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Can anyone tell me anything about flyfishing in Chincoteague? Guides? Fish running in August? Places to fish? Rent boats? — Steven Locke Spam control: remove the 8 to e-mail

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Can anyone tell me anything about flyfishing in Chincoteague? Guides? Fish running in August? Places to fish? Rent boats?

Best thing I can offer is a maybe.   I know that Kevin Johansen is well regarded as a guide on the lower Chesapeake, but I don’t know if he goes over to Chincoteague.   I don’t have his number handy, but if you don’t get any better leads, let me know & I’ll dig it up. Joe F.

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Carl, Check out Royal Gorge Anglers.. While I have not used them, they are very active on some of the fly fishing boards. http://www.royalgorgeanglers.com/ Paul

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My Father-in-law will be in Pueblo, CO around the end of June,  Is there a good fly-shop to go to there?

The Wal-Mart is actually not half bad. The one in Canon City, that is. No, I’m not bs’ing you. Also, does anyone have an idea what will the fishing be like?   and where he should go (within an hour or so drive?)

Um…the Arkansas River is not too far west. But I’ve never had a hookup there except on streamers and Rapalas. Vegetables aren’t food. Vegetables are what the food eats.

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My Father-in-law will be in Pueblo, CO around the end of June,  Is there a good fly-shop to go to there? Also, does anyone have an idea what will the fishing be like?   and where he should go (within an hour or so drive?) Carl

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Try rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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There is an excellent fly-tying course at http://www.flyanglersonline.com TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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I sort of agree with the kit concept….granted some things are sub-par….but you have to have decided you want to tie and be getting ‘into’ it before you have the knowledge that the things ‘are’ sub par. there are different grades of kits, and you usually get a vidoe or book or two to help you get started….. To a person who knows they want to tie…..piecemeal…..to the curious or don’t forget the local groups like the one you missed…..there are usually more than just Trout Unlimited….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a catch 22 here…If you buy a beginners kit, it is cheap and if you decide tying is not for you, you only loose a few bucks.  However the tools are also cheap and that can make tying difficult and annoying.  On the other hand, good tools are a pleasure to use however they can be pricey. If possible, get a friend to let you tie or at your local fly shop.  If you like it, invest in a nice vice and bobbin. There is an excellent video series on PBS called "flytying, the anglers art".  You might try to hunt it down.  That’s how I learned to tie. gang, last fall I found out that our local TU chapter was going to offer a free fly tying course in the Jan/Feb time-frame and provide all the materials to anyone that was interested.  I asked them to email me when they finalized the dates and a couple of the guys that ran the meeting agreed.  To make a long story short, I never got an email and when I finally found out about the course, it was already in the 4th week so I figured I missed all the basic stuff and blew it off (my own fault, of course, I should have been checking on it instead of relying on being notified). Now that I’ve been fishing again for a month, I’m really regretting missing that course and wondering if I could teach myself with a tying kit and a good book or video.  I realize it would probably not be a good way to learn, but I don’t know anyone that ties and there are no scheduled courses anywhere near me that I’m aware of. Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too! Tim

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If it is a full coat of a reasonable ( light) colour, consider cutting it up and dyeing it. Mink makes excellent dubbing, and the guard hairs ( these are the longer hairs )  may be used for hair-wings etc.  Cut into strips they make excellent zonker patterns etc. It might however be a good idea to try selling the coat as it is, you may find that the proceeds will keep you in fly-dressing materials for a long time. By the way, mink skins are cheap and easy to come by, any furrier will give you a bundle of them for next to nothing, mink coats seldom are ! TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Buying materials separately is usually a much better and more economical idea. Have a look at my site, ( address is in the sig line) there is a little bit about starting fly-dressing there. TL MC

I printed your tool list and will take it shopping.  Makes sense to buy the correct amount of the right material.  Now I have to decide what to do with this full length mink coat.  I have had it for years and my new bride doesn’t want it.  She has already released it for tying material.  Maybe eel or leach patterns with mink strips?  Maybe I can make up a couple of mink reel pouches! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Decide what you want to tie, look up the materials necessary. Buy these. Buy a Thompson pro vice, a good pair of scissors, a ceramic bobbin holder and a pair of medium hackle pliers.  A needle glued into a piece of dowel with epoxy, makes a good dubbing needle, and is also used for applying varnish ( head cement) to flies.  Start with simple flies. There are some very good kits on the market, but these are invariably quite expensive, and will contain stuff you do not need. Also the amount of certain materials is usually less than you need for a couple of dozen flies. Buying materials separately is usually a much better and more economical idea. Have a look at my site, ( address is in the sig line) there is a little bit about starting fly-dressing there. TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too!

The Art of Fly Tying CD-ROM is only $20 these days (www.feather-craft.com).  You don’t need a kit.  Thompson Pro is a good beginner’s vise and will last a long time.  Many experienced tiers still use theirs.  You have fished for a year now so should have a good idea of what flies you commonly use.  Buy the materials you need for those flies and you will be in good shape.  Start with simple flies like wooly buggers or hare’s ear nymphs.  Do you trust the guys at the local fly shop?  They should be able to get you pointed in the right direction. Mu Mu

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 Dr. Slick sounds familiar but I can’t place the name.

Cabela’s has them, as well as most fly shops. — Charlie…

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Oh BTW I’ve found it very handy to also have a pair with a serrated edged for tougher stuff.  Mine are cheaper than my "fine" ones and work fine. YMMV — Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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Equipment caveat:   Avoid the cheapo kits.   Get decent stuff.   If you buy a cheapo kit, your chances of having a positive result are reduced, and you’ll end up throwing it all out because nobody else wants it.   Spend twice as much on decent stuff, and if you don’t like it, you can sell it for half what you paid on Ebay.   You’re out the same amount of money either way.

Joe, I’m getting lots of good advice here and am leaning toward buying a kit just because I really don’t have anyplace closeby to buy it peice by peice and I can order one from somewhere like Orvis or Cabela’s. What would you consider to be a good kit and not a "cheapo" kit? I also really like the idea of the CD and am going to see if I can find it somewhere. Tim

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At least one pair of fine top quality scissors is more or  less essential for fine work on the flies themselves.  For everything else normal scissors will do. Keep your fine scissors only for fine work, and do not cut any rough materials or wire with them, and they will last a long time. TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Check out the Wiss scissors, which I’ve seen in other stores besides fly shops – made for sewers I guess.  There’s a picture on this page: http://www.mwflytying.com/tools/fav_tools.html *Disclaimer: I haven’t used them, I just think they look cool and I’m about to buy some myself.

I have a couple pair of Wiss scissors, a larger one I use for sewing projects and a small one I’ve used for fly tying for many years.  Very high quality at a reasonable price.

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I have some but prefer Dr. Slick (scissors that is). — Charlie…

You find those at medical supply/pharmacy houses, fly tying material shops, hardware stores, or fabric shops?  Dr. Slick sounds familiar but I can’t place the name. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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A pharmaceutical fly shop?…..bet he’s got leaves from bushes to chew on to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My top tip – get good scissors.   Nothing is worse that trying to make that close cut with dull, shitty scissors. Joe F. I just spent some time on Mike Connor’s site.  I think I’ll take up "fly dressing" instead of "fly tying", sounds much prettier.  Mike makes the same point about the scissors.  I’ll be dropping by Harry Murray’s fly shop tomorrow when Dianna and I are on the way up to Big Stoney Creek for trout.  Harry is a pharmacist and runs the fly shop and pharmacy together.  Perhaps I can compare surgical scissors and "fly dressing" scissors. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Check out the Wiss scissors, which I’ve seen in other stores besides fly shops – made for sewers I guess.  There’s a picture on this page: http://www.mwflytying.com/tools/fav_tools.html *Disclaimer: I haven’t used them, I just think they look cool and I’m about to buy some myself.

I have some but prefer Dr. Slick (scissors that is). — Charlie…

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We do have a question though.  What about the quality of the scissors being offered out there.  Do we need the speciality scissors or are there commonly available scissors doing the same or better job?

Check out the Wiss scissors, which I’ve seen in other stores besides fly shops – made for sewers I guess.  There’s a picture on this page: http://www.mwflytying.com/tools/fav_tools.html *Disclaimer: I haven’t used them, I just think they look cool and I’m about to buy some myself. Regards, Jeff

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….What about the quality of the scissors being offered out there…..

I have no idea of what is offered with kits Wayne, and I suppose that there is a wide variety of types and quality sold in fly shops.  What really matters is that they have fine points, are well made of quality material, and that they fit your fingers.  The most convenient place to look for scissors that will meet these criteria is a fabric shop.  Sewers use a variety of scissors and they come in all sizes.  If you’re looking for something more specialized, your local veterinarian or a friend who works at a hospital can turn you on to a bewildering array.

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Tim,      I have recently taught myself to tie.  I bought a kit, and I’m not upset that I did.  It gave me a vise, scissors, bobbin, threader, hooks and some materials.  Granted, this stuff isn’t the greatest quality but it got me started.  The next thing I did was purchase a book by Skip Morris, Fly Tying made Clear and Simple.  This book is great.  It can teach anyone to tie.  Now that I am better I am ready to upgrade my vise, but the one from the kit has done just fine.  When you catch your first fish on a fly you tied yourself, it is all worth it! I highly recommend the Skip Morris book, it has very thorough step by step instructions and great pictures for each step.  It is also spiral bound, so that it stays open easily.  What I did was bought the book, picked the first few patterns, went to my fly shop and bought the things I needed to tie those. Came home and worked on those few patterns, when I got them down, I  went on to the next few patterns, went to the shop for the materials  etc…That way I didn’t have to drop hundreds of dollars at once.  I have really enjoyed it and am sure you will too. Have fun with your new hobby, J. Day

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My top tip – get good scissors.   Nothing is worse that trying to make that close cut with dull, shitty scissors. Joe F.

I just spent some time on Mike Connor’s site.  I think I’ll take up "fly dressing" instead of "fly tying", sounds much prettier.  Mike makes the same point about the scissors.  I’ll be dropping by Harry Murray’s fly shop tomorrow when Dianna and I are on the way up to Big Stoney Creek for trout.  Harry is a pharmacist and runs the fly shop and pharmacy together.  Perhaps I can compare surgical scissors and "fly dressing" scissors. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too!

I received a Christmas gift last year of a computer CD "The Art of Fly Tying" that has a lot of video clips and audio instruction on various techniques.   It’s actually pretty cool.   I’m a beginner myself, and I did take a short course from a local shop the year before, but I thought the CD showed a lot of the same stuff (more, actually) just as well, and in some cases better (close up shots).   There is no substitute for in-person instruction for feedback, evaluation, and troubleshooting; but if you have no other option, I’d recommend the CD. Equipment caveat:   Avoid the cheapo kits.   Get decent stuff.   If you buy a cheapo kit, your chances of having a positive result are reduced, and you’ll end up throwing it all out because nobody else wants it.   Spend twice as much on decent stuff, and if you don’t like it, you can sell it for half what you paid on Ebay.   You’re out the same amount of money either way.   My top tip – get good scissors.   Nothing is worse that trying to make that close cut with dull, shitty scissors. Joe F.

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I sort of agree with the kit concept….granted some things are (snip)

Due to a happy turn of events my wife and I have recently begun to look at fly tying.  We will be picking up some basic beginner books and canvassing some local tiers for "hands on" assistance.  At least one local fly shop offers "custom kits" made to suit your skill level and the type of fly you wish to tie.  They even offer "specialty kits" to tie specific flys.  I think we will read and watch and try a few basic flys.  This winter we will attend one of the many fly tieing classes being offered. We do have a question though.  What about the quality of the scissors being offered out there.  Do we need the speciality scissors or are there commonly available scissors doing the same or better job? — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Hi Tim, I bought a kit when I first started to learn to tie, that was a mistake. Go down to your local shop and buy a vice, scissors, and a bobbin. You can add to your tools as you see fit. Then ask the guy behind the counter what materials you need to tie the types of flies that you use most, and buy the materials to tie them. Also ask him to recommend a book. I taught myself how to tie and while I’m not the greatest, I do catch fish (occasionally) on my flies. When you buy a kit, you get materials that you may never use. I still have some stuff from my kit and I’ve been tying for about 8 years now. HTH, Darin

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There is a catch 22 here…If you buy a beginners kit, it is cheap and if you decide tying is not for you, you only loose a few bucks.  However the tools are also cheap and that can make tying difficult and annoying.  On the other hand, good tools are a pleasure to use however they can be pricey.  If possible, get a friend to let you tie or at your local fly shop.  If you like it, invest in a nice vice and bobbin. There is an excellent video series on PBS called "flytying, the anglers art".  You might try to hunt it down.  That’s how I learned to tie.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gang, last fall I found out that our local TU chapter was going to offer a free fly tying course in the Jan/Feb time-frame and provide all the materials to anyone that was interested.  I asked them to email me when they finalized the dates and a couple of the guys that ran the meeting agreed.  To make a long story short, I never got an email and when I finally found out about the course, it was already in the 4th week so I figured I missed all the basic stuff and blew it off (my own fault, of course, I should have been checking on it instead of relying on being notified). Now that I’ve been fishing again for a month, I’m really regretting missing that course and wondering if I could teach myself with a tying kit and a good book or video.  I realize it would probably not be a good way to learn, but I don’t know anyone that ties and there are no scheduled courses anywhere near me that I’m aware of. Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too! Tim

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My uncle gave me his 1950 Herters fly set-up a couple a years ago.  I have been learnin’ ever since.  But a starter kit, a few books on the subject, and just start tryin’. Op

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gang, last fall I found out that our local TU chapter was going to offer a free fly tying course in the Jan/Feb time-frame and provide all the materials to anyone that was interested.  I asked them to email me when they finalized the dates and a couple of the guys that ran the meeting agreed.  To make a long story short, I never got an email and when I finally found out about the course, it was already in the 4th week so I figured I missed all the basic stuff and blew it off (my own fault, of course, I should have been checking on it instead of relying on being notified). Now that I’ve been fishing again for a month, I’m really regretting missing that course and wondering if I could teach myself with a tying kit and a good book or video.  I realize it would probably not be a good way to learn, but I don’t know anyone that ties and there are no scheduled courses anywhere near me that I’m aware of. Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too! Tim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gang, last fall I found out that our local TU chapter was going to offer a free fly tying course in the Jan/Feb time-frame and provide all the materials to anyone that was interested.  I asked them to email me when they finalized the dates and a couple of the guys that ran the meeting agreed.  To make a long story short, I never got an email and when I finally found out about the course, it was already in the 4th week so I figured I missed all the basic stuff and blew it off (my own fault, of course, I should have been checking on it instead of relying on being notified). Now that I’ve been fishing again for a month, I’m really regretting missing that course and wondering if I could teach myself with a tying kit and a good book or video.  I realize it would probably not be a good way to learn, but I don’t know anyone that ties and there are no scheduled courses anywhere near me that I’m aware of. Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too! Tim

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gang, last fall I found out that our local TU chapter was going to offer a free fly tying course in the Jan/Feb time-frame and provide all the materials to anyone that was interested.  I asked them to email me when they finalized the dates and a couple of the guys that ran the meeting agreed.  To make a long story short, I never got an email and when I finally found out about the course, it was already in the 4th week so I figured I missed all the basic stuff and blew it off (my own fault, of course, I should have been checking on it instead of relying on being notified). Now that I’ve been fishing again for a month, I’m really regretting missing that course and wondering if I could teach myself with a tying kit and a good book or video.  I realize it would probably not be a good way to learn, but I don’t know anyone that ties and there are no scheduled courses anywhere near me that I’m aware of. Can anyone recommend a good learners kit and/or setup that would get me started?  If I’m just asking for trouble and should bag the idea please let me know that too! Tim

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context. Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation!

Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-) The futile strugglings of a desperate soul…can be fun to watch in the right context.       – Ken — "Complex problems have simple, easy-to-understand wrong answers."                                          -Anon

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After reading Tim quote in context on sci.bio.fisheries, a limitted discussion of what constitutes a natural fishery came up.  One person felt that there wasn’t such a thing because once we include man, it is no longer natural. Dave Fluir gave the following definition: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My own bent, and this is, of course, purely personal bias, is to think of a natural fishery, in the purest sense of that term, as the following:    The exploitation of a fish population sustained solely by natural reproduction with no deliberate attempt at the inflation of    carrying capacity through a) anthropogenic nutrient input or b) introduction of species not enzootic to the waterbody for the    express purpose of increasing fish production. Wow, what a mouthful, eh? Dave (should I put on asbestos, now?) Fluri North Bay, Ontario  Canada

Another person said that that included most of the fisheries in his state, however, the bodies of water are themselves artificial. What makes a natural fishery? What waters do you consider natural fisheries? Willi

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"buttload of small ones"? Careful with that Powlesland bait, Timmy ;^)

You’re right…appreciate the ‘heads-up’… ouch there’s another one… ouch..that’s one too… I worry about a man who thinks a dick in melted sidewalk salt is a homoerotic image. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation!

You probably complain to Blockbuster that the previews aren’t full length versions either ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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I worry about a man who thinks a dick in melted sidewalk salt is a homoerotic image.

What about someone who ponders putting his there? <g — Charlie…

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Cruelty to animals.  The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management " Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-)

Quite the opposite my man.  Quite the opposite.  But of course, since you only look at the pictures (and in this case only read the subject line) I wouldn’t expect you to know. It was *PROVEN* that you reply without reading the posts earlier on in this thread Janek, you’re pretty much removed from any possibility of an intelligent debate AFAIC. That said, I am extremely tickled and very pleased with the sincere and intelligent followups I have seen to followup here in sci.bio.fisheries (Gee….sci.bio.fisheries…1 solid response based on science there would be worth 1000 based on emotion here) alt.flyfishing and co.general.  I have found a new home away from home in sci.bio.fisheries ! This following (admittedly out of context but standing alone) quote was the only reply I needed to refuel the cells.  I most certainly am not "mad" about the lack of response.  The only lack of response that I’m mad about is the lack of response from the CDOW. "It is true that the animal rights activists are going to attack this sport with vigor in the next few years. It is time a few fishermen break out of the lock-step of C&R and develop campaigns to pre-empt the inevitable" AMEN Brother…. To Catch is Human, to eat, the *only* possible justification To Catch. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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Another person said that that included most of the fisheries in his state, however, the bodies of water are themselves artificial. What makes a natural fishery? What waters do you consider natural fisheries?

I generally dislike attempting to define the undefinable, but from a "gut feeling" perspective, I have a definition that I for the most part agree with. A fishery with naturally reproducing fish.  I include fisheries which were stocked with hatchery fish, but that are now self- reproducing. Just my $0.02,      - Ken — "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing

Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-) Quite the opposite my man.  Quite the opposite.  But of course, since you only look at the pictures (and in this case only read the subject line) I wouldn’t expect you to know. It was *PROVEN* that you reply without reading the posts earlier on in this thread Janek, you’re pretty much removed from any possibility of an intelligent debate AFAIC.

B.M.T.I.A.  I love it when you have to resort to your famous *PROVEN* accolades.  It has been "proven" that you have never "proven" a damn thing here.  Every one of your "facts" has been shown to be nothing more than opinion and emotion and lots of people have taken you to task on these.  Throw away your emotional and ethical arguments and you haven’t a leg to stand on.  (No, not even your third leg after you’ve been playing with salt and sidewalks.)  You are all hot air and have been shown as such.  There are many people here willing to hold intelligent discussions, unfortunately you are not one of them. AMEN Brother….

These really are your true colors.  You are on a crusade.  Just like the other loons who stand on street corners and shout insults and tell us all to "repent your evil ways."  As with the other loons, there is no room for reason in your mind.  You’ve never pondered a single thing any other person has said here dispite many well thought out arguments by a great many intelligent people.  It must be sad to live inside such a tiny inflexible mind. Happy Friday,      - Ken — "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ?

naw…. don’t like the glue lines and they always come with a wierd bend to them. <G chris

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[snipped] …the need to harvest a buttload of small ones from time to time

"buttload of small ones"? Careful with that Powlesland bait, Timmy ;^)

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context.

Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation! RalphH

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To Catch is Human, to eat, the *only* possible justification To Catch.

The need to justify is an attribute of guilt. — Charlie…

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Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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I’m sorry everybody, but someone’s going to do it anyway.  So it might as well be me… "That said, I *am* an unabashed Animal Rights supporter. I *WOULD* vote to  make C&R illegal." – Tim Walker Do a DejaNews search if you want to see the context, but it doesn’t matter he meant exactly what he said.        - Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you? Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer

– "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you?

Yes, I am a member of the human race. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management " Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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Ah. I can think of no other two words which would inspire so much daydreaming, except maybe ‘beaver’ instead of ‘trout’.

You’d love driving around N GA, TN and NC. "Trout ponds’ are all over the place, they provide the poles and bait your hook too. Your pa,

Uh, don’t think so<g. — Charlie…

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G

Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context.  It was discussing the fact of correcting an imbalance in a fishery vis-a-vis predator/prey relationship and the need to harvest a buttload of small ones from time to time and the observation that most anglers probably won’t fool with a 5 inch crappie, though that might be the best thing to be done and an electric fillet knife makes short order of filleting 200 bluegills. Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Your pa, Uh, don’t think so<g.

You’re right…. I meant to type "Your bitch," — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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You misspelled ‘trout pond’<g.

Ah. I can think of no other two words which would inspire so much daydreaming, except maybe ‘beaver’ instead of ‘trout’. Your pa, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management "

what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G chris

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management "

You misspelled ‘trout pond’<g. — Charlie…

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Mike:  those reviews were undoubtedly too long and complex for use on this guy’s site.  You really ought to be more concise in your evaluations, or you may never see your raffle tickets (which are roughly akin to powerball lottery tickets, I should note) Mark Faulkner

You are of course as usual perfectly right. My apologies. Here are the modified reviews.  Win$ton $age Orvi$ Hardy= hardly Cane is in$ane. Graphite= diamond just another aggregate, same price. Fluorocarbon = Dupont shares. Hoffman = Good dry flie$ Renzetti= Vice ( expensive, but sometimes worth it ) Airflo= no no Send tickets to  RO$$. TL

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I’m giving away a new Sage 389-5 on my site.  I’m trying to compile reviews on Fly fishing equipment.  It works like a raffle, for every review you get one raffle ticket! Thanks, Forrest http://www.flyfishingreview.com/topics/contest.html Forrest Arakawa FlyFishingREVIEW.com http://www.flyfishingreview.com Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Airflo is crap.

I really like their PolyLeaders, that’s a product for which I’d hike a ways. — Ken Fortenberry

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I’m giving away a new Sage 389-5 on my site.  I’m trying to compile reviews on Fly fishing equipment.  It works like a raffle, for every review you get one raffle ticket!

Winston is too expensive Sage is too expensive. Orvis is too expensive. Hardy is too expensive, Cane is too expensive. Graphite is too expensive. Fluorocarbon is ridiculously expensive. Hoffman is expensive but worth it. Renzetti is too expensive but probably worth it. Airflo is crap. Please send my ten tickets to a needy person on ROFF. TL MC

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Mike:  those reviews were undoubtedly too long and complex for use on this guy’s site.  You really ought to be more concise in your evaluations, or you may never see your raffle tickets (which are roughly akin to powerball lottery tickets, I should note) Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m giving away a new Sage 389-5 on my site.  I’m trying to compile reviews on Fly fishing equipment.  It works like a raffle, for every review you get one raffle ticket! Winston is too expensive Sage is too expensive. Orvis is too expensive. Hardy is too expensive, Cane is too expensive. Graphite is too expensive. Fluorocarbon is ridiculously expensive. Hoffman is expensive but worth it. Renzetti is too expensive but probably worth it. Airflo is crap. Please send my ten tickets to a needy person on ROFF. TL MC

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

I would also like to hear some suggestions.  I plan on taking a trip there soon and would like to put in some time fly fishing.  I have heard fishing the islands can be pretty tough however…anyone have info on Maui? -Greg

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

Hi Jeff, I heard that there was a bike shop that had some fly fishing equipment. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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HI and thanks, I’ll be in New Orleans early next month.  If you can recommend a guide, or other contact,  for redfish or other local fishing targets, I be very appreciative.   — Tim Ackerman "everyone lives downstream"

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HI and thanks, I’ll be in New Orleans early next month.  If you can recommend a guide, or other contact,  for redfish or other local fishing targets, I be very appreciative. — Tim Ackerman "everyone lives downstream"

Hi- I checked this out last year. There is a guide there by the name (I think) of Bubba Rodriguez (which I think they pronounce Buh-bee) who has been featured on ESPN in the past and was kind of a fly fishing pioneer in New Orleans. Unfortunately, I have lost his phone number, but maybe someone from New Orleans can help. I got the info by placing a post on Good Luck!

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Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

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The best spot in Nova Scotia is the Margaree Valley, and they are having some trouble there. Last fall we stayed at the Big Intervale Salmon Camp, in Cape Breton Nova Scotia, and cannot say enough great things about it. Absolutely wonderful host…Bill Davison (mum is head chef), but not many bites. Bill is very knowledgeable about the situation in Nova Scotia and I would be glad to track down a number at the lodge for you…we have something around here somewhere…also check out the Saint Mary’s River area on the Eastern Shore of the province…and also what might be happening in New Brunswick… Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

– http://fox.nstn.ca/~bpower

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I have the opportunity to spend a week in Denver in mid-June (8-14). I plan on fishing while there. Is there a concern about run-off and high water? What about the South Platte? Any other suggestions? Should I expect any dry-fly activity? I checked all of the CO – related web-links, but data on this time of year is not readily available. Any info is appreciated. Phil

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I have the opportunity to spend a week in Denver in mid-June (8-14). I plan on fishing while there. Is there a concern about run-off and high water? What about the South Platte? Any other suggestions? Should I expect any dry-fly activity? I checked all of the CO – related web-links, but data on this time of year is not readily available. Any info is appreciated. Phil

Phil, last year the run-off ended past mid July, it was a record season for kayaking. Also, A-basin, the highest ski resort, did not shut down for the summer. We got a lot of snow this year, too, and being conservative, I don’t expect to be dry fly fishing before July. Roberto — phone +303-492-3504       |  Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry fax +303-492-5894         |  University of Colorado at Boulder

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Peterson)" says: anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp

Comparaduns.  

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Looking for information on the upper Kings River, above Pine Flat dam. I read an earlier posting on the area around Courtright Res., and would love some specifics on that area, as I live very close.  What about the Bear Creek Diversion and above?  Any one have any comments and or experiences up in those parts?  Thanks in advance. Sean

Hi Sean: Bear Creek above the dam to Twin Falls (especially the 100 yards or so just below the falls) is fairly good for brook trout from late May to early July.  But be prepared for mosquitos from late June on.  It’s a real nice day trip. The only fishing I’ve done on the Kings River is on the South Fork in Paradise Valley (7 miles in from Cedar Grove Road end).  Really nice just before Memorial Day when the black ants start flying.  It’s my Spring ritual to work out the kinks. Mark

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    The upper Kings river used to be an awsome fishery. Large rainbows.  I havent fished it since 1986 but when I did I caught four large bows on a stonefly nymph.   They ranged from 20-24 inches and were thick bodied.  I don’t know if the drought affected the fishery or not.  Of course this time of the year the enormous runoff makes fishing difficult at best and you have to compete with the river rafters. You should also be advised to keep a sharp eye on your step the rattlers are everywhere and they are gigantic.  I have even seen them swimming in the river.  My advise to you is to take the dirt road at the second bridge, take the road on the side of the river that you are on before you cross the bridge otherwise you will encounter to much rafter traffic enroute to or coming from Garnet Dike area which is a favorite raft launching spot.  Good luck.      Regarding bear diversion ;  Good area small trout but plentifull, mostly brookies. I know some fantastic fishing areas in the Kaiser wilderness area that I dont necessarily want to share with the world  but if you will E-mail me personally I will share them privately because you are a FSU Bulldog.  What do you think about the Shark getting hired?  You should also be aware that Bear CCreek is out at least till Memorial day because of the snow. My sources with SCE say that Kaiser Pass probebly

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i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact  we live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous — gp

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anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp

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what is going on with this group i sent 4 postings and they have all gone with the rest of them is there some time limit on the postingsand is it possible to read old back posting  thanks — gp

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: i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact  we : live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any : pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, : norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well : as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an : abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. : the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous : — : gp —It sounds like you can tie just about any nymph there is.  For dries you definately want some hackle (or duck quills for no hackle dries).                                 jamie

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Tie the Rhycophilia Caddis pupa (sp?).  It’ just a fur dubbed body.  Add some long hair to the head as legs.  All you need are some 200R or 205BL hooks. Substitute hair for tail, wingcase and legs in most patterns and you’ll be able to tie most nymphs.  Invent your own patterns!  Gold Ribbed Mink Stole… –jim

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i have recently aquirred a tremendous amount of fur due to the fact  we live down the road from a furrier. i was wondering if anyone had any pattern recipes for some of this fur . Some of it is red fox silver fox, norwegian wolf, otter, beaver, mink, raccoon, oppossum, muskrat sa well as others i cant determine. As of the moment i have no dry hackle and an abundance of this fur so i am tying patterns that exclusively call for it. the dubbing needless to say is varied and tremendous — gp

I got your messages.  Drop a not on my email directly. Lenny Bloksberg . .

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anyone have some good try fly patterns for fur and no dry hackle i have a tremendous amont of varied fur as i live near a furrier possum, beaver, mink, otter, wolf, fox, muskrat etc. thanks — gp

Zonkers, Bunny leaches, Kiwi Mudlers, These use patches of tanned hide with the hair on.  They are the easiest way I know of to use up lots of tanned hides with fur on.  Otherwise, TRADE!  I’m sure lots of folks would be happy to trade something they have in excess for your fur, myself included. . Lenny Bloksberg . .

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GP– sounds like a great find. You might try a fly called the Usual, It’s kind of a Comparadun/emerger cross. It uses guard and underfur tied up for a wing and underfur for dubbing. It also has guard hair for a tail. You might want to consider getting yourself a dry fly neck, you have some great dubbing for it (esp. the beaver otter and mukrat) if they haven’t been processed to much. Otherwise any of your furs would work for different nymph patterns.

Another thing he might consider doing is going into a flyfishing shop and see if they are interested in trading some of the fur for some hackle necks. Not all flyfishing shops will accept furs but some will.  Heck, he might be able to find some people here that would be willing to do some trades. Some might even be willing to purchase some of the fur from you outright and then he could use the money to buy some hackle necks. — John Fereira   "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA Viacom Cable Division

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Tie the Rhycophilia Caddis pupa (sp?).  It’ just a fur dubbed body.  Add some long hair to the head as legs.  All you need are some 200R or 205BL hooks. Substitute hair for tail, wingcase and legs in most patterns and you’ll be able to tie most nymphs.  Invent your own patterns!  Gold Ribbed Mink Stole…

So I’m not the only one that has looked at a woman wearing a fur and thought "look at all that fly tying material". — John Fereira   "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA Viacom Cable Division

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Looking for information on the upper Kings River, above Pine Flat dam. I read an earlier posting on the area around Courtright Res., and would love some specifics on that area, as I live very close.  What about the Bear Creek Diversion and above?  Any one have any comments and or experiences up in those parts?  Thanks in advance. Sean

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