good advice Jon; take it. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think you misspelt "opinion". In any case, some things are better kept to oneself. JonCook.

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Frank, We’re just about 10 miles from the Rappahannock near Fredericksburg.  I live on the PO River.  Bluegills so big behind my house your pontoon boat would go for a sleigh ride!  Bring a 7 wt.!  Looks like we might have to postpone the Brookie trip Dianna and I had planned for tomorrow.  She bought me a strange here.  I bought her a fishing outfit and she bought me yard work tools.   hmmmmm…… I can’t quite put my finger on it but soething seems amiss. Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – lotsa snippage here of a great time had by Wayne…… Wayne, congrats on winning MC’s rod, I’m sure you’ll put it to good use. Of course you realize now that Dianna is outfitted and had a taste of ff’ing, your outfit is not complete…send me your snail mail addy and I’ll send you a matched set of a knife and fork to help you eat all that crow and humble pie  :-) …. before long Dianna will be outfishing you (just ask Rich Warren aka Debbies fishin’ pardner)  Still and all you’re a lucky man to have a wife interested in your favorite sport.  Whereabouts do you live in VA?  I get down to the eastern part fairly often (Roanoke/Lynchburg area) and haunt the Maury and James River for smallies. Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED

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I’ll just hazard a guess here….she has your number!  :-) Frank Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank, We’re just about 10 miles from the Rappahannock near Fredericksburg.  I live on the PO River.  Bluegills so big behind my house your pontoon boat would go for a sleigh ride!  Bring a 7 wt.!  Looks like we might have to postpone the Brookie trip Dianna and I had planned for tomorrow.  She bought me a strange here.  I bought her a fishing outfit and she bought me yard work tools.   hmmmmm…… I can’t quite put my finger on it but soething seems amiss. Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! lotsa snippage here of a great time had by Wayne…… Wayne, congrats on winning MC’s rod, I’m sure you’ll put it to good use. Of course you realize now that Dianna is outfitted and had a taste of ff’ing, your outfit is not complete…send me your snail mail addy and I’ll send you a matched set of a knife and fork to help you eat all that crow and humble pie  :-) …. before long Dianna will be outfishing you (just ask Rich Warren aka Debbies fishin’ pardner)  Still and all you’re a lucky man to have a wife interested in your favorite sport.  Whereabouts do you live in VA?  I get down to the eastern part fairly often (Roanoke/Lynchburg area) and haunt the Maury and James River for smallies. Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED

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What a trip!  The past 6 days go to, surviving at, and returning from…….THE CLAVE!!!!.

Thanks for your report Wayne. I look forward to other reports. It’s lonely this side of the Pond:-) — Bill http://www.graigroad.demon.co.uk

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Well, The Famous Grouse is almost gone ( I left my MaCallan at Clave Central).  Thanks for listening and sharing. — Wayne (who came away …..Changed!) To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

um…wayne, you didn’t think those polyleaders would be free, did ya?  i am in possession of your autographed bottle of mac… the benefit of being the last guy to leave. jeff

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Fair trade Jeff!  I was just hopeing it went to a good home!  I’ll share my Mac with you anytime. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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strange here.  I bought her a fishing outfit and she bought me yard work tools.   hmmmmm…… I can’t quite put my finger on it but soething seems amiss.

Wayne:I feel your pain…I don’t think we were supposed to understand women, but I don’t know about those farm implements. I thought chainsaws were only useful for horror flicks about some fellow Texans. Thanks for the boots. I will need about 10 days to tie some good flies for the trade. I need to tie more now that there are two fly fishing persons in your family. Since stripers are available at your lake I will include some or Richard Hart’s Ghost Minnows which have been very useful on Lake Whitney. Please send me your snail mail address sometime in the next 10 days or so. It sure was good to meet you and your lovely wife Diana at the clave. I thought she got the best prize of all in the raffle in the Spam Shirt. We need to have more raffle prizes like that next year. Big Dale

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What a trip!  The past 6 days go to, surviving at, and returning from…….THE CLAVE!!!!.  For all those of you who asked, a Clave is fishing camp for reprobates and some nice ladies.  Dianna and I arrived Friday after a pleasant  7 hour trip down from Virginia.  Dinner Friday night with Mark (Guyznflys), Debbie, Richard, Walt and his lovely wife Marie.  I was forced to sample the local brewery’s version of India pale Ale.  You’re right Walt, the horse has kidney trouble!  After plying Walt with a GREAT DEAL of alcohol I was finally able to twist his arm and get him to show my wife some fly rods.  You see, Dianna had shown a little interest in taking up the sport a couple of weeks ago.  I decided to buy her a set-up if she wanted to try it out.  Walt pulled out a nice selection of beginner/newbie rods for Dianna to look over.  Rather than forcing her to take the "best weight for a beginner" I elected to let her choose whatever felt good in her hands.  She tried quite a few and finally made a selection. Hardy Classic 7′ 3 wt. with a (color coordinated) Hardy Golden JHL Ultralight reel filled with a peach colored (color coordinated) WF3F 444 Rocket Taper flyline by Cortland.  What can I say, the woman has excellent taste in fly fishing equipment. Saturday we hung out at Clave Central and I cruised the Watauga out the back door.  Browns all over the place!  Saturday night Debbie gave Dianna casting lessons while Tom Brown created culinary masterpieces in rib roasting. Sunday I fished with Indian Joe on a middle stretch of Wilson’s Creek then up Little Wilson’s Creek.  Sunshine made ‘em spooky but we still caught fish.  The best part was meeting and fishing with IJ.  We worked the stream in grand style and I have never had a finer fishing companion.  When I slipped on a rock and a heavy log came crashing down on my leg as my face smashed into the gravel, I was glad to have someone along who doesn’t panic in and emergency.  Dazed and bleeding, struggling out from under the log, I heard a reassuring voice behind me; "Is your rod OK?"  It didn’t take but a few minutes back to fishing with IJ to forget all about the fall and get back to the enjoyment of the streams!  Monday was spent acquiring a fishing license and Choate wading shoes for Dianna and taking her down to the Watauga in the delayed harvest section to practice.  She did wonderfully and although she didn’t hook a fish she had several rises and a couple of strikes on her flys.  When she actually saw a nice Brown rise slowly, look her fly over, then smash it, she really got excited!  By Monday afternoon a newbie was born and a flyfisherwoman at that! Tuesday morning Dianna went shopping while IJ and I headed to Elk River.  I deeply regret leaving my oversize biscuit in it’s box on the table at Pappy’s!  I could use that biscuit about now!  The Elk started slow but finished strong with IJ and I catching a number of nice native (stocked 80 yrs. ago) Browns and Rainbows.  In the mid-afternoon IJ dropped me off at "the church" on the Watauga so Dianna could pick me up after shopping. During the 45 minutes I waited I made a few casts.  One Brown each 12", 15", and 18"!!  The really neat part was the spin fisherman standing about 100′ away watching me.  He hadn’t caught a thing and didn’t the whole time I was there!  Then on to "The Great Chili Cookout" courtesy of Indian Joe and the Clave Central crew.  A great meal and a great time.  Then the great raffle. I had carefully positioned myself for the drawing and read the flow with all the consummate raffle skills at my command.  Dianna won the fly tying vise and the great TEAM SPAM shirt!  She will not let me trade the vice off ( I don’t tie).  She says she will learn!   Then came the "BIG ONE"!!  Mike Conner’s contribution.  A beautiful 9′ 3 piece 4 wt. rod by MC himself!  I do have one complaint though.  IJ won the reel and line I need to go with it!!  And I thought he was a great guy!  Darn!  Now I hafta buy another reel and line!!  Woe is me.  Just one darn thing after another!!!!  OH!  BTW.  I met JEFFC.  I didn’t kill him or even threaten to kill him.  He is still and asshole but I did win the knotted leaders he brought to the raffle.  I usually use AirFlo Polyleaders but I am going to give these leaders a try. After using them I will drop jeffc a note to tell him how they performed. He will still be an asshole then but I will know how the leaders worked. For all the ROFF guys I met; you’re one helluva bunch of great guys!! Special THANKS to Mike Conner!!!!  (oh Mike, can you send me an autographed sticker to put on the rod?)  I am damn proud to own this rod.  I do not have another 4 wt.  It will make a great nymphing rod to Brookies and for smallmouth on the Rappahannock on those still June days.  Think of it!  A 3 pound smallmouth on a 5X tippet on Mike’s 4 wt. rod on a perfect June day! I’m drooling all over the keyboard.  That is one BEAUTIFUL rod Mike! Thanks to Waldo, Jeff, and all the gang who planned and made this thing possible.  Indian Joe is a friend and fishing buddy who made my days on the streams the stuff dreams are made of.  Friday morning the newest fly fisherperson in the family and I will head to the mountains for a day of Brookie fishing.  They have been waiting for us since before the last ice age.  Their time has come! Well, The Famous Grouse is almost gone ( I left my MaCallan at Clave Central).  Thanks for listening and sharing. — Wayne (who came away …..Changed!) To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

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He will still be an asshole then but I will know how the leaders worked.

You missed the whole point of the Clave experience, Wayne. I’m embarrassed to think that you won Mike’s rod. –Steve

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Facts is Facts Steve. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

You missed the whole point of the Clave experience, Wayne. I’m – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – embarrassed to think that you won Mike’s rod. –Steve

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lotsa snippage here of a great time had by Wayne…… Wayne, congrats on winning MC’s rod, I’m sure you’ll put it to good use.  Of course you realize now that Dianna is outfitted and had a taste of ff’ing, your outfit is not complete…send me your snail mail addy and I’ll send you a matched set of a knife and fork to help you eat all that crow and humble pie  :-) …. before long Dianna will be outfishing you (just ask Rich Warren aka Debbies fishin’ pardner)  Still and all you’re a lucky man to have a wife interested in your favorite sport.  Whereabouts do you live in VA?  I get down to the eastern part fairly often (Roanoke/Lynchburg area) and haunt the Maury and James River for smallies. Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED

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Facts is Facts Steve.

Fair enough, Wayne. I was hoping that you’d put the past behind and let bygones be such–or at least let go of the angst–especially since you and Jeff are both guys who I consider friends and good people. I can’t even remember exactly what caused the escalation–but, OK, I’ll stop trying to Rodney King the whole thing Anyway, it was a pleasure meeting you and your wife and–your opinion of a friend of mine notwithstanding–I’ll recant my previous statement and say if it couldn’t be me who won the rod then I’m happy it was you. Next time I’m in the DC area, I’ll let you know. Especially since I never did get a chance to see that 6′ 6-piece gem–and everyone should catch a 4-pound smallmouth on a fly at least once a year. –Steve

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Some of us like raspberry and some of us like vanilla; it’s what makes the world go round Steve!  I was hopeing you would get a look at that little pack rod.  It is extremely unusual and I know you would appreciate the workmanship in bamboo since you craft a beautiful rod in that medium.  You get up here often enough to catch the trout and smallmouth in good seasons. Since Dave Lacourse and Wolfgang let me try their lines on the pack rod and we determined it casts prety well with a 5 wt. I just might sneak that little rascal out and let you catch Brookies in the same stream President Hoover loved to fly fish in. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Facts is Facts Steve. Fair enough, Wayne. I was hoping that you’d put the past behind and let bygones be such–or at least let go of the angst–especially since you and Jeff are both guys who I consider friends and good people. I can’t even remember exactly what caused the escalation–but, OK, I’ll stop trying to Rodney King the whole thing Anyway, it was a pleasure meeting you and your wife and–your opinion of a friend of mine notwithstanding–I’ll recant my previous statement and say if it couldn’t be me who won the rod then I’m happy it was you. Next time I’m in the DC area, I’ll let you know. Especially since I never did get a chance to see that 6′ 6-piece gem–and everyone should catch a 4-pound smallmouth on a fly at least once a year. –Steve

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What happened to my original thread?

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What is a boobie? Buzzer?

Hi Michael, A Booby is a particular type of lure, I’m surprised no-one has described one sooner. Take for example a Black Booby. Hook            Long shank #10 Tail            Black marabou Body            Black chenille with silver rib   Hackle          Black cock The Booby bit           Two polystyrene/ ethafoam beads about 3/16" diam tied at the eye of the hook. The beads are encased in a small piece of nylon stocking and tied in with a figure of 8 whipping (better still a piece of surgical rubber such as condom rubber – waterproof see!) Fished on a very short leader, about 18" with a fast sink line. Allow to sink to the bottom and retrieve slowly. Takes can be vicious. As a method of fishing, I agree with one contributor to this thread, it is boring, but just the thing when you want a bit of a rest to sip that single malt. — Bill http://www.graigroad.demon.co.uk

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<snip questions answered by Michael 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink?

Probably a bit dirty. Clean it with a very mild detergent solution, rinse well then treat it with Mucilin. 6. … How about Boobies?

Don’t know anything about UK boobies, but here in the states if you want boobies, especially the gorgeous, perky young ones, it’s best to troll with a late model sports car. — Ken Fortenberry

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Nice one!

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Sometimes you just don’t know the depth to fish. In that case I use a sinking line (they sink at different rates, so make certain you know your line). On the first few casts I’ll let it sink for 5 seconds before I start retrieving. I then go to 10 seconds and so forth until I find the correct depth.  Not as scientific as some methods,  but it usually works if you have enough patience. DLH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1. Any general rules for depth  (when I cant see the fish) Depth will primarily depend on what the fish are feeding on, and the temperature of the water.  On a hot summer day, you often get a layer of very warm water on top, and cool water underneath.  In winter you get the opposite effect.  Fish will therefore be deep.  (How deep will depend on lake and feeding behavior).  While in early spring, optimum temperatures will be in the top layer, as in late fall.  At some times of the year, fish can be anywhere in the water column. 2. Any general hotspots Generally fish hang out where there is 1) food; 2) optimum temperature; 3) protection from predators.  Typical hotspots include: — in spring fed lakes, in summer, springholes where cool water enters the lake, producing optimum temperatures — inlets, where incoming streams wash in food and/or produce optimum temperatures — drop offs which provide deep water protection with easy access to shallows holding bait fish for food. 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink? Beats me. 4. How do I guess what colour buzzer etc to use? Is a buzzers a streamer/bucktail?  Try to check out baitfish in lake. If you can’t determine, start with something close to the bottom color, e.g. brown, olive. 5. Does the size of fly depend on lake size? Not necessarily. 6. Is it easier to catch with a lure/ streamer than nymph or buzzer? How about Boobies? What is a boobie? Buzzer? Michael — www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Don’t know anything about UK boobies, but here in the states if you want boobies, especially the gorgeous, perky young ones, it’s best to troll with a late model sports car.

Cash works as well as the sports car Ken, and its a great deal less bulky, but somehow I’ve managed to lose the manual on how to acquire either.  Can you help me out here?

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… I’ve managed to lose the manual on how to acquire either.  Can you help me out here?

Buy low, sell high. Hope this helps. — Ken Fortenberry

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1. Any general rules for depth  (when I cant see the fish)

Use a weigted nymph or streamer ( lure )  and "count down"  until you get a strike.  Technique is cast, count until bottom is felt, retrieve. Cast again, count minus ten ad retrieve etc.  This works best with sinking lines, but will also wortk with nymphs etc on a very long leader. 2. Any general hotspots

Around sunken hedges and similar, it takes a while to get to know the hotspots on stillwaters.  One tip though, do not fish with the wind at your back just because it is comfortable. Fish into the wind, and try the margins first before wading in etc. If the prevailing wind has been in the same direction for some time lots of surface food etc will be very close to the bank opposite to the direction the wind is blowing. A woolly bugger or wormfly or stick fly drawn over the stones etc especially in a slight wave right in the margins is usually successful. Dont forget to try dry flies, Chew and Blagdon are noted for the good surface activity. Hoppers, and similar are a good bet. 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink?

It may be dirty, clean it with warm soapy water. Most things from Airflo are rubbish, includng their lines and rods. Buy a Cortland !!!!!!! 4. How do I guess what colour buzzer etc to use?

Try black first, then brown , then green then red, or fish a team to start with and use the one that gets the most hits. It is also possible to see buzzers hatching, take a small pair of binoculars along, and scan the water carefully. The shucks from the last hatch will ofetn be floating in the margins, and also check the spiders webs on the bushes in the area, these will have example of the last hatches stuck in them. Saves a lot of guesswork. Also you can ask one of the regulars, they are usually happy to help. Just dont clump up like a bloody elephant and disturb anyones fishing. Wait if necessary until they stop for a smoke or something. 5. Does the size of fly depend on lake size?

No, it depends on the size of the natural which you wish to imitate. Lake size is immaterial. Buzzers vary in size considerably, but sizes 12 14 and 16 are common. A snipe and purple and a partridge and orange are also excellent buzzer imitations, and catch remarkably well. 6. Is it easier to catch with a lure/ streamer than nymph or buzzer? How about Boobies?

Depends what you mean by easy. Lure fishing means continuous long casting with basically a fish imitation. It is sometimes very successful, sometimes not.  Buzzers ( midge pupae, Chironomid = non biting midges )  are usually fished static, or at least evyr slowly indeed,in the surface film. Booby fishing is usually quite deadly, technique = sinking line, short leader, no more than three feet, and down to ten inches. Cast sinking line out, allow to sink to bottom, retrieve in short pulls which causes the foam headed booby to dive towards the bottom like a fry heading for shelter. Bright fluorescent boobies work well for rainbows, more sober colours, black brown etc for browns. The technique is effective but boring. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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<snip questions answered by Michael 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink? Probably a bit dirty. Clean it with a very mild detergent solution, rinse well then treat it with Mucilin.

Hi Ken, I would beg to differ, you should on no account treat modern floating lines with Mucilin, this will damage the coating. If a dressing is required Cortland line dressing is about the best. TL MC

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Hi Ken, I would beg to differ, you should on no account treat modern floating lines with Mucilin, this will damage the coating. If a dressing is required Cortland line dressing is about the best.

Hmm. There are two Mucilins. The red Mucilin is mostly animal fat and has never hurt any of my lines so far as I can tell. The green Mucilin is a silicone paste and I’m not familiar with it. I find the Cortland to be somewhat hard to apply because it tends to clump up and make a mess. Have you tried the PZ Plasticiser ? I haven’t but it sounds good. — Ken Fortenberry

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<SNIPPED Have you tried the PZ Plasticiser ? I haven’t but it sounds good. — Ken Fortenberry

Hi Ken, I spoke to the former president of Cortland not long ago on this very subject. He confirmed that dressings, other than those recommended by the manufacturer, should be avoided.  At one time it was of no particular consequence, as long as you avoided petrochemical derivatives and one or two chemicals like DEET, and some suntan lotions  or similar. Nowadays the line coatings are so complex that it is best to avoid dressings at all if you are not sure what to use. The possibilites are in the meantime endless, even not taking things like albolene,  rain-x, vaseline,   and God knows what else into account, I do not use these, simply because I do not know what is in them, and what effect it may have on my line. I do not doubt for one second that some of them work very well.  The Cortland dressing is the best I have found up to now, I wash my lines after every outing in warm soapy water, let them dry,to the floaters I then apply a thin coat of the Cortland stuff by pulling the line slowly through the applicator and buff it off again using a soft cloth.  Never had a problem, and I have some lines that are well over ten years old and still in regular use. I have some even older ones as well, but they are a bit stiff, so I dont use them anymore. Some pastes contain solvents besides the dressing, this will at first do no obvious harm to the line, but after a while the plasticizers will be leeched out and small cracks will start to appear, shortly after that the line becomes useless.  I have seen lines damaged very badly after only being used a dozen times, it was not always possible to find out why, and may in fact have been faulty lines occasionally, but in the main the damage was due to incorrect line dressing or contamination, and on several occasions heat stress, or fume damage ( line left in boot [trunk] of car with petrol [gas] tanks etc ), fine grit adhering to some line dressings will also damage a line very quickly indeed, which would not happen if there was no dressing on it. I can see no point in buying a nice expensive line and then using some cheap dressing of largely unknown content and efficiency on it.  I dont put olive oil in my car engine either, although this would work, and be cheaper, but with what effects and for how long ? I buy the best engine oil I can get which the manufacturer recommends. While it is probable that the potential damage done by certain products is minimal, why take the chance ?  For the same reason I dont use the plasticizer products, they contain solvents which contain the plasticizers, and these may have a deleterious effect on the line with time. The plasticizer content in most modern products is designed to last the normal useful life of the product, it is unlikely that additives will extend this useful life by much if at all. The plasticizers added at manufacture are an integral component  of the plastic, those added at a later stage will only affect the surface of the line if at all, deep penetration would require a transport medium such as a solvent, and there you have "catch 22" again. I know a guy who uses bacon fat to treat his line and his leaders and his flies when necessary, and he swears the "flavour" helps as well, he may be right, but I think I will stick to my method for the time being. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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it’s dirty….clean it with a soft soap..treat it with cortland or airflo dressin, and wallah…as new. the airflo 7000ts is a fine and genuine hi-tech fly line for y2k and beyond. if you ain’t fished it… your loss. a blatant advertisement brought to you by the likes of that dastardly self promoter, laurie and jo wooer, dahlwhinnie sipper this fine eve (thanks t.), and general rascal, wataugan walt… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip questions answered by Michael 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink? Probably a bit dirty. Clean it with a very mild detergent solution, rinse well then treat it with Mucilin. Hi Ken, I would beg to differ, you should on no account treat modern floating lines with Mucilin, this will damage the coating. If a dressing is required Cortland line dressing is about the best. TL MC

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1. Any general rules for depth  (when I cant see the fish) 2. Any general hotspots 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink? 4. How do I guess what colour buzzer etc to use? 5. Does the size of fly depend on lake size? 6. Is it easier to catch with a lure/ streamer than nymph or buzzer? How about Boobies? Thanks in advance

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1. Any general rules for depth  (when I cant see the fish)

Depth will primarily depend on what the fish are feeding on, and the temperature of the water.  On a hot summer day, you often get a layer of very warm water on top, and cool water underneath.  In winter you get the opposite effect.  Fish will therefore be deep.  (How deep will depend on lake and feeding behavior).  While in early spring, optimum temperatures will be in the top layer, as in late fall.  At some times of the year, fish can be anywhere in the water column. 2. Any general hotspots

Generally fish hang out where there is 1) food; 2) optimum temperature; 3) protection from predators.  Typical hotspots include: — in spring fed lakes, in summer, springholes where cool water enters the lake, producing optimum temperatures — inlets, where incoming streams wash in food and/or produce optimum temperatures — drop offs which provide deep water protection with easy access to shallows holding bait fish for food. 3. Why does my Airflo 7000 floating line start to sink?

Beats me. 4. How do I guess what colour buzzer etc to use?

Is a buzzers a streamer/bucktail?  Try to check out baitfish in lake. If you can’t determine, start with something close to the bottom color, e.g. brown, olive. 5. Does the size of fly depend on lake size?

Not necessarily. 6. Is it easier to catch with a lure/ streamer than nymph or buzzer? How about Boobies?

What is a boobie? Buzzer? Michael — www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Sorry if this topic has been covered before…     It is time for me to start thinking about freshening up my gear for the spring season.  I will need new lines on both my 6wt and 5wt rods.  For the 5wt. I will need a DT and a WF.  For the 6 wt I will need a WF and a sinking tip WF. In your collective experience what is the best line available in these weights?  Consider all-around fishing for both trout and warm-water species. TIA Joe

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sorry if this topic has been covered before…    It is time for me to start thinking about freshening up my gear for = the spring season.  I will need new lines on both my 6wt and 5wt rods.  = For the 5wt. I will need a DT and a WF.  For the 6 wt I will need a WF = and a sinking tip WF. In your collective experience what is the best line available in these = weights?  Consider all-around fishing for both trout and warm-water = species. TIA Joe

Hi All, (#5 rod) I like double tapers for #3, 4 or 5 weight rods for stream fishing. They will usually have a shorter front taper that is better for short work and that will allow more belly out on short cast to load up the rod. On real short casts, a short rod, short front taper and short leader will allow you to have out way more belly to load up the rod. I think any of the top SA or Cortland lines are good. (#6 rod) I would get an SA Mastery Distance, Cortland 444Lazer or Cortland 444SL line in a weight forward #6 floater for that size rod. The best casting sink tips are the new SA Mastery Wet Tips. They have done something to the blending of the floating and sinking materials to eliminate the hinging effect. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, (#5 rod) I like double tapers for #3, 4 or 5 weight rods for stream fishing. They will usually have a shorter front taper that is better for short work and that will allow more belly out on short cast to load up the rod. On real short casts, a short rod, short front taper and short leader will allow you to have out way more belly to load up the rod. I think any of the top SA or Cortland lines are good. (#6 rod) I would get an SA Mastery Distance, Cortland 444Lazer or Cortland 444SL line in a weight forward #6 floater for that size rod. The best casting sink tips are the new SA Mastery Wet Tips. They have done something to the blending of the floating and sinking materials to eliminate the hinging effect. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

Bill Can you give us a bit more detail about those Wet Tips.  I should be using a sink tip for fishing speys to steelies but I hate casting the things.  I once klunked myself on the head casting a big saltwater fly on a 9 weight, for pike.  Sorta lost my enthusiasim for sink tips afterward.  Even when I mastered casting it, it was still too much like work.  Do the Wet Tips cast half-decently? Peter Peter        Merry Christmas

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Has anybody herd of a train derailment / diesel spill on Cayuga Inlet South of Ithaca NY ?  If so can you post the details. tnx

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I was fishing in Ithaca in November and signs were posted by the DEC all along the Cayuga Inlet  forbidding fishing until further notice due to diesel fuel contamination.

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I was fishing in Ithaca in November and signs were posted by the DEC all along the Cayuga Inlet  forbidding fishing until further notice due to diesel fuel contamination.

I had an article on the spill from the Syracuse Herald (?) on my site about three weeks ago.  I don’t know if the story is still up on their site, but I know my link is still up.  Check the Fishing News section, http://www.geocities.com/Baja/3297/fishing.htm Mark Cahill’s Fishing New England – Daily Fishing News Also, a deja news search may turn up a post in this group at about the same time.  I forget who posted it, but he had fairly good detail on the spill. As I recall he reported a whole bunch of floating trout. — Mark Cahill For E-mail remove the _Remove_This from the reply to address. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/3297/fishing.htm Mark Cahill’s Fishing New England – Daily Fishing News http://www.reel-time.com/ The Internet Journal of Saltwater Fly Fishing – Metropolitan Boston Regional Editor

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******* I was fishing in Ithaca in November and signs were posted by the DEC all along the Cayuga Inlet  forbidding fishing until further notice due to diesel fuel contamination. In a situation like this, is fishing forbidden or just keeping and eating? Why? William Buchman

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I’ll be turkey hunting in the florida area next week and was wondering if anyone has any experiance fishing the cold upstream of rte 2. Ive never fished it but seen it deep in the woods and it looks tasty but I never threw a fly there. Any info would be great!! P.S. I dont mind walking

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: I’ll be turkey hunting in the florida area next week and was wondering if : anyone has any experiance fishing the cold upstream of rte 2. Ive never : fished it but seen it deep in the woods and it looks tasty but I never : threw a fly there. : Any info would be great!! : P.S. I dont mind walking The Deerfield River guidebook describes it as a highly variable flowing stream with a small population of wild brookies.  I know the state stocks it, but I’m not sure with what, and there’s always the chance that big fish from that nice pool on the deerfield that the cold empties into could have come upstream.  I don’t know if the state stocks this river anywhere upstream of the last route 2 bridge.  They may, but I’m sure most of the fishing pressure is on the lower stretches.

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