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I’m going to be in Hawaii and Kauai in February.  Are there any Saltwater Fly fishing opportunities there I haven’t read much on Fly Fishing in Hawaii. Thanks J.S.

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I’m going to be in Hawaii and Kauai in February.  Are there any Saltwater Fly fishing opportunities there I haven’t read much on Fly Fishing in Hawaii. Thanks J.S.

J.S.,      I was in hawaii on the island of Oahu, I was a beginner to the sport of fly fishing. I looked and listened for anything that I could find on the art. I didnt find that much.      However, I have seen shows on fly fishing where they were fly fishing for Bone Fish. There are definitely bone fish all over the hawaiian islands. Would probably have to look for the flats, of course, as that is where they usually hang out. I dont know the exact fly types they used, but they were there. I was in hawaii for 3 years in the military. It was a good long time of fishing, but like I said, not much for fly fishing.      Also, there is a freshwater lake on Oahu that I did fly fish, but again, I was new into the whole fly fishing genre. The lake was stocked with Peacock Bass. Not very big from what I could see, but there were some lunkers in there, I am pretty sure. I have a buddy that is stationed out there right now, I will check with him to see if he can find anything out about it, specifically for the islands you mentioned. Cant promise anything, cause I dont know how much he will look, but I will drop it on him anyway.

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" Miranda Writes" < wrote This has to be shared with some other newsgroups… WASHINGTON — John Spankitt, president of the Sperm Is Life League

(SPILL) + Please don’t feed the troll.

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Meet my good friend,         Willie, the one-eyed wonder worm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Also top-posting:  my favorite (stroke your oar) is not in the list. Luha             M/M and now, to add to this story,  we have late-breaking news- A  complete list of acts which Spill wishes to ban follows:  THE CANONICAL LIST OF EUPHEMISMS FOR MALE MASTURBATION:        1. Arm-wrestle with your one-eyed vessel        2. Attack the one-eyed purple-headed warrior        3. Audition the finger puppets        4. Audition your hand puppet        5. Backstroke roulette        6. Bash the candle        7. Battle with the Purple Helmeted Warrior of Love        8. Be your own best friend        9. Beat off       10. Beat the Bishop       11. Beat the bologna       12. Beat the dummy       13. Beat the meat       14. Beat the pud       15. Beat the stick       16. Beat up your date       17. Beef tips stroking off       18. Bleed the weed       19. Blow your load       20. Blow your own horn       21. Bludgeon the beefsteak       22. Bop the bologna       23. Bop the bonzo       24. Box the Jesuit       25. Box with Richard       26. Buff the banana       27. Bugger your hand       28. Burp the baby       29. Burp the worm       30. Butter the corn       31. Caning the vandal       32. Charm the snake       33. Check for testicular cancer       34. Cheese off       35. Choke Kojak       36. Choke the chicken       37. Choke the sheriff and wait for the posse to come       38. Clamp the pipe       39. Clean your rifle       40. Clear the snorkel       41. Climb the tree       42. Closet Frisbee       43. Come into your own       44. Cook the cream of cock       45. Corral your tadpole       46. Couch hockey for one       47. Crank the love pump       48. Crank the shank       49. Crimp the wire       50. Crown the king       51. Cuddle the kielbasa       52. Cuff the carrot       53. Daisy-chaining       54. Date Miss Michigan       55. Date Mrs. Palmer and Her five daughters       56. Date Rosie Palm and her five sisters       57. Defrosting the fridge       58. Diddle       59. Digital penile oscillation       60. Do It Your Way       61. Do handiwork       62. Do the White Knuckler       63. Do the janitor thing       64. Drain the monster       65. Dry humping the ottoman       66. Electing the President       67. Engage in safe sex       68. Exercise one’s right       69. Feed the ducks       70. Fiddle the flesh flute       71. Fist fuck       72. Fist your mister       73. Five knuckle shuffle       74. Five-knuckle-shuffle on the old piss pump       75. Flick your Bic       76. Fling your phallus       77. Flip the Bishop       78. Flog the Bishop       79. Flog the dog       80. Flog the dolphin       81. Flog the dong       82. Flog the hog       83. Flog the log       84. Flog the mule       85. Fly fishing       86. Fondle your flagpole       87. Free Willy       88. Friggit       89. Frost the pastries       90. Gallop the antelope       91. Gallop the old lizard       92. Genital stimulation via phallengetic motion       93. Get a date with Slick Mittens       94. Get chafed       95. Get off       96. Get the German soldier marching       97. Get to know yourself       98. Get your pole varnished       99. Give it a tug      100. Give your low five      101. Go a couple of rounds with ol’ Josh      102. Go blind      103. Go on a date with Fisty Palmer      104. Go on a date with Handrea and Palmela      105. Go the blow      106. Goose the gherkin      107. Grease the pipe      108. Hack the hog      109. Hand job      110. Hand shandy      111. Hard labor      112. Have one off the wrist      113. Hitchhike to heaven      114. Hitchhike underneath the big top      115. Hold the Bishop      116. Hold the sausage hostage      117. Hone the cone      118. Honk your horn      119. Hug the hog      120. Human version of AUTOEXEC.BAT      121. Hump your hose      122. Jack hammer      123. Jack off      124. Jazz yourself      125. Jerk      126. Jerk Jamby      127. Jerk it      128. Jerk off      129. Jerk the gherkin      130. Jizzlob      131. JocelynEldering      132. Kick your roommate out for five to ten minutes to "call your parents"      133. Look for ticks      134. Lope the mule      135. Love the muppet      136. Love’s labors lost      137. Make a foreskin cone      138. Make instant pudding      139. Make the bald man puke      140. Making soup      141. Mangle the midget      142. Manipulate the mango      143. Manual labor      144. Manual override      145. Master Bacon, meet Rosie Hancock      146. Meat with Mother Thumb and her four daughters      147. Milk the Lizard      148. Milk the cow      149. Milk the moose      150. Milk the self      151. Milking the lizard      152. Mount a corporal and four      153. Much goo about nothing      154. Nerk your throbber      155. Null the void      156. Oil the glove      157. Onan’s olympics      158. One gun salute      159. One man band      160. One-night-stand with yourself      161. Pack your palm      162. Paddle the pickle      163. Paint the ceiling      164. Paint the pickle      165. Palm the calm      166. Peel some chilis      167. Peel the banana      168. Perform diagnostics on your ManTool      169. Pet the lizard      170. Pip the pumpkin      171. Play Uno      172. Play a little five-on-one      173. Play a one stringed guitar      174. Play five against one      175. Play in a one-man show      176. Play peek-a-boo      177. Play pocket pinball      178. Play pocket pool      179. Play tag with the pink torpedo      180. Play the skin flute      181. Play tug-o-war with Cyclops      182. Play with your turtle (for uncircumcised guys)      183. Playing the one-stringed melody      184. Please your pisser      185. Plunk your twanger      186. Polish Percy in your palm      187. Polish the Rocket      188. Polish the family jewels      189. Polish the helmet      190. Polish the rock-hard staff of St. Peter      191. Polish the rocket      192. Polish the sword      193. Pound off      194. Pound the bald-headed moose      195. Pound the pud      196. Pound your flounder      197. Pound your pud      198. Prepare the carrot      199. Prime the pump      200. Pull off      201. Pull rank      202. Pull the bologna pony      203. Pull the carrot      204. Pull the cord      205. Pull the goalie      206. Pull the pole      207. Pull the Pope      208. Pull the pud      209. Pull your own leg      210. Pull your prick      211. Pull your taffy      212. Pump the python      213. Pump the stump      214. Punch the clown      215. Punch the munchkin      216. Punish Percy in your palm      217. Ram the ham      218. Relieve tension      219. Ride the great white knuckler      220. Roll your own      221. Romeo and Himself      222. Rope the pony      223. Rope the Pope      224. Rub off      225. Rub one out      226. Rub the pink eraser      227. Run off a batch by hand      228. Sacrifice sperm to the god of lonely nights      229. Safest sex      230. Sand wood      231. Scour the tower of power      232. Scratch the itch      233. Secret handshake      234. Self abuse      235. Self-induced penile regurgitation      236. Sex with someone you really love      237. Shag      238. Shake hands with Abe Lincoln      239. Shake hands with Yul Brynner      240. Shake hands with the midget      241. Shake hands with the unemployed      242. Shake hands with your John Thomas      243. Shake hands with your wife’s best friend      244. Shake the sauce      245. Shake the sausage      246. Shake the snake      247. Shaling the snake      248. Shellac the shillelagh      249. Shemp the hog      250. Shift gears      251. Shine the helmet      252. Shine your pole      253. Shoot for the moon      254. Shoot putty at the moon      255. Shoot the airplane      256. Shuck your corn      257. Slakin’ the bacon      258. Slam the ham      259. Slam the salami      260. Slam the salmon      261. Slam the spam      262. Slap high fives with Yul Brynner      263. Slap it      264. Slap pappy      265. Slap the carrot      266. Slap the clown      267. Slap the donkey      268. Slap the pud      269. Slap the purple headed yogurt pistol      270. Slap the salami      271. Sling the jelly      272. Smack off      273. Smack the salami      274. Snap the monkey      275. Snap the rubber      276. Snap the whip      277. Solo flight      278. Solo marathon      279. Solo sex      280. Spank Frank (or Elvis)      281. Spank the Bishop      282. Spank the frank      283. Spank the monkey      284. Spank the salami      285. Spank the wank      286. Squeeze the cheese      287. Squeeze the juice      288. Squeeze the toothpaste in the middle of the tube      289. Squeeze your cheese-dog      290. Stinky pinky      291. Stir the batter      292. 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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (top-posting) This has to be shared with some other newsgroups… GROUP WANTS TO BAN MASTURBATION BY YOSSARIAN KHAN THE FAUX NEWS SERVICE www.ftpg.net WASHINGTON — John Spankitt, president of the Sperm Is Life League (SPILL) today announced a campaign to outlaw masturbation. … [snip] Several reporters attempted to ask Spankitt if he had ever engaged in masturbation himself, at which time he declared the press conference closed and rushed from the room with the aid of his guide dog.             M/M and now, to add to this story,  we have late-breaking news- A  complete list of acts which Spill wishes to ban follows:  THE CANONICAL LIST OF EUPHEMISMS FOR MALE MASTURBATION:        1. Arm-wrestle with your one-eyed vessel        2. Attack the one-eyed purple-headed warrior

[snip] As they say in the Navy; it’s my dick and my soap and I’ll wash it as fast as I want to. — David J. Vorous Yosemite Llama Ranch http://www.TheLlamaRanch.com UDP for WebTV

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[snipped] Also top-posting:  my favorite (stroke your oar) is not in the list. Luha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –             M/M and now, to add to this story,  we have late-breaking news- A  complete list of acts which Spill wishes to ban follows:  THE CANONICAL LIST OF EUPHEMISMS FOR MALE MASTURBATION:        1. Arm-wrestle with your one-eyed vessel        2. Attack the one-eyed purple-headed warrior        3. Audition the finger puppets        4. Audition your hand puppet        5. Backstroke roulette        6. Bash the candle        7. Battle with the Purple Helmeted Warrior of Love        8. Be your own best friend        9. Beat off       10. Beat the Bishop       11. Beat the bologna       12. Beat the dummy       13. Beat the meat       14. Beat the pud       15. Beat the stick       16. Beat up your date       17. Beef tips stroking off       18. Bleed the weed       19. Blow your load       20. Blow your own horn       21. Bludgeon the beefsteak       22. Bop the bologna       23. Bop the bonzo       24. Box the Jesuit       25. Box with Richard       26. Buff the banana       27. Bugger your hand       28. Burp the baby       29. Burp the worm       30. Butter the corn       31. Caning the vandal       32. Charm the snake       33. Check for testicular cancer       34. Cheese off       35. Choke Kojak       36. Choke the chicken       37. Choke the sheriff and wait for the posse to come       38. Clamp the pipe       39. Clean your rifle       40. Clear the snorkel       41. Climb the tree       42. Closet Frisbee       43. Come into your own       44. Cook the cream of cock       45. Corral your tadpole       46. Couch hockey for one       47. Crank the love pump       48. Crank the shank       49. Crimp the wire       50. Crown the king       51. Cuddle the kielbasa       52. Cuff the carrot       53. Daisy-chaining       54. Date Miss Michigan       55. Date Mrs. Palmer and Her five daughters       56. Date Rosie Palm and her five sisters       57. Defrosting the fridge       58. Diddle       59. Digital penile oscillation       60. Do It Your Way       61. Do handiwork       62. Do the White Knuckler       63. Do the janitor thing       64. Drain the monster       65. Dry humping the ottoman       66. Electing the President       67. Engage in safe sex       68. Exercise one’s right       69. Feed the ducks       70. Fiddle the flesh flute       71. Fist fuck       72. Fist your mister       73. Five knuckle shuffle       74. Five-knuckle-shuffle on the old piss pump       75. Flick your Bic       76. Fling your phallus       77. Flip the Bishop       78. Flog the Bishop       79. Flog the dog       80. Flog the dolphin       81. Flog the dong       82. Flog the hog       83. Flog the log       84. Flog the mule       85. Fly fishing       86. Fondle your flagpole       87. Free Willy       88. Friggit       89. Frost the pastries       90. Gallop the antelope       91. Gallop the old lizard       92. Genital stimulation via phallengetic motion       93. Get a date with Slick Mittens       94. Get chafed       95. Get off       96. Get the German soldier marching       97. Get to know yourself       98. Get your pole varnished       99. Give it a tug      100. Give your low five      101. Go a couple of rounds with ol’ Josh      102. Go blind      103. Go on a date with Fisty Palmer      104. Go on a date with Handrea and Palmela      105. Go the blow      106. Goose the gherkin      107. Grease the pipe      108. Hack the hog      109. Hand job      110. Hand shandy      111. Hard labor      112. Have one off the wrist      113. Hitchhike to heaven      114. Hitchhike underneath the big top      115. Hold the Bishop      116. Hold the sausage hostage      117. Hone the cone      118. Honk your horn      119. Hug the hog      120. Human version of AUTOEXEC.BAT      121. Hump your hose      122. Jack hammer      123. Jack off      124. Jazz yourself      125. Jerk      126. Jerk Jamby      127. Jerk it      128. Jerk off      129. Jerk the gherkin      130. Jizzlob      131. JocelynEldering      132. Kick your roommate out for five to ten minutes to "call your parents"      133. Look for ticks      134. Lope the mule      135. Love the muppet      136. Love’s labors lost      137. Make a foreskin cone      138. Make instant pudding      139. Make the bald man puke      140. Making soup      141. Mangle the midget      142. Manipulate the mango      143. Manual labor      144. Manual override      145. Master Bacon, meet Rosie Hancock      146. Meat with Mother Thumb and her four daughters      147. Milk the Lizard      148. Milk the cow      149. Milk the moose      150. Milk the self      151. Milking the lizard      152. Mount a corporal and four      153. Much goo about nothing      154. Nerk your throbber      155. Null the void      156. Oil the glove      157. Onan’s olympics      158. One gun salute      159. One man band      160. One-night-stand with yourself      161. Pack your palm      162. Paddle the pickle      163. Paint the ceiling      164. Paint the pickle      165. Palm the calm      166. Peel some chilis      167. Peel the banana      168. Perform diagnostics on your ManTool      169. Pet the lizard      170. Pip the pumpkin      171. Play Uno      172. Play a little five-on-one      173. Play a one stringed guitar      174. Play five against one      175. Play in a one-man show      176. Play peek-a-boo      177. Play pocket pinball      178. Play pocket pool      179. Play tag with the pink torpedo      180. Play the skin flute      181. Play tug-o-war with Cyclops      182. Play with your turtle (for uncircumcised guys)      183. Playing the one-stringed melody      184. Please your pisser      185. Plunk your twanger      186. Polish Percy in your palm      187. Polish the Rocket      188. Polish the family jewels      189. Polish the helmet      190. Polish the rock-hard staff of St. Peter      191. Polish the rocket      192. Polish the sword      193. Pound off      194. Pound the bald-headed moose      195. Pound the pud      196. Pound your flounder      197. Pound your pud      198. Prepare the carrot      199. Prime the pump      200. Pull off      201. Pull rank      202. Pull the bologna pony      203. Pull the carrot      204. Pull the cord      205. Pull the goalie      206. Pull the pole      207. Pull the Pope      208. Pull the pud      209. Pull your own leg      210. Pull your prick      211. Pull your taffy      212. Pump the python      213. Pump the stump      214. Punch the clown      215. Punch the munchkin      216. Punish Percy in your palm      217. Ram the ham      218. Relieve tension      219. Ride the great white knuckler      220. Roll your own      221. Romeo and Himself      222. Rope the pony      223. Rope the Pope      224. Rub off      225. Rub one out      226. Rub the pink eraser      227. Run off a batch by hand      228. Sacrifice sperm to the god of lonely nights      229. Safest sex      230. Sand wood      231. Scour the tower of power      232. Scratch the itch      233. Secret handshake      234. Self abuse      235. Self-induced penile regurgitation      236. Sex with someone you really love      237. Shag      238. Shake hands with Abe Lincoln      239. Shake hands with Yul Brynner      240. Shake hands with the midget      241. Shake hands with the unemployed      242. Shake hands with your John Thomas      243. Shake hands with your wife’s best friend      244. Shake the sauce      245. Shake the sausage      246. Shake the snake      247. Shaling the snake      248. Shellac the shillelagh      249. Shemp the hog      250. Shift gears      251. Shine the helmet      252. Shine your pole      253. Shoot for the moon      254. Shoot putty at the moon      255. Shoot the airplane      256. Shuck your corn      257. Slakin’ the bacon      258. Slam the ham      259. Slam the salami      260. Slam the salmon      261. Slam the spam      262. Slap high fives with Yul Brynner      263. Slap it      264. Slap pappy      265. Slap the carrot      266. Slap the clown      267. Slap the donkey      268. Slap the pud      269. Slap the purple headed yogurt pistol      270. Slap the salami      271. Sling the jelly      272. Smack off      273. Smack the salami      274. Snap the monkey      275. Snap the rubber      276. Snap the whip      277. Solo flight      278. Solo marathon      279. Solo sex      280. Spank Frank (or Elvis)      281. Spank the Bishop      282. Spank the frank      283. Spank the monkey      284. Spank the salami      285. Spank the wank      286. Squeeze the cheese      287. Squeeze the juice      288. Squeeze the toothpaste in the middle of the tube      289. Squeeze your cheese-dog      290. Stinky pinky      291. Stir the batter      292. Stir the yogurt      293. Strain the main vein      294. Stroke it      295. Stroke off      296. Stroke the carrot      297. Stroke the dog      298. Stroke the mole      299. Stroke the one-eyed burping gecko      300. Stroke the satin-headed serpent      301. Stroke your poker      302. Stroke your twinkie      303. Strumming the one string harp      304. Take matters into your own hands      305. Take part in population control

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(top-posting) This has to be shared with some other newsgroups… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – GROUP WANTS TO BAN MASTURBATION BY YOSSARIAN KHAN THE FAUX NEWS SERVICE www.ftpg.net WASHINGTON — John Spankitt, president of the Sperm Is Life League (SPILL) today announced a campaign to outlaw masturbation. Within the month, according to Spankitt, SPILL plans to lobby President Bush, members of Congress, and state governors to introduce legislation criminalizing male self-gratification. "Men who masturbate quite clearly are murdering a potential life." Spankitt said. "Each teaspoonful of ejaculate carries millions of sperm, a single one of which can bring life. I think it’s pretty obvious that masturbators are killers." Mr. Spankitt said that details of detection and prosecution had yet to be addressed, but he was confident that answers would be coming soon. "President Bush and Congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle have expressed interest in our issue. They think it’s important to take a stand for life. It’s about morality." When questioned about possible sanctions, Spankitt referred to the Bible. "We’re debating that right now. Matthew 5:30 says ‘If thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee . . .’ We think that’s a good start for first offenders. Amputation and education–those are key." SPILL plans to organize nationwide "SPILL Circles" in which men may come together for help with their compulsion. "Second offenders would have to be dealt with more severely," Spankitt continued. "As Genesis 38:9-10 says ‘. . . he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also.’ You can draw your own conclusions." Several reporters attempted to ask Spankitt if he had ever engaged in masturbation himself, at which time he declared the press conference closed and rushed from the room with the aid of his guide dog.

            M/M and now, to add to this story,  we have late-breaking news- A  complete list of acts which Spill wishes to ban follows:  THE CANONICAL LIST OF EUPHEMISMS FOR MALE MASTURBATION:        1. Arm-wrestle with your one-eyed vessel        2. Attack the one-eyed purple-headed warrior        3. Audition the finger puppets        4. Audition your hand puppet        5. Backstroke roulette        6. Bash the candle        7. Battle with the Purple Helmeted Warrior of Love        8. Be your own best friend        9. Beat off       10. Beat the Bishop       11. Beat the bologna       12. Beat the dummy       13. Beat the meat       14. Beat the pud       15. Beat the stick       16. Beat up your date       17. Beef tips stroking off       18. Bleed the weed       19. Blow your load       20. Blow your own horn       21. Bludgeon the beefsteak       22. Bop the bologna       23. Bop the bonzo       24. Box the Jesuit       25. Box with Richard       26. Buff the banana       27. Bugger your hand       28. Burp the baby       29. Burp the worm       30. Butter the corn       31. Caning the vandal       32. Charm the snake       33. Check for testicular cancer       34. Cheese off       35. Choke Kojak       36. Choke the chicken       37. Choke the sheriff and wait for the posse to come       38. Clamp the pipe       39. Clean your rifle       40. Clear the snorkel       41. Climb the tree       42. Closet Frisbee       43. Come into your own       44. Cook the cream of cock       45. Corral your tadpole       46. Couch hockey for one       47. Crank the love pump       48. Crank the shank       49. Crimp the wire       50. Crown the king       51. Cuddle the kielbasa       52. Cuff the carrot       53. Daisy-chaining       54. Date Miss Michigan       55. Date Mrs. Palmer and Her five daughters       56. Date Rosie Palm and her five sisters       57. Defrosting the fridge       58. Diddle       59. Digital penile oscillation       60. Do It Your Way       61. Do handiwork       62. Do the White Knuckler       63. Do the janitor thing       64. Drain the monster       65. Dry humping the ottoman       66. Electing the President       67. Engage in safe sex       68. Exercise one’s right       69. Feed the ducks       70. Fiddle the flesh flute       71. Fist fuck       72. Fist your mister       73. Five knuckle shuffle       74. Five-knuckle-shuffle on the old piss pump       75. Flick your Bic       76. Fling your phallus       77. Flip the Bishop       78. Flog the Bishop       79. Flog the dog       80. Flog the dolphin       81. Flog the dong       82. Flog the hog       83. Flog the log       84. Flog the mule       85. Fly fishing       86. Fondle your flagpole       87. Free Willy       88. Friggit       89. Frost the pastries       90. Gallop the antelope       91. Gallop the old lizard       92. Genital stimulation via phallengetic motion       93. Get a date with Slick Mittens       94. Get chafed       95. Get off       96. Get the German soldier marching       97. Get to know yourself       98. Get your pole varnished       99. Give it a tug      100. Give your low five      101. Go a couple of rounds with ol’ Josh      102. Go blind      103. Go on a date with Fisty Palmer      104. Go on a date with Handrea and Palmela      105. Go the blow      106. Goose the gherkin      107. Grease the pipe      108. Hack the hog      109. Hand job      110. Hand shandy      111. Hard labor      112. Have one off the wrist      113. Hitchhike to heaven      114. Hitchhike underneath the big top      115. Hold the Bishop      116. Hold the sausage hostage      117. Hone the cone      118. Honk your horn      119. Hug the hog      120. Human version of AUTOEXEC.BAT      121. Hump your hose      122. Jack hammer      123. Jack off      124. Jazz yourself      125. Jerk      126. Jerk Jamby      127. Jerk it      128. Jerk off      129. Jerk the gherkin      130. Jizzlob      131. JocelynEldering      132. Kick your roommate out for five to ten minutes to "call your parents"      133. Look for ticks      134. Lope the mule      135. Love the muppet      136. Love’s labors lost      137. Make a foreskin cone      138. Make instant pudding      139. Make the bald man puke      140. Making soup      141. Mangle the midget      142. Manipulate the mango      143. Manual labor      144. Manual override      145. Master Bacon, meet Rosie Hancock      146. Meat with Mother Thumb and her four daughters      147. Milk the Lizard      148. Milk the cow      149. Milk the moose      150. Milk the self      151. Milking the lizard      152. Mount a corporal and four      153. Much goo about nothing      154. Nerk your throbber      155. Null the void      156. Oil the glove      157. Onan’s olympics      158. One gun salute      159. One man band      160. One-night-stand with yourself      161. Pack your palm      162. Paddle the pickle      163. Paint the ceiling      164. Paint the pickle      165. Palm the calm      166. Peel some chilis      167. Peel the banana      168. Perform diagnostics on your ManTool      169. Pet the lizard      170. Pip the pumpkin      171. Play Uno      172. Play a little five-on-one      173. Play a one stringed guitar      174. Play five against one      175. Play in a one-man show      176. Play peek-a-boo      177. Play pocket pinball      178. Play pocket pool      179. Play tag with the pink torpedo      180. Play the skin flute      181. Play tug-o-war with Cyclops      182. Play with your turtle (for uncircumcised guys)      183. Playing the one-stringed melody      184. Please your pisser      185. Plunk your twanger      186. Polish Percy in your palm      187. Polish the Rocket      188. Polish the family jewels      189. Polish the helmet      190. Polish the rock-hard staff of St. Peter      191. Polish the rocket      192. Polish the sword      193. Pound off      194. Pound the bald-headed moose      195. Pound the pud      196. Pound your flounder      197. Pound your pud      198. Prepare the carrot      199. Prime the pump      200. Pull off      201. Pull rank      202. Pull the bologna pony      203. Pull the carrot      204. Pull the cord      205. Pull the goalie      206. Pull the pole      207. Pull the Pope      208. Pull the pud      209. Pull your own leg      210. Pull your prick      211. Pull your taffy      212. Pump the python      213. Pump the stump      214. Punch the clown      215. Punch the munchkin      216. Punish Percy in your palm      217. Ram the ham      218. Relieve tension      219. Ride the great white knuckler      220. Roll your own      221. Romeo and Himself      222. Rope the pony      223. Rope the Pope      224. Rub off      225. Rub one out      226. Rub the pink eraser      227. Run off a batch by hand      228. Sacrifice sperm to the god of lonely nights      229. Safest sex      230. Sand wood      231. Scour the tower of power      232. Scratch the itch      233. Secret handshake      234. Self abuse      235. Self-induced penile regurgitation      236. Sex with someone you really love      237. Shag      238. Shake hands with Abe Lincoln      239. Shake hands with Yul Brynner      240. Shake hands with the midget      241. Shake hands with the unemployed      242. Shake hands with your John Thomas      243. Shake hands with your wife’s best friend      244. Shake the sauce      245. Shake the sausage      246. Shake the snake      247. Shaling the snake      248. Shellac the shillelagh      249. Shemp the hog      250. Shift gears      251. Shine the helmet      252. Shine your pole      253. Shoot for the moon      254. Shoot putty at the moon      255. Shoot the airplane      256. Shuck your corn      257. Slakin’ the bacon      258. Slam the ham      259. Slam the salami      260. Slam the salmon      261. Slam the spam      262. Slap high fives with Yul

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  . . . exactly. And its nice not having to pick the pellets out. An obvious fin/feather combo, without all the noise.

Exactly! <g — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

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  . . . exactly. And its nice not having to pick the pellets out. An obvious fin/feather combo, without all the noise. Exactly! <g

And just like fish, you can use parts of one to catch another. Joe F.

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Ken, Kevin, Warren… Howdy!! I am @ site #80 in the Mammoth Hot Springs campground….

Richard, Don’t know which you’ll see first but I left a note at your campsite and another at Clave Central letting them know where you are. Clave Central is located at the Eagle Creek Campground. It’s about two miles from Gardiner on the road to Jardine. Coming from Mammoth the road to Jardine is the first right after you cross the Yellowstone. Sorry to have missed you, … Have a GREAT Clave ! — Ken Fortenberry

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got it ken…it is now fri evening…i will drop by clave central and look around…..then, its back down to the hot creek, for the evening hot bath…another great day of fishing today.. i took a lot of digital photos…will post later… richard / colorado

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ken, Kevin, Warren… Howdy!! I am @ site #80 in the Mammoth Hot Springs campground…. Richard, Don’t know which you’ll see first but I left a note at your campsite and another at Clave Central letting them know where you are. Clave Central is located at the Eagle Creek Campground. It’s about two miles from Gardiner on the road to Jardine. Coming from Mammoth the road to Jardine is the first right after you cross the Yellowstone. Sorry to have missed you, … Have a GREAT Clave ! — Ken Fortenberry

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Dammit! Something’s wrong with my computer – it keeps flashing to some Internet Flyfishing Soap channel… /daytripper (as the world turns) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – got it ken…it is now fri evening…i will drop by clave central and look around…..then, its back down to the hot creek, for the evening hot bath…another great day of fishing today.. i took a lot of digital photos…will post later… richard / colorado Ken, Kevin, Warren… Howdy!! I am @ site #80 in the Mammoth Hot Springs campground…. Richard, Don’t know which you’ll see first but I left a note at your campsite and another at Clave Central letting them know where you are. Clave Central is located at the Eagle Creek Campground. It’s about two miles from Gardiner on the road to Jardine. Coming from Mammoth the road to Jardine is the first right after you cross the Yellowstone. Sorry to have missed you, … Have a GREAT Clave ! — Ken Fortenberry

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Just ask Warren about the duck…. giggle…. snort… oh, I can’t hold it any longer! Hahh.hah..hahhh…Jeeez… you think he’ll make fun of the way I fish??… — Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana www.diamondnoutfitters.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dammit! Something’s wrong with my computer – it keeps flashing to some Internet Flyfishing Soap channel… /daytripper (as the world turns)

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Just ask Warren about the duck…. giggle…. snort… oh, I can’t hold it any longer! Hahh.hah..hahhh…Jeeez… you think he’ll make fun of the way I fish??…

Why stop at fish?  Why are ducks so special that you can’t catch them? <g Warren

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Just ask Warren about the duck…. giggle…. snort… oh, I can’t hold it any longer! Hahh.hah..hahhh…Jeeez… you think he’ll make fun of the way I fish??… Why stop at fish?  Why are ducks so special that you can’t catch them? <g Warren

. . . exactly. And its nice not having to pick the pellets out. An obvious fin/feather combo, without all the noise. Dave

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Ken, Kevin, Warren… Howdy!! I am @ site #80 in the Mammoth Hot Springs campground….do drop by and let me know the registration desk told me Ken cancelled his frontier cabin reservations…she was not aware of the group staying in a set of cabins…..anyway…I had a great afternoon (thur) session on the Yellowstone River, just above Tower Falls… I am not checking e mail regularly…so, drop by the camp site!!…otherwise, maybe i will run into you guys out on the rivers!!.. hands….then, back up to the campsite.. Regards.. Richard / colorado

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All Rounder with many extras. 10 ft.  1 or 2 people.  600 lb capacity.

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 we can pic up a pail of lard for jeff to cook the eggs in,

actually, after careful study of the fly dressing thread, i’m ordering a barrel of albolene…understand it has a thousand uses… jeff

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a thousand and one…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  we can pic up a pail of lard for jeff to cook the eggs in, actually, after careful study of the fly dressing thread, i’m ordering a barrel of albolene…understand it has a thousand uses… jeff

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Mail by several of the members of that group to request that I ask you guys to stay at home. Their group has many fine ladies and gentlemen involved who like to discuss the finer points of technical points of fishing  , cigar smoking, and didigal camera without the necessity of deleting  a bunch of messages fro  a bunch of drunken rowdies planning another meeting in the woods.  I of course replied -something here inside cannot be denied- when smoke gets in your eyes.             We will have plenty of food for the  spring clave, lots of wild weeds to make Ken"s meetless lasanga,  tomatoes will be in season so Dave an juswt drop whole big ones   in his tacos, I sill have a half gallon of Wall Mart special red,  we can pic up a pail of lard for jeff to cook the eggs in, and I know Walt has a couple of jars of spaghetti sauce. God I’m getting as silly as the rest of you jackasses.  Indian Joe3 ied

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As it seems like golf is kinda taking over the ‘clave, I propose we rename the fishing part "The Tim Walker Invitaional Wet Golf Classic." Now for the hard part.  We have to select the course, figure out scoring and handicapping, what consitutes "out of bounds", penalty strokes for refusals and long-line releases, plus important stuff, like who’s cabin is the 19th hole and will Tim fly out from Aspen to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Peter

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and will Tim fly out from Aspen to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.)

Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards, Anthony Ritter

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award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter

An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

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award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

All I have to say is somebody had better take pictures and put up a webpage after all this for those of us who can’t make it to the clave.  We expect the final tally’s for all competitions held including all the embarrassing details.  :-) Later,      - Ken

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Why not save time and just fish the hazards ? "Let’s Dance" Rodney Dangerfield,  Caddyshack — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Why not save time and just fish the hazards ?

Tim, It must be *exciting* to have an annual golf tourney named after you.  Will you be on hand at the clubhouse to make the presentation of the Orvis bullett proof vest a la the Masters? Keep on swingin’, Anthony Ritter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

____ Do not, send a boy to do a man’s job. ; ) (Thank you God)  Don’t let this characters get away. please (We should have a video tape of the skins game) —

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I am planning a trip to Mosquito Lagoon the weekend of July 24.  This is a trip I am very excited about since I’ve wanted to fish that area for a long time.  My primary target is reds but will take anything that bites.  I use both light tackle and fly gear, artificials only.  I will only have a 15′ canoe with trolling motor. Any areas that you could suggest including launch sites would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Dave Moore Dave’s South Florida Home Page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9975

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning a trip to Mosquito Lagoon the weekend of July 24.  This is a trip I am very excited about since I’ve wanted to fish that area for a long time.  My primary target is reds but will take anything that bites.  I use both light tackle and fly gear, artificials only.  I will only have a 15′ canoe with trolling motor. Any areas that you could suggest including launch sites would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Dave Moore Dave’s South Florida Home Page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9975

      I’d not worry about a boat, but instead hire a guide. There are any number, all listed in the yellow pages. Some even guarentee "fish or no fee". Make sure the guide is a light/fly guide. The average price last time I checked was $250/ 1/2 day. Even if you don’t fish, the view and wildlife is well worth the price, and a real bargain with fishing thrown in.                                                       John Popp                                                     in Sanford Fl.

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I am planning a trip to Mosquito Lagoon the weekend of July 24.  This is a trip I am very excited about since I’ve wanted to fish that area for a long time.  My primary target is reds but will take anything that bites.  I use both light tackle and fly gear, artificials only.  I will only have a 15′ canoe with trolling motor. Any areas that you could suggest including launch sites would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Dave Moore

DAve, There are only 2 access points to the lagoon both are on the Canaveral national seashore. The north entry point ( best fishing) is off of A1A in New Smyrna. The second is Eddy creek out of Titusville on rt 402. The primary fish in the lagoon are Reds, LAdyfish, Trout and Jacks with Tarpon and snook being there every once in a while. Hope this helps.      Jim Dave’s South Florida Home Page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9975

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning a trip to Mosquito Lagoon the weekend of July 24.  This is a trip I am very excited about since I’ve wanted to fish that area for a long time.  My primary target is reds but will take anything that bites.  I use both light tackle and fly gear, artificials only.  I will only have a 15′ canoe with trolling motor. Any areas that you could suggest including launch sites would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Dave Moore DAve, There are only 2 access points to the lagoon both are on the Canaveral national seashore. The north entry point ( best fishing) is off of A1A in New Smyrna. The second is Eddy creek out of Titusville on rt 402. The primary fish in the lagoon are Reds, LAdyfish, Trout and Jacks with Tarpon and snook being there every once in a while. Hope this helps.     Jim Dave’s South Florida Home Page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9975 I don’t understand that there are only two access points to the

Indian River Lagoon. The lagoon streaches from New Syrna to below Vero Beach There are literally thousands of access places. There are also some very good guides that work the river and the Banana River. If you are coming to Central Florida for the first time I strongly suggest you use a guide for your first experience. If you want the names and address of some guides Email me and I will supply you several. George Partridge Custom Rods – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Dave’s South Florida Home Page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9975 I don’t understand that there are only two access points to the Indian River Lagoon. The lagoon streaches from New Syrna to below Vero Beach

There are literally thousands of access places. There are also some very good guides that work the river and the Banana River. If you are coming to Central Florida for the first time I strongly suggest you

use a guide for your first experience. If you want the names and address of some guides Email me and I will supply you several. George

The Lagoon its self is only 23 miles long. it goes from New Smyrna to Titusville. The bannana river runs to Vero beach. Both are great fishing but the lagoon has most of the flats for reds. If you want snook ( big snook) head towards Vero. Hope this clears things up.      Jim Partridge Custom Rods

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Next month there will be a fly fishing/tying seminar, January 9 & 10 at Boise State University.  Big names like Jack Dennis, Mike Lawson, and Gary LaFontaine are the headliners.  Two day seminar; each day different, and you can go for one or both days.  Cost is $25 for one day, $45 for both.  A free video with admission.  Raffles, other good stuff. Good way to spend that extra Christmas cash you will find in your stocking. Better yet, hint to your spouse or email Santa Claus that a seminar pass would be a great Christmas gift. The local fishing clubs, like the Ted Trueblood Chapter of Trout Unlimited, Boise Valley Fly Fishermen, Fly Fishers of Idaho etc. are working with the Idaho Angler to put this on.  Proceeds will go to a special account set up for the purpose of making some appropriate investments at Mormon Reservoir, the new trophy trout reservoir south of Fairfield, Idaho. For more information, or to sign up call the Idaho Angler at:  800-787-9957,

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The seminar is actually on January 10 and 11, Saturday & Sunday.

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The Irish National Tourist Board (in New York City–and I assume in their Australian offices as well) has some excellent–and free–materials regarding regulations, accommodations, fishing opportunities, etc., which are no substitute for what Tord Andreasson listed, but they are a worthwhile supplement. I am going to Ireland in September –anyone got any information re fly fishing in Ireland. Robin Widdowson Victoria Australia

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I am going to Ireland in September –anyone got any information re fly fishing in Ireland. Robin Widdowson Victoria Australia

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I am going to Ireland in September –anyone got any information re fly fishing in Ireland. Robin Widdowson Victoria Australia

Robin, Here follows a reprint of articles I read some time ago. Hope this helps, Tord Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Hi William, I am interested in any publications on ffishing in Ireland in order to prepare for a trip in several years.

This is a fairly easy one thankfully, just get the following two books:- "Trout and Salmon Loughs of Ireland" and "Trout and Salmon Rivers of Ireland" They are both written by Peter O’Reilly, the ISBN on the Loughs one is 0-00-218415-X These are very good books for the local and visiting angler and well worth a read, they cover all types of water in all areas of the country and have useful lists of contacts and the like. Needless to say they can’t cover every bit of water in the country but they cover a wide variaty of waters in each area, complete with maps. Regards, Philip Blair. *** Nation Shall Peak Six Unto Nation. *** Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly I am interested in any publications on ffishing in Ireland in order to prepare for a trip in several years.

Don’t miss C.C. O’Malley’s With a Fishing Rod In Ireland (Vantage Press, 1975.)  (This is the only "vanity press" publication I’ve ever seen that was worth 10 times the cover price.) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I am in Lake in the Hills, IL, and although the air near my house is thick with the scent of blooming clover, I have seen no bees, honey, bumble or otherwise.

Interesting. I’m quite close to you (Lake Zurich, IL) and our bee population seems fine… Network Administrator                         Phone: (847) 491-3691 MEAS, Northwestern University Evanston, IL                            http://www.tech.nwu.edu/support

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Here in Syracuse, NY, no honey bees for the last 2 or 3 years.  There seem to be a LOT of bumblebees now, though.

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Seems the same around here as the past two years. No, I take that back. Slightly better. I saw a honey bee last week. That’s only one, count it, one, bee. (*sob!*) But then that’s a few weeks earlier than last two years…. But I have two resident bumblebee nests this year (Yay!), and they did a nice job pollinating my raspberries! Through deer netting even! DT zone 5/6

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I am in Lake in the Hills, IL, and although the air near my house is thick with the scent of blooming clover, I have seen no bees, honey, bumble or otherwise.

Interesting. I’m quite close to you (Lake Zurich, IL) and our bee population seems fine… Odds are that you have a beekeeper near you. Dave Green   Heminway, SC   29554 http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html

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Lots of honeybees here in the Finger Lakes area of NY. I had to laugh watching them on the chive flowers-their weight slowly bending the chive to the ground. All of our fruit trees are loaded with fruit too, unlike last year. — These opinions are mine and you have to get your own.. Judy Scott Cornell University Ithaca, NY

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I didn’t see any honey bees at all.  However, we’ve been having summer squashed producing very well, sunburst, crookneck, yellow, and pale green zukes plus cucumbers.  We’ve also been picking pole beans for 4 week now.  We live in Southern California.  I wondered how these goodies pollinated.  I saw only one bumblebee in the garden, she looked real busy, though, it’s hard to believe that she could do all the works. Until this morning, I went to dump kitchen scrap to the compost pile and notice 2 fat and fuzzy honey bees got real busy inside a male squash blossom.  The mystery was solved and I’m so happy to spot them.  We both work full time with two little children so we can only work in the garden after coming home from work and on the weekends.  I guess the bees like to feed in private! Happy gardening, Ning Ridenoure (sorry, no e-mail)

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I didn’t see any honey bees at all.  

I’ve got a question. I know that Sevin is toxic to bees, and I don’t use it because of that fact.  I’ve been trying out less toxic pesticides, but I wonder whether they may also harm bees?  Specifically, I’m using pyrethrin spray, sulfur spray as a fungicide on my roses, and Neem oil to repel Japanese beetles.  Do any of these harm bees?  I have just planted fruit trees this year, so I know we’ll need some bees to pollinate.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just saw 2 in my garden!!! I think they are honeybees, the kind we used to call "yellowjackets" as a kid…Is this the right kind????  My tomatoes are flowering, so are the taters, not much else yet, but I am about the only place in the neighborhood that doesnt spray as far as I can tell, so maybe they rest in my yard : ) LauraA Hi Laura.  Yellowjackets aren’t honeybees.  Honeybees are fat little rascals, and brownish, generally.  Yellowjackets are skinny and have yellowish parts to them.  I <think the honeybee population is threatened by an infestation of lice which get into their hives and kill them.  All the more reason to avois spraying other bees and wasps unless they are in a place where there is a lot of traffic, or unless there are little kids around.  We need the pollinators.  John Reiner. Southwestern Illinois, 8 Miles East of the Confluence of the Miss & Mo Rivers USDA Zone 6, Border of Zone 5

John, It’s mites, not lice, that are killing the bees, although this subtle difference is only important to beekeepers, I’m sure.  (And to those of us who are, because of the mites, former beekeepers — a temporary condition I hope!!) Steve  (Maritime Climate — USDA Zone irrelevant)

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Hi Laura.  Yellowjackets aren’t honeybees.  Honeybees are fat little rascals, and brownish, generally.  Yellowjackets are skinny and have yellowish parts to them.  I <think the honeybee population is threatened by an infestation of lice which get into their hives and kill them.  All the more reason to avois spraying other bees and wasps unless they are in a place where there is a lot of traffic, or unless there are little kids around.  We need the pollinators.  John Reiner. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="jrsig.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="jrsig.txt" Southwestern Illinois, 8 Miles East of the Confluence of the Miss & Mo Rivers USDA Zone 6, Border of Zone 5

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I just saw 2 in my garden!!! I think they are honeybees, the kind we used to call "yellowjackets" as a kid…Is this the right kind????  My tomatoes are flowering, so are the taters, not much else yet, but I am about the only place in the neighborhood that doesnt spray as far as I can tell, so maybe they rest in my yard : ) LauraA

Yellowjackets are a kind of wasp.  They are bright yellow and not fuzzy. Honeybees are various shades of yellow-brown and golden brown and are fuzzy.  (Bumblebees are fat and usually black or brown, often with a lighter-colored patch on the last segment(s).) And for all you asparagus growers, I saw a queen yellowjacket busily removing asparagus beetle larvae from my plants the other day.   Yellojackets are indiscriminate predators of other insects but adults will often stop by a flower for a quick drink of high-energy nectar.   Honeybees eat only nectar and pollen as a general rule. Steve  (Maritime Climate — USDA Zone irrelevant)

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? — The opinions expressed in this message are my own and are not the opinions of anyone who does not hold those opinions.

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? —

   In my piedmont NC garden I havn’t seen a single honey bee this year or last.  Lots of bumble bees have taken their place so the number of bees about is about the same. — Lloyd Fortney http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/ has links to my garden, flower, flyfishing, and travel JPEG images as well as teaching, research, and stuff like that

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I am in Rochester, N.Y. and S. Dansville, N.Y. and also have not seen any honey bees, but the bumble bees are numerous and huge.   Linda Woodward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? —

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Much better!!  Last year we saw NO honeybees at all here in MA, but this year they’re everywhere…..lots of honeybees, and all other kinds, too! Speaking of bee-popluations, did anyone hear of the recent study that says that mint may kill the mites that have been destroying the bee larvae?  I don’t know the URL offhand, sorry, but it was interesting. (maybe websearch under bees and mint?) -Kay

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up?

A plague of bees in Houston. Bees everywhere – including my attic! You want ‘em? <g — The Marfa Mystery Lights: http://www.concentric.net/~Slaroche/MARFA.HTM (By sending me unsolicited commercial email, you agree to the Terms and Conditions as listed here: http://www.concentric.net/~Slaroche/SPAM.HTM)

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I am in Rochester, N.Y. and S. Dansville, N.Y. and also have not seen any honey bees, but the bumble bees are numerous and huge.   Linda Woodward

I am in Lake in the Hills, IL, and although the air near my house is thick with the scent of blooming clover, I have seen no bees, honey, bumble or otherwise. It’s depressing.         Paul

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? -We are supposed to have a shortage in Mich.,but my Hawthorne tree is loaded with them,

also salvia plants, nepeta, even in the Iris blooms. They seem to be all over the grounds. Barb- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The opinions expressed in this message are my own and are not the opinions of anyone who does not hold those opinions.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Goodrich) writes: Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? -We are supposed to have a shortage in Mich.,but my Hawthorne tree is loaded with them, also salvia plants, nepeta, even in the Iris blooms. They seem to be all over the grounds.

   A lot depends on whether you have a local beekeeper, and what his/her patterns of bee movement are.  Beekeepers have striven mightily to replenish the bees lost the year before.  Beekeepers who overwintered bees in the midwest and northeast were relieved to see fairly good survival, nothing like the terrible winter of ‘95-96.      Many more northern bees (than usual) were taken south by the commercial beekeepers, because they didn’t want to risk another winter of terrible losses.    Many of the replacement bees are raised in the southeast and gulf coast area for northern beekeepers.  This spring was a rather mild one, and quite good for raising bees.  We shipped many, many truckloads of bees north out of South Carolina.  It’s not always possible with multiple loads but most beekeepers aim to have the bees back by dandelion bloom, which is closely followed by apple and pear bloom.    Many of the commercial beekeepers take the bees into fruit orchards for contract pollination, then put them out for honey production.    The bees you see may have ridden from Louisiana, Florida, or South Carolina to a Michigan orchard for two or three weeks, then were placed in a bee yard near you to catch the black locust, and later clover bloom.    Gardeners would be wise to be aware of beekeeper activity around them, which may not be easy, since some beekeepers are quite secretive. Beekeepers are wary, because so many folks are terrified of bees (especially since the Hollywood "killer bee" movies), and they fear vandalism, or community efforts to chase them out.  Gardeners ought to be smarter than this.  You might even share some of your bounty with him or her.  Commercial beekeeping becomes so intense in the spring, that few have any time to garden themselves, yet they make it possible for others.    I can certainly see the difference in this area in gardens.  I know where the bees are.  You can draw half-mile circles around the bee locations and state that within this area it is possible to grow quality melons, cantaloupe, butter beans, cukes and squash.  Outside the circle, it’s pretty iffy, unless you happen to have a bumblebee nest.  But bumblebees may only have 50 bees in the nest, and they don’t travel far.    But I am also saddened to see so many blooming butter beans, cukes, squash and other plants plastered white with Sevin dust, a violation of the label directions. We report violations on larger acreages, but mostly ignore them on gardens. Why do folks bite the hand that feeds them?  -A little knowledge, a little care, and the bees will be protected……    All in all, honeybee populations are certainly not restored to the levels of 1950 for sure, but they are quite improved from last year, wherever there are beekeepers. There is still a shortage, but not as bad, and we are becoming ever more efficient at commercial crop pollination.    If there are no kept bees, it may still be quite barren.  I have to supress a laugh every time I see a post about "attracting" honeybees.  You can’t attract what isn’t there; the energy would be better spent in attracting a beekeeper.    In a few areas wild solitary bees have increased, and may fill in gaps here and there.  But overall, the wild bees have also dwindled.  They have no protection from pesticide misuse, where honeybees may be defended by a human.    Another encouraging trend is the number of brand new beekeepers.  Many of these are in suburban environments and have started one or a few hives for the first time ever.  Bee equipment supply houses are having a banner year, with all the new startups.  I hope that some of these hobby beekeepers will go on to resupply the dwindling supply of commercial beekeepers.  I am 52, and I am usually one of the youngest at beekeeper meetings. Dave Green     Hemingway, SC   29554 Practical Pollination Page   http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation and we were all going to starve because the bees wouldn’t be around to polinate our crops. This year, not a peep. So, what’s up? — The opinions expressed in this message are my own and are not the opinions of anyone who does not hold those opinions.

Last year I did not see a single honeybee, though we have lots of bumblebees and carpenter bees, and zillions of various little bee/wasp types in the flowers. This year, three separate times, I have seen a single (one) honeybee.         –SB in northern MD

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Nothing yet in central Va.  Breaks my heart

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Last year I didn’t see many … this year (I have many, many more flowers) I see a few every time I’m out working in the gardens.  (I’m in Orlando, FL) http://members.aol.com/wilona1/index.html Pages updated June 6, 1997 – NEW:  Handmade Baby Afghans!!! Gardening – Genealogy – Newsletter – Links

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I just saw 2 in my garden!!! I think they are honeybees, the kind we used to call "yellowjackets" as a kid…Is this the right kind????  My tomatoes are flowering, so are the taters, not much else yet, but I am about the only place in the neighborhood that doesnt spray as far as I can tell, so maybe they rest in my yard : ) LauraA

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(snip)    I can certainly see the difference in this area in gardens.  I know where the bees are.  You can draw half-mile circles around the bee locations and state that within this area it is possible to grow quality melons, cantaloupe, butter beans, cukes and squash.  Outside the circle, it’s pretty iffy, unless you happen to have a bumblebee nest.  But bumblebees may only have 50 bees in the nest, and they don’t travel far.    But I am also saddened to see so many blooming butter beans, cukes, squash and other plants plastered white with Sevin dust, a violation of the label directions. We report violations on larger acreages, but mostly ignore them on gardens. Why do folks bite the hand that feeds them?  -A little knowledge, a little care, and the bees will be protected……

(snip) An excellent observation.  I don’t think most people who apply broad-spectrum pesticides really appreciate how necessary "good" bugs are to their gardens. (and maybe even some "bad" bugs, too) Even a huge jungle forest is dependent on birds, animals, and insects for pollination and seed dispersal.  It’s a system, and so are gardens. Killing every insect in a yard – beneficials included – is just plain ignorant. Maybe some good will actually come out of the mite infestation of the insecticide-weakened U. S. honeybee population, if many more people now understand that we NEED those little guys going from flower to flower. Don Chapman Bio/Organics, Inc. Camarillo CA <http://www.bio-organics.com

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I am in Lake in the Hills, IL, and although the air near my house is thick with the scent of blooming clover, I have seen no bees, honey, bumble or otherwise. It’s depressing.

I finally saw some bees today (honey and bumble) in the back yard. Much happier!         Paul

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Last year the news was full of stories of how the bees in the US were all suffering from a mite infestation … <stuff deleted This year, not a peep. So, what’s up?

Adding in comments from a Colorado Front Range garden, rural Boulder County, I too have been very keen on seeing what’s happened to the bees.   There have been a few bumblebees and fewer still of any other kind. My knowledge of entomology is very limited, but the ‘others’ were what my parents in southern Wisconsin call ‘honeybees’.   for what it’s worth … elisa

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Several flyfishing folks in the Northeast Texas area are interested in organizing a FF club and  have ‘kinda’ elected me to put it together.  If anyone has any experience in organizing or even being a member in a FF club I could use some (all) of your guidance.  We would like to have it somewhere between a beer bust in the back yard and formal reading of the minutes etc. Thanks for any help! Knack Whitehouse, TX

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Several flyfishing folks in the Northeast Texas area are interested in organizing a FF club and have ‘kinda’ elected me to put it together.  If anyone has any experience in organizing or even being a member in a FF club I could use some (all) of your guidance.  We would like to have it somewhere between a beer bust in the back yard and formal reading of the minutes etc. Thanks for any help! Knack Whitehouse, TX

Hi Knack Contact the Federation of Fly Fishers at 800-618-0808 and ask for their "Forming a Club" literature.  The information is straight forward and easy to follow. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Southern council of FFF (includes TX) has a web site: http://www.sky.net/~flyfish/ There are several small/local clubs affiliated with FFF. I don’t know the economics of the affiliation, but there might be something for you there. John Nesselrode Shawnee, KS

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