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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

I’d love to get over there, but at this time I can’t make any plan’s. I’ll let you know closer to the time if I’m going to make it. Darin

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I’m going.  Don’t know the detail just yet.   Is that a three day weekend? If so we may go and see how the rich and famous in Bellevue live.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

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Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

There’s no such thing as a free ATV ride!  Just ask Ken F. Op  –marked for life–

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed– It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

You’re just itchin’ for a fight, aren’t you? Op  –none too prissy to kick a rats ass-kisser–

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC. Op  –really, I’m quite harmless–

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC.

Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period.

Dang!  Opie sent the good one to the guy with the camera!  Why didn’t I think of that??

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

I assume you finally got mine then.  Fine with me, thanks.

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

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Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

I just got Mu’s flyz on Sat. Willi, but still ain’t got my big swap flyz? Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though? Mu

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it.

Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though?

Thanks, Mu.  Yes, there should be six. JR

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.

How strange.  How did the east coast guys get my flies before you and Willi?  Also how did I get Jeff & Opie’s flies about a week before you did? Mu

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

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I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:) I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:)

Nah. Just look at the ones going to organized RSG events. ‘Cept for Ken, who loves winning a bet with someone. Get back to playing, and enjoy the ~4 hours of therapy. I’m going for my session tomorrow (Where are you Thor?) -T- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

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Do people take golf too seriously?

Why, I should kill you for even asking such a silly question!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:)

In fly fishing, there’s a saying that maybe the mark of a fisherman should not be how big of a fish will satisfy him, but how small of a fish he can catch and be satisfied.  I suppose there’s something similar in golf.  Good luck, doesn’t work for me

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In fly fishing, there’s a saying that maybe the mark of a fisherman should not be how big of a fish will satisfy him, but how small of a fish he can catch and be satisfied.  

With me, probably anything with over a pound of filet in it. Last time I ever fished was 40 years from a boat in a like, caufgt zilch. I can’t remember if I ever caught a keeper in my life:) I read somewhere that fish often bite for people who smell good to them:) I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:) I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

 hey john what’s your POD, oops this isn’t shwi.  but seriously, do some people take golf too seriously, nah  cursing, throwing clubs is just their way of unwinding  bud

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Someone asked… Do people take golf too seriously? Well… I try… dsc

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Teresa please do yourself a great favor by reading the golfswinger course and practice what it teaches to the letter…exercise is important for your swing to work properly and naturally…get in shape and stay in shape. Tell me in 6 months that you are a low handicapper. Al http://golfswinger.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:) Nah. Just look at the ones going to organized RSG events. ‘Cept for Ken, who loves winning a bet with someone. Get back to playing, and enjoy the ~4 hours of therapy. I’m going for my session tomorrow (Where are you Thor?) -T- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

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Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? -T-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Teresa please do yourself a great favor by reading the golfswinger course and practice what it teaches to the letter…exercise is important for your swing to work properly and naturally…get in shape and stay in shape. Tell me in 6 months that you are a low handicapper. Al http://golfswinger.com I expect to take golf up again after a haitius of 25+ years. (The walking did me in:)) The plan is is to start off on weekdays at in the fall, on carts, by myself at a Publinx. I expect to have trouble breaking 200 for starters:) I expect though to get better if I stick with it. However I would not be suprised if I never get the equivilent of a 100 on a real hard championship course. But I am going to do it to enjoy myself and the nice weather when there is nice weather. (Dry, between 60 and 75 degrees, no wind, a little warmer with wind. I wonder if most people have lost the ability to enjoy some of life’s simpler pleasures? I wonder if it would happen to me?:) Nah. Just look at the ones going to organized RSG events. ‘Cept for Ken, who loves winning a bet with someone. Get back to playing, and enjoy the ~4 hours of therapy. I’m going for my session tomorrow (Where are you Thor?) -T- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend until YOUR DEATH your right to say it! –Austin 3:17 JOHN A. MONTGOMERY

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Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to?

He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. Hey Al, do us a favor…get lost. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm

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Come on, is it possible to take golf too seriously?

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Teresa please do yourself a great favor by reading the golfswinger course and practice what it teaches to the letter…exercise is important for your swing to work properly and naturally…get in shape and stay in shape. Tell me in 6 months that you are a low handicapper. Al

Buzz off with this crap Al!

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Oh I know…. I was trying to be a nice person instead of saying F&*^ off! When in doubt, kill them with kindness. -T-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. Hey Al, do us a favor…get lost. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm

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Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads.

I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer.  Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer.  Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer.  Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al "Jeff Connelly" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer. Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al

Is my server screwing up, or is Al losing it?  This seems like "Groundhog Day".

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I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****! Sincerely, -T-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al "Jeff Connelly" Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer. Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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Aw come on, tell him what you really think – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****! Sincerely, -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al "Jeff Connelly" in Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer. Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****! Sincerely, -T-

Nicely done!  Now I really hope to meet you at RSG DFW.  You not only look like Bruce Willis, you can cuss like him!

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Teresa……what balls do you play with? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****! Sincerely, -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al "Jeff Connelly" Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer. Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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I believe when she wrote "F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****!" she was attempting to put an end to your unsolicited advice.  Your question as to what balls she plays with seems to me to be a continuation of said adivce.  I get the feeling no matter what balls she uses you will tell her to read the golfswinger course.  Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to follow her suggestion… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Teresa……what balls do you play with? I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****! Sincerely, -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al "Jeff Connelly" Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. -T- You are most likely continuously correcting faults in the basis of your swing instead of learning how to have a great swing forever. Try it, it can’t hurt you. Simple and uncomplicated. It will only improve you. Show it to you "Professional" as I.I’m sure he too will benefit.Al Excuse me, sir, but I have a professional working with me on my game. I am afraid to listen to more than one teacher who might confuse what he is instructing me on. Thank you for your efforts. Secondly, what were you refering to? He’s referring to a website that he has promoted in no less than five different threads. I think she was being funny – referring to the old thread where a woman (different woman?) asked for advice for when somebody on the driving range tries to help with her swing and won’t take no for an answer. Teresa’s post is basically one of the replies that woman got

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Teresa……what balls do you play with? I’ve tried being nice, and you won’t get the hint. F*** OFF! I am not interested in your S****!

Al: You’re jacking with one of the favorite posters on this ng, and a super lady.  I suggest that you stop.   ___,     o        |       /      .   "Someone likes every shot" bk

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You guys REALLY need to get out more. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<<If you want to cast, but don’t feel like stringing up to cast in the snow of your yard.  Which has got to bad for the old flyline anyways, take a suitable length of 1/8" dowel (you can get this at the local hardware store.)  Usually about 2 to 3 feet.  Then take a length of backing, about 2x the length of your dowel, and tie it on one end. Instant fly casting gear that can be cast in your living room, without spending a whole lot of money. Sounds like the perfect thing for fishing the aquarium.

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<<If you want to cast, but don’t feel like stringing up to cast in the snow of your yard.  Which has got to bad for the old flyline anyways, take a suitable length of 1/8" dowel (you can get this at the local hardware store.)  Usually about 2 to 3 feet.  Then take a length of backing, about 2x the length of your dowel, and tie it on one end. Instant fly casting gear that can be cast in your living room, without spending a whole lot of money. Sounds like the perfect thing for fishing the aquarium.

Good idea. My guppies seem to be favoring a size 28 Adams, right now. Tim? Got any recipes?

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Sounds like the perfect thing for fishing the aquarium.

Or catfishing. For cats, that is. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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If you want to cast, but don’t feel like stringing up to cast in the snow of your yard.  Which has got to bad for the old flyline anyways, take a suitable length of 1/8" dowel (you can get this at the local hardware store.)  Usually about 2 to 3 feet.  Then take a length of backing, about 2x the length of your dowel, and tie it on one end. Instant fly casting gear that can be cast in your living room, without spending a whole lot of money.

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I pretty much expect my fly to sink on the firts cast or two, to me it seems after the inital wetting then shaking off the water (via-false casting) the fly will then float. Good Luck.

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Herman,    I think Dry Shake is just powdered desiccant.  Once your fly gets wet or slimed wash it off, use your Dry Shake and blow the powder off of the fly. Then treat it with a good floatant.  This has a law of diminishing returns though and you will eventually have to change the fly. Ernie Harrison Have you tried a Blood Knot Machine?  http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I found that Dry shake works great – for only a short time. Once dried, my fly is floating beautifully, after five minutes, it sinks like a stone. Goes Titanic, so to speak.. I quit using the stuff, use CDC flies mainly and dry them with with a flykerchief. Two false casts and ready to go.. Herman RW: <<I’ve been using Dry-Shake for soaked flies. Just dry them out as much as you can with false casting and/or a cloth or a paper towel, then use the Dry-Shake. It works great. No need to false cast or blot with anything, RW.  After a fly has been slimed by the fish, simply wash it off in the water, put it in a bottle of dessicant, shake, and voila, good as new. Dave L. — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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I found that Dry shake works great – for only a short time. Once dried, my fly is floating beautifully, after five minutes, it sinks like a stone. Goes Titanic, so to speak.. I quit using the stuff, use CDC flies mainly and dry them with with a flykerchief. Two false casts and ready to go.. Herman RW: <<I’ve been using Dry-Shake for soaked flies. Just dry them out as much as you can with false casting and/or a cloth or a paper towel, then use the Dry-Shake. It works great. No need to false cast or blot with anything, RW.  After a fly has been slimed by the fish, simply wash it off in the water, put it in a bottle of dessicant, shake, and voila, good as new. Dave L.

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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RW: <<I’ve been using Dry-Shake for soaked flies. Just dry them out as much as you can with false casting and/or a cloth or a paper towel, then use the Dry-Shake. It works great. No need to false cast or blot with anything, RW.  After a fly has been slimed by the fish, simply wash it off in the water, put it in a bottle of dessicant, shake, and voila, good as new. Dave L.

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Vern, I found Gink works best when allowed to dry completely.  This prevents the "sheen" on the water.  I also considered pre-coating my flys in the box before a trip but George recommended against it.  He says it can soften the hackles and make the dry flys less effective.  I have found that once a fly becomes really wet, applying Gink (or any floatant) seems to be ineffective.  I pat and blow dry (sling dry) the fly prior to re-coating.

I’ve been using Dry-Shake for soaked flies. Just dry them out as much as you can with false casting and/or a cloth or a paper towel, then use the Dry-Shake. It works great. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Vern, I found Gink works best when allowed to dry completely.  This prevents the "sheen" on the water.  I also considered pre-coating my flys in the box before a trip but George recommended against it.  He says it can soften the hackles and make the dry flys less effective.  I have found that once a fly becomes really wet, applying Gink (or any floatant) seems to be ineffective.  I pat and blow dry (sling dry) the fly prior to re-coating. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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I went to my local fly shop and bought a bottle of that famous stuff, "Gink."  On my way home I was hungry and decided to take my 4 year old to the IHOP.  As we were eating, I pulled out the little bottle from my shirt pocket. Popping the cap open I took a sniff.  There was no smell.  The bright yellow label was easy to read.  However, the information was uninformative and precocious as it claimed, "the most important product in any fly fisherman’s vest."  Though it might become the most important product in my vest, it isn’t yet. My four year old stabbed anther piece of egg with his fork as I poured a drop of Gink on the back of my hand.  It felt much like messuage oil.  It felt good on the back of my hand as I tried to rub it in.  It wouldn’t rub in.  The same amount of Gink remained on the back of my hand.  This is a good thing, I thought.  If it isn’t absorbed by my skin it becomes harder to effect my health. I pulled out two identical flies that I just bought at "Clearwater," my local fly shop and placed a little Gink on one fly.  The water glass was half empty so I poured a little water into an empty coffee cup and placed both flies on the water.  Both flies floated.  There was no difference. Okay, but what if the fly hits a little turbulence or pulled under water for a second or two?  Taking a toothpick, I pushed each one under water for exactly ten seconds.  Now, they both sunk.  I thought to my self, what good was this stuff?  Maybe, it wasn’t a fare test. I continued eating and cut the rest of my boy’s pancakes into bite size pieces.  After a short time, I decided to give Gink another test.  I dropped a single drop into the coffee cup of water.  I noticed that it stayed in one ball and then turned cloudy.  I took and touched the drop of Gink.  It had hardened.  I tried to sink the Gink, but it kept popping up to the surface. The little drop of Gink was very resilient and would not sink.  Something was definitely in this little bottle that floats. That’s when I noticed it.  A faint oily film hovered in the surface of water.  I don’t know what this stuff is, but it couldn’t be good for our rivers. I was now more intrigued than before.  I tore two small pieces of napkin and put Gink on one of them.  I then put both in the water and tried to sink them.  The piece of napkin without Gink instantly absorbed water, became soft, and sank.  The Gink piece of napkin wouldn’t sink, even after making a whirlpool and poking it several times.  However, the piece of napkin with Gink was stiff. Let’s try the flies one more time, I thought.  I put Gink on one more fly and performed the same test.  Again, the fly sunk even after holding it under water for one second.  Well, it didn’t completely sink.  The fly hovered at the top of the water just under the surface.  It was not on top of the water, it was under the water. I don’t know what this all means.  I’m going to have to try this Gink stuff Monday when go fishing on a new river, well new for me. Vern

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Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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I went with a guide a couple of years ago on the Quinault, looking for Kings. Fishing was just fair for most parties, although two of us stuck to our guns with flys and were fishless late in the afternoon. The guide finally hooked into a 20 lb King (he said it was a Steelhead, go figure) using a 6" dayglo orange flatfish. He handed me the rod and it was a lot of fun. So I would suggest big colorful streamers. Maybe even reeaally big, like a bunny bug in bright colors. Always have some dark ones too, especially purple. The 8wt will be ok for the Silvers and smaller Kings, but the Quinault has been know to produce 60lb Kings, so if you do hook one of those, god help you, and just hope that your party has the patience to wait an hour or more for you to land it, if it doesn’t break you off (or bust your rod!) Bring your rain gear and a thermos of hot coffee! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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Your setup sounds just right, I’de trust your guide but an october caddis in a 6 to 4 for a floating line and a kaufmans stone fly dark for a sink tip shooting head line for steelhead… fish the spots the guide recommends as the water will be all yours and very under fished, excellent choice… just a thought… I’de be glad to answer any other questions you may have at

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,    I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                        Ken

Hi Ken, I don’t know that river, but Oct is a great month to fish in the Northwest for steelhead. There might be some fall Kings, late Silvers and some Sea run Cutthroats too? I would have a floating line and a T-300 or similar line. Get some stiffer 71/2 foot 0x to 2x leaders and matching tippet material. Get some black flies like a Bunny Leeches, Egg Sucking Bugger or any black steelhead patterns. Get some bright colored flashing flies in orange or chartreuse. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

The only problem I had was with a barbed wire fence that was half buried. I just wanted to get them repaired, but Orvis replaced them. Otherwise, I have had about 2 years in two pairs, and have had no problems. The only thing I have to figure out is how to get the mud off of them. jim — Jim Jacoby Mt. Horeb, WI To send a reply, remove "-take_this_out-" from the address.

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

No.  But you said the magic word * Orvis *.  If you have *any* problem with them, even not liking them, Orvis will replace them.  I wore a pair of 3mm neoprenes for over a month of fishing in Maine and Labrador.  I should have bought the breathables and told my Orvis dealer about it.  He said to bring the neoprenes back and I could trade ‘em for breathables.  Neat!!!!  I’ve had no problems with them, but if I do, well Orvis is only about twenty minutes away. :0) Dave LaCourse

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I just purchased a pair of the breathable waders this past Christmas and have hd no problems with them yet.  I am hoping they will hold up pretty good Matt Rheams

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables?

the shop who sells it has problems: these waders are so affordable he’s not selling any of the expensive ones! =^) i’ve been using it for about 1.5 years now and it’s great. No punctures or leaks. Very comfy, but that’s with all breathables i guess. My idea was why pay 300+ bucks when you can get 2 of these, spreaded over many many years (if one wears out, just get a new one). Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

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writes: *SNIP* Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

For 1998 you can also get them in green.                       Good Fishing,                             Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools Mt. Shasta Fly Fishing Schools http://www.thegrid.net/flyfish

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? i’ve been using it for about 1.5 years now and it’s great. No punctures or leaks. Very comfy, but that’s with all breathables i guess. My idea was why pay 300+ bucks when you can get 2 of these, spreaded over many many years (if one wears out, just get a new one). Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

Except now they come in much better green color. I just bought mine a few weeks ago, and I may never wear my neoprenes again! I’m sure  I will in the winter, but I fished a week ago in about 40 degree weather in cold, tailwater water (not sure about exact water temp), and all I wore under mine was one layer of Patagonia Expedition Weight Capilene underwear. I stayed bone dry (even after hiking 1.5 mi., mostly on gravel — ugh), and I stayed surprisingly warm. I waited until they had been out for a year or so to get some, and I wish I had bought some of the first ones (though I really do prefer the new green color — much more natural-looking). SWJ

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Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color. For 1998 you can also get them in green.  

oh no…. why not just plain tan?…

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

Thanks for all your comments.  I’ve been very cautious about breathables as the local store has had a bad time with another brand. I’ve just contacted a local Orvis store about getting a set.  The green ones, SWJ.  Thanks for the heads up on the colour. Peter

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

Hi Brett, Welcome to Georgia. Let me know what part of the state you’re in and the type of fishing that interests you, and I’m sure I can give you some suggestions. Dave — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides Home Page http://www.olfart.com

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

There are a number of places to FF for trout. Not the wide open streams and rivers of the West, but plenty of fishing. Try North Georgia Trout On-line at http://www.efh.com/~ngtrout That should put you on the trail….. -John Carney

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I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone? Thanks for your help, Mike

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I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for

                                                        ^^^^^^ I’d suggest the Pacific, just for ease of access. — Derek R. Larson           Indiana University        Dept. of History                 "Nothing interesting occurred today…"         -Meriwether Lewis at Ft. Clatsop, Oregon, Jan.4th, 1806

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writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?

    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

I show that the number is 503-642-4570 for Glenn Young. Don Chen Mid-Willamette Fly Fishers (Corvallis, Oregon)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?     In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

You can contact Glenn at (503) 642-4570.  I’ve fished with Glenn a number of times and he is top notch and his rates are very reasonable. Be SURE to try the searun cutthroat–best fly rod fish in the state!! Paul

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That’s a pretty good time of year to try sight fishing to steelhead in the "skinny water" high up on any of the coastal rivers.   Greg in Albany – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

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   In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

Glenn Young’s number: Hackle and Hide Glenn Young  (503)642-4570

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Any west coast trail experts out there?  Please feel free to answer some, all, or none of these questions.  I have read the Sierra Club guidebook, now I’m looking for a little more personal and/or personal advice" (paraphrased quotation). I’m planning my trip in May.  Am I setting myself up for a lot of mud and rain? One book implied that the average rainfall in May is not too bad. If I hit the low tides I’m hoping to do a bunch of beach walking, so that might get rid of the mud.  Comments? I’ve got favorable tides (low tides in the afternoon) from May 13 That gives me, say, 8 days of reasonable tides for beach walking. My wife and I aren’t very good at getting up early, so an ideal tide would maybe reach it’s low at 15:00.  We’d then hike from 12:00 to 16:00 and not worry about getting caught by rising tides. It sounds like the southern section is where I’ll really apreciate low tides (to get around Owens pt, for example) so I’m thinking of flying or driving out to the Island on the 8th-10th, leaving the car in Victoria, taking the bus (or the bus and The Lady Rose) to Bamfield, starting to hike on the 12th.  Then if we spend the planned 10 days/9 nights we’ll get out on the 21st. That’ll give us the 21st/22nd to get to Victoria (is this hard?  Does the Knight Limousine Service still operate?) to reclaim our car and the 22nd to the 24th to drive back to Calgary (or fly back, sans car of course.) Sound reasonable? If you had 10 days to spend on the trail, how many of them would you hike?  Would you hike all 10 (an average of 7.5 km/day?) or would you spend a day or two in the middle somewhere just beachcoming and relaxing and seducing your spouse or S/O . (Is it *possible* to seduce your spouse or s/o if you’re both soaking wet from all the rain and you only have freeze-dried food?).  Where’s the best place for these sort of activities? Where’s the best fishing?  How can I find out more about the fishing? I’m not normally a fisherman, but hey, I’ve got 10 days.  And if I catch some fish I could even stretch our food supply to 11 or 12 days. How warm can I expect it to be? How hard is it *really* to cross Nitinat Narrows?  Does anyone actually ever have to wait for more then a day for the friendly Indians to ferry you across in May?  If so, should I hike from the south to the north so that I can relax after the crossing on the better beaches in the north half?  (Or are the better beaches in the south?) THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.  Please, if you’re too busy to answer all my questions, just email me something.  If I get enough somethings it will be better then one detailed response. (Man, am I ever looking forward to this vacation!) — "Wow, it’s like a ‘Calvin and Hobbes’ fantasy but without the "Dilbert" talking about Internet. — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — John E. Abraham                 ryryryryry   /    Mathematical Modelling ******* Current research:  Transportation and Land Use Interaction ******* trombone/piano/harmonica blues/jazz/rock player < backpacker < traveller

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People have swum the English Channel and the Nitinat Narrows would be considerably easier but the full pack would make it interesting. It is just as well I waited the 15 minutes for the boat ride.

Natural selection in action. Please DO NOT attempt to swim across Nitinat Narrows.  It is a tidal surge channel with dangerous undercurrents.  It may look relatively calm compared to the ocean nearby, but strong swimmers have died trying to cross. I have never heard of someone foolish enough to try.  Every book, map, etc. states that people have died, and it is passable only by boat.

Artificial selection in action.   Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers   {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene Second Favorite email message: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya

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I’m planning my trip in May.  Am I setting myself up for a lot of mud and rain?

We went in May last year and had a great trip, not many people, only two out of six days rain and not much mud.  Saw a bear on the trail (A worry!), but none around campsites, although always hung our food. We took the Lady Rose after hitching to Port Alberni, which involved next to no waiting at the side of the road and then at the south end,the Port Renfrew Connector to Victoria. How hard is it *really* to cross Nitinat Narrows?  Does anyone actually ever have to wait for more then a day for the friendly Indians to ferry you across in May?  If so, should I hike from the south to the north so that I can relax after the crossing on the better beaches in the north half?  (Or are the better beaches in the south?)

Forget it and wait. The southern boardwalks were very slippery!! particularily for my wife who had some newer boots on; Did one nice loop ending head first in a bog! Do you have your permit yet?  They have started requiring permits since last year. May is not the most popular month and we got ours at about this time last year.  Call Pacific Rim National Park and they’ll have the number to book it. Ian McKirdy Canada Centre for Remote Sensing Ottawa, Ontario  K1S 0Y7 613 947-1318 om mani padme hum

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Be prepared for rain.  I went 2 years ago and was caught in a near hurricane which forced the park service to close the trail for 3 days.  80 MPH winds and 2-3 inches of rain per day for 3 days straight.  Climbing down those ladders, covered with moss, with rain slushing down, rungs missing, and feeling the support anchors pulling out while wearing a 55lb pack was quite a thrill!   Once the storm cleared, myself and 4 other hikers had the trail to ourselves.  Although one woman came down with a fever and had to be helicoptered out, and two other silly hikers tried to wade across the Carmanah River after the heavy rains and lost all their gear when they were swept off their feet and nearly washed out to sea.  Luckily they managed to get to the Carmanah lighthouse, where they too were helicoptered out.  (A huge sitka spruce had fallen across the cable crossing…and was the main reason for the trail closure.)  The rest of us waited out the storm, until the water level was below our ankles. (The tip in the WCT trail book about crossing at low tide is a joke if the rivers are swollen with rain.) Whenever possible, travel the beach route.  There’s a beautiful campsite at Owen’s point.  If you’re a purist hike to Owen’s instead of taking the launch.  On the other hand, don’t miss out on the bogs either.  The bogs have elevated cedar walkways for the most part. I had no trouble hiking the trail in 7 days.  But I wish I’d taken a few extra days.  In particular, there are some interesting side trails such as a primitive trail up the Carmanah Valley. The best tip I can give you is to park your car at the Northern end of the trail, and then pay $10 to the Pachenat Band to drive you to the Southern end along the backroads (takes 3-4 hours).  That way you end up back at your car when you are done. A boat is required to cross Ninstints narrows.  I had to wait 4 hours for a ride.  Although, at slack tide you may be able wave down a passing fisherman.  I think the fee was $5, and you can buy a cold beer from the chief. You can probably buy or bum salmon/crabs off the fishermen and natives.  I was offered a 10lb Coho while waiting at the Narrows. Don’t drink the water!  Watch for black bear.  Climbing rope is useful if you go off trail.  Checkout Adrenalin Surge channel if you have a death wish. Good luck and have fun!   -bill

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People have swum the English Channel and the Nitinat Narrows would be considerably easier but the full pack would make it interesting. It is just as well I waited the 15 minutes for the boat ride. I hitchhiked from Bamfield to Port Renfrew and was assured by a park staff person that it would be quite easy to do so. It took me ten rides and 24 hours and some walking to do it. Nearly everybody who came by gave me a ride but there are few people on the logging roads that connect the two places and they are working and only going to the next turnoff.

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People have swum the English Channel and the Nitinat Narrows would be considerably easier but the full pack would make it interesting. It is just as well I waited the 15 minutes for the boat ride.

Please DO NOT attempt to swim across Nitinat Narrows.  It is a tidal surge channel with dangerous undercurrents.  It may look relatively calm compared to the ocean nearby, but strong swimmers have died trying to cross. I have never heard of someone foolish enough to try.  Every book, map, etc. states that people have died, and it is passable only by boat. Dave Lee

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 Abraham) writes: I’m planning my trip in May.  Am I setting myself up for a lot of mud and rain?

I would definitely be prepared for rain and mud.  You may be lucky and hit a dry week, but spring on the west coast trail means a healthy amount of rain. It has been a very dry winter this year so it may not be as bad as normal. One book implied that the average rainfall in May is not too bad. If I hit the low tides I’m hoping to do a bunch of beach walking, so that might get rid of the mud.  Comments?

If you plan it properly you can do a lot of beach walking.  This is the most scenic part of the trip and well worth the planning it takes to get on and off the beaches at the right times.  Remember, some beaches only have one exit trail amidst very steep cliffs and if you get caught by the tide it can be a difficult situation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve got favorable tides (low tides in the afternoon) from May 13 That gives me, say, 8 days of reasonable tides for beach walking. My wife and I aren’t very good at getting up early, so an ideal tide would maybe reach it’s low at 15:00.  We’d then hike from 12:00 to 16:00 and not worry about getting caught by rising tides. It sounds like the southern section is where I’ll really apreciate low tides (to get around Owens pt, for example) so I’m thinking of flying or driving out to the Island on the 8th-10th, leaving the car in Victoria, taking the bus (or the bus and The Lady Rose) to Bamfield, starting to hike on the 12th.  Then if we spend the planned 10 days/9 nights we’ll get out on the 21st. That’ll give us the 21st/22nd to get to Victoria (is this hard?  Does the Knight Limousine Service still operate?) to reclaim our car and the 22nd to the 24th to drive back to Calgary (or fly back, sans car of course.)

There is bus service back to Victoria, but I don’t remember the name of it. Hitch-hiking is also very possible to get back to Victoria. Lots of people will give rides to trail hikers.  Ten days is plenty of time to enjoy the trail with no need to rush. If you had 10 days to spend on the trail, how many of them would you hike?  Would you hike all 10 (an average of 7.5 km/day?) or would you spend a day or two in the middle somewhere just beachcoming and relaxing and seducing your spouse or S/O . (Is it *possible* to seduce your spouse or s/o if you’re both soaking wet from all the rain and you only have freeze-dried food?).  Where’s the best place for these sort of activities?

Five to six days of hiking is usually plenty to do the trail.  A nice side trip is up Nitinat river to Nitinat Lake.  You can camp beside the lake and do some fishing.  Usually very private for seduction type encounters.  The lake is tidal, but fresh water is available for washing, etc. Where’s the best fishing?  How can I find out more about the fishing? I’m not normally a fisherman, but hey, I’ve got 10 days.  And if I catch some fish I could even stretch our food supply to 11 or 12 days.

Depends on how much you carry, how much you eat, and how good a fisherman (person) you are. How warm can I expect it to be?

Cool during the day and cold at night. Probably not below 0 C however. How hard is it *really* to cross Nitinat Narrows?  Does anyone actually ever have to wait for more then a day for the friendly Indians to ferry you across in May?  If so, should I hike from the south to the north so that I can relax after the crossing on the better beaches in the north half?  (Or are the better beaches in the south?)

Don’t try to cross Nitinat narrows without a boat.  You will see what I mean when you get there.  Not a problem getting a boat ride across from the local natives.  They will offer to sell you some beer, and it will seem very tempting, especially if it is hot, but it can be very difficult to hike after drinking even one beer. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.  Please, if you’re too busy to answer all my questions, just email me something.  If I get enough somethings it will be better then one detailed response. (Man, am I ever looking forward to this vacation!)

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