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During the height of "hummingbird season" I use 10-15 lbs of sugar a week to make the solution. Can I have your "recipe" please?

I’ve never measured sugar to water, but an approximation would be about 1/2 cup sugar to about 3/4 cup water.  Heat water, stirring, until sugar dissolved, add a drop or so of red food coloring, and cool in fridge.  Makes about a qt. Once the birds start lapping up the solution I make about 3 qts at a time. This solution has about 2 – 2.5x more sugar than the commercial powders, and so hummingbirds have to make the trip to the feeder a little less often (which was the point of revving up the sugar).  I had checked with an ornithologist where I work, who blessed the enriched solution.  It can be made even sweeter with no harm to the birds. Note of caution…..I don’t know if beet sugar is sold in the UK, but thru trial and error I discovered that the birds reject a solution of beet sugar (or did mine anyway); I use only cane sugar now. Mac

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This is when a hawk or other predator approaches and smaller birds band together in a planned attack to drive off the intruder. I have seen hawks dive bombed this way by a bunch of starlings.

<nodding   A few years ago I heard loud, continuous bird screeches in back of the house and went to find out what was happening.  A number of birds were attacking an eagle, dive-bombing it and had driven the eagle to flying about 4 feet above the ground.  In a matter of minutes it  had flown off.  I was happy for the escape of any potential prey but I missed a great opportunity to photograph the scene. My hummingbirds have not arrived as yet here in Pa.

Not all the hummingbirds leave this area during the Winter….since it’s a cold "Northern" winter only a few days a season.  A few birds are back at the feeder; in a few weeks, there’ll be a clan gathering of multiple generations. During the height of "hummingbird season" I use 10-15 lbs of sugar a week to make the solution. Mac

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I think cats are the lords and ladies of the earth.  :-) So do the cats. (Hi, Mac … )

Good morning, Arjay.   Small point of order … Fossey worked with _mountain_ gorillas.

When I read over what I had typed, I thought there was something "off"  (blush, blush).  Thanks. Again, a number of species that form families or troops for survival  also develop within the "family" strong sibling and mother-dtr ties, hunting for one another, caring for one another’s offspring, looking out for orphans, protecting one another. That applies in many species.  Look into the behaviours of many social animals: African elephants may be the most striking example.

Yes. If the wolves’ territoriality were unique to the species Tacon’s conjecture would seem stronger.   Mac

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "DawnoftheForest" wrote … Mcc6050 wrote … Dogs rule Hmmmm….I think cats are the lords and ladies of the earth.  :-) So do the cats. (Hi, Mac … ) Interesting article…some comments: Tacon said modern man’s strong territorialism is not shared by other primates. I don’t think that’s all that accurate.  The work by Goodall and Fossey showed that troops/families of chimps and low-land gorillas are territorial. Their findings were, IIRC, mostly confirmations of things suggested by the earlier work of Konrad Lorenz. Even when developing the concept of "imprinting" Lorenz made some passing comments on the apparent territoriality of geese, and I seem to recall he expanded on those comments in _Das sogenannte B

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says… I recommend Oak Creek, Michael, or the Verde River near Dead Horse Ranch. Here’s a couple of links you might find handy: http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/fis_oc.htm http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/m_ocs.htm Enjoy your visit! Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496

I’ve been out in Flagstaff twice…both before I started flyfishing!  I may be out there in mid-May and have a day or 2 free.  Thanks for the pointers. Rob

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Michael, Check out www.smallstreams.com It’s mostly about Arizona streams. Thanks, Russ in Tucson

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I recommend Oak Creek, Michael, or the Verde River near Dead Horse Ranch. Here’s a couple of links you might find handy: http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/fis_oc.htm http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/m_ocs.htm Enjoy your visit!

Oh man, the agony of it all!!! I own a house in Flagstaff, and lived there for 12 years, but only took up flyfishing after I left. I never knew there were trout in Oak Creek or the Verde, despite having paddled both rivers (esp the remote stretches of the Verde) dozens of times!!  When I think of all the trips I took, and all those ‘never fished’ stretches I must have passed over because I wasn’t a flyfisher……the thought of the missed opportunities tears me up!!!! riverman

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recommend Oak Creek, Michael, or the Verde River near Dead Horse Ranch. Here’s a couple of links you might find handy: http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/fis_oc.htm http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/m_ocs.htm Enjoy your visit! Oh man, the agony of it all!!! I own a house in Flagstaff, and lived there for 12 years, but only took up flyfishing after I left. I never knew there were trout in Oak Creek or the Verde, despite having paddled both rivers (esp the remote stretches of the Verde) dozens of times!!  When I think of all the trips I took, and all those ‘never fished’ stretches I must have passed over because I wasn’t a flyfisher……the thought of the missed opportunities tears me up!!!! riverman

It’s still here, sweetie.  You can always come back and have another look. :^) Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496

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All, I’ve got to take a business trip in late March to Phoenix, but then will have 3 days to myself.  Are there fly-fishing opportunities there abouts someone might want to recommend? Cheers, Michael

I recommend Oak Creek, Michael, or the Verde River near Dead Horse Ranch. Here’s a couple of links you might find handy: http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/fis_oc.htm http://www.gorp.com/gorp/publishers/countryman/m_ocs.htm Enjoy your visit! Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496

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All, I’ve got to take a business trip in late March to Phoenix, then will have 3 days to myself. Are there fly-fishing opportunities there abouts someone might want to recommend? Cheers, Michael

You might try searching this newsgroup for past entries and responses.  There should be quite a few suggestions.  You should contact the AZ Fish and Game at: http://www.gf.state.az.us/frames/index.html My personal favorite fishing was the upper Salt River, about Roosevelt Reservoir.  It’s a longer drive (east to Globe, then either north to the lower river or to Show Low to the upper river) and part of the river (above Chrysotile) is on the Apache Indian Reservation (stop at White River for a license).  The extreme upper Black River is on USFS lands and has good fishing for small mouth bass. Good luck. –Scott–

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I’ll go 3.5 hours north to Lee’s Ferry. John

Agreed — that’s The Place to flyfish in AZ, but it’s a bit much for a day trip from Phoenix. If you have absolutely nothing to do for 3 solid days, it would be a worthwhile venture. Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496

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I’ll go 3.5 hours north to Lee’s Ferry. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All, I’ve got to take a business trip in late March to Phoenix, but then will have 3 days to myself.  Are there fly-fishing opportunities there abouts someone might want to recommend? Cheers, Michael

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good god!  at last, the final piece of the roffian puzzle: the scent of a woman! smilies from tucson to tucumcari. your friend in the old north state wayno

Hiya handsome! I missed you too!  Told you fellers I’d be back. Looks like y’all have been having fun while I was gone. Enjoying myself thoroughly catching up. Anyone here ever see the Trinity movies (My Name Is Trinity; Trinity Is Still My Name; and My Name Is Nobody)?  Really cheesy Italian westerns with the best slap-fighting ever recorded on celluloid.  That’s what ROFF reminds me of — I LOVE this place!  Glad to be home.  :^)  Hugs all around. Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496

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!  When I think of all the trips I took, and all those ‘never fished’ stretches I must have passed over because I wasn’t a flyfisher……the thought of the missed opportunities tears me up!!!! riverman It’s still here, sweetie.  You can always come back and have another look. :^) Sandy

        good god!  at last, the final piece of the roffian puzzle: the scent of a woman!         smilies from tucson to tucumcari. your friend in the old north state wayno

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All, I’ve got to take a business trip in late March to Phoenix, but then will have 3 days to myself.  Are there fly-fishing opportunities there abouts someone might want to recommend? Cheers, Michael

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Who manufactures Cabela’s flyfishing rods and reels? — Jeff Hancock

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Mama san, Papa san and baby san….. ……and whoever else the boss can drag into his office after everyone else leaves…..kinda like Niki shoes. john

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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations?   I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible. Thanks, Steve

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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations? I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible.

Any of the lakes around Mt. Bachelor such as Hosmer Lake, Elk Lake, Todd Lake and many others should be good for trout.  Great float tubing.  You also have the opportunity to fish the Deschutes River, a great spot, especially with a guide if you’re a first timer there..  For more info you might try Sunriver Fly Shop (541)593-8814 or Sunriver Guides and Outfitters (541)593-8247 both located in Sunriver, Oregon. Greg

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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations?   I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible. Thanks, Steve

I stayed at Crystalwood Lodge in the Klamath basin about 4 years ago and had a great time.Their guides usually take you to the local rivers such as the Williamson or the Wood. I had a good success and I’m nowhere near an expert, but it is not a budget trip:). If "Marlin" is still guideing try to get him, Lloyd Heilbrunn

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Steve — If you want to fish for steelhead on the Deschutes in mid-August you will have be in north-central Oregon, about 90 miles from Bend and about 250 miles from Klamath Falls.  You will probably need a guide who fishes the mouth of the Descutes, although some fish will probably be as far south as Maupin by mid-August. Rob

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TOSHIBA is the DEVIL!!! COMPAQ is quickly heading the same direction! Ever since they launched the AERO line I’ve wanted to puke everytime someone made me work on one! (did I get my point across?) I’d sooner buy a clone than a nameless clone off the sidewalk than a Toshiba! Ugh! — Michael Era

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If you can tell me where to get them i will do it.  Thanx Andrew         What should i put on my website.  I have an outdoor Oriented site and was         wondering what you guys like in a website. Please let me know.         Andrew Fulton     Andrew,     Being the presumptious sob that I can be, I’ll speak for the group….     nude flyfishing women     that should about cover it…..     –Wataugan Walt

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

G’day Mat, You should have a go at Lithgow (Lyell dam), Wallerawang (Lake Wallace), Mudgee (Windamere dam) or best of all Oberon (Oberon dam). These are all reasonably close to Sydney out via the Great Western Hwy. If fishing in lakes is not your style, I believe that there is some good ffishing in the Coxs & Turon Rivers (as well as the many other creeks and rivers in the area) – but I haven’t tried these, yet. Phil

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : a good definition of the term bifluorescence : I’m not an entomologist, but I do make my living observing : fluorescence.  I : don’t believe I’ve ever heard the term… is it specific to insects? : I would be interested in knowing about fish perception … : Are trout more sensitive to UV, vis or IR radiation? : What exactly, do fish "see?" : As one might guess based on the fact that Rick hasn’t heard of this, it is : indeed a highly obscure term.  I ran it by a few of my colleagues who use : fluorescent tags in their work and some others who work on vision. : Several of : us could loosely be referred to as entomologists.  None were familiar : with it, : although we did manage to dig up a few recent references that use the : adjective : bifluorescent, in each case referring to things (not insects or any other : kind : of fish food) that fluoresce at two different wavelengths.  This may not be : very satisfying, but it does make sense. Could be, but everything fluoresces at multiple wavelengths except the very expensive lasers or the much less expensive diode lasers.  I thinbk you refer to organism or compounds that fluoresce with two discernible *peak* intensities.  In any case, another thread indicates the original poster meant "biofluorescence".  But lets ignore that for now and talk about the rest of your post. : Of perhaps more significance is the skepticism with which the vision types : greeted the possibility that fluorescence could be significant with : regard to : surface feeding.  There’s so much ambient light that fluorescence would : not be : likely to be important.  In contrast, at depths where light becomes more : monochromatic, fluorescence could indeed become significant. Excellent point, and rephrased, it is simialr to the fact that stars in the sky cannot be seen at night even though they are there.  Only when ambient light levels drop at night can the stars be seen against the background.  A fish looking up at the sky will see high amounts of ambient UV. I know that water begins to absorb light strongly near 200 nanometers. The UV is usually defined as wavelengths shorter than 400 nanometers or so.  This leaves a window from approximately 220 nm – 400 nm of UV open for transmission through water. : As for what fish see, there was a decent article in Fly Fisherman (?) a few : years back on how trout see.  As I recall, it dealt mostly with the : windows of : visibility and visual acuity, but there was also some stuff about color : vision. :  I don’t have the info on spectral sensitivity for trout specifically, : but many : fish are known to be sensitive to UV. Specifics are always good. : As an aside, for what it’s worth, I’ve never paid much attention to the : information on trout spectral sensitivities.  While I know that there are : many : who swear by exacting attention to colors, it’s been my experience that color : isn’t all that important.  I’m not quite ready for the "Adams for everything" : approach (although I know it works well for some, at least), but light, : medium : and dark has usually worked just fine. I would say that specific colors, like green or orange, will work well on specific days.  BTW, I would guess that most of the synthetic materials fluoresce in around 250 nm. :  My experience, which may not be : typical, has likely been colored by my propensity for fishing small : dries, but : I had a little chuckle when a colleague who works on vision suggested : that most : likely all the fish usually see is a silhouette. Especially the ones down deep.  Scattering would be a real hindrance to correct color perception for fish that are deep.  (Except of course on Idaho streams, where the water is so clear one must get out of the rivers to pee in their waders.) : Bummer, Rick.  Maybe it would look better under UV. Bring out the black lights… it’s time to party! — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

Who said that?

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: : a good definition of the term bifluorescence : I’m not an entomologist, but I do make my living observing : fluorescence.  I : don’t believe I’ve ever heard the term… is it specific to insects? : I would be interested in knowing about fish perception … : Are trout more sensitive to UV, vis or IR radiation? : What exactly, do fish "see?" : As one might guess based on the fact that Rick hasn’t heard of this, it is : indeed a highly obscure term.  I ran it by a few of my colleagues who use : fluorescent tags in their work and some others who work on vision.   : Several of : us could loosely be referred to as entomologists.  None were familiar : with it, : although we did manage to dig up a few recent references that use the : adjective : bifluorescent, in each case referring to things (not insects or any other : kind : of fish food) that fluoresce at two different wavelengths.  This may not be : very satisfying, but it does make sense. Could be, but everything fluoresces at multiple wavelengths except the very expensive lasers or the much less expensive diode lasers.  I thinbk you refer to organism or compounds that fluoresce with two discernible *peak* intensities.  In any case, another thread indicates the original poster meant "biofluorescence".  But lets ignore that for now and talk about the rest of your post.   : Of perhaps more significance is the skepticism with which the vision types : greeted the possibility that fluorescence could be significant with : regard to : surface feeding.  There’s so much ambient light that fluorescence would : not be : likely to be important.  In contrast, at depths where light becomes more : monochromatic, fluorescence could indeed become significant. Excellent point, and rephrased, it is simialr to the fact that stars in the sky cannot be seen at night even though they are there.  Only when ambient light levels drop at night can the stars be seen against the background.  A fish looking up at the sky will see high amounts of ambient UV. I know that water begins to absorb light strongly near 200 nanometers. The UV is usually defined as wavelengths shorter than 400 nanometers or so.  This leaves a window from approximately 220 nm – 400 nm of UV open for transmission through water. : As for what fish see, there was a decent article in Fly Fisherman (?) a few : years back on how trout see.  As I recall, it dealt mostly with the : windows of : visibility and visual acuity, but there was also some stuff about color : vision. :  I don’t have the info on spectral sensitivity for trout specifically, : but many : fish are known to be sensitive to UV. Specifics are always good. : As an aside, for what it’s worth, I’ve never paid much attention to the : information on trout spectral sensitivities.  While I know that there are : many : who swear by exacting attention to colors, it’s been my experience that color : isn’t all that important.  I’m not quite ready for the "Adams for everything" : approach (although I know it works well for some, at least), but light, : medium : and dark has usually worked just fine.   I would say that specific colors, like green or orange, will work well on specific days.  BTW, I would guess that most of the synthetic materials fluoresce in around 250 nm. :  My experience, which may not be : typical, has likely been colored by my propensity for fishing small : dries, but : I had a little chuckle when a colleague who works on vision suggested : that most : likely all the fish usually see is a silhouette. Especially the ones down deep.  Scattering would be a real hindrance to correct color perception for fish that are deep.  (Except of course on Idaho streams, where the water is so clear one must get out of the rivers to pee in their waders.) : Bummer, Rick.  Maybe it would look better under UV. Bring out the black lights… it’s time to party! — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: a good definition of the term bifluorescence I’m not an entomologist, but I do make my living observing fluorescence.  I

don’t believe I’ve ever heard the term… is it specific to insects? I would be interested in knowing about fish perception … Are trout more sensitive to UV, vis or IR radiation? What exactly, do fish "see?"

As one might guess based on the fact that Rick hasn’t heard of this, it is indeed a highly obscure term.  I ran it by a few of my colleagues who use fluorescent tags in their work and some others who work on vision.   Several of us could loosely be referred to as entomologists.  None were familiar with it, although we did manage to dig up a few recent references that use the adjective bifluorescent, in each case referring to things (not insects or any other kind of fish food) that fluoresce at two different wavelengths.  This may not be very satisfying, but it does make sense. Of perhaps more significance is the skepticism with which the vision types greeted the possibility that fluorescence could be significant with regard to surface feeding.  There’s so much ambient light that fluorescence would not be likely to be important.  In contrast, at depths where light becomes more monochromatic, fluorescence could indeed become significant. As for what fish see, there was a decent article in Fly Fisherman (?) a few years back on how trout see.  As I recall, it dealt mostly with the windows of visibility and visual acuity, but there was also some stuff about color vision.  I don’t have the info on spectral sensitivity for trout specifically, but many fish are known to be sensitive to UV. As an aside, for what it’s worth, I’ve never paid much attention to the information on trout spectral sensitivities.  While I know that there are many who swear by exacting attention to colors, it’s been my experience that color isn’t all that important.  I’m not quite ready for the "Adams for everything" approach (although I know it works well for some, at least), but light, medium and dark has usually worked just fine.  My experience, which may not be typical, has likely been colored by my propensity for fishing small dries, but I had a little chuckle when a colleague who works on vision suggested that most likely all the fish usually see is a silhouette. I just painted my living room and it turned out pink!!

Bummer, Rick.  Maybe it would look better under UV. Bill S.

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Could someone please give me the subscription address (or phone #) to fly fisherman magazine? Also any other fly fishing publications that can be recommended would be appreciated. And as a final request, I would like the address or phone for some good mail order fly fishing companies.  Thanks a lot in advance, Brian D. Hadley            

Fly Fisherman PO Box 3474 Mount Morris Il 61054-9937 If you live in California a fairly recent publication that is very good is the California Fly Fisher. The subscription address is: California Fly Fisher PO Box 40429 San Francisco, Ca 94140 John

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 Could someone please give me the subscription address (or phone #) to fly fisherman magazine? Also any other fly fishing publications that can  be recommended would be appreciated. And as a final request, I would like  the address or phone for some good mail order fly fishing companies.   Thanks a lot in advance, Brian D. Hadley            

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