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Could you be more specific on where in B.C. you are going to finish your schooling. Hi all I’m currently living in Ontario. And going to move back to BC to finish some schooling. So now that I have a choice on where to live, I want a place for flyfishing on the weekends. Any requests or comments would be greatly appreciated.. thanx
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I request that your residence have an extra room, set aside specifically for ROFFian visitors, you hold a Clave once a year in August, you never marry and you are to never move again! Opie **Psychic To The Recently Deceased** Hi all I’m currently living in Ontario. And going to move back to BC to finish some schooling. So now that I have a choice on where to live, I want a place for flyfishing on the weekends. Any requests or comments would be greatly appreciated.. thanx
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Hi all I’m currently living in Ontario. And going to move back to BC to finish some schooling. So now that I have a choice on where to live, I want a place for flyfishing on the weekends. Any requests or comments would be greatly appreciated.. thanx
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » Best under $100 Rod for smallmouth Bassin'?
Best under $100 Rod for smallmouth Bassin'?
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Agree that the Sage discovery rules on the $200 price point. St Croix the way to go on the $100 level. Great rods, great company. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Mark, Just pick a winner? The only way I know to proceed from here is for you to cast all these rods? The next catagory is the $200+ range with the Sage DS2 being at the front of I’ve decided on a 6 weight fly rod to start and I’m wondering what you all feel about the below choices I’m espcially interested in the Bass Pro White River, the Cabela’s Fish Eagle, and the Reddington Red.fly: Those are my "high three" based on what I know so far. Bass Pro Hobbs Creek $69.95 Bass Pro White River Classic $99.95 Cabela’s Sweetwater $85.00 Cabela’s Fish Eagle $99.99 St. Croix Pro Graphite $85.00 Reddington Red.fly $75.00 Coutland CL $99.95 — "The number of job openings for Philosopher-Kings is limited in the late 20th Century." – Dr. Megabyte Tuba Playing Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
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Hi Mark, Just pick a winner? The only way I know to proceed from here is for you to cast all these rods? The next catagory is the $200+ range with the Sage DS2 being at the front of – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve decided on a 6 weight fly rod to start and I’m wondering what you all feel about the below choices I’m espcially interested in the Bass Pro White River, the Cabela’s Fish Eagle, and the Reddington Red.fly: Those are my "high three" based on what I know so far. Bass Pro Hobbs Creek $69.95 Bass Pro White River Classic $99.95 Cabela’s Sweetwater $85.00 Cabela’s Fish Eagle $99.99 St. Croix Pro Graphite $85.00 Reddington Red.fly $75.00 Coutland CL $99.95 — "The number of job openings for Philosopher-Kings is limited in the late 20th Century." – Dr. Megabyte Tuba Playing Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
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Asadi, Just a quick story to share about flyrods, channel cats and kids. My daughter was with me at a pond and she was catching pan fish and bass using a soft Orvis (Flea) 6′6" 4 wt rod. Out of nowhere, a thirty-inch cat fish rose and took the fly, he was hooked in the corner of his mouth in the grissle. Her and her brother ‘fought’ this fish starting around 6 pm. She was 12 and he was 14. It gets dark in the summer around 9:30pm. They took turns as they tired. I went and got the pickup so we would have lights. Fortunately, the pond wasn’t so big that when he ran, the fish run out of pond before the kids ran out of backing. Eventually, they tired the fish enough that Dad could wade out and place the net under him. It was 10:30pm. A few pictures and the fish was released. That is what memories are made of. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just bought my first graphite the other day. A Cortland CL, 5/6 weight, 8′6"……. <<snipped Personally, fishing a lot out of a kayak, and considering the usual circumstances I run into..occassional carp and channel cat..if I could afford a rod for every occasion I believe a 7/8 would be my choice for
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The Reddington Red Start took best overall rod a few years ago. I haven’t heard much about them since Orvis bought them. Priced at a $100 they were considered a very good buy. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious if others have any opinions on the Reddingtons and their comparative quality. I have a 5/6 wt Red.Start and a 9wt Red.Fly. The fly shop owner talked me into a Red.Fly even though he could have easily talked me into a Red.Start at the time (and probably knew it). I’m too much of a novice at this to offer an opinion on comparitive quality especially since the only thing I’ve ever known is Reddington. But I will say I’ve never had a problem with their warranty. I snapped the tip on the Red.Start walking out to a pond one time and the fly shop let me swap it out with them the very next day (though I’ve since learned some fly shops want you to deal with Reddington directly). But certainly interested in any unbiased opinions on the relative quality of Reddington. I was definitely going to buy my son a cheaper Cabela rod and reel though (until I’m sure he’s going to enjoy it). Thank you, Shawn
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I’m curious if others have any opinions on the Reddingtons and their comparative quality. I have a 5/6 wt Red.Start and a 9wt Red.Fly. The fly shop owner talked me into a Red.Fly even though he could have easily talked me into a Red.Start at the time (and probably knew it). I’m too much of a novice at this to offer an opinion on comparitive quality especially since the only thing I’ve ever known is Reddington. But I will say I’ve never had a problem with their warranty. I snapped the tip on the Red.Start walking out to a pond one time and the fly shop let me swap it out with them the very next day (though I’ve since learned some fly shops want you to deal with Reddington directly). But certainly interested in any unbiased opinions on the relative quality of Reddington. I was definitely going to buy my son a cheaper Cabela rod and reel though (until I’m sure he’s going to enjoy it). Thank you, Shawn
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Mark E. Sunderlin Winchester, VA
Mark, Haul yourself down to the Fly Fishing show in College Park Maryland this weekend. Try the rods, pick the one which works best for you. Catch the seminar on Saturday at 10:00. Harry Murray’s talk on smallmouth fishing. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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I just bought my first graphite the other day. A Cortland CL, 5/6 weight, 8′6"……. I’ve used primarily glass rods, and do primarily smallmouth fishing as that is the dominate fish in my area. The rather sensitive, delicate nature of graphite is taking some getting used to, at times I think I would have done well with a 7/8 weight as far as smallmouth goes but I was trying to get a rod I could also use for trout. Personally, fishing a lot out of a kayak, and considering the usual circumstances I run into..occassional carp and channel cat..if I could afford a rod for every occasion I believe a 7/8 would be my choice for With glass I found my 7/8/9 wieghts to be too much for how I prefer to fish, smallmouth in the riverwise, but these graphites are a whole different story. FWIW I found a book "Smallmouth Strategies for the Fly Rod" by Ryan to be – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’ve decided on a 6 weight fly rod to start and I’m wondering what you all feel about the below choices I’m espcially interested in the Bass Pro White River, the Cabela’s Fish Eagle, and the Reddington Red.fly: Those are my "high three" based on what I know so far. Bass Pro Hobbs Creek $69.95 Bass Pro White River Classic $99.95 Cabela’s Sweetwater $85.00 Cabela’s Fish Eagle $99.99 St. Croix Pro Graphite $85.00 Reddington Red.fly $75.00 Coutland CL $99.95 — "The number of job openings for Philosopher-Kings is limited in the late 20th Century." – Dr. Megabyte Tuba Playing Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
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Bass Pro Hobbs Creek $69.95 Bass Pro White River Classic $99.95 Cabela’s Sweetwater $85.00 Cabela’s Fish Eagle $99.99 St. Croix Pro Graphite $85.00 Reddington Red.fly $75.00 Coutland CL $99.95
The Sweetwater owned by a friend of mine seemed rather stiff. The St. Croix at least has a decent warranty and is limber enough for lobbing clousers or split shot. I would recommend it. Have no experience with the other rods you mentioned. Mu
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I’ve decided on a 6 weight fly rod to start and I’m wondering what you all feel about the below choices I’m espcially interested in the Bass Pro White River, the Cabela’s Fish Eagle, and the Reddington Red.fly: Those are my "high three" based on what I know so far. Bass Pro Hobbs Creek $69.95 Bass Pro White River Classic $99.95 Cabela’s Sweetwater $85.00 Cabela’s Fish Eagle $99.99 St. Croix Pro Graphite $85.00 Reddington Red.fly $75.00 Coutland CL $99.95 — "The number of job openings for Philosopher-Kings is limited in the late 20th Century." – Dr. Megabyte Tuba Playing Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » help a guy out.
help a guy out.
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Roffians, A friend of mine wants to get on ROFF but doesn’t really know how to do it. He is using AOL, which I’m not familiar with. I was hoping one of you who have AOL could give him some guidance. His name is Dennis, his email is Thanks Tim Apple — "Bamboo is Better"
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A friend of mine wants to get on ROFF but doesn’t really know how to do it. He is using AOL, which I’m not familiar with. I was hoping one of you who have AOL could give him some guidance. His name is Dennis, his email is Thanks
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » New Zealand Top 5 Spots
New Zealand Top 5 Spots
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Planning a trip next Jan/Feb … would be interested in opinions on the top spots on South Island for good flyfishing … plan on doing a little guided and a little on-my-own fishing … love rivers over lakes always … thanks
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Planning a trip next Jan/Feb … would be interested in opinions on the top spots on South Island for good flyfishing … plan on doing a little guided and a little on-my-own fishing … love rivers over lakes always … thanks
John, I’ve been to the South Island twice. (You can read about it on my web site www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363 with pictures. The thumbnails will load a larger image if you click on them). There’s a lot to recommend about just about anywhere on the South Island. Most of my experience is in Otago (out of Wanaka) and Southlands (north of Gore). Absolute must stop is the Mataura river. Can recommend guides to you if you email me. Michael
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I can recommend the Mataura River (the evening rise is spectacular), and also the Hurunui River if it has a good flow…unlikely at that time of year. Most of us Sth Islanders fish the lakes over summer, as the braided rivers are very low. Try Lakes Hawea and Tekapo in Otago. The West Coast gets most of the rain, so rivers like the Grey will fish well, but get a guide for these. Tight Lines Greg Christchurch, NZ — FREEDOM is neither a state of mind, nor a state of being. Rather, it is an essential part of every living persons’ existence
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Estee Lauder lady live and on my TV!!!!!!
Estee Lauder lady live and on my TV!!!!!!
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Wayne Knight Geneva IL You’re right Wayne but Walt grew up in Florida. Somewhere in the swamps I think.
mango infested islands loaded with big tusked hogs and big, slow moving turtles. That’s why it takes him so long to do anything and is why women love him. ; ) —
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » Fly Line
Fly Line
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How often should you change your line. Mine has been on a year but does not seemed damaged. — Praise God for the changing of the seasons; Baseball to Football, Fishing to Hunting.
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I say that you should change your line when it wears out and loses floatability or, er… sinkability (?). Bryce Carron Rockford, Tn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -How often should you change your line. Mine has been on a year but does not seemed damaged.
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if it splashes down when casting, is cracked or sinks, get a new one
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How often should you change your line. Mine has been on a year but does not seemed damaged. — Praise God for the changing of the seasons; Baseball to Football, Fishing to Hunting.
Hi All, Some lucky suckers get to fish every day, so they might get a new line every season. Other get out an average amount and need a line in 3 to 5 years. Some poor guys never get to go and their lines are still great after 20 years in the closet. You can usually tell by looking at the finish. If it looks like it is cracking or is sinking after it is cleaned and dressed, it is probably worn out. The top fly lines are still only $50. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com
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How often should you change your line. Mine has been on a year but does not seemed damaged.
The easy answer is when it wears out. The line will get stiff and crack, or start sinking when it wears out and then you should replace it. I replace mine about once a year, most people replace theirs every 3 to 5 years. If you don’t use it much it will last much longer if you keep it out of the sun and heat. Also, "cracking the whip" with your fly line will not only lose a lot of flies, but cause your line to crack and wear out prematurely. Hope this helps, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools Mt. Shasta Fly Fishing Schools http://www.thegrid.net/flyfish
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If I replace mine every time it splashes down while casting I’d need a new one every couple of casts. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – if it splashes down when casting, is cracked or sinks, get a new one
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I’m new to fly fishing and have just recently purchased my own equipment instead of using someone else’s. could you tell me how this line is supposed to go? Is it backing – line- leader- tippet? If so how much leader and how much tippet. I fish in Arkansas rivers (mostly the White and the Buffalo). Thanks, Alan Edwards
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I’m new to fly fishing and have just recently purchased my own equipment instead of using someone else’s. could you tell me how this line is supposed to go? Is it backing – line- leader- tippet? If so how
Yes "backing – line- leader- tippet" and then: Leaders for beginners should usually be about 9 feet. The tippet is simply the finest part of the leader next to the hook. Rough guideline: 3x tippet = 0.008" suits #12 hook 4x 007" #16 and similarly up and down. You need to replace the tippet when (after changing flies) it gets too short or too thick. New tippets should be roughly 18" inches (less if your dry fly does not "turn over" neatly, longer for more delicate touchdowns etc.) Backing is measured last, so as to fill up the reel, without squashing the line, once everything is unspooled and respooled the right way. A filled reel reduces line curl (and provides extra insurance if you hook a bigger fish than expected.) — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » 10 Best Flies- SURVEY- EVERYONE PLS READ
10 Best Flies- SURVEY- EVERYONE PLS READ
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I don’t have ten favorite flies and I would be hard pressed to just to give you the names of 30 flies. To me "favorite fly" means the one I like best, not 10 or 30. My favorite dry fly is a modified Horner Deer Hair, which tells you nothing because you have no idea how I modify it. Jack Horner is the inventor of the Humpy or Goofus Bug which is my next to my favorite dry fly. My favorite wet fly is a Western Coachnan and my favorite streamer is one of Keith Fulshers flies from his book "Tying and Fishing the Thunder Creek Series". — Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas
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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas
PERSON !! I do not want to tell you ! Harry
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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas
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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers.
Now you’re telling us the rules! My fly box isn’t that big, and I can’t remember all the names, just what works. 12 green ones, 16 black, 4 red, and 8 brown. Some are multi colored but who’s counting. — Doug Knight metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » FF; Art Form or Science? Leave the Kayak at home
FF; Art Form or Science? Leave the Kayak at home
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Great Post!! I had the advantage of learning an appreciation of nature & fishing from my father at an early age. Although he wasn’t a fly fisherman & we fished for bass, musky, northerns etc, he had a love of wilderness & we shared some wonderful times together. Since leaving my father’s home some thirty years ago & moving to Colorado, I’ve evolved into a fly fisherman through alot of reading, trial & error, and countless hours on the stream. The way I fish today, is very different from the fishing I did with my father, but it is firmly rooted in the appreciation of fish, water & nature I learned from him. I flyfish in my own way, that is more restrictive than George’s "one" definition. But this is FOR ME. I don’t define flyfishing for others by how I fish. I would probably be considered to be following the "Art Form.". For me, when things are "right", the pleasure is viseral, elementary & fundamental & may or may not involve catching fish. However, flaming, belittling other people’s ideas or ways of doing things, & self rightuous preachings do not advances one’s cause. In fact the opposite is the result. Like most things, flyfishing is personnal & individual. There are no rules except for those you choose to follow. There is no one right way. Willi
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I never used a strike indicator until about two years ago. My eyes are deteriorating because of diabetes and I have trouble seeing my leader/line. I put on a piece of yarn I got from my wife (Lefty’s idea), and was amazed at the strikes I was able to detect.
I limit the use of strike indicators for those times of day when I would otherwise be unable to see my leader, so I guess i’m as unethical as Dave. Anybody who uses anything to aid his visual capacity must be unethical; I demand that all of you unethical polaroid user/abusers turn yourselves in at once. Charlie
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<<…..However, flaming, belittling other people’s ideas or ways of doing things, & self rightuous preachings do not advances one’s cause. In fact the opposite is the result. A couple of great posts, especially the above. I learned to fly fish in the 40s from my mom and dad, on the Deerfield, the Westfield, and the Farmington rivers. We did not have most of the "neat" things available to fly fishermen today. We didn’t have zingers or nippers. And, we didn’t have strike indicators OR Gink. The flames I have seen on ROFF must come in jest, because if you approve of one innovation (Gink for instance) but disapprove of another (strike indicators, for instance), then you are surely a hypocrite of the first order. I never used a strike indicator until about two years ago. My eyes are deteriorating because of diabetes and I have trouble seeing my leader/line. I put on a piece of yarn I got from my wife (Lefty’s idea), and was amazed at the strikes I was able to detect. It was as if a was a boy in the 40s, fishing a wet fly! I also sometimes use the things when fishing a dry, for I find it difficult to see my #16 caddis in fast water. However, they do affect the drift in a negative way. Orvis’ Quick Site orange butt leaders are also helpful for me to see the fly. Fly fishing has always been a visceral thing with me (and probably with most other folk also!). And, it has always been a solitary venture. You may "go" with a fishing buddy or two, but once you make your first cast, you are "alone". If I need something to help me continue fly fishing (strike indicators), I will use it and I could shive a git what some narrow-minded bigoted people think of it. And if you come upon me on a stream and call me "lazy" or "ignorant" or "stupid", well, you will be in a helluva lot of trouble. Dave LaCourse
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great Post!! I had the advantage of learning an appreciation of nature & fishing from my father at an early age. Although he wasn’t a fly fisherman & we fished for bass, musky, northerns etc, he had a love of wilderness & we shared some wonderful times together. Since leaving my father’s home some thirty years ago & moving to Colorado, I’ve evolved into a fly fisherman through alot of reading, trial & error, and countless hours on the stream. The way I fish today, is very different from the fishing I did with my father, but it is firmly rooted in the appreciation of fish, water & nature I learned from him. I flyfish in my own way, that is more restrictive than George’s "one" definition. But this is FOR ME. I don’t define flyfishing for others by how I fish. I would probably be considered to be following the "Art Form.". For me, when things are "right", the pleasure is viseral, elementary & fundamental & may or may not involve catching fish. However, flaming, belittling other people’s ideas or ways of doing things, & self rightuous preachings do not advances one’s cause. In fact the opposite is the result. Like most things, flyfishing is personnal & individual. There are no rules except for those you choose to follow. There is no one right way. Willi
Somebody finally said "it all" about our sport. Congratulations Willi, you’ve really got a handle on it. Jim
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I’m neither a red neck nor a yuppie, but somewhere in between. I didn’t get started in all this by some movie. I learned long ago on a river in my youth, the hard way. Many fish outings and many lessons over those early years. Today the upstarts buy a ticket at the window and get on the ride. Instantly you have a "Fly fisherman in a can." In gulp they take it all in without ever getting the true taste. They seem to acquire and possess the knowledge of several life times and doing it at hyper speed. Has Fly Fishing become a pastime that resembles a brothel in comparison? I guess most of us want the real genuine thing regardless of the amount of effort that we put forth. For some, the need is so great for success that the real elementary lessons are never really encountered. Today you can have any thing you want as long as you can pay for it. To hell with it if you have to earn it. Another example is that you can buy your way to the summit of Mt. Everest without ever having to work or earn a place on a real team. Somewhere the "Art Form of Fly Fishing" was taken over by the Science form. What does that mean? Every element has been reduced to the science matter of increasing the catch. Why, and to what end do we need the numbers? Our children have petting Zoos, do we need them too? For a number of years I was away from fly fishing, spending my time climbing and sailing. There you had to be a participant and be real to get from one place the next. You had to perform on your own merits and deficiencies and overcome your short comings. Yes, the real art form comes from within. But the science has reduced Fly Fishing to an action vs. reaction, to an event to a counter-event and so on. All the elements have been broken down to their parts to be studied and be reproduced. Blindness comes in many forms. I choose not to be one of the ones looking over the elephant. What George speaks of is the art form and trying to maintain some semblance of the true heritage. Some places are just not mente to be fished. Sort of like peeing on hallow ground. Could the heritage of fly fishing be lost in only one generation? The old-timers while not gods do have much to offer. Do we set them aside, all for the achievements for scientific end? I would rather learn form an old-timer than take the shortcut route via the scientific method. But as time moves on, new meets old and a blending occurs. Hopefully without the distortion of where we came from and adding a price tag to it. My ten year-old son summed it up the other day, "Dad, you know this is the best Sunday school that you take me to." He sees the true art form for what it is and the meaning of being skunked. He will spend more time watching and asking questions than actually fishing. He will keep a fish and throw some back for next time. He hates truck trout and the ones scared by others. We have more to learn from them than is truly realized. But is the evil metastasis occurring before our very eyes? For me its the real thing or sometimes a little hair on the palms. The store bought knowledge you can get it at the edge of most towns in Nevada. — Doug Knight metalfab<atefaxinc.com Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP. Evil flames $1,000.00 per mailing.
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » clipping dry fly hackle
clipping dry fly hackle
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Hi Group– Well there’s now a pro and a con posted re: clipping hackle. As a beginner in both tying them and fishing them, I’d like to see more on this subject from more experienced fishers–what does Issac Walton think about it? Not being able to justify 50 bucks "for a bunch of feathers" to my dubious spouse, I don’t have many Metz primo capes, so I’m always snipping away at my creations. (The height of my success as a tyer so far came when she swatted a fly I had in my vice–I call it a size 14 Blue-Green Bent Hook Flathead Roadkill). Anyway, should I add clipped hackle to my list of tying blunders?
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Yes, it is kind of a hassle to tie both wieghted and unweighted flies and keep them separated in your fly boxes. Using both has allowed me to catch fish when the traditional nymph patterns would not produce.
No hassle of they are colour-coded by tying thread. My weighted nymphs are all tied with red thread, easy to see; if I were a closer imitationist I could choose between black, tan and olive. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
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No hassle of they are colour-coded by tying thread. My weighted nymphs are all tied with red thread, easy to see; if I were a closer imitationist I could choose between black, tan and olive. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
Don, I do the same color coding with one small difference. I lead all my hooks first and use the color coded thread which I wrap down the bend of the hook a little. So, when I look in the flybox all I have to do is look under their little tails to see how I weighted them… I know someone will come up with a good joke about looking under their tails (:^ Frank
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Don, I do the same color coding with one small difference. I lead all my hooks first and use the color coded thread which I wrap down the bend of the hook a little. So, when I look in the flybox all I have to do is look under their little tails to see how I weighted them… I know someone will come up with a good joke about looking under their tails (:^ Frank
Oh, I get it, Frank. Sort of a variation on a lead-ass! My father used to always call me that. Now I know what he was talking about– the color of my underpants, which must have stuck out above my pants. :^) (Sorry, best I could do under pressure.) :^( Charley
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For slow to medium water, I’ve clipped a ^ into the bottom of the hackle for years. When I’m doing so, I deliberately use a hackle which is too long so that when trimmed will be the proper length. The benefits of doing this are twofold. It sits very well on the water and has a terrific footprint on the water. A mayfly at rest on the water has long legs out to the side – not underneath it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well there’s now a pro and a con posted re: clipping hackle. When I started tying we had only Chinese and Idia necks. We would have killed for a Metz #3 rooster neck. Today they are around $30 and some shops split them in half or you might split one with a buddy. If you keep it away from bugs or you house pets they usually work to be a good long term investment with dries around $1.75 per each. The most popular color is natural brown and then Grizzly. Get some Pantone pens for coloring your Grizzly or Creme hackle in a pinch. I haven’t clipped any hackle before, at least not on purpose, but I done think it would sit up like the natural ends. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, Ca.
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Well there’s now a pro and a con posted re: clipping hackle.
When I started tying we had only Chinese and Idia necks. We would have killed for a Metz #3 rooster neck. Today they are around $30 and some shops split them in half or you might split one with a buddy. If you keep it away from bugs or you house pets they usually work to be a good long term investment with dries around $1.75 per each. The most popular color is natural brown and then Grizzly. Get some Pantone pens for coloring your Grizzly or Creme hackle in a pinch. I haven’t clipped any hackle before, at least not on purpose, but I done think it would sit up like the natural ends. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, Ca.
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Well can anyone out there give me a rule of thumb for weighting nymphs? My method in the past has been to first not weight the nymph itself so that it tumbled in the water more naturally. I added weight (lead shot) about 8 inches up the tipet until JUST before my indicator would studder as the weight and nymph would drag the bottom. I have always caught fish that way. So I am fishing with this rookie who fished his nymph with no weight under an indicator. I thought his nymph would never get anywhere near the bottom. He started hooking fish and I was dry, both of us using the same PTs I had tied!. Should I rething my nymphing strategy? Can a nymph act and be fished as an emerger with no modifications? I’m thinking that these fish were wanting emergers and that my method for weighting is still very sound. Opinions appreciated. And please! "No sticking to dry flys" cracks. 
My experience in nymphing is that you should be prepared to offer both weighted and unweighted nymphs to actively feeding fish. There are occasions when fish key on rising/hatching nymphs, and virtually ignore bottom dwelling creatures even though they are plentiful. I try to tie my nymph flies to cover the full life cycle of the insect. Something as simple as adding an emerging wing to a nymph can dramatically increase the effectiveness of a particular fly when nymphs are in transitional stage. As a rule of thumb for small nymphs (#14-#22) I add only enough weight to sink the fly a few inches. I can always add or remove split shot to achieve the desired sink rate. Yes, it is kind of a hassle to tie both wieghted and unweighted flies and keep them separated in your fly boxes. Using both has allowed me to catch fish when the traditional nymph patterns would not produce. I hope this helps. Bryan Bonds White River Anglers htttp://www.ipa.net/~bbonds Fayetteville, Ar
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: (The height of my success as a tyer : so far came when she swatted a fly I had in my vice–I call it a size : 14 Blue-Green Bent Hook Flathead Roadkill). Congratulations, Lee! Not often that the average joe can come up with a new pattern! You may want to publish it. ;- Anyway, should I add clipped hackle to my list of tying blunders? My opinion, yes. It changes the appearnce of the fly. The fine tips of a natural feather make a difference in the silhoette and the floatabily. You may want to consider cheaper necks for now. The expensive one _are_ cheaper in the long run. More feathers per buck and fewer "bad" feathers per neck. The price is high to start though. Jon Porter
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Well can anyone out there give me a rule of thumb for weighting nymphs? My method in the past has been to first not weight the nymph itself so that it tumbled in the water more naturally. I added weight (lead shot) about 8 inches up the tipet until JUST before my indicator would studder as the weight and nymph would drag the bottom. I have always caught fish
[deleted] personally, i do not use my indicators like bobbers, constantly adjusting the weight until the perfect balance is acheived. i much prefer using 3 to 5 tiny blobs of flourescent plastic indicator material (the sheet peel off types, not the big honking round versions of these…), Cortlands cut in 1/4ths or 1/6ths. One right at the butt section/line connection and then spaced at 6-10 inch intervals. this allows me to gauge… 1) depth of bug 2) directionality of leader 3) speed of drift 4) directionality of drift So you add some shot to get down and drown one or two of the indicators, so what …you can still see them under the water and see what attitude your your line is in relative to all the other variables. When you see a trout charge one of your sunken blobs of indicator you can switch to some kind of emerger and sagely pretend that you figured it out. Good fishing, Tim Walker
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I would appreciate any information on fishing for steelhead or salmon around Vancouver in late October, particularly on wadeable river spots. Thanks in advance, RK — / RedKnight | Chris McCarley / "I have seen the future | and it is neural." |
Try calling Ruddicks Fly Shop in Burnaby (Suburb of Van)
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I would appreciate any information on fishing for steelhead or salmon around Vancouver in late October, particularly on wadeable river spots. Thanks in advance, RK — / RedKnight | Chris McCarley / "I have seen the future | and it is neural." |
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