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minutes explaining my business in Canada (work trip to my company’s YWG facility; the word "work" must have triggered the big red alarm).

Yep. That is a big no-no, especially when a canadian self employed goes to the USA. "Going to a meeting" is a much more acceptable reason for travel.

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Canada) through Chicago.  Air Canada services us from all other major cities in Canada, Except the second largest one… but that’s AC’s fault, not yours. Air Canada does link Winterpeg with Vancouver with at least one non-stop per day.

But to come back to the question, AC lists two connections/day SFO-YWG. Morning one thru YVR indeed, and afternoon one thru YYC.  Thru YYC is shorter; and there are four nonstop flights to YWG.

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fishing, one of the greatest areas in the world for lake fishing is about a two hour drive east of Winnipeg, just over the border into Ontario. No ! Don’t risk your life on highway 17. Stay in Manitoba. just before the ontario border where the trans canada highway narrows into a country road, there is a nice park to the right. I think it it is on the shores of lake of the woods.

I don’t think they will be riding bicycles.   Besides, 30 miles on a two lane highway is no impediment to people who really like fishing.

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Yes, its bloody cold outside. You get used to it.  It’s nice in the summer though, for those 4 months. 4 months ?  I guess if you define winter as temperatures below -20, spring and automn as temperatures below 0, then summer could be 4 months long …. In Montreal, true summer is about 4 weeks (when you can go outside in short sleeves and not have to worry about being cold during the day).

Yes, I remember my one and only (so far) trip to Canada which was spent entirely in Qu

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I was hoping someone  had some information or plans on how i could build some fishing rod holders for my garage. I want to screw them to the ceiling. Thanks in advance for any help Wade

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Wade, If no one has plans, let me know and I will trace mine for you. Gary

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One of the best ways to hold your rods to the rafters of your garage is to install lengths of PVC pipe from the rafters.  Size determines how many rods you can put in each pipe. Single storage for the small pipe, multiple storage several rods in one spot.

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    This depends on what you are looking for.  As for mine, they are made from lenghts of 4" PVC pipe.  I have to cap mine, no glue, to keep the insects out.  Also keeps the dust and dirt off the equipment.  I have them tied to the ceiling stringers with cord as my garage is not lined.     Thought I’d pass this along.

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I was hoping someone  had some information or plans on how i could build some fishing rod holders for my garage. I want to screw them to the ceiling.

I knew a girl like that once . . . Marc, who luckily got older and wiser Seriously, depends on what kind of rods.  If it’s surf rods I’ll second the PVC suggestion.  Fly rods I’d just buy a contraption which hangs from the rafters and holds the rods horizontally.  Wouldn’t waste the time trying to build something like that.

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Hi Likely to visit BC in Aug 2001. Have read a magazine article on pink salmon fishing, which sounds good. Is it really, or is this just magazine hype? Fishing on Harrison and Vedder rivers. Any advice on fishing, flies etc. much appreciated. Chris

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Haven’t experienced it, but apparently if you look up "crowded" in an illustrated dictionary, there’s a picture of the Vedder. JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Likely to visit BC in Aug 2001. Have read a magazine article on pink salmon fishing, which sounds good. Is it really, or is this just magazine hype? Fishing on Harrison and Vedder rivers. Any advice on fishing, flies etc. much appreciated.

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Hi Likely to visit BC in Aug 2001. Have read a magazine article on pink salmon fishing, which sounds good. Is it really, or is this just magazine hype? Fishing on Harrison and Vedder rivers. Any advice on fishing, flies etc. much appreciated. Chris

Chris, I lived in Alaska for a few years and Pacific Salmon fishing in BC should be about the same.  Try not to target Pink Salmon is you intend to eat what you catch.  Pink Salmon, especially after 3 minutes in fresh water, is barely about one step below most cat food.  In August, you may be able to get some early Silver/Coho Salmon which fight like a bastard and are excellent eating.  Whatever you do, don’t bother eating any Pink Salmon caught in fresh water. Most of the Salmon fishing I did with a fly rod was done with egg pattern flies.  This is about the only type of fly to use.  Dry flies would be an entire waste of time, and streamers wouldn’t be as effective.  A double-egger on a long-shank size 6 hook is good, these are commercially available and I wouldn’t bother tying my own.  They are certainly not works of art by any stretch of the imagination and will probably be worn out after half a dozen or so fish. Salmon rivers are usually subjected to a significant amount of fishing pressure, so you might not be all alone when you fish.  The general technique was a simple roll cast and drift.  Over and over and over. Some lead 12-24" from the ‘fly’, enough to keep the lead bouncing off of the bottom, is generally required to be successful.  If possible, fishing in tidal areas on incoming tides is best. Good luck, and enjoy your trip. Tom G Before you buy.

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It’s not hype. Hit the runs just right and you can hook 2 or 3 dozen fish in a few hours. The Harrison alone supports runs exceeding a million fish. The best fishing is from the last week of Sept into the 1st half of Oct. Flies are simple. Size #8 of bright pink or cerise. A sparse wing of bucktail or synthetic. A bright body of tinsel. Use a sink tip or a mono-core line. If you need additional advice email me at: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Likely to visit BC in Aug 2001. Have read a magazine article on pink salmon fishing, which sounds good. Is it really, or is this just magazine hype? Fishing on Harrison and Vedder rivers. Any advice on fishing, flies etc. much appreciated. Chris

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For several years we have gone to Vancouver Island about that time and fished  for pinks, and coho.  We have taken to using the fly rods for pinks and either trolling or casting flies from the boat in the bays.  Last trip 3 of us had over 30 pinks in an hour on the fly rods.  Pink and red hootchies in the smallest size worked well for trolling and egg flies when casting. There were so many at times that they fought over the flies. I second the motion on eating them. Don’t if they have been in fresh water at all and they aren’t very good still in salt either. Ted – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Likely to visit BC in Aug 2001. Have read a magazine article on pink salmon fishing, which sounds good. Is it really, or is this just magazine hype? Fishing on Harrison and Vedder rivers. Any advice on fishing, flies etc. much appreciated. Chris Chris, I lived in Alaska for a few years and Pacific Salmon fishing in BC should be about the same.  Try not to target Pink Salmon is you intend to eat what you catch.  Pink Salmon, especially after 3 minutes in fresh water, is barely about one step below most cat food.  In August, you may be able to get some early Silver/Coho Salmon which fight like a bastard and are excellent eating.  Whatever you do, don’t bother eating any Pink Salmon caught in fresh water. Most of the Salmon fishing I did with a fly rod was done with egg pattern flies.  This is about the only type of fly to use.  Dry flies would be an entire waste of time, and streamers wouldn’t be as effective.  A double-egger on a long-shank size 6 hook is good, these are commercially available and I wouldn’t bother tying my own.  They are certainly not works of art by any stretch of the imagination and will probably be worn out after half a dozen or so fish. Salmon rivers are usually subjected to a significant amount of fishing pressure, so you might not be all alone when you fish.  The general technique was a simple roll cast and drift.  Over and over and over. Some lead 12-24" from the ‘fly’, enough to keep the lead bouncing off of the bottom, is generally required to be successful.  If possible, fishing in tidal areas on incoming tides is best. Good luck, and enjoy your trip. Tom G Before you buy.

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I second the motion on eating them. Don’t if they have been in fresh water at all and they aren’t very good still in salt either. Ted

a saltwater pink salmon is fine to eat.  it is milder and less oily than coho.  the thing you must do is bleed the fish and get it on ice pronto… and eat it the same day. in the saltwater fisheries i fish, pinks are just by-catch during coho fishing. in august on the west coast of van. island the coho should be running pretty good.  while i fish the offshore waters between washington and van. island… i can bet the offshore fishing all down the west coast of the island will be pretty damn good… especially if next season resembles this past coho season.  i’m pretty sure there will also be some pink salmon fishing along many of the islands beaches. as for whether pinks are just magazine hype, it depends on who you ask.   cb

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Made in Duntons shop in Mass.  Before haveing his own shop Dunton was at Montague(just before WWII). They were sold under his own label and under the name of a fly shop in Manhattan(Bob Zwirz?) They were rather low end rods, drawn ferrules as an example, rather than machined. They were supposed to be rather fast with firm butts and quick tips but the ones I have seen(3 or 4) and cast seemed a bit wimpy and light in the tip.  Dunton sold his shop and machinery to Tom Dorsey and Tom Maxwell and it became Thomas and Thomas.  They went on to produce a line of superb high quality rods.  You see Dunton rods on the used lists from time to time and they don’t command much of a price.  IMHO they have some minor historical value but not much to recommend them as a fishing tool. Hi, I am interested in Sewell Dunton bambo rod. Anyone knows the magazie article or something written about it? Thanks in advance. Mikio Sugiyama

– Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                          Tom McGuane

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Hi, I am interested in Sewell Dunton bambo rod. Anyone knows the magazie article or something written about it? Thanks in advance. Mikio Sugiyama

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I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

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Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated.

Everything (and more) can be found at:     http://www.bluewaterweb.com/ Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat (Remove BOAT) http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/sideline/8620

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Spring for a copy of the Yachtsmans Guide To The Bahamas by Meredith Fields (?).  It’s a very useful book for planning your cruise and finding your way around. What part(s) of the Bahamas are you going to?  (It’s a BIG place) I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

Steve Kuiper, CPA Steve Kuiper & Co., P.A. Altamonte Springs, FL

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February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. CruisingSailor.com  has a lot of free info in the  free World Cruising Guide, East Coast of US, Bahamas section.

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I am planning a trip to the Bahamas in February.  I would like to know the proper procedure for checking into Bahamian waters and the procedures for documenting animals on board. Also the names of any good marinas would be appreciated. Thanks, John

Fly your yellow quaranteen flag when you enter Bahamian waters and keep it up until you clear. Most marinas will allow you to tie up while you clear. In fact many will call customs for you.  You can go ashore with all the paper work but your crew must stay on board until the boat is cleared. You may want to get a fishing licence at the same time! You are supposed to obtain a permit for your pet before you arrive.  Rabies shots must be a month old and less than a year old. I have heard of those arriving with just a Rabies and Health Cert being allowed to fill in the forms but don’t count on it.  If you call the Freeport Animal Clinic and ask nicely, they may fax you the forms wich include instructions on how to complete the documentation. This is then sent to Nassau and I think you are supposed to receive something back.  Take copies of all this before you send it off as you may never get a reply!  At least you have something to show when you arrive. The Lucayan Marina at Freeport is world class! have a nice trip! .   Lyman K Duggan   Naval electonics inc   6717 Benjamin Road   Tampa Florida 33634 –Marine TV Antenna Systems– (813) 885 6091 fax 885 3789   http://www.naval.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi group I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a line conditioner. Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think less ice forms using the PAM approach. Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin) — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

stockers like the butter flavour while wild fish go for olive oil! 8^) Ralph H

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Hi group I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a line conditioner. Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think less ice forms using the PAM approach. Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin) — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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: Hi group : I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in : your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used : it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in : the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the : rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a : line conditioner. Why not?  It makes sense that the oil would displace the water some so that ice would not form and build up as quickly. It should not hurt the line, although the oil will make it pick up dirt more quickly. Try Dynaglide!  I am looking at a can of it right now, and it CAN be sprayed directly onto the flyline!  It may work out better than Pam. : Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think : less ice forms using the PAM approach. : Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil : flavor? (grin) This fisherman likes the olive oil flavor better!  A good way cook trout is to spray it with Pam and grill it directly over coals, or a gas grill. Very tasty, and no skillet to clean! — Jon Porter

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Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin)

Al: From all indications the fish like the "butter" flavor the best! roflmao Joe

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I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray?

Living and fishing near the Great Lakes, ice in the guides is sort of a way of life (those seasons where I can actually FISH during the winter – unlike this year ). The only really effective solution we have found to icing guides is to build rods with oversized guides and tiptops. It certainly does not prevent the icing, but it dramatically increases the number of casts we can make before de-icing is required. My friends and I have tried all sorts of things to prevent icing, and none have really been worth the bother (or the risk to our tackle). The change to our tackle has made the bigget difference (especially the tiptop and stripping guides). Bob Petti Endwell, NY

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A new client will have me spending a fair amount of time in Phoenix. Where do I fish (trout or bass, not picky) in this desert…or do I have to take up (ugh) golf?

Hi Steph, Call Jim Fraijo at Arizona Outdoors in Tempe.  He has always shared information freely with me (602-968-3868). — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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A new client will have me spending a fair amount of time in Phoenix. Where do I fish (trout or bass, not picky) in this desert…or do I have to take up (ugh) golf?

Scope out the AZ FF site at: http://www.azlink.com/~jshannon/ DawsonH

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A new client will have me spending a fair amount of time in Phoenix. Where do I fish (trout or bass, not picky) in this desert…or do I have to take up (ugh) golf?

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What would be the best way to fish at Henry’s lake in Sept. From the bank or boat or would the best fishing be in streams in the area?

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I have fished Henry’s Lake a number of times in Sept. and October.  It can be very good in the fall.  I prefer Henry’s Lake because the fish are big, strong cut-throats and they are ready to eat.  I have fished mostly from a float tube and find it to work very well.  I use a full sinking line and olive or brown crystal buggers. I would suggest that you call a guide at Henry’s Lake by the name of Bill Schiff.  I think that is the right spelling.  His fly fishing store is right on the main hwy. just before you head up the canyon to West Yellowstone.  He knows Henry’s better than almost anyone I know. If it were me, I’d stay on Henry’s Lake unless it is real windy.  At that point, I’d go over to Cliff or Wade Lakes in Montana to do the same type of fishing.

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I have fished Henry’s a number of times in September.  I find that the

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I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first       week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I         check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch. I do have maps with other areas. But since this is my first trip I want to make the most of it, i do realize that you can’t get to know a river on your first trip but any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks!            

I was there yesterday 5/28. The water was normal and 60.3 F. It was around 50F, ambient, with a bitter wind that made it feel like high 30s. I have never seen anything like the hatches that were there. The following were on the water all   around the same time: Cream Caddis #14, Light Hendrikson #14, Brown Drake #10 (?), Pale Evening Dun (#14), BWO (#18 or #20), March Brown (#16), Gray Fox (#16). I fished the main branch below Hancock. There was no spinner fall that I could see in the daylight hours. The hatches themselves were not very plenitful but it was enough to get fish moving. I got six fish including a 14" brownie an 18" Rainbow (the largest wild fish I have ever caught).  Truly memorable for me. I observed another fisherman land a 20" brownie. I think you are in for a good time, but do get some advice on the hatches as my understanding is that everything is a couple of weeks behind. You’ll have a lot of fun.

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Phil, I agree with your advice about going to the Delaware River Club.  It sounds like you fish the Delaware fairly regularly, so I have a question for you.  Have you ever caught a trout in the big pool at the junction of the East and West branches?  I once spent an entire day fishing there without catching anything even though fish were rising all over.  Last weekend, my dad and I each caught one riser from that pool and they both turned out to be suckers.  When the sun came out and I stood up on the banks, I could see a lot of suckers, some rising, but not one trout.  I wouldn’t be surprised if I couldn’t see trout on the bottom in the deep water, but I’m sure I could identify them if they were rising.  I’ve never encountered rising suckers before, so up until now I assumed the pool held plenty of rising trout.  Now I have to wonder.  BTW, we did catch plenty of trout a little downstream of the junction pool.

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And don’t forget to catch Al Caucci’s web site online at www.mayfly.com for advice and the interactive match-the-hatch chart. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first    week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch.    I do have maps with other areas. But since this is my first trip I want to make the most of it, i do realize that you can’t get to know a river on your first trip but any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks! I prefer Al Caucci’s Delaware River Club, on the W. Branch closer to Hancock.   W.B. Anglers have better accomodations, but Caucci’s knowlege of the river and its inhabitants is unequalled.  You might want to stop in at Caucci’s fly shop f or some advice and flies. I fished up there 5/22, in the area of the PA state woodlands between Caucci’s and W.B. Anglers.  The river had only become fishable in the preceding day or so, as extremely high water brought on by seemingly incessant rains subsided.  The river was still high, but definitely wadeable and fishable.  There was a lot of hendrickson hatching and spinner-falling, but not a lot of fish activity on the surface.  Emergers seemed to work best. Normally the hendricksons are gone by early May, but everything is late this year.  You’ll probably have excellent fishing, with luck a sulfur spin ner fall which has provided me the best fishing on that river.   Also fish the Main Stem of the  Delaware below the junction of the E and W Branches in Hancock.  There are big trout there if you can cast far enough. Good luck Phil Holt

– — Steven Schwartz Bella Vena, Inc. www.panix.com/~tarpon/bellahome.html

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I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first    week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch.        I do have maps with other areas. But since this is my first trip I want to make the most of it, i do realize that you can’t get to know a river on your first trip but any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks! I prefer Al Caucci’s Delaware River Club, on the W. Branch closer to Hancock.   W.B. Anglers have better accomodations, but Caucci’s knowlege of the river and its inhabitants is unequalled.  You might want to stop in at Caucci’s fly shop for some advice and flies.

Ditto.   The West Branch seems to be trying too hard to be this exclusive flyfishing destination complete with the exclusive price.   Granted, the cabins at W.B.A. might be real nice but it’s the same river and the section at D.R.C. just *looks* a lot more fishable. I’ve also found that Bob and his wife (they run the flyshop) to be extremely congenial and very willing to share information.  When I was there with my girlfriend (who doesn’t fish) last year they asked her if she’d like to borrow some waders (not rent!) so that she would wade in the river with me.  While we were staying in the lodge there was a flyfishing school taking place and as I wandered by the dining area where the class had just had breakfast I asked if they had any coffee.  He said come on in an have whatever you want and the just left.  We had our choice of cereals, fruits and some breakfast rolls, or all three.   It’s these kinds of little things that makes staying in a place much more enjoyable. I also got a chance to see Al Caucci showing someone how to do a double haul.  He was amazing. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first    week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch.        I do have maps with other areas. But since this is my first trip I want to make the most of it, i do realize that you can’t get to know a river on your first trip but any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks!

I prefer Al Caucci’s Delaware River Club, on the W. Branch closer to Hancock.   W.B. Anglers have better accomodations, but Caucci’s knowlege of the river and its inhabitants is unequalled.  You might want to stop in at Caucci’s fly shop for some advice and flies. I fished up there 5/22, in the area of the PA state woodlands between Caucci’s and W.B. Anglers.  The river had only become fishable in the preceding day or so, as extremely high water brought on by seemingly incessant rains subsided.  The river was still high, but definitely wadeable and fishable.  There was a lot of hendrickson hatching and spinner-falling, but not a lot of fish activity on the surface.  Emergers seemed to work best. Normally the hendricksons are gone by early May, but everything is late this year.  You’ll probably have excellent fishing, with luck a sulfur spinner fall which has provided me the best fishing on that river.   Also fish the Main Stem of the  Delaware below the junction of the E and W Branches in Hancock.  There are big trout there if you can cast far enough. Good luck Phil Holt

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I fished the West Branch and the main stem just below the junction of the east and west branches this weekend.  There was a sparse Hendrickson hatch above Balls Eddy (I didn’t fish upstream of the PA line, but I imagine the hatch was better upstream).  There were a few caddis in the afternoons, but not enough to bring up many fish.  Sunday afternoon there was a good caddis/hendrickson/march brown (?) hatch in the afternoon and evening on the main stem.  The water level went down at lest eight inches between Thursday and Sunday.  Since I saw mostly Hendricksons, I guess all of the hatches are probably running a few weeks later than usual.  I wish I could go back in two weeks.

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I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first    week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch.        I

The people at West Branch will be able to direct you to various areas.   You can move around freely – find your own spots.  Right now fishing is less than ideal and fishing pressure less than usual.   See http://www.castle.net/~sglad/fishnet6.htm for additional info.

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I have reservations at the West Branch Anglers on the Delaware for the first    week in June. Any thoughts on fishing this stretch or should I         check out other sections of the west branch or possibly the east branch.        I do have maps with other areas. But since this is my first trip I want to         make the most of it, i do realize that you can’t get to know a river on your first trip but any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks!                

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Advice to the new fisherman, don’t ‘glerk’ off the fish…(trim)

Sound advice, Tim.  But for a minute there I thought you were going to resurrect the rather steamy trout tickling thread that sort of grew on everyone a while back.  Good word, glerk.  Sounds vaguely like what you’d get by crossing a goof with a jerk.  And we certainly have an abundance of both casting their wits into this particular cyberpond. John

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Go to Wal Mart and buy a fly pole, reel, line and flys. Then go to your local river and do it. The rest comes with practice and experience. That’s how most of us do it.

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: Try to think like an animal that has a pea size brain and is : scared to death. : …this is a wild animal who is always frightened. : Fish live in a perpetual state of being "always frightened" and : "scared to death"! Yet, they have "a pea size brain". : What absolute trash! Where do you get this anthropomorphic : hogwash? Come on, Jim.  Tim said you would be a better fly angler if you learned to empathize with the animal.  Have you ever seen a wild trout?  They behave exactly as if they were always threatened (except for the occassional frenzy when hoppers blow into the water, perhaps).   They prefer to feed close to cover, they are VERY sensative to movement from above, they spook easilly if you make much noise. I agree completely with Tim: think of fish as frightened wild animals and you’ll understand them better and catch more…even if they aren’t frightened in a human way. I’d also add: think of them as very, very lazy.  They don’t like to feed on tiny things in fast water: it’s too tiring.  They don’t like swimming up through six feet of water when food is available in three feet.  They like the cushy pillow of current behind a rock on the bottom.  etc. etc. PS-Their brains really ARE pea sized. — Laboratory for Applied Logic    Dept. of Computer Science University of Idaho             www: http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~foster —–BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—– Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzDtvLEAAAEEAKAC21G2Be0K0DMgjLpxrwLmsYfCz8rWcfgyABjr3Ryfk1dO nV7fFFpUF3xohR7die+/B2V9oqRQzTLeSF2ECKlsTY/yUyw2kn+P2ju1umh4Fwzd cVTvc+H69q1+Ft3kmw/PE0Pan+g0PUGGJ43stw3q4OgBHdixbRd/f9giJFDxAAUR tCZKYW1lcyBBLiBGb3N0ZXIgPGZvc3RlckBjcy51aWRhaG8uZWR1PokAlQMFEDD8 ReEXf3/YIiRQ8QEBFrAD/2AFuRWcD/3MENC3qJMC/Or1qxknjkK7Uv+TDf2LHPOY GHBbG9PyWuXQ8of0Dd+JYwf/tzlO9Yk1s1zTdikfriak21FW0bCokxDIhA3myppZ IZDWVA9CyvDYHuP5Ii1NkBvocab813JzDLZA+0iVN5sebGb9zSXR4Za47hlriHeP =RDHK —–END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—–

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Try to think like an animal that has a pea size brain and is scared to death. …this is a wild animal who is always frightened.

 Obviously you’ve never encountered native browns, ordinarily very wary…during a heavy sulphur, hendrickson, x_drake or salmonfly hatch. …I feel sorry for you…You’ve been missing some of nature’s unique events. tight_lines,             Steve D.

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: I know A little but not much,Any tips on casting or anything would help : me. I don’t know where you live, but if you’re near a university or community college, be sure to check out their catalogues and any possible community enrichment programs.  Here at UI we have fly tying classes in the PhysEd Curriculum.  At nearby Washington State University they have flyfishing classes in PhysEd, taught by no less than Dave Engerbretson.  I learned to cast from Dave at a community enrichment summer program here (and from a friend with whom I fish).   — Laboratory for Applied Logic    Dept. of Computer Science University of Idaho             www: http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~foster —–BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—– Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzDtvLEAAAEEAKAC21G2Be0K0DMgjLpxrwLmsYfCz8rWcfgyABjr3Ryfk1dO nV7fFFpUF3xohR7die+/B2V9oqRQzTLeSF2ECKlsTY/yUyw2kn+P2ju1umh4Fwzd cVTvc+H69q1+Ft3kmw/PE0Pan+g0PUGGJ43stw3q4OgBHdixbRd/f9giJFDxAAUR tCZKYW1lcyBBLiBGb3N0ZXIgPGZvc3RlckBjcy51aWRhaG8uZWR1PokAlQMFEDD8 ReEXf3/YIiRQ8QEBFrAD/2AFuRWcD/3MENC3qJMC/Or1qxknjkK7Uv+TDf2LHPOY GHBbG9PyWuXQ8of0Dd+JYwf/tzlO9Yk1s1zTdikfriak21FW0bCokxDIhA3myppZ IZDWVA9CyvDYHuP5Ii1NkBvocab813JzDLZA+0iVN5sebGb9zSXR4Za47hlriHeP =RDHK —–END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—–

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snippage Catch some bugs.

Yes.  If you can’t find the bugs, this should be a clue. It amazes me how few people get this part.

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Fish live in a perpetual state of being "always frightened" and "scared to death"! Yet, they have "a pea size brain". What absolute trash! Where do you get this anthropomorphic hogwash? No wait, let me guess….

Gosh Jim, You’re right, I’m wrong.  I do *not* know what a fish thinks when it heads for the big mossy on sight of an osprey a flyline or your masculane visage. I did, wrongly, associate fear with this behavior.  Let’s call this running and hiding ‘glerk’ just so there is no anthropromorphism, ok ?  I mean, it would be wrong to say ’spook the fish’, too…right ? Advice to the new fisherman, don’t ‘glerk’ off the fish, they’re tough to catch with their snoot under a rock. Thanks Jim, for pointing this out. Tim Walker

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It’s hard to say but I suggest that you go to the library or a bookstore and get a few books. That has been very helpful for me

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Go to a local shop and see if they offer a casting clinic.  Will save you years of trial and error and lots of wasted time untying knots.  Would recommend the Essence of Flycasting (Vol. I) by mel Krieger for a concise intro to flycasting.  If CA is an option, e-mail me and I will send you a schedule of classes.

Hi Dan, I certainly agree with your suggestion. I advise people (like you) to get training from a person who knows – a flyshop person, a club member, or a school instructor. Good Tying & Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Go to a local shop and see if they offer a casting clinic.  Will save you years of trial and error and lots of wasted time untying knots.  [SNIP]

With all due respect, This casting business is highly overrated.  Casting should be the *last* thing taught in flyfishing, not the first. (IMHO).   Take out two rod lengths of line…no more, and work on stealth and line control.  If you can’t cast a rod length or two after a couple of minutes, take up carving gnomes in wood. Learn some simple knots…hell use overhand knots, the fish won’t care. Tie ‘em on man and go fishin’ ! This is not rocket science. Fish bait for a few seasons and lures and stuff.  Learn to read the water. Catch some bugs.   Try to think like an animal that has a pea size brain and is scared to death.  Try to put food in front of its face just like you imagine it would look if it were real.   Don’t be a dork wading like an elephant in a white shirt…this is a wild animal who is always frightened.  Respect that…and you will catch fish. TimW "Graduated Line Method of Flyfishing Learning"

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I know A little but not much,Any tips on casting or anything would help me.                                           Thanks                                                                   Brent

Sorry Brent But that question is just too broad to try and answer in a message. I just started out last year and this is what I can suggest 1) Scientific Anglers, LL Bean, Lefty Kreh all have videos to help you get started, as well as there are many books out there to get you started. 2)Go out to a local flyfishing shop and see if they offer course, believe me it is much easier if you start out right, then starting with the wrong techniqwue and trying to correct it later. 3) Grab a cheap-o rod and start practising… Tyson

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I know A little but not much,Any tips on casting or anything would help me.                                            Thanks                                                                          Brent

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