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Ya know….For all the loathing you receive from this group, there is nobody here that discredits you more than you discredit yourself. Over, and over, and over again, you prove just how huge a fraud you really are. It’s simply stunning…Boggles the mind, really. /daytripper (You even make Clinton look honest…)

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Did you copyright it?  If so, I’d have the legal team of Bert, Ernie, and Oscar look into it…

I looked back on this, and it occurred to me that some might have thought I was making light of Charlie’s notice of G’s hanky-panky regarding his report.  In case there is any doubt, I meant to satire George’s "copyright" signature nonsense in _his_ posts contrasted with his willingness to completely ignore the intended purposes and even the copyrights on the work, including books, of others.  The fact that he has misrepresented, or plagiarized outright, others’ writings should come as no surprise. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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"I purchased a Gehrke bamboo rod in October of 1999 and wrote a long and thoughtful review of the rod. It was a decent rod despite a few cosmetic flaws (wrap gaps, spotty varnish, dirtiness beneath the varnish primarily at the nodes, use of epoxy instead of varnish on the wraps). Regardless, the rod was arguably worth the $383 despite its imperfections.

Or about the price of a used Granger in decent condition? While it would be a used rod, it would likely be free of the sort of imperfections you encountered. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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Reminds me of Arnold J. Rimmer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — http://www.gink.com/cgi-bin/guestbook/igb.cgi

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)) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Reminds me of Arnold J. Rimmer. — http://www.gink.com/cgi-bin/guestbook/igb.cgi

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Did you copyright it?  If so, I’d have the legal team of Bert, Ernie, and Oscar look into it…

Well, it seems he got a few people to go to his site, maybe it was in danger of fading away unless somebody looked (does a web site exist if nobody visits?). <g — Charlie…

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No Dave it is AM(Almost M).Gink ain’t got what it takes to produce true FM.  For Flyfishers only: A bottle of Gink to make ‘em stink,A bottle of wine to make ‘em shine. — Don Thompson Another Thompson Scion

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Zimbo writes: I find it very curious that several of the entries in the guestbook seem to have been written over a year ago but magically appeared within a one-day span several days ago. I also find it interesting that despite there being a 25 character minimum size limit for a comment, many of the entries are fewer than 25 characters. It would seem unethical to transcribe dated testimonials to make them appear to be guestbook entries. It’s FM, Zim. Dave

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George, Are we boasting or doing a little self promotion? Isn’t it amazing how 18 people from around the country all post testamonials within 40 minutes of each other. Paul

I find it amazing that Charlie Wilson just got back from the Western Clave…. what a trout bum! I don’t find it amazing at all that the crazed p.t. barnum lunatic of flyfishing did this…. kinda follows his pattern…. lies, lies, and more lies…. –walt

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I find it amazing that Charlie Wilson just got back from the Western Clave…. what a trout bum!

    I found it amazing that the product report I posted to roff appeared on a commercial site…..

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I find it amazing that Charlie Wilson just got back from the Western Clave…. what a trout bum!     I found it amazing that the product report I posted to roff appeared on a commercial site…..

there is that little, perchance illegal, indescretion. –walt

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I find it amazing that Charlie Wilson just got back from the Western Clave…. what a trout bum!    I found it amazing that the product report I posted to roff appeared on a commercial site…..

Did you copyright it?  If so, I’d have the legal team of Bert, Ernie, and Oscar look into it… TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Did you copyright it?  If so, I’d have the legal team of Bert, Ernie, and Oscar look into it…

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Zimbo writes: I find it very curious that several of the entries in the guestbook seem to have been written over a year ago but magically appeared within a one-day span several days ago. I also find it interesting that despite there being a 25 character minimum size limit for a comment, many of the entries are fewer than 25 characters. It would seem unethical to transcribe dated testimonials to make them appear to be guestbook entries.

It’s FM, Zim. Dave

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Did you copyright it?  If so, I’d have the legal team of Bert, Ernie, and Oscar look into it…

Well, as a last resort, you could duelly reprot him to his ISP…. TC, R

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– http://www.gink.com/cgi-bin/guestbook/igb.cgi

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George, Are we boasting or doing a little self promotion? Isn’t it amazing how 18 people from around the country all post testamonials within 40 minutes of each other. Paul

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I find it very curious that several of the entries in the guestbook seem to have been written over a year ago but magically appeared within a one-day span several days ago. I also find it interesting that despite there being a 25 character minimum size limit for a comment, many of the entries are fewer than 25 characters. It would seem unethical to transcribe dated testimonials to make them appear to be guestbook entries. Since I’m quite certain my guestbook entry dated "Apr 5, 2001 – 04:18:42" will be promptly removed from Mr. Gehrke’s site, I have copied it in its entirety and included it here: "I purchased a Gehrke bamboo rod in October of 1999 and wrote a long and thoughtful review of the rod. It was a decent rod despite a few cosmetic flaws (wrap gaps, spotty varnish, dirtiness beneath the varnish primarily at the nodes, use of epoxy instead of varnish on the wraps). Regardless, the rod was arguably worth the $383 despite its imperfections. However, after receiving my rod several of my friends received rods in much poorer condition than mine. In fact, Mr. Gehrke actually had the brazen gall to send the same defective rod to several different individuals. When they returned the rod, he would become angry and make disparaging personal remarks about them on a the fly fishing newsgroup. He would then simply send the same rod to another unsuspecting individual. Mr. Gehrke’s dishonesty and misrepresentation combined with the $100 increased price for the model of rod I purchased make the product one I definitely do NOT recommend. Let the buyer beware." –Steve Zimmerman

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Sounds terrific but I do have a question. If i can’t see very well anyway do these still need to be tied in the dark. I’ll wait for your answer. Thanks Larry

Absolutely!  That is why the flys appear way out of proportion to a seasoned fly tier.  The wings are too long to aid in locating the hook eye via touch.  The tail is too long to let you know which end has the eye.  The clump of feathers is tied around the hook to allow the fly to float no matter which way it lands on the water.  It often floats side- ways anyway. — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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Sounds terrific but I do have a question. If i can’t see very well anyway do these still need to be tied in the dark. I’ll wait for your answer. Meanwhile I am working to develop a fly that will penetrate up to 1 inch of ice to make the wait for spring a bit better. I am making progress but tend to snap the top 7 or 8 inches from my rods. Perhaps a smaller rod is the answer, I will keep you posted. Thanks Larry

A fourteen foot beachcaster, using a slightly modified pendulum cast, ( more or less straight up !! ), a  steel crash helmet and heavy kevlar shoulder padding, coupled with titanium reinforced body armour, ( in case "straight up" is taken too literally ),coupled with an eight ounce reversed squid pirk, with the tangs removed. Should do the trick. While practising at the week-end ( only with a six ounce reverse torpedo lead ), a guy from the local club, who reckoned he was a fair caster, asked to try my gear, as he had the pedulum cast which I was demonstrating to a few blokes from the local club, off to a fine art. Always willing to learn, I handed him my gear, warned him that the reel had neither magnetic nor air brakes, and that the bearings were oiled and adjusted for maximum free running, I handed him my gear, and moved to one side. One or two of the spectators, obviously acquainted with the talents of our worthy, made a few comments to the effect of "Give it some welly Dave", "Go on Dave, show him how its done", and similar encouraging remarks. Spurred on by this, and after a few moments of silent concentration, Dave reached out with the rod, rose to his full height, and began to whirl at considerable speed. Pirouetting with the consummate grace of a world class ballet dancer, rising up on his toes, and simultaneously heaving with the sheer brute force of a professional hammer thrower, issuing a long and ululating grunt which would have shamed a raging gorrila into immediate submission,  he blasted off a cast which would surely have been close to a world record, if only it had gone forwards, carrying the line with it.  However, due to a slight miscalculation on his part ( The technical term for this particular miscalculation,  is apparently, "F&%

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Added note, from an email:       Hall of the Mountain King:      Howard Snyder       White Winds:                    Joe Wilcox If you have problems, I first read Snyder in

the 70s from a library loan and now I own both just because of this group, try Chessler in CO. Panel 7 issue. Every one should go out this weekend.  NO posting. You guys are all too tired to be here.  You

guys are snapping at each other too much. I love it, Eugene!  You are absolutely right!

I’m reading this on Friday the 11th and did go out last weekend and had a

lovely time hiking on a beautiful trail with absolutely no other hikers

on it.  Eat your hearts out, guys! I’m outta here. Marcy should be the only one posting here over the weekend. hey there fellow hikers.. I just moved to LA

from oregon and it was a total shock.. My Nature life completely disappeared or so i thought.. for the first couple of months here i couldn’t find any trails to hike and was about to leave due to mountain separation anxiety…i went into a 7- Eleven to get a coke and saw the coolest free Magazine ever.. its called StreetZebra.. All about sports and they even have a section dedicated solely to my love.. HIKING.. they also said there was a web site so i checked it out and sure enough they gave trail suggestions and locations…. it changed my whole outlook on living in this over populated city..if you are in the same situation i strongly suggest checking it out.. www.streetzebra.com Before you buy.

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Every one should go out this weekend.  NO posting. You guys are all too tired to be here.  You guys are snapping at each other too much. I love it, Eugene!  You are absolutely right!  I’m reading this on Friday the 11th and did go out last weekend and had a lovely time hiking on a beautiful trail with absolutely no other hikers on it.  Eat your hearts out, guys!

It needs to be repeated. I think I posted that on Aug. 4.  It’s now Aug. 18. Some people take this group, too seriously. Like it’s rec.scouting.usa or something. I’m outta here.

I’m outta here.

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hey there fellow hikers.. I just moved to LA from oregon and it was a total shock.. My Nature life completely disappeared or so i thought.. for the first couple of months here i couldn’t find

Months?! any trails to hike and was about to leave due to mountain separation anxiety…i went into a 7- Eleven to get a coke and saw the coolest free Magazine ever…

There’s tons of outdoor activities around Portland. The only thing lacking is easy to moderate granite and maybe a slight excess of mold.  And a lack of powder. Study maps people! 8^)

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My Nature life completely disappeared or so i thought.. for the first couple of months here i couldn’t find Months?!

‘Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood When blackness was a virtue and the road was full of mud I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form. And if I pass this way again, you can rest assured I’ll always do my best for her, on that I give my word In a world of steel-eyed death, and men who are fighting to be warm. Not a word was spoke between us, there was little risk involved Everything up to that point had been left unresolved. Try imagining a place where it’s always safe and warm. I was burned out from exhaustion, buried in the hail, Poisoned in the bushes an’ blown out on the trail, Hunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn. Suddenly I turned around and she was standin’ there With silver bracelets on her wrists and flowers in her hair. She walked up to me so gracefully and took my crown of thorns. Now there’s a wall between us, somethin’ there’s been lost I took too much for granted, got my signals crossed. Just to think that it all began on a long-forgotten morn. Well, the deputy walks on hard nails and the preacher rides a mount But nothing really matters much, it’s doom alone that counts And the one-eyed undertaker, he blows a futile horn. I’ve heard newborn babies wailin’ like a mournin’ dove And old men with broken teeth stranded without love. Do I understand your question, man, is it hopeless and forlorn? In a little hilltop village, they gambled for my clothes I bargained for salvation an’ they gave me a lethal dose. I offered up my innocence and got repaid with scorn. Well, I’m livin’ in a foreign country but I’m bound to cross the line Beauty walks a razor’s edge, someday I’ll make it mine. If I could only turn back the clock to when God and her were born. "Come in," she said, "I’ll give you shelter from the storm."

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If I could only turn back the clock to when God and her were born. "Come in," she said, "I’ll give you shelter from the storm."

Yeah, but I like standing in storms.

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Study maps people! 8^)

   The best trips I have ever had were ones planned using maps, books and a desire to explore on my own. They haven’t come from someone telling me about a certain area.    If I would’ve had someone hold my hand, it would have taken all the fun out of it.    The summit of the highest peak in WY took us two tries with each being a week long vacation. I didn’t feel that the first failure to summit was a waste of a vacation and when we finally did make it, it was that much more rewarding.    Sometimes I wish there were no maps, books or trails.    Ed Huesers    http://www.grandshelters.com

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  The best trips I have ever had were ones planned using maps, books and a desire to explore on my own. They haven’t come from someone telling me about a certain area.

I am hoping that my trip to the Alps in December will be my next "best" trip.  Unless I get called to the Ross ice sheet again as an alternate. I had a great trip once, coming back from Lake Tahoe I looked across the Center Valley and saw snowy Coastal Range Peaks.  Not bold great peaks, but interesting unrated mountains.  The trip was some months after that first sight, but it was the sight that set the trip in motion.   If I would’ve had someone hold my hand, it would have taken all the fun out of it.

Find the book         Mountains w/o Hand Rails         by Joe Sax (UCB’s law school) There’s a lot of novices who unfortunately for themselves fool themselves into thinking they have fun.  They would argue that fun is a diversity of experience: this is a gross generalization and only somewhat true.  I had a couple of guys who were roommates like this. My friend and editor Martha who used to post in this group thinks she is like this, but I really think Martha is at heart an outdoor person (only I’m not in Portland to take her out every weekend on trips). I thought of a 3rd friend (F) who is a poser.  These guys kind of think its some sort of status thing, and it’s not unless you rake in bucks for doing a trip (which as a guide is a nice thing).  The only business is repeat business.   The summit of the highest peak in WY took us two tries with each being a week long vacation. I didn’t feel that the first failure to summit was a waste of a vacation and when we finally did make it, it was that much more rewarding.

Yeah, I took two different trips to get up the v-notch, 3 trips to get up Charlotte dome, etc.  Gross, for instance, is very insistent upon summit success.  I’ve bailed on hard technical climbs, so I have less an investment threshold for bailing (failing).  I can come back or skip. I don’t tally lists.  I’m more interested in coming back alive.   Sometimes I wish there were no maps, books or trails.

Well, I’ve had training as a cartographer and a photogrammetrist. The issue isn’t maps or books.  And I think about wandering around alone on the Ross Ice sheet (I got to the state where I was allowed to travel alone (had to carry a radio), a reasonable state of trust). Ilana when she was with the group is now preparing to sail around the world in a small boat.  You can gain some of that in a small boat. Just head out into open ocean and jump into the water.  If that doesn’t scare you, you don’t know enough yet.  Another good one is looking at swells which tower over your boat.  Combine that with climbing and that’s how Chouinard’s days are spent. It’s your own attitude.  It’s what’s inside your head, and your collection of good buddies whom you trust on ski trips or flying the bush, or whatever.  When I think about some of my favorite trips and my best buddies and partners, I know I’m part of having a good time.

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Added note, from an email:    Hall of the Mountain King:      Howard Snyder    White Winds:                    Joe Wilcox If you have problems, I first read Snyder in the 70s from a library loan and now I own both just because of this group, try Chessler in CO. Panel 7 issue. Every one should go out this weekend.  NO posting. You guys are all too tired to be here.  You guys are snapping at each other too much.

I love it, Eugene!  You are absolutely right!  I’m reading this on Friday the 11th and did go out last weekend and had a lovely time hiking on a beautiful trail with absolutely no other hikers on it.  Eat your hearts out, guys! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m outta here. Marcy should be the only one posting here over the weekend.

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Has anyone written an account of hiking the Pacific Crest trail?  

The High Adventure of Eric Ryback (quite controversial). water under the bridge. Consider The Thousand Mile Summer (1958, too) by Colin Fletcher and it’s NOT the Muir trail.  I’m not as nearly enthralled with Man Who Walked through Time.  Others like it.

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Added note, from an email:         Hall of the Mountain King:      Howard Snyder         White Winds:                    Joe Wilcox If you have problems, I first read Snyder in the 70s from a library loan and now I own both just because of this group, try Chessler in CO. Panel 7 issue. Every one should go out this weekend.  NO posting. You guys are all too tired to be here.  You guys are snapping at each other too much. I’m outta here. Marcy should be the only one posting here over the weekend.

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The High Adventure of Eric Ryback (quite controversial). water under the bridge.

What’s the controversy? It’s certainly ignored, I’ve noticed in subsequent books/articles. Like the trip never happened.

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I’m curious to hear what others thought about Bill Bryson’s book, "A Walk in the Woods."

It was entertaining.  I wouldn’t look too deeply into it to try to use it as an ethical, moral, or how-to hiking guide.  When you read "The Bronx Zoo" or "Ball Four" you really don’t expect to read about baseball fundamentals or how baseball teams should comport themselves. started off on the trail without much experience and then didn’t even complete (or come close to) what he set out to do.  

So completion is the criteria for compelling prose?  Don’t read anything from Shackleton. Sometimes the best way to illustrate the right way to do things is to embellish the wrong way to do them. Steve Silberberg Visit the Air Sickness Bag Museum http://www.airsicknessbags.com/ FACT:  Buff Babes Dig Cut Dudes!

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The most offensive part of the book was Bryson’s friend Katz

The book pretty much WAS Katz, or rather the interaction between Katz and the author. I laughed out loud a number of times (though I frequently had suspicions of gross fictionalization). Book wasn’t much about the AT, or backpacking, or the outdoors at all. But I thought Katz was a hoot.

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I could never finish "The Living," even though I really like Dillard’s books. It just seemed so depressing when the characters kept dying off — but I guess that was, to a point, the reality of life in the pioneer days… Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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I’m curious to hear what others thought about Bill Bryson’s book, "A Walk in the Woods."

Has anyone written an account of hiking the Pacific Crest trail?   Not a guidebook, but something akin to "walk in the woods". Phil

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There are so many good books… Edward Abbey comes to mind, especially "Desert Solitaire". Nelson’s "The Island" is good, too. There are always classics, too, like "Wild Animals I Have Known" and "A Sand County Almanac". Annie Dillard’s "A Pilgrim at Tinker Creek" is an incredible book, but not exactly light reading. There is a series of books out with collections of essays/extracts from books with common themes. I have read one called "Wild" that is good, and would like to read the others, too. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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I am a newbie, but the best books I have read about outdoors,wildlife were by Helen Hoover–I got them thru the local library–Gift of the Deer was one–she had several-they took place in the northwoods of MN–awesome books      theo God is good–for sure!!!!!!

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"Endurance" the story of Shackleton’s "adventure" in the antarctic; just about any book by Farley Mowat. "A Walk in the Woods", Bryson’s story of "thru-hiking" the AT. Several mountaineering books, including "The White Spider", "Annapurna", "Touching the Void".

I’m curious to hear what others thought about Bill Bryson’s book, "A Walk in the Woods."  Personally, I found it very disappointing that he was given a publisher’s advance to write the book, went out and bought a lot of expensive equipment, started off on the trail without much experience and then didn’t even complete (or come close to) what he set out to do.  (And his book was still a best-seller).  The most offensive part of the book was Bryson’s friend Katz, who decided he didn’t want to carry so much weight and dumped out half the contents of his backpack along the AT.  Perhaps this was just part of Bryson’s style of humor, but since most of the people buying his book probably have not ever been in the backcountry, it certainly doesn’t set a good example! As for books set in the Pacific NW, "The Living", by Annie Dillard is a fictional account of the early settlers in NW Washington state (around Bellingham and the Nooksak River).  For me, it was a little tough to get through at times, but she really captures the feel of the landscape and the hardships the pioneers endured. Anita Vasavada

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Do you have any recommendations for good books about the outdoors?  Western settings preferred.  Pacific northwest settings best.

Oh, there. Well, you might want to look at Dee Molnaar’s (sp) books. Find The Mountaineers web site.  They publish a whole bunch. Contact Elliot Bay Books.  Fred Beckey has a few books, mostly guidebooks, but not all, which are useful.  I have not seen Fred in years. Books like Challenge of the North Cascades (DM), Prater has a snowshoeing book. Depends what you want to read: climbing, history, The Dharma Bums ends in the North Cascades.  Scan the REI book rack. I’m not really into fiction anymore.  Usually. Considering Alaska, I really liked -148F, that’s the title  Minus 148. By Art Davidson.  I read it one day in a sign huge push and it was as good as Endurance in many ways.  The crux is about dinner time (when they guys were pinned down in a snow cave for a week). Art’s 3rd book, In the Wake of the Exxon Valdez is also good. ‘And the oil companies rotated in their executives, and they had names like "Bubba" and "Skitter."’ Panel 28 topic. Oh, another two Denali books are In the Hall of the Mountain King and White Winds.  Give serious thought as to which to read first: chronological publication date, coin flip, or author alphabetic order. Same trip.

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"Endurance" the story of Shackleton’s "adventure" in the antarctic; just about any book by Farley Mowat.

Farley Mowat … hmmmn … just remember to treat it as fiction or altered non-fiction.

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"Endurance" the story of Shackleton’s "adventure" in the antarctic;

There’s also, "To the Pole in the Footsteps of Shackleton" or something like that.  It’s definitely not western US though. Steve Silberberg Visit the Air Sickness Bag Museum http://www.airsicknessbags.com/ FACT:  Buff Babes Dig Cut Dudes!

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"Endurance" the story of Shackleton’s "adventure" in the antarctic;

I can’t resist gushing over this book.  Everyone should read it.  Events stranger than any fiction are in this story.  Exceptional writing. Phil

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I’m a northwest native stranded out here in the prairie and chained to a desk working on my PhD.  Hence, I have no wilderness to go to and I relish good books about the outdoors.  Recently, I’ve enjoyed books by Richard Nelson, and Byron Ricks’ account of a trip down the inside passage. Do you have any recommendations for good books about the outdoors?  Western settings preferred.  Pacific northwest settings best.  Fiction and non-fiction recommendations welcome.

        Offhand can’t think about any/many with Western/PacNW settings, except perhaps for anything by John Gierach who writes about fly-fishing mostly in Colorado/Montana, etc. But as for other stuff "The Arctic Grail" by Pierre Berton is a wonderful book about the exploration of the Arctic. Kind of reminded me of "The White Nile" and "The Blue Nile" by Alan Moorhead from the 50’s or early 60’s which are drop-dead wonderful.         Also, ever hear of a guy named Redmond O’Hanlon? Writes (or at least used to write) the London Times’ column on nature. First book

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There is no upper platt river in colorado you idiot… — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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Hey Loser, I went to the web site and it says you are supposed to make $5000/week. You didn’t even make half that.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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Make that 20 pounds, please – at least, with another 30 pounds to rub your fat spam face in! (not you Wayno!) David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/         rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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I love it – we all go to the web site and then comment here.  The loser spams all the NGs automatically and never looks at the responses 9 I think they are probably predictable!).  He sucks up the email addresses and sells them on (or tries, because like him we have spam robot-proofed our email addresses!).  Oh well it made me feel better having a go at him.  OTOH at least he could have said ‘while I was fly fishing…..’ cheers David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Loser, I went to the web site and it says you are supposed to make $5000/week. You didn’t even make half that. and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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I made 200000 dollars last week while others where fly fishing…I stole a bunch of their cars…. who cooks up these schemes? edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/         rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

        rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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I don’t want to sully the newsgroup with "tell me where’ stuff, but I have a special request of sorts.  I recently remarried a CA lady whose roots are in the East bay area.  We are going to visit her sister in June and her (now my…) 10 yr old nephew really wants to learn to fly fish. I’m a PA boy and know nothing of the area.  Anyone who can give me a location where a kid can catch a few bluegills (or whatever) from shore on flies within an hour or so of Walnut Creek/Richmond/El Sobrante CA, please let me know so I can take the kid fishing. I believe if we don’t set the next generation on fire for the water and the sport, all else we do is beside the point.  If you have any ideas, please post them here or email me. Help me save a kid from video games and the gawdamn web.   All responses appreciated. Thanks so much. Bob  

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I looked through some of my CA fishing books, and San Pablo Resirvoir near Berkeley may be a good bet. I’ve never fish there, so you will have to scout out the location and make a determination. Borders sells a couple of books on CA fishing, and one of them is called "Fresh Water Fishing in California" you might want to check out. it has maps and detailed descriptions of techniques and setups. You can also try calling your local tackle store for local info. There is also a SF radio show at 6am on sunday mornings on the 680 AM dial that has fishing reports for the CA and southern Oregon areas. I often DX on my HF rig from Portland area on sunday mornings to follow the striper reports in SF Bay and and Coos Bay. Try calling in and ask! Good Luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t want to sully the newsgroup with "tell me where’ stuff, but I have a special request of sorts.  I recently remarried a CA lady whose roots are in the East bay area.  We are going to visit her sister in June and her (now my…) 10 yr old nephew really wants to learn to fly fish. I’m a PA boy and know nothing of the area.  Anyone who can give me a location where a kid can catch a few bluegills (or whatever) from shore on flies within an hour or so of Walnut Creek/Richmond/El Sobrante CA, please let me know so I can take the kid fishing. I believe if we don’t set the next generation on fire for the water and the sport, all else we do is beside the point.  If you have any ideas, please post them here or email me. Help me save a kid from video games and the gawdamn web.   All responses appreciated. Thanks so much. Bob  

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I looked through some of my CA fishing books, and San Pablo Resirvoir near Berkeley may be a good bet. I’ve never fish there, so you will have to scout out the location and make a determination.

Yes, San Pablo Reservoir is excellent, although you might want to consider renting a boat there since the best fishing tends to be on the far side (of course…) of the reservoir, or at the ends.  Most of the bank fishing near the public access tends to be Power Bait fishing for trout. Also, I think it’s maybe better for a kid to be flyfishing from a boat since there is less likelihood of getting snagged in trees and bushes. (At least that’s true for me!) You can also look into Del Valle Reservoir, Shadow Cliffs, and Lake Chabot, all probably not more than 30 minutes away. Borders sells a couple of books on CA fishing, and one of them is called "Fresh Water Fishing in California" you might want to check out. it has maps and detailed descriptions of techniques and setups. You can also try calling your local tackle store for local info.

The best all around guidebook, by far, IMHO, is California Fishing, by Tom Stienstra, published by Foghorn Press.  Not only are there descriptions and maps, but fishing quality ratings as well. Richard Morrison Menlo Park, CA

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You may want to try Lafayette Reservoir too … Bassing Lake Berryessa … and the Delta has lots of locations for fun fishing … John

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I don’t want to sully the newsgroup with "tell me where’ stuff, but I have a special request of sorts.  I recently remarried a CA lady whose roots are in the East bay area.  We are going to visit her sister in June and her (now my…) 10 yr old nephew really wants to learn to fly fish. I’m a PA boy and know nothing of the area.  Anyone who can give me a location where a kid can catch a few bluegills (or whatever) from shore on flies within an hour or so of Walnut Creek/Richmond/El Sobrante CA, please let me know so I can take the kid fishing. All responses appreciated. Thanks so much. Bob

   At 10, if he’s fished at all, he knows where the spots are. It’s basically just a change of gear and tactics. I still fish my mother in laws favorite fishing hole, I guess I was kinda her favorite because I would go fishing with her, she loved to fish.                                                          John Popp                                                       in Sanford Fl.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t want to sully the newsgroup with "tell me where’ stuff, but I have a special request of sorts.  I recently remarried a CA lady whose roots are in the East bay area.  We are going to visit her sister in June and her (now my…) 10 yr old nephew really wants to learn to fly fish. I’m a PA boy and know nothing of the area.  Anyone who can give me a location where a kid can catch a few bluegills (or whatever) from shore on flies within an hour or so of Walnut Creek/Richmond/El Sobrante CA, please let me know so I can take the kid fishing. I believe if we don’t set the next generation on fire for the water and the sport, all else we do is beside the point.  If you have any ideas, please post them here or email me. Help me save a kid from video games and the gawdamn web. All responses appreciated. Thanks so much. Bob

Aloha Bob,   Check out http://usafishing.com for California fishing reports and check out the links California Lakes, Central Valley Rivers, and Delta Report.  The Delta (north of Tracy) is fun for Stripers and Largemouth, Lake Chabot was okay though slow at times.  Del Valle and San Pedro are great IF you have a boat.  The most fun I had was fishing a stream in Rancho Murrieta outside of Sacremento for all kinds of panfish, sorry but don’t recall the name of the stream but it was the only one in the area. Spy in Hawaii

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I live in Eastern Mass. and am looking for a good spot for Flyfishing. Any recommendations?

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I live in Eastern Mass. and am looking for a good spot for Flyfishing. Any recommendations?

Try Walden and White pond for trout The Mystics for bass and pikerel. Any river off the North shore for stripers and bluefish Email me for more specifics Bubba B

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Hi and thanks for the replies. To clarify, he will start at Moose Lake, travel through Knife Lake and then loop back. StephenC.

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Hi,         I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC.

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Hi,    I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC.

Stephen: Primary species are smallmouth bass, northern pike, and walleyes.  Best lures (in my experience) are Rapalas (floating and Shad Raps) and Mepps spinners for northerns and smallmouths, grub, marabou, and bucktail jigs for the walleyes. I believe it is still true that live minnows (or live baitfish of any kind) are illegal.  Live nightcrawlers, however, are legal and very effective for smallies and for walleyes. If you are so inclined, flyfishing can be very productive.  Big, flashy things like Deceivers, Clouser minnows, and flashy streamers work well for pike and wooly buggers, muddlers, and damselfly nymphs will work for the smallmouths.  Also, deerhair mice can work EXTREMELY well for bass in the morning and evening, and you may get surprised by a big pike. Hope your friend has fun, it is a beautiful part of the world. Good luck, Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,       I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC. Stephen: Primary species are smallmouth bass, northern pike, and walleyes.  Best lures (in my experience) are Rapalas (floating and Shad Raps) and Mepps spinners for northerns and smallmouths, grub, marabou, and bucktail jigs for the walleyes.

Huh? I would have said the primary species are rainbow, brook, splake and lake trout. I guess we hang out in different neighborhoods. Lance

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Man, you guys over there in the good ole US of A don’t know what you’re missin’ out on!! Seriously though some excellent fly-fishing is to be had in Tassie. My favourite moments are those when the fish is poking around in 4 inchs of water, spotted back and dorsals breaking the surface. The fish’s window of vision is so small the fly needs to land right in the fish’s path. Too close and the fish is spooked, too far and the fish won’t even notice the fly. I’ve spent up to two hours on a single fish until finally setting the hook. If you fancy a bit of polaroiding then Tassie’s sandy bottom lakes will make you happy (although their not all sandy bottomed!!!!). Large fish up to around 8 pounds cruise around in these crystal clear waters, some tarns are not bigger than an average family’s block of land. If you don’t mind inching your way around on your stomach trying to fool a brown, then Tassie is place for your next visit. Just remember Got any questions about Tassie then read a book! or ask ME..I live in Melbourne which just across bass strait for those of you not familiar. Tassie’s nice but I wouldn’t live there. By the way I am looking for female fly-fishing penfriends….leave a message and I’ll get back. Mark

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Man, you guys over there in the good ole US of A don’t know what you’re missin’ out on!! Seriously though some excellent fly-fishing is to be had in Tassie. Got any questions about Tassie then read a book! or ask ME..I live in Melbourne which just across bass strait for those of you not familiar. Mark

Or you con contact me. I live in the US but my Father in Law is in Tazzie and is Currently the President of Fly Fish Australia. Malcom (his name) and I are in the planning stage of arranging holiday packages for the fly fisherman who would like to try some of the BEST fishing in the world, Anyone interested should contact me, as he is not yet on the net, but we’re working on it. Thanks.

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Planning a Memorial Day Weekend trip to the Housatonic and have never fished the area.  Looking for help regarding spots and hatches.  Will be staying at Housatonic Meadows State park.   Thanks and Tight Lines! — MICHAEL DeVERE

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Michael, From your campground at Housatonic Meadows North on Route 7 to the Covered Bridge in Cornwall is the entire Trout Management Area.  Anyplace you see a spot where you can squeeze in a car, on either side of the road,  will get you to the River.  Many people like the pool just below the covered bridge, but I have found the entire stretch excellent. The CT State Hatchery is stocking 9,000 Trout into this section on May 22.  This will add to an already abundant, but wise, population. Caddis Flys (Green, Black, Cream, Tan, Brown & Grey) seem to be big producers this week.  Also Caddis Emergers fished in the film are doing well. Look for Ephemerella Dorothea (Little Sulphur in about a size 16) to be hatching during your stay. Good luck. Greg Greg

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Planning a Memorial Day Weekend trip to the Housatonic and have never fished the area.  Looking for help regarding spots and hatches.

The Housie has lots of hatches. Baetus, brown and green caddis (#14-16), maybe March Browns, Green and Brown Drakes if you’re lucky, are all likely to be present. Figuring out what the trout are working on is the biggest challenge. There are lots of trout, virtually all stocked fish, despite fishkills in recent years brought about by hot water and poor water management. River flows are controlled by releases from a power dam, which is operated on weekends primarily for the benefit of canoeists and kayakers. This generally means high water difficult to fish from 9AM to 5PM. One strategy is to fish the north end of the Trout Management Area (about a mile or so above the covered bridge and best accessed from the east side) early in the AM, and move downstream as the water there starts to rise between 8 and 8:30, ending up at the south end around 10 or 10:30, and repeat the trip in the late afternoon. The daily rise and fall of water flow tends to put the trout down during the transition. The Housie gets a lot of fishing pressure, but one can almost always find areas that are not crowded, and it offers a good variety of conditions, from fast pockets to smooth pools.  Check in with Phil at the Housatonic Meadows Fly Shop on Rte 7; take his recommendations with a grain of salt, but he does know the river.

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There’s a fly shop right opposite the campgrounds with good info and excellent local ties although my recollection is that proprietor is a little close mouthed until your wallet becomes visible. A;lso call river club info number for daily updates by the most knowledgeable Ed Kluck who records report daily. 203 248 8616. Also water releases tape # is 203 824 7053. Note that it takes two hours for head of water to reach the campground from the time the release starts at dam at Falls Village.

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: I’m thinking about a first trip to the San Juan this fall or next spring. : When’s the best dry fly fishing? Chris, Absolutely the best dry fly fishing I ever had on the San Juan was in mid-September a few years back over a Pale Morning Dun hatch.  I have been back a few years at the same time but have never caught it that way again. Baetis and midges hatch pretty much anytime conditions are right (overcast) regardless of time of year. Plan to fish some nymphs. Chuck

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I’m thinking about a first trip to the San Juan this fall or next spring. When’s the best dry fly fishing? Chris Long Long Island, New York

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