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South Africa is not all that bad I do admit to a lot of crime here though Aids is not much of a problem among the white communities they say something like 35% of all Africans are infected From Gavin

That’s what I was talking about.  It’s been in the news over here quite a bit lately.  Didn’t realize that it was localized to the black community. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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if one was limited to 1 line for each line weight #2-#12 and could only spend about $50 on each line what kind,weight,taper,density(floating sinking etc.)price and color would it be is there a preference for certain line which lines are the most popular which line would you recommend for a beginner what do you think of multi tips etc. these answers will help in restocking a new fly shop in south africa we have got airflow flylines but want to now what the craze is now information will be greatly appreciated tight lines from Gavin

If I walked into a fly shop and they had only 1 type of line in each weight, I would immediately walk out. Peter G. Aitken

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If I walked into a fly shop and they had only 1 type of line in each weight, I would immediately walk out.

LOL.  I didn’t think about that but I agree.  Unless it is the only shop within a 100 miles and I need stuff now. I’ve been in a situation where I went fishing to a location that I was told had a local fly-shop.  Therefore, I chose to buy some of my stuff at their shop in hopes of getting some local information.  However, the shop turned out to be a small corner in a gas station.  The only other shop was 3 hours away. — Vern The new ROFF page: http://home.earthlink.net/~flyfishing4fun "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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If I walked into a fly shop and they had only 1 type of line in each weight, I would immediately walk out.  If you were in a society where the average yearly  income is 1/100 of the US, you might view shopping  opportunities in a different light.  Greg.

I could be wrong, but I’m guessing that Gavin’s folks aren’t selling a lot of fly lines to the native South Africans. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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 HMMMM  lessssseee. I net 85K so 1/100 would be $850. HOLY SMOKES Pancho I just spent more for 6 mo. professional hazard insurance than the average annual income of 4/5 of the world.Not to mention the annual dues I pay to the various professional societies.AH the wonders of tax loopholes.  By the way 3 out of 4 people make up 75 % of the worlds population.   OK OK OK  shut up and go fishing. —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

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I second the trashing of the Airflow lines.  I’ve only been fly fishing for 12 years, but for the last 2 years I’ve been ff about 4-5 times a week. I’ve used the Airflo Delta and Bass lines:  they suck terribly.  Never ever lose their memory (when in Florida I stretched a line around my garage and left it in the 100 degree heat for 24 hours, and it still retained its memory coil) and they are sure to tangle on at least 25 to 50% of your casts.  Even the cheapest Cortlands (333) and SAs are far better. Adam

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But poke holes in them with a pin first and you might (with luck) have a few new customers in … maybe … 15-20 years!

My mother sells rubbers to sailors. My pop pokes  the holes with a pin. My sister performs the abortions. My God, how the money rolls in! (Just kidding…Mom’s a lawyer, Dad teaches, and the closest thing I have to a sister is their female Golden Retriever) Vegetables aren’t food. Vegetables are what the food eats.

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LOL…the minute I read your message and saw the word ‘airflow’ I thought, "*((&%)# line memory!"  Then I read the replies that are above mine and have little to add.   Absolute crap.   I’ve been fly fishing many years now and can think of few things I’ve purchased that have caused me more anger and headaches during the short time I used it. I now keep what’s left of it in my large fishing box to use for emergency shoe laces, tent rope, etc. Until recently I had a large enough house lot so that I could stretch my fly lines out in the sun full length under tension to get out any line memory, prior to most trips.  It worked great on everything but the Airflow, which still looked like a floating slinky on the surface when used the next day. I’m not as conversant as some on the new lines, so can’t recommend any particular brand, but just wanted to add my $.02 worth about ‘Airflow.’ Max Before you buy.

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Trash the AirFlo lines, stock a full line of AirFlo leaders, get SA and Cortland fly lines, give out free condoms with each purchase over $50 or you’ll have no customers in 5 years. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Gavin, I thought you were the 16 year old kid.  Didn’t you say that you started fly-fishing 6 years ago when you were 10?  Now, you have your own fly-shop in South Africa? — Vern The new ROFF page: http://home.earthlink.net/~flyfishing4fun "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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I second the trashing of the Airflow lines.  I’ve only been fly fishing for 12 years, but for the last 2 years I’ve been ff about 4-5 times a week. I’ve used the Delta and Bass lines:  they suck terribly.  Never ever lose their memory (when in Florida I stretched a line around my garage and left it in the 100 degree heat for 24 hours, and it still retained its memory coil) and they are sure to tangle on at least 25 to 50% of your casts.  Even the cheapest Cortlands (333) and SAs are far better. Adam

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if one was limited to 1 line for each line weight #2-#12 and could only spend about $50 on each line what kind,weight,taper,density(floating sinking etc.)price and color would it be is there a preference for certain line which lines are the most popular which line would you recommend for a beginner what do you think of multi tips etc. these answers will help in restocking a new fly shop in south africa we have got airflow flylines but want to now what the craze is now information will be greatly appreciated tight lines from Gavin

Again, trash the airflow lines.  I like the Rio lines.  However, Corland is a big company and might be easier to get in South Africa. Their lines are okay depending on which one you get. — Vern The new ROFF page: http://home.earthlink.net/~flyfishing4fun "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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Trash the AirFlo lines, stock a full line of AirFlo leaders, get SA and Cortland fly lines, give out free condoms with each purchase over $50 or you’ll have no customers in 5 years. — Wayne

___  The voice of experience!  Good advice. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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… give out free condoms with each purchase over $50 or you’ll have no customers in 5 years.

But poke holes in them with a pin first and you might (with luck) have a few new customers in … maybe … 15-20 years! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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That is "Airflo", not "airflow", which is immaterial in any case as it is only fit for the bin. If you do not already know the answers to these questions, quite apart from the prices involved, then you should not be opening a fly shop. The "craze" at the moment appears to be inline skates. TL MC "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Sent: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2000 19:56 if one was limited to 1 line for each line weight #2-#12 and could only spend about $50 on each line what kind,weight,taper,density(floating sinking etc.)price and color would it be is there a preference for certain line which lines are the most popular which line would you recommend for a beginner what do you think of multi tips etc. these answers will help in restocking a new fly shop in south africa we have got airflow flylines but want to now what the craze is now information will be greatly appreciated tight lines from Gavin — "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de if one was limited to 1 line for each line weight #2-#12 and could only spend about $50 on each line what kind,weight,taper,density(floating sinking etc.)price and color would it be is there a preference for certain line which lines are the most popular which line would you recommend for a beginner what do you think of multi tips etc. these answers will help in restocking a new fly shop in south africa we have got airflow flylines but want to now what the craze is now information will be greatly appreciated tight lines from Gavin

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… give out free condoms with each purchase over $50 or you’ll have no customers in 5 years. But poke holes in them with a pin first and you might (with luck) have a few new customers in … maybe … 15-20 years! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

If they live that long.  Odds aren’t as good as they used to be in SA. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … give out free condoms with each purchase over $50 or you’ll have no customers in 5 years. But poke holes in them with a pin first and you might (with luck) have a few new customers in … maybe … 15-20 years! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon If they live that long.  Odds aren’t as good as they used to be in SA. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

South Africa is not all that bad I do admit to a lot of crime here though Aids is not much of a problem among the white communities they say something like 35% of all Africans are infected From Gavin

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That is "Airflo", not "airflow", which is immaterial in any case as it is only fit for the bin. If you do not already know the answers to these questions, quite apart from the prices involved, then you should not be opening a fly shop. The "craze" at the moment appears to be inline skates. TL MC "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

Im just wanted to know as we have sold most of AIRFLO stock and plan to get more I said if 1 was limited to $50 which is about R320 with our exchange rate at the moment Oh I dont own a shop I am helping my friend who does regards Gavin

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if one was limited to 1 line for each line weight #2-#12 and could only spend about $50 on each line what kind,weight,taper,density(floating sinking etc.)price and color would it be is there a preference for certain line which lines are the most popular which line would you recommend for a beginner what do you think of multi tips etc. these answers will help in restocking a new fly shop in south africa we have got airflow flylines but want to now what the craze is now information will be greatly appreciated tight lines from Gavin

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I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin. I’m not telling where it is, of course. (If anyone wants to visit the Stanley area I’ll show it to you.) This is a nearly perfect mountain meadow creek — nice slow dry-fly water — which is a change of pace from the fast-flowing freestone rivers that dominate the landscape here. It has a lot of wildlife, too, which I like. As I walked to the creek there were three Swainson’s hawks in the air and I spooked a pair of Sandhill Cranes and a deer. The walking is treacherous because of numerous beaver projects. There wasn’t another soul in sight. The problem is that I didn’t catch any fish. I saw plenty, though. They came in two sizes: tiny and humongous. It was a problem keeping the tiny ones from spoiling the float to the humongous ones. There were many trout holding near the bank that must have been four pounds and up, easy. They rejected every offering. I crawled on my belly to the bank to avoid spooking them (which is ridiculously easy to do on this creek — spooking, I mean), and basically went through my fly boxes. I’d like to think they just weren’t feeding because a big thunderstorm was moving in. I just watched them for awhile and they didn’t look like they were feeding. This creek is now my project. It’s difficult sight fishing for large prey. BTW, on the drive home, over the pass, I saw that it had snowed. Snow on August 4! — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)

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I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin. I’m not telling where it is, of course. (If anyone wants to visit the Stanley area I’ll show it to you.) This is a nearly perfect mountain meadow creek — nice slow dry-fly water — which is a change of pace from the fast-flowing freestone rivers that dominate the landscape here. It has a lot of wildlife, too, which I like. As I walked to the creek there were three Swainson’s hawks in the air and I spooked a pair of Sandhill Cranes and a deer. The walking is treacherous because of numerous beaver projects. There wasn’t another soul in sight. The problem is that I didn’t catch any fish. I saw plenty, though.

Today I figured out how to fish this creek. It was great! It fished real well with #8 hoppers during the heat of the afternoon. I walk along the high banks looking for big fish. They seem to hang out together in groups of about 2 to 4 or so, but you also see single fish. If there are small fish around there are never any big fish. There must be a lot of cannibalism going on. (I’ll have to try some streamers next time.) Once I see them they’ve almost certainly seen me and have spooked, no matter how careful I am. In fact, sometimes I deliberately spook them because they’re holding in an undercut bank where I can’t see them. Then I have to wait five minutes or so, well back from the bank. After they’ve rested I creep to the bank about 40 feet upstream from them and present the fly downstream. These fish don’t seem to be all that selective about flies and this place is very lightly fished (I’ve never seen anyone there), but the water is perfectly clear and smooth and 7x tippets are called for. It seemed to be best when there was a bit of a breeze to make ripples on the surface. I got my three best cutthroats of the season today. The largest was maybe 20". Well, OK, 19". Also saw a Peregrine Falcon real close. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)

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I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin.

(terrific little narrative snipped) I got my three best cutthroats of the season today. The largest was maybe 20". Well, OK, 19". Also saw a Peregrine Falcon real close. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)

    god, wulffie, what a world you live in.  congratulations. wayno

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Hi Jerry, I am from Co fermanagh in the North, but live in Scotland.  I can give you loads of info if you’re interested.Where are you??  Gillaroo

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Planning a couple of weeks touring in Ireland, late August …..looking for suggested sites for short (1/2 day or full day)…lake or river…flyfishing….Prefer an area where there are gardens and stuff for my wife to see while I fish……plan to stay a few days in each of several areas of the country, and fish leisurely as a part…not the entire purpose…of my trip. Will take a 6 wgt. rod and my stuff…but need a guide, local flies etc etc. Recommendations? Thanks in advance, Jerry Greenhoot

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Hi Mark, The best grayling flies (IMHO that is, and I caught a lot of ‘m) are:  Dries: 1. Klinkhamer Special 2. Traun Special 3. Deerhair Caddis/CDC-flies (small one’s!!)/Compara Duns  Nymphs: 1. Hare’s Ear Goldbead 2. Zug Bug 3. Caddis emergers This is in order of effectivity. You can mail me if you don’t know the patterns. CU Hans van der Stroom

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Mark, Grayling can be caught on many different flies.  Probably the surest thing is some black gnats.  But I have caught them on smaller streamers also.  Small minnow imitations, too. Pike are fun – take some fur "flies" – rabbit is good – especially white in my experience.  You can get a big pike to hit one of these even when he is so full of suckers that he does not even want to move. Lake trout might be a problem, depending on where you are going.  Where I am planning to go this Summer, they never go deep, but that is up on the Arctic Circle.  By July, you might not find any shallow enough for a fly rod.  If you do, I have had the best luck with minnow imatations retrieved fast – they are strong swimmers and I think that they are used to chasing prey that move pretty fast. You might email me and let me know where you are going, Kermit

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Greetings:   I’ll be fishing up in northern Canada around the middle of July, and would very much appreciate any info you could provide concerning your favorite fly patterns (and sizes) for arctic grayling, lake trout and northern pike.     I actually have caught smaller northerns on Dahlberg Divers, bunny leeches, etc., but I have never caught a lake trout on a fly, and I have never even seen a grayling.  I’m tying Dahlberg Divers, deer hair poppers and bunny leeches now, but I would like your feedback regarding patterns. I’m guessing that mosquito patterns, Elk Wing Caddis, maybe Adams would be good for grayling?  Any and all advice appreciated.  Thanks!   Cheers, and tight lines, -Mark

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  I am headed north of Anchorage next week toward Talkeetna.  Can anyone recommend a tackle shop for supplies and info for me along this route? Thanks. Elbert Bivins

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McAfee’s Fly Shop, Anchorage Mountain View Sports, Anchorage Valley Rod Shop, Wasilla Beyond that you can get some odds and ends stuff at most of the hardware, groceriy, and outdoor shops. In Talkeetna, Steve Mahay at Mahay’s Riverboat Service supports the fly fishing crowd and usually has some supplies. Always a good spot for info. You should also check out the Alaska Flyfishers web site at www.akflyfishers.org They have a flyfishing forum section where you can post questions and get answers to probably most of your questions. Lance Hankins I have nothing against Golf. I suspect it keeps legions of the Unworthy from discovering fly fishing… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I am headed north of Anchorage next week toward Talkeetna.  Can anyone recommend a tackle shop for supplies and info for me along this route? Thanks. Elbert Bivins

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

Let me guess…you’re new to the internet (and USENET). This is not a "site" this is a newsgroup.  Just a bunch of random people who talk about a topic or mostly whatever happens to come out of their keyboards.  Don’t like it? Don’t come here.  There are no rules and no services are provided, you get out of this group what is contributed to it. Later,      - Ken — Not speaking for anyone but myself

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste!

Make that 26% bullshit Allan (considering your useless whining drivel of a post). — OBROFF – Flyfishing through convalesence….I recently broke ribs playing basketball…it hurt to do anything.  Tying flies required that an arm be propped up.  But, while tying…having the mental image of using the flies, of being on the water, most certainly sped recovery.   You can extrapolate this to the most fatal conditions and even if one does not survive an illness, what was lost to the memory of being back on the water and imagining that a fish will rise ?  Rest in peace Jim (April 6, 1998). — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

Gee Allan that’s a hellova contribution. Best Regards, Phil Koenig Manhattan Custom Tackle, Ltd. http://fishdoc.com "I’m the boss, so WHATEVER I say is OK."

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Actually there is a lot of good information here. You just have to learn which contributors are worth reading and which ones to delete. Happy days. Jack.

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That sounds about right for any decent flyfisher, gear included. Obviously, not recognizing this, you are a bait dunker. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

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Next week I’m finally taking that trip up the Little Kern to Golden Trout country that me and my fishing buddy have been talking about for two years.  Plan to take the forks of the Kern Trail down to the forks, then pack in from there for a couple of days.  Anyone have any useful info for fishing the area this time of year.  Flies, good campsites, etc.? —                                                            -dnc-

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Next week I’m finally taking that trip up the Little Kern to Golden Trout country that me and my fishing buddy have been talking about for two years.  Plan to take the forks of the Kern Trail down to the forks, then pack in from there for a couple of days.  Anyone have any useful info for fishing the area this time of year.  Flies, good campsites, etc.?

Years ago I fished the main stem of the Kern, from Junction Meadow up to Lake South America–very similar countryside to where you’re going.  (I accessed the area from the Whitney Portal trail.)  As I recall, there were good campsites just about everywhere.  I was in my attractor fly phase, and I caught tons of rainbows and goldens using mainly just a bi-visible.  I’d fish a fly until it was chewed beyond recognition, tie on another, and keep catching them.  I even kept on catching them during an afternoon thunder shower (ducking under a tree during the worst of it, then continuing after the lightning had moved up the canyon).  These were wild fish, and they weren’t at all picky.  You can probably get by using generic sorts of attractors: Adams, Humpy, bi-visibles, hare’s ear nymphs, zug bugs, PTs, etc., and some black Muddlers for lakes.  Smaller sizes are probably best. What I remember best was the bear that I saw one morning.  I had fished upstream a considerable distance from my camp on the opposite side of the river, when a black bear ambled by on the far side, heading upstream.  He never saw me, until I let him get a couple of hundred feet above me, and I whistled.  The bear stopped, looked around a moment, until he spotted me.  We held eye contact for a moment, then he continued on.  Since he’d come from the direction of my camp, I was concerned, but there was not much I could do after the fact–so, angler that I am, I kept on fishing.  Later, I crossed over, and back tracked the bear toward my camp.  I was amazed to discover that the bear’s tracks had made a wide circle *around* my camp, in an obvious attempt to avoid contact with humans (that would be me, such as it is). Understandable, certainly, but I never counted on that happening again. Even though my next day’s hike took my upstream also, I didn’t spot the bear again.  (And, oh yes, I have had California black bears in camp, trying to get my food, on other trips.  Usually they’re pretty benign; shouting, banging pots and pans, throwing rocks will run them off.  I insanely chased a bear out of camp one morning.  I chased him up to the top of a hill.  I was stone out of breath, he was still fresh, and acted like he wanted to play some more.  I skedaddled.) The moral of this story is to always exercise the best "bear discipline" you can while in bear country; and you’ll catch lots of fish, too. Enjoy your trip, Anglerboy — Trout fear me, Women want me. http://www.midtown.net/~angler/

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– Now booking Cape Cod, MA inshore fly fishing wading trips for stripers for the 97 season. I supply all tackle and flies as well as casting instructions if needed. If you don’t score stripers, I don’t get paid. Fair enough? $125/single $200/two anglers for a full day wading trip. Email me http://www.flyfishing-the-salt.com. Good fishing…Ted Bobetsky

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– Now booking Cape Cod, MA inshore fly fishing wading trips for stripers for the 97 season. I supply all tackle and flies as well as casting instructions if needed. If you don’t score stripers, I don’t get paid. Fair enough? $125/single $200/two anglers for a full day wading trip. Email me http://www.flyfishing-the-salt.com. Email references given upon request. Good fishing…Ted Bobetsky

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It’s Friday at 3+ pm on th ewest coast and I just finished reading all my mail and catching up my newsgroups. I’m submitting this post because of an alarming trend I’ve noticed lately….you know, these 3 groups (alt.fishing, rec.outdoors.fishing, rec.outdoors.fishing.fly) seem to get POSTED TO MORE ON THE WEEKENDS than any of the others I’m involved with! I remember my Dad telling me when I was a kid "the reason you don’t catch any fish is your’re too busy fartin’ around instead of fishin’" Well ladies and gents, the same applies to the rest of you out there..fish at least for a coupla’ hours this weekend or teach some kid how to cast or tie a fly, tie a clinch, blood or surgeon’s knot or cast with a bait casting reel….BUT STAY OFF THE NET….the holes are too big, and the fish SLIPP rihght through…. My thoughts, I’m going to the Delta tonight for cats..wish me luck! Larry  #:)#

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I had a boss once who was fond of saying you don’t catch any fish unless you have a line in the water.  The older I get, the wiser he sounds.

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Larry!  I  thought you were coming up to Chico to catch some shad this weekend!  I’ve went out to the river Thursday  and  Friday nights to look for you — no Larry. Oh well.  Nothing lost.  Mike only caught 20 something shad on Thursday night, while I only caught in the teens… Friday was slower — I only caught 4 shad in the 45 minutes before darkness fell.  Some damned striper fisherman was hogging my hotspot fishing for them dumb critters, so I didn’t get as many  shad as I could have. He managed to catch a  13 inch rainbow on a striper hook with a piece of anchovy.  But no stripers.  Weirdest thing I ever saw.  (Well, not quite.) — Jim McElroy Calif. State Univ., Chico

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I had a boss once who was fond of saying you don’t catch any fish unless you have a line in the water.  The older I get, the wiser he sounds.

He sounds pretty stupid to me.  You better have a lure or a hook and bait out there too.   Been plenty of times when all I had was a line in  the water and I never got a fish, not once. — Jim McElroy Calif. State Univ., Chico

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Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much.

Mike. I’m disappointed.  You should have dropped me aline!  Anyway, the rivers up 130CFS, and fishing is quite good.  SJW’s, Miracle Nymphs, Brassies, and of course the ubiquitous Buckskin.  Get up here while the water’s still up, and you should get some fishing.  Also: small midge stuff(18-24) will work right now.  Canyons a zoo as always, best seems to be below Trumbull as far as Oxyoke.  Seen some guys below oxyoke but no clue to their success. Swayback Chaz

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: Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, : and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be : appreciated. : You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down : to the Platte very much.         The best suggestion that  I could think of for the South Platte would be to get a copy of Roger Hill’s (I think that is his name) book "Flyfishing the South Platte".  It is a very well written book and goes through hatches, patterns, etc,etc…         I just started fishing (fly) about 6 months ago and have caught lots of fish down in Cheesman and Waterton Canyons…         A few brief words of advice from my box, never go down there without RS-2 (sz 18-22), something colorful like red disco midges (sz 20), san juan worms if the flow is high, and scuds.  There are lots of other nymphs that do real well down there also…         Good luck!!!!!

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: muskrat/copper. Terminal setup: 6′ braided butt to about 3X, then a 3.5′ 8X : tippet, BB shot about 10" up from the fly, indicator adj to depth. 8X ?!?!? You gotta be kidding me !  It must take you 30 minutes to land a 10 inch fish ?  These fish is gonna die my man… With a friendly tone, Tim Walker

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: : Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, : : and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be : : appreciated. The So. Platte from Cheesman down is (IMHO) a complete waste of time. It used to be wonderful.  Now the snobs line the banks and the fish themselves turn their noses up at your flies.  Why anyone would drive south from Ft. Collins is beyond me.  Go North my man.  Wyoming awaits you. But, if you go to the Platte, take along your 7X and your Orvis addition Jeep. Happy Holidays, Tim Walker

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much. Mike. I’m disappointed.  You should have dropped me aline!  Anyway, the rivers up 130CFS, and fishing is quite good.  SJW’s, Miracle Nymphs, Brassies, and of course the ubiquitous Buckskin.  Get up here while the water’s still up, and you should get some fishing.  Also: small midge stuff(18-24) will work right now.  Canyons a zoo as always, best seems to be below Trumbull as far as Oxyoke.  Seen some guys below oxyoke but no clue to their success. Swayback Chaz

Went last week and yesterday, fished Trumbull both times. The flow has been 130 for awhile now, but I can’t say the fishing’s been that good. Landed 4-5 fish each trip, all later in the day. Half on a #22 red midge larvae, half on #24 muskrat/copper. Terminal setup: 6′ braided butt to about 3X, then a 3.5′ 8X tippet, BB shot about 10" up from the fly, indicator adj to depth. Wouldn’t bother below Oxyoke, lots of ice. Probably frozen across around Night- hawk on down. — Dave Ridge Storage Technology Corp

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 The So. Platte from Cheesman down is (IMHO) a complete waste of time.  It used to be wonderful.  Now the snobs line the banks and the fish  themselves turn their noses up at your flies.  Why anyone would  drive south from Ft. Collins is beyond me.  Go North my man.  Wyoming  awaits you. I don’t know about snobs lining the banks, but the guides sure are since Spinney has fallen on hard times. However I don’t

know where one would find open water this time of year within a reasonable drive. Yours virtually, Gary W. Godden Denver, Colorado

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Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much.

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