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The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name. Small world. That’s my wife’s aunt. Drew

Hit me just now. Her name is Dawn. That the one? — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back.

Not as long as I live here, anyway.

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

– Tight Lines, –Walt Fly Fishing NC & more… http://www.ezflyfish.com http://www.wilsoncreekoutfitters.com

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo

That’s near Morganton, right? — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo That’s near Morganton, right? —

actually, near boone. the store is in morganton. –walt

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actually, near boone. the store is in morganton. –walt

Gotcha. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Hit me just now. Her name is Dawn. That the one?

That’s the one. Drew

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……I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are…..

Uh oh. Wolfgang somewhere in stanley.

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff Noted. —

uh oh. Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

UH OH! Wolfgang

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff Noted. — uh oh. Charles Davis   K4SWB <I’m The NRA UH OH! Wolfgang

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are.

I’m in Atlanta, but it’s the source of most of the folks fishing the Nantahala. <g — Charlie…

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here.

I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back. Mark  –aka Opie, Op, asshole, shit-maggot–

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The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name.

Small world. That’s my wife’s aunt. Drew

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. I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk.

I’ve never heard it pronounced that way, but then I know few sofisticates. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back.

I went there once, and that was enough. Mark  –aka Opie, Op, asshole, shit-maggot–

Sounds like we might be kin. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks.

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro.

        sweet baby jesus–rockingham county.  where do you keep your trailer? I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks.

        now charles, this here ain’t one of them 1984 big brother deals, is it?         just kiddin, of course.  some of my best friends live in rockingham county. wayno 1519 whilden place greensboro  27408

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says… I’m in Charlotte. Grew up in Asheville with time spent in Watauga County. You familiar with any Angels or Trents up that way? Matter of fact I’ll be up there on the 9th for a wedding. Drew Patterson

The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name. Betty Sue Trent ran the record store, and I went to school with some Trents, but that was loooooong ago, and in another galaxy, it seems. Got some neighbors named Patterson. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff

Noted. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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says…    sweet baby jesus–rockingham county.  where do you keep your trailer?

I should be so lucky. Still living in the truck, ‘cept when Shirley needs it to get to work at the beauty saloon.    now charles, this here ain’t one of them 1984 big brother deals, is it?

Nah. Just curious. What started me thinking was that it seems that whenever you all have a clave, they make the NC boys get off by themselves.    just kiddin, of course.  some of my best friends live in rockingham county.

I stayed in G’boro for a while, till she tossed me out. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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On the assumption that displaced Tarheels count, I’m just outside St Louis. Born in Murphy (Cherokee county) and grew up in Henderson county. I figger Missouri appreciates the cultural benefit provided by North Carolinians so much that they just won’t let me go. Still go to Murphy several times a year and have to go to Charlotte occasionally. I do have an annual NC non-resident fishing license. Bob Patton

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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says… On the assumption that displaced Tarheels count, I’m just outside St Louis. Born in Murphy (Cherokee county) and grew up in Henderson county. I figger Missouri appreciates the cultural benefit provided by North Carolinians so much that they just won’t let me go. Still go to Murphy several times a year and have to go to Charlotte occasionally. I do have an annual NC non-resident fishing license. Bob Patton

Everyone counts. I’ve just started a list so I can put people and places together. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are.

Rah-leigh.

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. Rah-leigh.

Thankee. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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I’m in Charlotte. Grew up in Asheville with time spent in Watauga County. You familiar with any Angels or Trents up that way? Matter of fact I’ll be up there on the 9th for a wedding. Drew Patterson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Am about to embark on a trip to this area and wondering on the fishing …..what kind of fish and equipment will I need…..must you have a boat or is there bank fishing ??? Thanks for any help !!

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Am about to embark on a trip to this area and wondering on the fishing …..what kind of fish and equipment will I need…..must you have a boat or is there bank fishing ??? Thanks for any help !!

What I remember fishing and working in the area over a decade ago, there is some fishing in the upper White and Black Rivers outside the reservation and on a small lake southeast of Pine Top, past the ski resort (don’t have any maps handy).  I never fished the Little Colorado River northwest of Pine Top.  If you want to fish on the Apache Reser- vation, namely the lower White and Black Rivers and upper Salt River, you need to get a permit from the Tribe at White River (town) on the reservation, southeast of Pinetop. You should check with the Arizona Department of Game and Fish at: http://www.gf.state.az.us/ I can only remember fly-fishing for small mouth bass in the upper Black River, USFS lands east of the reservation, and didn’t have much luck then, but the country is beautiful. Good luck. –Scott–

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Am about to embark on a trip to this area and wondering on the fishing …..what kind of fish and equipment will I need…..must you have a boat or is there bank fishing ??? Thanks for any help !!

You can indulge in both, as you please.  The larger lakes have boats for rent, but get there early if you’re going on the weekend.  This is a popular area!  There are plenty of  high country waters, but I think you’ll enjoy the White Mountain Apache Reservation lakes the most.  They have a very pro-active conservation program, and have several lure-only, and catch & release or slot limit waters.  You can even rent a lake for your own amusement if you want to blow a few hundred dollars.  Here’s a link to their site: http://www.wmatoutdoors.com/index.htm Enjoy your visit! Sandy

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Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries

My friend’s father was a weapons salseman for Raytheon based in the UAE. He told me the whole area was teeming with fish.  Showed me a picture of him holding up a sailfish.  He himself wasn’t into fishing but was surprised at how good the fishing was.  This was about 10 years ago. Sorry, don’t have any more specific info. Mu

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Last question first, no, I do not live there but have been in that area too many times to count – maybe a hundred – often for a couple of months per-visit.

I was brought up there and just in the process of moving back There are (were) a couple of hotels in Oman that promoted fishing as part of a tourism package, but FF-ing is seldom seen in the Gulf.

of effect or awareness ? With a British passport, you have a greater degree of freedom in areas where the Crown formerly held sway (still does).

I knew it was useful for something ……   The Emirates are safer than most US or UK territories,

One of the reasons I want to move back out there  but not Pakistan.  There are lots of fish-bearing fresh water rivers and streams in Pakistan, particularly in the mountainous areas, but those are mostly in/near the disputed zones and, ignoring the cross-border risks, there are banditos who have absolutely no regard to who you are or where you came from, as long as someone will pay for your return.  If you’re captured and nobody seems interested in paying, you become fertilizer and the next "guest" comes into view.

Yet again politics get in the way enough said on this one ……oh well some day … Be careful.

or just sensible and not go rgds JF

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I have hear the ‘Sailfish Mecca’ comment from a few people ….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries My friend’s father was a weapons salseman for Raytheon based in the UAE. He told me the whole area was teeming with fish.  Showed me a picture of him holding up a sailfish.  He himself wasn’t into fishing but was surprised at how good the fishing was.  This was about 10 years ago. Sorry, don’t have any more specific info. Mu

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During one trip to the Gulf, a local English language newspaper had an article (with photo), about a large black marlin that was caught in the Indian Ocean, just below the Straits of Hormuz (Oman).  I believe that an Australian or Kiwi had begun a charter fishing business in Muscat for the purpose of catching the "big fish". Generally, the Gulf waters are shallow, excepting specific "lanes" that are regularly dredged from the northern end of the straits to the oil terminals off Saudi and Mina al-Ahmadi off Kuwait to support the deep draft tankers.  Most of the "big fish" talk that I’ve heard was specific to the deeper waters in the northern Indian Ocean along the southern coast of OMAN.  Keep in mind that the distances are short between these places and with a Brit passport, you can move freely between any of those countries without the necessity for visas or NOC’s. The whole area is a fascinating place with vestiges of history traceable back over a long span of time (human time).  Fishing is only one recreational aspect. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have hear the ‘Sailfish Mecca’ comment from a few people ….. Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries My friend’s father was a weapons salseman for Raytheon based in the UAE. He told me the whole area was teeming with fish.  Showed me a picture of him holding up a sailfish.  He himself wasn’t into fishing but was surprised at how good the fishing was.  This was about 10 years ago. Sorry, don’t have any more specific info. Mu

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Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries or freshwater in Pakistan thanks

Hi, My brother spent time in the Persian Gulf. He always talked about stripping streamers there with a very large rod. To see a picture of my brother in the Persian Gulf (although he’s not fishing at the moment), go to http://www.montana.com/dno/brian.htm . Scroll toward the bottom and you’ll see Marcus Nelson in the Persian Gulf but be prepared for a large K download. There’s lots of photos. Other than that, thats as close as I can come. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno 406-626-4022

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thanks Brian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries or freshwater in Pakistan thanks Hi, My brother spent time in the Persian Gulf. He always talked about stripping streamers there with a very large rod. To see a picture of my brother in the Persian Gulf (although he’s not fishing at the moment), go to http://www.montana.com/dno/brian.htm . Scroll toward the bottom and you’ll see Marcus Nelson in the Persian Gulf but be prepared for a large K download. There’s lots of photos. Other than that, thats as close as I can come. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno 406-626-4022

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Hi Tom thanks for the quick response Yes, but it’s not popular.  I have flyfished along the Northern coast of the Emirates (West of the cement factory at the Omani border) a few times, but most fishing is with bait.  Of interest, there are BIG tarpon in those warm waters.

Is this due to results ….or simply that fly is not promoted locally ? One of the most nervous moments of my life occurred in about 1989 about 5 miles off the coast of Ras al-Khaimah, while fishing on a Friday. Around midday, we were bottom-fishing over a big rock pile and pretty oblivious to our surroundings when I noticed an Iranian gunboat about a half mile away and closing.  Note that we were clearly in UAE waters, but there was no way to know what the Irani crew had in mind.  I was prepared to eat my US passport, when a US Navy helicopter rose above the horizon and began to prosecute the gunboat.  There was no offensive action by either and the gunboat retreated toward his territorial waters while we began thinking about getting out of that area.

I have heard of the Navy prtecting fisheries ….but that is dramatic ….. We did catch a few Cobia which we enjoyed that night, cooked over charcoal and brushed with lemon butter.

Sounds marvelous As for freshwater fishing in Pakistan, DO NOT plan on venturing anywhere in the bush unless you’re in the immediate company of an armed band. Check with the US Embassy in Islamabad or the Consulate in Karachi before you make any plans.

I am British so will liase with my Embassy there …..is it worth it is there any fishing to be had ? Did you live in the Emirates ? thanks again James

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Last question first, no, I do not live there but have been in that area too many times to count – maybe a hundred – often for a couple of months per-visit. There are (were) a couple of hotels in Oman that promoted fishing as part of a tourism package, but FF-ing is seldom seen in the Gulf. With a British passport, you have a greater degree of freedom in areas where the Crown formerly held sway (still does).  The Emirates are safer than most US or UK territories, but not Pakistan.  There are lots of fish-bearing fresh water rivers and streams in Pakistan, particularly in the mountainous areas, but those are mostly in/near the disputed zones and, ignoring the cross-border risks, there are banditos who have absolutely no regard to who you are or where you came from, as long as someone will pay for your return.  If you’re captured and nobody seems interested in paying, you become fertilizer and the next "guest" comes into view. Be careful. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Tom thanks for the quick response Yes, but it’s not popular.  I have flyfished along the Northern coast of the Emirates (West of the cement factory at the Omani border) a few times, but most fishing is with bait.  Of interest, there are BIG tarpon in those warm waters. Is this due to results ….or simply that fly is not promoted locally ? One of the most nervous moments of my life occurred in about 1989 about 5 miles off the coast of Ras al-Khaimah, while fishing on a Friday. Around midday, we were bottom-fishing over a big rock pile and pretty oblivious to our surroundings when I noticed an Iranian gunboat about a half mile away and closing.  Note that we were clearly in UAE waters, but there was no way to know what the Irani crew had in mind.  I was prepared to eat my US passport, when a US Navy helicopter rose above the horizon and began to prosecute the gunboat.  There was no offensive action by either and the gunboat retreated toward his territorial waters while we began thinking about getting out of that area. I have heard of the Navy prtecting fisheries ….but that is dramatic ….. We did catch a few Cobia which we enjoyed that night, cooked over charcoal and brushed with lemon butter. Sounds marvelous As for freshwater fishing in Pakistan, DO NOT plan on venturing anywhere in the bush unless you’re in the immediate company of an armed band. Check with the US Embassy in Islamabad or the Consulate in Karachi before you make any plans. I am British so will liase with my Embassy there …..is it worth it is there any fishing to be had ? Did you live in the Emirates ? thanks again James

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Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries or freshwater in Pakistan thanks

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Yes, but it’s not popular.  I have flyfished along the Northern coast of the Emirates (West of the cement factory at the Omani border) a few times, but most fishing is with bait.  Of interest, there are BIG tarpon in those warm waters. One of the most nervous moments of my life occurred in about 1989 about 5 miles off the coast of Ras al-Khaimah, while fishing on a Friday. Around midday, we were bottom-fishing over a big rock pile and pretty oblivious to our surroundings when I noticed an Iranian gunboat about a half mile away and closing.  Note that we were clearly in UAE waters, but there was no way to know what the Irani crew had in mind.  I was prepared to eat my US passport, when a US Navy helicopter rose above the horizon and began to prosecute the gunboat.  There was no offensive action by either and the gunboat retreated toward his territorial waters while we began thinking about getting out of that area. We did catch a few Cobia which we enjoyed that night, cooked over charcoal and brushed with lemon butter. As for freshwater fishing in Pakistan, DO NOT plan on venturing anywhere in the bush unless you’re in the immediate company of an armed band. Check with the US Embassy in Islamabad or the Consulate in Karachi before you make any plans. Tom Hi Does anyone know if there is any saltwater flyfishing to be had in these countries or freshwater in Pakistan thanks

– Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you’d be paying taxes to Richmond instead of Washington.                                              anonymous

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http://www.infoarchitects.com/products.htm this address contains a demo of a shareware program called easy shop * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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Sometime back I d/l a shareware version of a program called Shop Layout, at least that is what I think it was called <g. But, alas, my system has since crashed and now that I have purchased my new TS and some other pieces, I thought I would layout how I want my shop set up. This software allowed me to give the footprint of most any equipment, benches etc and move them around so as to get the best fit. Anybody know of something similar, or better yet, the web address to get the same program? Mark (as in fishing) Beautiful Oregon…

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Thanx for the help~!

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I am kinda new to fly fishing and new to this group. I do lots of fishing but not very much fly fishing. I got a fly rod 2 years ago and just put line on it today. I have some "No-tie" things that you put into the line that holds the leader into the backing. Is there an easy way to get the no-tie on there?? I am having trouble. Thanx

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I am kinda new to fly fishing and new to this group. I do lots of fishing but not very much fly fishing. I got a fly rod 2 years ago and just put line on it today. I have some "No-tie" things that you put into the line that holds the leader into the backing. Is there an easy way to get the no-tie on there?? I am having trouble. Thanx

So we’re talking about the same things the backing goes on the spool first. The backing connects to the fly line and the leader attaches to the fly line. By "no-tie" do you mean the braided loop connectors that go over the fly line or the metal eyes that you stick in the line? If it’s the latter the best thing to do is loose them and tie the backing directly to the flyline and then the leader directly to the fly line. In almost every box of fly line there is a little booklet that shows the knots to use to attach backing to the spool, the line to the backing and the leader to the line. Learn the knots – they can save the day as well as your equipment. The braided loop connectors are a good alternative to tying the backing and the leader to the fly line. These slip over the fly line and use a piece of heat shrink tubing to anchor the end to the line. When the loop is pulled the braid cinches down on the fly line and holds tight.  Now with the loop on the fly line and a loop tied in the leader and backing you can quickly connect the three lines together with the loop to loop handshake knot. When you tie a loop in the backing make it’s big enough that you can make the connection with the flyline while it’s still on the spool it came on.

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        Are they some belgian fly fishers in this group, I would like to talk with, about our experiences in the different rivers within and out the country.         Je voudrais

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anyone have current conditions on knights ferry area of stanislaus thanks in advance

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Hey Ken , are you out there…? You should try Ken Lindsay at flyfishing online.  He will surely be able to help you out. I can’t find his address or # right now but he should be listed. Cheers — gp

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(Carlton Fung) writes: anyone have current conditions on knights ferry area of stanislaus thanks in advance

Yes,  it’s closed right now.  Opens back up the first of the year.  That section of the river is closed between Oct. 15th and Jan. 1st each year to allow the salmon to make their spawning run.  I believe the upper part of the Stan around Big Trees is still open, but you need to check the reg’s to be sure.

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check the regs – I believe the Stanislaus is closed until the end of the   year for the salmon to spawn.         gr

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I beleive the upper part of the Stan closes November 15.–Crashjibe

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Will be in L.A. last two weeks in January.  Would greatly appreciate any and all information and recommendations on good fishing within a one day range of LA. city limits

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writes: Will be in L.A. last two weeks in January.  Would greatly appreciate any and all information and recommendations on good fishing within a one day range of LA. city limits

Ocean or freshwater. Fly fishing only?

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Anyone have any tips on flyfishing for Mooneye in the Caledonia, Cayuga area of the Grand River. Many Thanks in Advance — gp

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Anyone have any tips on flyfishing for Mooneye in the Caledonia, Cayuga area of the Grand River.

My experience on the Ottawa R. has been: 1 — can be caught only when rising to some sort of a hatch (otherwise live deep, it seems.) 2 — need fine tippets and matching at least size of natural. 3 — feed in schools but are easily scared;  when you wade towards a school they sheer off;  you have to wait until they come within casting range. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Wouldn’t you love to be there? Actually, I’ve never been. I’d like to know what it’s like in mid-July. I like beautiful, cool settings in my travel trailer with a crackling creek nearby, trout at the surface with their mouths agape. Can I make this a vacation that my non-angling wife would enjoy, too? Where is the best place to drop my rig? ……Straight leaders and no brush behind!

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Can I make this a vacation that my non-angling wife would enjoy, too? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -NO

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Wouldn’t you love to be there? Actually, I’ve never been. I’d like to know what it’s like in mid-July. I like beautiful, cool settings in my travel trailer with a crackling creek nearby, trout at the surface with their mouths agape. Can I make this a vacation that my non-angling wife would enjoy, too? Where is the best place to drop my rig? …….Straight leaders and no brush behind!

the fish are abundant in the entire length of the quality waters.  For wading, it is always crowded, but less so in the middle of the week. If you plan to float the river, you will not have to fight the crowds as much, but there are many more floaters that when I first visited the river in ‘88.  I lived within four hours drive, and it was in my sales territory, so was able to fish it often until moving away last about a year ago.  A great area … check in at Abe’s Motel and Fly Shop for the latest info. Dee Crabtree DeeCrab*ibm.net

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Can I make this a vacation that my non-angling wife would enjoy, too?

If she likes to sit in the heat and read, or hike the rugged canyons, yes. I suggest you try to get her into a flyfishing school before you leave and maybe she will fish with you …. and maybe she won’t.  My wife is good for about 30 minutes of fishing before she is ready to head home! She does like the rugged beauty of the San Juan River however! Dee Crabtree DeeCrab*ibm.net

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Can I make this a vacation that my non-angling wife would enjoy, too?

Try leaving her in Durango,CO.  She can shop or take the scenic train or wahtever the heck it is my wife did last year.  Plus you can stop into Duranglers for some hints from the guys there.  Durango’s also a good base to hop over to the Dolores.  Nice tailwater fishing there, too. Jim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services    Misha,    Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From    personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are    difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost    certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). How ’bout pre-tying on the tippet, with a loop at the end, for a loop-to-loop -type of connection? — Matt Meola NRA Life, Libertarian, Militiaman Gun control means using two hands. Live free or die!

Matt, A loop-to-loop connection between the tippet and the next section of the leader might not allow the fly to turn over as easily (compared with, say a surgeons or barrel knot).  Also, it would seem to be a little too bulky for my taste, which could possibly put down some fish. Also, I have my doubts concerning the practicality of carrying around a hundred or so flys with tippets already attached (I’m implying that this was what you were getting at previously.  I apologize in advance if I misinterpreted your posting.). Best Regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing..

Clips or swivels are too heavy and are not made in sizes small enough for the flies needed sometimes by trout. The simplest solution is to learn the turle knot, which is easy (can almost be tied blindfold or at night) and does not mash hackles. —  |          Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Rd., Carlsbad         |  |        Springs, Ont., Canada K0A 1K0; tel: (613) 822-0734       |  |  "What I’ve always liked about science is its independence from |  |  authority"–Ontario Science Centre (name on file) 10 July 1981 |

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services    Misha,    Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From    personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are    difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost    certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). How ’bout pre-tying on the tippet, with a loop at the end, for a loop-to-loop -type of connection? — Matt Meola NRA Life, Libertarian, Militiaman Gun control means using two hands. Live free or die!

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing.. Misha

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing.. Misha

Misha, Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). Best Regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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