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Can you convert a fly rod to a TN handle spinning rod. I thought you could do it by changing the eyes and an adjustment to the handle.. I have a fishing situation that requires th use of a noodle type spinning rod. Thanks

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I am sure you will get very good advise , this NG has 2 excellent rod builders..

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Need some good Midge Patterns,Presentation Tips

Need some good Midge Patterns,Presentation Tips

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I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

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This URL should help you out http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/chan/confession.phtml TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Wow. The article talks about using a 6 or 7 meter leader.  That seems like it would be impossible to cast? Keith – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This URL should help you out http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/chan/confession.phtml

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

Hi Xochi, Someone else pointed you to Brian Chan’s page.  Its a very good start. There are a lot of midge patterns around, most all fly tying books show a few.  The Griffith’s Gnat is a good dry pattern, its just that lake fish aren’t on drys very often.  They are on the emergers, pupa, and larva much more often.  I like the suspended midge pupa patterns for the emergers, and the swannundase midge for the pupa.  Both are in Kaufmans book "Tying Nymphs".  You will need a variety of colors and sizes,  assume you will need black, olive, gray, and red pupa patterns.  Sizes cover a huge spectrum.  My box includes size 12 at the large end and goes to 18 at the small end. Smaller may be needed on occasion, but not so often I stock for it.   What you really need to do is spend some time watching the midges hatch in your lake.  Stock your box with the colors and sizes present at your lake.  I didn’t mention larva patterns because I don’t use any special patterns for the larva.  The pupa pattern is generally close enough. Most of my midging is done within 4 feet of the surface.  This might be peculiar to the lakes I fish.  I don’t go out of my way to use a long leader, and tippet size doesn’t need to go to the rediculous either.  A standard 9 foot leader ending in 4x is OK most of the time.  Lake fish run pretty big and while smaller tippets can be used to land them,  doing so usually exhausts the fish in the process.  Stay with the heavier tippets whenever you can. Slow is key, in fact if you can keep the line tight, no retrieve is best.  I use a strike indicator a lot so a tight line is not as critical.  Wave action provides more than enough action to the fly.  To catch a few on midges now and again is a simple matter.  To get really good at it is a whole nother story! Good luck John S.

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I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa.

snipped to save room. going to get spammed for spamming.  I have the answer, but I don’t know how to help you and others in a public forum such as ROFF. The price one pays for being an icon!  Sucks! — Mr.G Wildlife: An American Ideal & Her Values Thesis http://www.gink.com/environment/index.html

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Xochi, What about my favourite midge-emerger: Hook: TMC 2487 #’s 18-22. Tail: two strrands of twinkle flash, cut off short. Body: grey tyingthread – make a very, very thin body, tied well into the bend. Tie in a CDC-feather at the point. Wrap a small thorax with some peacock-herl Fold the CDC-feather losely over the thorax, thus forming a small buld on top. It’s OK to let some fibers point out. The idea is to get a small body with a rather messy thorax. Cut of. Just let this fly float in the surface, using a long leader-point, without too much casting. Hans van der Stroom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

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Greetings, Small Fly by Darrel Martin, try a search on http://www.addall.com/ for a source and the best price available. Graham

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

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The price one pays for being an icon!  Sucks!

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Not so, we use 20-22 ft leaders, in lakes, all the time.  A lot of people who use a bobber over their chironomids, cast these leaders very well….even with the cork. Fred – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow. The article talks about using a 6 or 7 meter leader.  That seems like it would be impossible to cast? Keith This URL should help you out http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/chan/confession.phtml

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TRY A FLY CALLED HALO MIDGE EMERGER.YOU WILL FIND THE PATTERN IN A BOOK WRITTEN BY GARY LAFONTAINE:TROUT FLIES PROVEN PATTERNS.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

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Hi Xochi (how does one pronounce that anyway :) I read your post several times … these are the things that came to mind. The Grifiths Gnat and Brassie don’t really cover the few inches of water column beneath the surface unless you clip hackles or use greased leaders.   Last year Mike Connor suggested I try a snipe and purple on midging fish in lakes … I didn’t have snipe at the time and used magpie instead … both have worked for me.  But … I pick a fish and put the fly well infront and will strip the fly into the fishes path if necessary then leave it inert – I generally don’t have to fish the water.  Of course that was last year – this year may be completely different :-) What species of fish?  Rainbows give me the most trouble with their speed, even seemingly slow rise forms are from fish moving at quite a clip. Do something radical … trick I use is to use a small attractor (size 16 or 14 at most) and fish this by casting to a rise and stripping slowly … Alexandras are good for this on the lakes I fish.  This isn’t a bad option when searching the water either.  I will also use bait fish imitations … it really depends a lot on the water. What fly do I start with? … 99% of the time the wrong one. :) Of course if your fish are totally switched on to a 3.75 mm pupae with a bluey-silver sheen  you may need a whole lot of luck as well… Its taken nine off-seasons to come up with couple of tactics and flies that work consistently on midge feeders during the middle of the day. steve — "Experience must be the teacher in this game – not only your own  but the other man’s" – Dick Wigram http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~steve/fush/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to improve my midge presentations this year. There is a local lake that I fish often where midges appear to be a major food source and I keep getting skunked. :) I know, use, and tie only a couple of midge patterns: 1. Griffith’s Gnat for dry 2. Brassie for the pupa. Anyone have any killer patterns for midges? I’m especially interested in larva, pupa, and emerger type patterns. There don’t seem to be as many out there as for mayfly nymphs etc. As for presentation, I recently checked out Mike Croft’s stillwater book and found that midge larva and pupa imitations need to be presented in a near vertical presentation with very slow retrieve. I think this is part of my problem also. Any tips/techniques anyone has here would be appreciated as well!

I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of "Whitlock’s Four-Phase Polymidge", but It is a simple and supposedly highly effective pattern.  I have never used it, but the design seems very good, and all the stories I’ve heard? Convincing!    Meroli

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Steve Wrote <snip Of course if your fish are totally switched on to a 3.75 mm pupae with a bluey-silver sheen  you may need a whole lot of luck as well… Its taken nine off-seasons to come up with couple of tactics and flies that work consistently on midge feeders during the middle of the day.

Have any of you heard of the Silver Savior (as featured in Field and Stream)? It can barely be called a fly, It is supposed to work when trout seem to be "feeding on microscopic bubbles!" (pronounced with a tone of frustration). Unfortunately, I forgot how it is tied!  I can say that it is tied on a #22-#32 size hook, with almost no materials.  The author of the article said that he invented it to imitate a tiny air bubble.       Meroli

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AJ Bests patterns in FR&R about a year ago are interesting,  using  the edge from a zip lock baggie!  Will try them out in one week at Lees Ferry.  Report to follow.   Al Schuh-fly

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The best website for the San Juan,     www.ifly4trout.com    , has lots of midge patterns

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » my largest trout on fly

my largest trout on fly

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I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career.  At one of the lakes in the mammoth basin, I set off in my float tube, fly rod in hand, freezing cold.  The morning was in the low 40’s, not my favorite temperature.  I trolled the lake for three hours until 9AM until i thought i felt a leak in my waders (bad).  Cold water in your waders is very unpleasant at best but getting blanked while fish are jumping around you is much worse.  So I decided to take one more pass through the outlet part of the lake.  I tied on a woolly worm, and was immediately into a small trout.  After letting it go, a nice breeze came over the lake, allowing me to be more agressive with my casting and presentation.  I landed and released several more 12" trout and the soggy feeling in my waders was increasing at an alarming rate.  I decided to head in after a few more casts, i was losing feeling in my toes.  While carefully stripping in line, i felt a gentle tug, trout!  I immediately set the hook into what i thought was a rock.  It wouldnt budge, until i started to peel off line from my reel.  I eventually netted the rainbow and noticed its mouth was forming into a hook jaw.  This was the largest trout i had caught until that point and i was quite satisfied and ready to head in. However, a nagging feeling that overcame the numbness from the lower half of my body made me cast one more time.  Another gentle tug, and I quickly played the small trout in by hand.  But it wasnt small.  No, it was huge by my standards.  As soon as i played in half of my line, the thing took off screaming like a torpedo.  There is nothing quite as sweet sounding as the singing of a click and pawl reel.  It took me 10 minutes to bring that huge rainbow in, i missed it on my first attempt at netting it because the darned thing wouldn’t fit into the net.  I probably pissed it off because it took another blistering run, taking me into my backing.  I was afraid it would break off, 2lb tippet isnt the sturdiest line available.  I eventually got it in, the thing was 24" long and looked more like a salmon than a trout.  But it was beautiful. Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])

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Steve wrote (good story snipped): I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career

Congratulations!  Sounded like a great time.  You have definitely caught the bug from the sounds of it. Warren

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Right on man!! Sounds like a great time! Forrest FlyFishingREVIEW.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career.  At one of the lakes in the mammoth basin, I set off in my float tube, fly rod in hand, freezing cold.  The morning was in the low 40’s, not my favorite temperature. I trolled the lake for three hours until 9AM until i thought i felt a leak in my waders (bad).  Cold water in your waders is very unpleasant at best but getting blanked while fish are jumping around you is much worse.  So I decided to take one more pass through the outlet part of the lake.  I tied on a woolly worm, and was immediately into a small trout.  After letting it go, a nice breeze came over the lake, allowing me to be more agressive with my casting and presentation.  I landed and released several more 12" trout and the soggy feeling in my waders was increasing at an alarming rate.  I decided to head in after a few more casts, i was losing feeling in my toes.  While carefully stripping in line, i felt a gentle tug, trout!  I immediately set the hook into what i thought was a rock.  It wouldnt budge, until i started to peel off line from my reel.  I eventually netted the rainbow and noticed its mouth was forming into a hook jaw.  This was the largest trout i had caught until that point and i was quite satisfied and ready to head in. However, a nagging feeling that overcame the numbness from the lower half of my body made me cast one more time.  Another gentle tug, and I quickly played the small trout in by hand.  But it wasnt small.  No, it was huge by my standards.  As soon as i played in half of my line, the thing took off screaming like a torpedo.  There is nothing quite as sweet sounding as the singing of a click and pawl reel.  It took me 10 minutes to bring that huge rainbow in, i missed it on my first attempt at netting it because the darned thing wouldn’t fit into the net.  I probably pissed it off because it took another blistering run, taking me into my backing.  I was afraid it would break off, 2lb tippet isnt the sturdiest line available.  I eventually got it in, the thing was 24" long and looked more like a salmon than a trout.  But it was beautiful. Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])

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Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])

I have a feeling that the kastmasters don’t have much of a future. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Guide » "Idiots Guide to Running" by Bill Rodgerd

"Idiots Guide to Running" by Bill Rodgerd

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I don’t know about other folks out there, but I resent the entire concept of "The Idoit’s Guide to…" series. It’s insulting to imply that people are "idiots" because they want to learn quickly about running, or Window 95, or Wine Tasting, or whatever. Somebody needs to come up with a Genius’ series to combat these Idiot Guides. For my money, Galloway’s book is a classic without insulting the reader with an annoying title.

The books do not suggest that their readers are idiots. There are beginners to various activities who have beginners’ concerns; such people may feel — let’s say through insecurity — that their concerns are not those generally felt by any but the novice. They suspect that they would be regarded as idiotic by more advanced members if they were to express their concerns. This isn’t to say anyone has ever suggested they are indeed idiotic for being new to a particular activity. The books appeal, in a light-hearted way, to such insecurities. It is simply way of attracting the novice audience. Take a look inside one of these books and check how many times the author actually refers to his reader as an "idiot". Not too many, I suspect.

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You should read "Complete Idiots for Dummies" for an explanation of this phenomon. -ssloth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -It’s insulting to imply that people are "idiots" because they want to learn quickly about running, or Window 95, or Wine Tasting, or whatever.

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The title may be "irritating", but some books in the Idiot and Dummy series have famous authors, as with this one. I find the series hit and miss.  Some of the books are too trivial while others, such as Rogers’, are good ones.

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I read parts of it in the bookstore yesterday and it seems pretty good. It had a number of statistics I’ll quote from time to time when the appropiate issue comes up in this newsgroup.

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Joe, you’re joking, right? A lot of late 20th century phenomena irritates the crap out of me, but a light-hearted acknowledgement that most people don’t know as much as they’d like to, something that’s become an incredibly successful series of publications… sorry, I just don’t have time to resent that one. By the way, I think the use of the term "Idiot" in this context dates back to some early 70s shop manuals that were written "…For the Complete Idiot," which were, themselves, light-hearted takeoffs on the centuries-old angling (fly fishing?) classic, "The compleat angler…" Someone more literary than I might wish to cut in and help me out here before I appear even more ignorant. or just plain idiotic, Dirk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know about other folks out there, but I resent the entire concept of "The Idoit’s Guide to…" series. It’s insulting to imply that people are "idiots" because they want to learn quickly about running, or Window 95, or Wine Tasting, or whatever. Somebody needs to come up with a Genius’ series to combat these Idiot Guides. For my money, Galloway’s book is a classic without insulting the reader with an annoying title. I read parts of it in the bookstore yesterday and it seems pretty good. It had a number of statistics I’ll quote from time to time when the appropiate issue comes up in this newsgroup. — Joe Ranft

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I don’t know about other folks out there, but I resent the entire concept of "The Idoit’s Guide to…" series. It’s insulting to imply that people are "idiots" because they want to learn quickly about running, or Window 95, or Wine Tasting, or whatever. Somebody needs to come up with a Genius’ series to combat these Idiot Guides. For my money, Galloway’s book is a classic without insulting the reader with an annoying title. I read parts of it in the bookstore yesterday and it seems pretty good. It had a number of statistics I’ll quote from time to time when the appropiate issue comes up in this newsgroup.

– Joe Ranft

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Guide » Apology

Apology

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<SNIP But who cares what of it is true and what isn’t, or who was "in on it" or who wasn’t?

Quite a few people care what is true, and what is not. Nobody on this group was "in" on anything. There was no collusion of any kind. I had no contact whatsoever with anybody else on this group regarding my actions. People who know me figured out pretty quickly that I was behaving at least oddly, and formed their own opinions. For somebody who does not care at all what other people think, you sure are curious. As Mr. LaCourse more than fairly observed. He also thought I was behaving like a loony, but he was prepared to forgive and forget based on past experience. I am also most grateful to him for his fairness in this regard. My arrival "out of the blue" as you put it, was the result of a person attributing opinions to me, which I have never averred, and do not hold. To whit, that "Gink is worse than spent nuclear fuel". This was e-mailed to me, and as a consequence, I responded to the post on ROFF.  The result was a personal attack, with no regard whatever for the truth of the matter. I responded in kind. Thus began the whole episode. MC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP I’m not sure how the people that Mike has been "arguing" with are supposed to know this. If this IS true, he is doing it at other’s expense and it has really gotten old. If it’s just a typical ROFF argument, like I think it is, so be it. People will look at the two sides as they will. There are always two sides to these things. Willi Willi, I fear you err in this respect. I was not arguing, there would be no point in arguing against a personal attack. You basically have two choices in such a case, either you ignore it, and hope everybody else does, or you defend yourself as best you can. It is not necessary to "know"  why you are being attacked, it is sufficient that this is indeed the case.  I limited my "attacks" to those who attacked me. All attacks of this nature are done at somebody else

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Trout Fly Fishing » Orvis Guides Had a bad time

Orvis Guides Had a bad time

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I have fished with many Orvis endorsed guides and guides who weren’t Orvis endorsed and I will take the Orvis guides any day. Not only did I have a better time and was treated better but I also was well fed.  I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t like slob guides and ones with attitudes.  One comes to mind with an attitude and that was Charlie Weaver at gates Ausable Lodge.  I don’t like a guide or anyone else telling me I suck at fly fishing or anything else for that matter. Iv’e been at this for to many years and have caught more trout than I can even hope to remember.  I have fished with Crystal Creek Guides ,Johnson’s Guides,Grey drake lodge and on and on.  Stick with the Orvis Guides and at least if something is not up to snuff you can call someone and voice your opinion with other guides you might as well spit in the wind. ilkie my guides to be well groomed and not smell like an old goat.

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Good fly fishermen don’t need guides, aren’t too concerned about the food, and usually don’t smell so sweet. Ernie Harrison

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Ernie, I have to take exception to your post. I too have fished with guides and without them, and if you are going to new water and have limited vacation time, the cost of a good guide is well worth the money. And when you are paying good money, you have a right to good, professional treatment. Having said that, the challenge of learning your ‘home water’  is a lifelong occupation best shared with a friend or loved one, not a guide. Ray FlyFisherRay

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Good fly fishermen don’t need guides, aren’t too concerned about the food, and usually don’t smell so sweet. Ernie Harrison

Go out on the saltwater flats and pole your butt around all day and then say you don’t need a guide. It’s for sure you won’t smell too sweet<g. — Charlie…

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Ernie, I have to take exception to your post. I too have fished with guides and without them, and if you are going to new water and have limited vacation time, the cost of a good guide is well worth the money. FlyFisherRay

I did not say a guide is not worth the money or should not be professional.  I personally enjoy the challenge of finding out what works on new waters by myself.  Floating down a river with a guide who tells me what and where to cast is not my idea of fun.  I do not have to catch a lot of big to enjoy myself.   Ernie Harrison  

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Trinity River, CA

Trinity River, CA

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My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing.  Any advice from recent visitors?  Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance.  Dave in Anderson, CA

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This is probably late advice, but I’d stay home.   The river is muddy and fishing is slow. Instead of the Trinity, I’d go over to Lewiston Lake and flyfish that area.  Or…take a drive over to the Smith River as it’s still clear enough to fish and, I understand, that the salmon and steelhead are being cooperative.  Four good updated info on the Trinity, I’d call the Eureka Fly Shop at 444-2000 or the Redding Fly Shop (I don’t have their number). Barry Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing.  Any advice from recent visitors?  Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance.  Dave in Anderson, CA

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Line » RIO VersiTip Line

RIO VersiTip Line

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Has any one had any experience with the RIO VersiTip?  Any info would be appreciated. Thanks – Chris Chris Thompson

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Has any one had any experience with the RIO VersiTip?  Any info would be appreciated. Thanks – Chris Chris Thompson

Not experienced with the RIO line but their leaders and leader material are great products. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Organization: BT’s Fly Fishing Products Has any one had any experience with the RIO VersiTip?  Any info would be appreciated. Thanks – Chris Chris Thompson Not experienced with the RIO line but their leaders and leader material are great products. Al Beatty

Hello, I’ve only got a very limited bit of experience with the leaders and leader material, but I have used their level shooting heads, and I hope the sink tips they include with the line are better made than the shooting heads that they sell (although I know that they are the same).   I bought a RIO type 6, 9 wt level shooting head that I chopped in 1/2 and looped the end to use on my home-grown sink tip lines.  The coating of this 1/2 section of line is now almost gone after very little use and I’ve been forced to toss it and use the second 1/2 already!  My SA type 4, type 2 and DWE heads have lasted many years under far more and harder use.  In fairness, the SA heads do cost about 2x as much as the RIO heads.  Anyway, I’m a big advocate of doing it yourself when it comes to a sink tip system – but be advised that it certainly doesn’t save any money over this system you mention, you just get a rig suited to your particular needs.  For a home-grown, you are looking at a $50 steelhead taper WF line, and at least 2 shooting heads (each of which will make 2 sink tips though) at $25 each for a total of ~$100.  I think this is about the same price as the versa-tip system isn’t it? I should also mention that this cheapie RIO type 6 head doesn’t sink quite as fast as the type 4 SA head – which is backward.  I’ve heard this complaint from several fellow steelheaders.   No flames.  I’ve nothing against Jim Vincent, RIO, or anything, and I know that SA makes their lines. cheers,         -tgades — Tony Gades Seattle, WA USA   website:   http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Trade Publication Query

Trade Publication Query

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This is really addressed to manufacturers and fly shop owners/operators. Are there any trade publications geared to the fly fishing industry? I’m familiar with all of the consumer titles, but would be interested to find out about any trade/industry titles. Thanks for your help.

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‘Fly Tackle Dealer"  Contact the people at ‘Rod & Reel’. A.J.Thramer

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fighting fish on reel??

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I most certainly a novice at Fly fishing, but I catch enough fish and have fun. The other day though I caught a fellow angler looking down his nose at me like I was some sort of kook. I had a fish on the line (a little one as is my usual luck) and was reeling it in.  I later saw this gentleman bringng hsi fish in by pulling the line with his free hand and letting it tangle around his legs. I was raised as a spin fisherman, so my instinct is to use the reel. I also know both sides of the argumant and have seen and heard many experts advocate fishing fighting both ways (reel or hand). So my question is, what really is the best way. I mostly fish for trout in the 8 to 18 inch range, though 12 to 14 is about average for around here. I also catch bass on the same rod. Pulling the line can be a pain, but so can trying to reel up the extra line  after setting the hook before the fish takes off.  – Thanks –Grant in PA

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I generally let the fish decide!  Seriously, I let the fish pull the line out until I’m on the reel, then play it from there.  If it’s a wee one, I generally pull it in by hand.  The important thing is to get the fish to hand, using whatever technique works best at the moment. — Jim Benenson                 Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA "To protect your rivers, protect your mountains"       Emperor Yu of China, circa 1600 B.C.

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I most certainly a novice at Fly fishing, but I catch enough fish and have fun. The other day though I caught a fellow angler looking down his nose at me like I was some sort of kook. I had a fish on the line (a little one as is my usual luck) and was reeling it in.  I later saw this gentleman bringng hsi fish in by pulling the line with his free hand and letting it tangle around his legs. I was raised as a spin fisherman, so my instinct is to use the reel. I also know both sides of the argumant and have seen and heard many experts advocate fishing fighting both ways (reel or hand). So my question is, what really is the best way. I mostly fish for trout in the 8 to 18 inch range, though 12 to 14 is about average for around here. I also catch bass on the same rod. Pulling the line can be a pain, but so can trying to reel up the extra line  after setting the hook before the fish takes off. — Thanks –Grant in PA

Grant, it is a good habit to get the fish on the reel as quickly as possible.  If the fish you have on is large, you will have more control, more mobility, reduce line ware and lessor chance of fly line wraping around any and all weeds, twigs, etc. Fight fish that are either large, on in heavy water require the fisher person to be opposit the fish or below the fish for control measures.   Try and do the above with line around your feet. Best of Luck Joe

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First rule of thumb, do what is easiest and most comfortable for YOU. don’t let anyone "look down his nose at you" because you are doing something the WRONG way. If you are used to playing a fish on the reel, do so, this will especially help when you catch a larger fish. The drag on your reel was designed to help you with this. Smaller fish can be played by just stipping line, but again there really is no right or wrong way. TieFlie

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