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I got an Outcast Fat Cat 66 VBoat for my birthday  and spent the day fishing a lovely pond on the edge of town. A friend who works for CO DOW gave me a tip on a low-pressure piece of stocked water and man oh man was he right! I have never in my life had a more productive day of fly fishing. This was my first time floating and I’m just amazed at the experience. I would like to meet other float tubers in the Boulder/Front Range area who would like to get together and fish. Reply here. Woo Hoo! Oh, btw, I’m 38. -bh

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I got an Outcast Fat Cat 66 VBoat for my birthday  and spent the day fishing a lovely pond on the edge of town. A friend who works for CO DOW gave me a tip on a low-pressure piece of stocked water and man oh man was he right! I have never in my life had a more productive day of fly fishing. This was my first time floating and I’m just amazed at the experience. I would like to meet other float tubers in the Boulder/Front Range area who would like to get together and fish. Reply here. Woo Hoo! Oh, btw, I’m 38. -bh

Happy Birthday, B! Got me one of these devices too, but never got to try it. Blew up (Booom) on the first trip. Never reached the water though, lucky me! Just got a replacement innertube, if I dare to use it… Tight lines and safe floats! Stefan, Sweden

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0] hot-damn…. i made a form! shoot, i’ll be insufferable tomorrow astream

Come now, don’t sell yourself short, you’re insufferable now online. ,      - Ken

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 0] : I found this form on another NG, and thought perhaps it might be of vague : interest. : TL : MC : — : : …. Mike You must have missed the one I cooked up and posted last year. Some of it’s a bit dated now, but a lot of it still applies You’re right Mike, I had forgotten this form but it would still work today.  Some would be insulted, however, at not being included in the identity checklist. Mark Faulkner

_____  I should feel slighted Mark.  ; ) Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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hot-damn…. i made a form! shoot, i’ll be insufferable tomorrow astream waldo

well, guess i’ll be returning the curtains and fixing the flat tomorrow then <G jeff (sufferin from the insufferable)

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hot-damn…. i made a form! shoot, i’ll be insufferable tomorrow astream waldo

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 0] : I found this form on another NG, and thought perhaps it might be of vague : interest. : TL : MC : — : : …. Mike You must have missed the one I cooked up and posted last year. Some of it’s a bit dated now, but a lot of it still applies

You’re right Mike, I had forgotten this form but it would still work today.  Some would be insulted, however, at not being included in the identity checklist. Mark Faulkner

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 0] : I found this form on another NG, and thought perhaps it might be of vague : interest. : TL : MC : — : "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the : impossible" : http://www.mikeconnor.de : : …. Mike You must have missed the one I cooked up and posted last year. Some of it’s a bit dated now, but a lot of it still applies  General Purpose rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Flame Form–Check All That Apply  Dear   [X] George            [ ] Wayne         [ ] Dave          [ ] Mike   [ ] T-bone            [ ] Ralph         [ ] Ken           [ ] Walt   [ ] Tony              [ ] Ernie         [X ] Poet          [ ] …   [X ] ROFFian           [X ] Dry Flyfisher [X ] Flyfisher     [ ] Beadhead User   [X ] NON-Indicator User    [ ] Spinfisher    [ ] Bait Chucker  [ ] Cutter of Bait   [ ] Uninformed Newbie [ ] Spammer       [ ] Republican    [ ] Democrat   [X ] Capitalist        [ ] Socialist     [ ] Despoiler of Rivers   [ ] PETA Member/AR Crank  You are being flamed with torch set on   [X ] Gentle Warm(n)ing [ ] Threshold of Pain [ ] Pyrolize [ ] Thermonuclear   because   [ ] Concerning the thread on         [X ] C&R [ ] Indicators [ ] Beadheads  [ ] Impeachment [ ] Tree Spiking       you                 [ ] started it      [ ] posted to it                 [X ] are for it      [ ] are against it                 [ ] have no opinion on it   [X ] you use Gink and Xink   [ ] you don’t use Gink and Xink   [ ] you’ve never heard of Gink and Xink   [ ] you flamed George       [X ] for advising of the availability and usefulness of Gink and Xink       [X ] for well considered reasonable opinions   [ ] you flamed George      [ ] for spamming on Gink and Xink      [X ] for outrageous crazy opinions   [ ] you defended George      [ ] for spamming on Gink and Xink      [X ] for outrageous crazy opinions   [ ] you defended George      [ ] for advising us of the availability and usefulness of Gink and Xink      [X ] for well considered reasonable opinions   [X ] you should order a Lil’ Bastard   [ ] you haven’t yet ordered a Lil’ Bastard   [ ] you are coming to the ‘clave   [X ] you are not coming to the ‘clave   [X ] you are not supplying your share of Famous Grouse for the ‘clave   [ ] Concerning a reasonable question on flyfishing         [ ] you asked it         [X ] you answered it well         [ ] you gave an unhelpful answer/made a snide remark   [ ] you dylsexic, did you even read what I wrote?   [ ] you advocated having a moderator for ROFF   [ ] you are against having a moderator for ROFF   [X ] you shouted FISH LOVE ME!   [ ] you posted HTML or binary   [ ] you spammed us   [ ] you posted an anonymous attack Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491

Mike! Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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I found this form on another NG, and thought perhaps it might be of vague interest.

<snip Yep. That would be the Standard Phoenix LART Form, popularized by Phoenix of news.admin.net-abuse.email.   A most dangerous item, to be handled with the greatest of care. You never quite know when they’ll go off. Opt out == cop-out. What’s so hard to understand?

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I think C&K is better than C&R. Everybody knows that cattle ranchers are all environment-polluting welfare queens who are probably all in militias. Weighted nymphs are the only way to go. #12 wasn’t such a bad rod after all. And BTW, what’s the best floatant? Opt out == cop-out. What’s so hard to understand?

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….. #12 wasn’t such a bad rod after all.

You were doing so well till the slip up with the past tense.  At last report, old #12 was once again corporeal and winging on its happy way to another satisfied customer.

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0] : I found this form on another NG, and thought perhaps it might be of vague : interest. : TL : MC : — : "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the : impossible" : http://www.mikeconnor.de : : …. Mike You must have missed the one I cooked up and posted last year. Some of it’s a bit dated now, but a lot of it still applies  General Purpose rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Flame Form–Check All That Apply  Dear   [ ] George            [ ] Wayne         [ ] Dave          [ ] Mike   [ ] T-bone            [ ] Ralph         [ ] Ken           [ ] Walt   [ ] Tony              [ ] Ernie         [ ] Poet          [ ] …   [ ] ROFFian           [ ] Dry Flyfisher [ ] Flyfisher     [ ] Beadhead User   [ ] Indicator User    [ ] Spinfisher    [ ] Bait Chucker  [ ] Cutter of Bait   [ ] Uninformed Newbie [ ] Spammer       [ ] Republican    [ ] Democrat   [ ] Capitalist        [ ] Socialist     [ ] Despoiler of Rivers   [ ] PETA Member/AR Crank  You are being flamed with torch set on   [ ] Gentle Warm(n)ing [ ] Threshold of Pain [ ] Pyrolize [ ] Thermonuclear   because   [ ] Concerning the thread on         [ ] C&R [ ] Indicators [ ] Beadheads  [ ] Impeachment [ ] Tree Spiking       you                 [ ] started it      [ ] posted to it                           [ ] are for it      [ ] are against it                   [ ] have no opinion on it   [ ] you use Gink and Xink   [ ] you don’t use Gink and Xink   [ ] you’ve never heard of Gink and Xink   [ ] you flamed George       [ ] for advising us of the availability and usefulness of Gink and Xink       [ ] for well considered reasonable opinions   [ ] you flamed George      [ ] for spamming on Gink and Xink      [ ] for outrageous crazy opinions   [ ] you defended George      [ ] for spamming on Gink and Xink      [ ] for outrageous crazy opinions   [ ] you defended George      [ ] for advising us of the availability and usefulness of Gink and Xink      [ ] for well considered reasonable opinions   [ ] you have ordered a Lil’ Bastard   [ ] you haven’t yet ordered a Lil’ Bastard   [ ] you are coming to the ‘clave   [ ] you are not coming to the ‘clave   [ ] you are not supplying your share of Famous Grouse for the ‘clave   [ ] Concerning a reasonable question on flyfishing         [ ] you asked it           [ ] you answered it well         [ ] you gave an unhelpful answer/made a snide remark   [ ] you dylsexic, did you even read what I wrote?   [ ] you advocated having a moderator for ROFF   [ ] you are against having a moderator for ROFF   [ ] you shouted (USED ALL CAPS!!!)   [ ] you posted HTML or binary   [ ] you spammed us   [ ] you posted an anonymous attack Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491              

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Hey you bunch of low-life assholes, even if you don’t know anything about fly-fishing or morals and are stupid anyway I would like to do you all a favour. snip<

Well, let me set you straight on a couple points……   Oh wait.   This is a contest entry isn’t it?  Oops, I didn’t notice at first.  <g Joe F.

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Hi Wolfgang, please send my thirty marks, (or ten dollars will do), to Louies Breakfast BVD fund, this is a recognised charity, and is designed to prevent serious psychological damage to clave attendees. TL MC– "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Mike Connor drivels: Hi Wolfgang, please send my thirty marks, (or ten dollars will do), to Louies Breakfast BVD fund, this is a recognised charity, and is designed to prevent serious psychological damage to clave attendees.

Harumphhhhhh!  Ingrates!!!!! (But send the money, Wolfie!)  d;0) Dave L. (Louie’s alter ego)…

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Hey you bunch of low-life assholes, even if you don’t know anything about fly-fishing or morals and are stupid anyway I would like to do you all a favour.

[deleted] You gonna tell us how to tip a sparse hackled #16 paraleptaphlebia spinner with half a red wriggler ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Hey you bunch of low-life assholes, even if you don’t know anything about fly-fishing or morals and are stupid anyway I would like to do you all a favour. I have a self-made unique cane rod for sale, with the serial # 1234, which I built after three days intensive study of the available material. It is perfect. I am selling this on e-bay, and in order to give all the idiots out there at least a chance of this once in a lifetime offer I have crossposted this to one hundred and twenty other news groups.  First bid over ten thousand dollars gets it. If there are several bids it will be raffled, no low-lifes will be considered, unless they pay in advance, tickets cost twelve thousand dollars. As a special offer you can visit my website for nothing and talk about any personal problems you may have. This website is a public service, so don’t waste my time talking about fishing on it. I also tie perfect flies, but I am not selling any to low-lifes, so get lost, tie your own, you might even catch something on them even if they are shit, and will probably murder the fish as well. Please note all my business is conducted on this or other news groups, so that none of you lying SOB

Question:

What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)?

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Jtfunai: <<What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)? None, although a 1 wt line might be easier to "break" than an 8 wt. I have never heard of anyone breaking their line on *anything*. The tippet is the first thing to break. Dave L.

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What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)?

There basically is no real relationship. The breaking strain of the fly-line core is the main criterion here, and this is far higher than is likely ever to be broken by a fish, assuming it is not damaged.  The weight of a fly-line is primarily determined by its coating, irrespective of the core diameter, which is basically a plastic full of glass bubbles in the case of a floater, and with lead or other powder in the case of a sinker.  The core of the line is invariably a synthetic such as Terylene or similar, and may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, as does the coating.  The "breaking strain" of a fly-line is basically irrelevant, and is seldom given by the manufacturer.  I remember seeing a level floating  line some years ago where the B.S. was given, as 60 lbs, but have not seen any such data recently. TL MC

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Thanks Dave. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jtfunai: <<What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)? None, although a 1 wt line might be easier to "break" than an 8 wt. I have never heard of anyone breaking their line on *anything*. The tippet is the first thing to break. Dave L.

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Thanks Mike. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)? There basically is no real relationship. The breaking strain of the fly-line core is the main criterion here, and this is far higher than is likely ever to be broken by a fish, assuming it is not damaged.  The weight of a fly-line is primarily determined by its coating, irrespective of the core diameter, which is basically a plastic full of glass bubbles in the case of a floater, and with lead or other powder in the case of a sinker.  The core of the line is invariably a synthetic such as Terylene or similar, and may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, as does the coating.  The "breaking strain" of a fly-line is basically irrelevant, and is seldom given by the manufacturer.  I remember seeing a level floating  line some years ago where the B.S. was given, as 60 lbs, but have not seen any such data recently. TL MC

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I agree with the other two posts with regards to weight of quarry and breaking strength of the line.  There are to many factors that would determine the breaking strength of the line while being fished.  Such as the rod and tippet being used.  The tippet will usually break before the rod and the rod before the line.  With the shock absorbing capabilities of the rod and the leader or tippet it is hard to imagine the line ever breaking on a fish unless it had been cut on something. I however just broke a Rio 9/10/11 Spey line on a snag in the Thompson River.  I was never able to see what it was snagged on but it must have been sharp.  Line weight really has no correlation with the weight of fish.  Although you would not want to use a small diameter line such as a one weight for Tarpon! Before you buy.

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I agree with the other two posts with regards to weight of quarry and breaking strength of the line.  There are to many factors that would determine the breaking strength of the line while being fished.  Such as the rod and tippet being used.  The tippet will usually break before the rod and the rod before the line.  With the shock absorbing capabilities of the rod and the leader or tippet it is hard to imagine the line ever breaking on a fish unless it had been cut on something. I however just broke a Rio 9/10/11 Spey line on a snag in the Thompson River.  I was never able to see what it was snagged on but it must have been sharp.  Line weight really has no correlation with the weight of fish.  Although you would not want to use a small diameter line such as a one weight for Tarpon! Before you buy.

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There is no relationship as far as I know. Traditional fly lines have a dacron core of only 20-35lb breaking strain (light lines with the thinner dacron) – of course this is plenty for normal fishing conditions. If the lines are old and cracked the dacron can deteriorate reducing the breaking strain. I know a couple of people who have broken the line when using 10kg tippet on tuna – one was a heavily used old Cortland, the other an Airflo (when they were at their worst). I broke a 3M wet cell IV once in Fiji after snagging it on the reef – it seemed like 80lb!! Some of the newest lines with braided monofilament may be stronger. Cheers John Knight Sydney FlyRodders’

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What is the relationship between flyline weight and weight carrying capacity (eg, lbs)?

Hi JF, I think that lines #4, 5, 6 and 7 are built up on a 20# braided dacron core. #8 and larger are built on a 30# braided dacron core. I guess the new #0, 1 and 2 lines are on something smaller in diameter than 20#? This is real evident when you are trying to pull 30# backing or cheap 20# backing up inside the core of a #6 line to make a needle nail knot.

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Hi. I am looking for your help and information on a project that I have going at present. I am producing a guide to the best places to fish and require information from your area. The information I need is of course the best fishing locations,species to target,methods of catching the fish,tackle used,local tackle shops accommodation etc.Please also classify the type of fishing it is,i.e boat,game,fly,coarse etc…. If the information provided is used,you will receive a credit to your name for providing the information. You may even be contacted as the local guide for the area if you wish. If possible,I would like information as to where the location is,be it by hand drawing or other,the nearest airport and port. This is a big project and your help will be greatly appreciated. Please send details by return e-mail and an acknowledgement will be sent to you. Kind regards. Paul Suggitt If you received this e-mail in error,then please accept my sincere apologies for bothering you. If you type remove in the subject line and return the mail,I will ensure that you will not be bothered again!

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One should be careful of posts like this, it MAY open you up to spam in your personal emailbox, and being added to a master email list for unsolicited ads that get sold these days. Post suggestions to the ng, thats what this is for right? JohnM

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi. I am looking for your help and information on a project that I have going at present. I am producing a guide to the best places to fish and require information from your area. The information I need is of course the best fishing locations,species to target,methods of catching the fish,tackle used,local tackle shops accommodation etc.Please also classify the type of fishing it is,i.e boat,game,fly,coarse etc…. If the information provided is used,you will receive a credit to your name for providing the information. You may even be contacted as the local guide for the area if you wish. If possible,I would like information as to where the location is,be it by hand drawing or other,the nearest airport and port. This is a big project and your help will be greatly appreciated. Please send details by return e-mail and an acknowledgement will be sent to you. Kind regards. Paul Suggitt If you received this e-mail in error,then please accept my sincere apologies for bothering you. If you type remove in the subject line and return the mail,I will ensure that you will not be bothered again!

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Hey ,watch out for this guy , I read his post on the NG and the next day got the same crap through my e-mail program. How do you anti-spammerize your e-mail programs. I use 3 different programs to filter some of the crap out. But it still gets through. —– The RodMaker ICQ# 9754996 http://geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

Good question.

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

I AM NOT!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gordon wrote… I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :)

ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. — Gordon

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gordon wrote… I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance…..

Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system.  BTW, Pooler is neither. cheers bob

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

All the U.S. participants are part of what some chose to call a "Two Party System"……

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Gordon wrote… In article

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system. BTW, Pooler is neither. cheers bob

And, BTW, neither is the Nixon. I voted the Reform Party in the last National Election and am likely to do so again……. McDAve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gordon wrote… In article I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system. BTW, Pooler is neither. And, BTW, neither is the Nixon. I voted the Reform Party in the last National Election and am likely to do so again…….

Well, I’m all for revolution, sorry – reform. — Gordon

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Question:

    I have an old bamboo pole that was given to me.  It is about 9 to 10′ two piece pole with a single eyelet on the end.  It doesn’t have a handle on it or any mounts for a reel.     I’m curioius of what kind of pole it is and If it is worth anything.

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   I have an old bamboo pole that was given to me.  It is about 9 to 10′ two piece pole with a single eyelet on the end.  It doesn’t have a handle on it or any mounts for a reel.    I’m curioius of what kind of pole it is and If it is worth anything.

Hi Andrew, That pole is for ‘tule dippen’. You put about 8 to 10′ of heavy line on the eyelet with a bobber and hook. Install some protein (i.e.worm) and swing it out on to the water. When the bobber goes under, light up the barbecue. I think it is a big part of our fishing heritage. In many third world countries they fish with a can and line. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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   I have an old bamboo pole that was given to me.  It is about 9 to 10′ two piece pole with a single eyelet on the end.  It doesn’t have a handle on it or any mounts for a reel.    I’m curioius of what kind of pole it is and If it is worth anything.

AKA a ‘whacko’ pole ,,used here (AUS) for the taking of Barra and Jack around snags. Method is to secure some 80+ mono to the tip with a 3.0 longshank hook with the barb filed off. Attach one live prawn (at least #8) and lower gingerly  into the snag. The name I am not sure where it originates. Tis one of these: A. the sound created when the frustrated fisho hits the water with the pole repeatedly. B. the imagined feeling when a BarraTuesday hits. C. the clip over the ear you get when doin’ this out of season. D. all of the above Gilly No SEA too rough No Muff too tough Be UP and alive

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Looking to fly fish in the Smokies the end of May.  Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.  TIA. Bruce —

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Where in the Smokies? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking to fly fish in the Smokies the end of May.  Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.  TIA. Bruce —

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Thanks for the reply.  Big Cr. and Cataloochee. We are tent campers and realize the areas may be busy.  Any input is appreciated. Joyce and Bruce — FRIENDSHIP True friendship comes when silence between two friends is comfortable.

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I  have a friend that has an old fly rod and wants to know how much it is worth.  I’m not familiar with this particular sport, but thought maybe someone could point me to a book or internet site that would be helpful.   The information he gave me was that it is made by Wright and McGill, Eagle Claw, Trailmaster 6′9", Model VM8TM, Line size 7", mini serrules. You can either email me directly (as I am not a reader of this group), or just reply here in the group and I will come back each day for a few days. Thank you for your help. Richard Fitzgerald

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  Dick Spurr’s Classis Chronicle page is reachable from my homepage listed below.  Hope this helps . . . http://www.kings.edu/~lsgorney/index.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I  have a friend that has an old fly rod and wants to know how much it is worth.  I’m not familiar with this particular sport, but thought maybe someone could point me to a book or internet site that would be helpful.   The information he gave me was that it is made by Wright and McGill, Eagle Claw, Trailmaster 6′9", Model VM8TM, Line size 7", mini serrules. You can either email me directly (as I am not a reader of this group), or just reply here in the group and I will come back each day for a few days. Thank you for your help. Richard Fitzgerald

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I  have a friend that has an old fly rod and wants to know how much it is worth.  I’m not familiar with this particular sport, but thought maybe someone could point me to a book or internet site that would be helpful. The information he gave me was that it is made by Wright and McGill, Eagle Claw, Trailmaster 6′9", Model VM8TM, Line size 7", mini serrules. You can either email me directly (as I am not a reader of this group), or just reply here in the group and I will come back each day for a few days. Thank you for your help.

I beleive I had owned one of these rods in the mid ’70’s. A great pack rod then. I also beleive that is a combonation spin/fly,swapping the handle around to accomadate your fishing needs. I used an HCH or an HDH double taper, this sounds sort of dated but that’s the facts. Caught many fish on both spin and fly. IMHO, it was a better spin rod than a fly rod. It was all the 7wt. line rating and maybe a little more, a real noodle comparied to todays graphites. Do I miss it? Yes, just the backcountry memories. If you look close on the lable it should say that it has a life time guarantee, too. Paid about $50 new ‘74. I heard that this rod was to go back into production for around $110-145 last year or this. Your friends rod worth about $50-70 Doug Knight Posting on the road this weekend I want NO SPAM in this box, You are for warned

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

Hi Jonathan, I guided 83 trips and several personal trips as well in my Simms and they worked very well. I developed one pin hole leak after charging through some wild roses but the leak was very easy to repair. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Have spent many of my earlier years on the Little Lehigh….thru Hs and College and since then.It is a great stream to fish year around with some sort of surface activity(lots of Midges) just about year around. It is a limestoner with lots of trout to fish over in the c+r area near the hatchery. that part of the stream can be fished from the bank only…..about .5 of a mile long.Very picky fish who just about see everything…..be prepared to go small 8x……size24…….5 wt rod is  I wish the stream was closer….but our saltwater action makes up for it. Good Luck Peter Whelan

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. Patterns, places, local shops…..even better if someone familiar with the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish  (and not Thanks in advance. Tight Lines. JAPPLE

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or

Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.         Sincerely;         Jason Beary

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.    Sincerely;    Jason Beary

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: Permits are not necessary. This is not entirely true, folks coming from the states have to have Crown Land Camping Permits to camp on any Crown Land north of the French/Mattawa line. I’m not sure about whether it is still in force, but I heard that the price was up to $10/percson/day. — Dave Robinson Toronto, Ont. Canada

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You do need a permit if you are a U.S. citizen and not using a Canadian outfitter.  If you have a guide, rented a canoe or were outfitted by a Canadian store, you do not need a permit. I had a waiver from the ONtario MNR a few years ago because I was leading a group from a non-profit organization.  They gave me a letter exempting us from the permit for our trip. – Andrew — Andrew Lederman SMD ‘97 University of Virginia

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I’m planning a canoe trip to Wabakimi Provincial Park, Ontario.  Anyone have any info on that area?  I understand that I can have a train drop us off at the park.  Is this true?  Does anyone know if there is a fee for camping?  I would really like to know what the area is like.  My only info so far is the book "Canoeing Ontario’s Rivers" by Ron Reid and Janet Grand.  I haven’t planned a date yet, but I’m thinking about mid to late August.  Any info would be helpful. Thanks!!! Dick Raffl

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m planning a canoe trip to Wabakimi Provincial Park, Ontario. Anyone have any info on that area?  I understand that I can have a train drop us off at the park.  Is this true?  Does anyone know if there is a fee for camping?  I would really like to know what the area is like.  My only info so far is the book "Canoeing Ontario’s Rivers" by Ron Reid and Janet Grand.  I haven’t planned a date yet, but I’m thinking about mid to late August.  Any info would be helpful. Thanks!!! Dick Raffl

Write to :   Ontario Ministry Of Natural Resources              P.O. Box 970, Nipigon              Ontario POT  2J0 Ask them to sent you the brochure Nipigon Canoe Routes. This will outline all of the possible routes in the Wabakimi area. You can then select a route and write to them for more detailed information such as portages, ect.  It is possible to take the train from Armstrong and have them drop you off at the Allanwater bridge: from there you take a route that brings you back through Caribou Lake. Permits are not necessary. A word of caution: some of these lakes are quite large; it’s easy to become windbound for several days. There is also a lot of fly-in fishing traffic in this area, but once you get out it can be very remote.

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