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We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands

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Try HARS at: http://www.notebookpub.com/hars/hars1.html They have two Neptunes, one flying. Cheers John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands

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We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands

good heavens is that all that stops you. stop looking at them as PBY blisters and look at them as sorta RV4 canopies. the manufacturing process is just perspex blowing. lots of homebuilders around that can help you with that. Stealth Pilot Australia.

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JV, Don’t speak too soon!! I believe the second Neppy is due to fly in to Albion Park (YWOL) very soon and hopefully the C-47 won’t be too much longer either!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try HARS at: http://www.notebookpub.com/hars/hars1.html They have two Neptunes, one flying. Cheers John We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands

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Good to hear! Cheers John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – JV, Don’t speak too soon!! I believe the second Neppy is due to fly in to Albion Park (YWOL) very soon and hopefully the C-47 won’t be too much longer either!! Try HARS at: http://www.notebookpub.com/hars/hars1.html They have two Neptunes, one flying. Cheers John We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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bloody certification systems eh. the death of common sense aviation. I think this was the sort of thing someone else had in mind a few weeks ago when he asked where to find the fun. Cheers.

the secret is in the way you approach it. if you tie the boat and trailer on the back of the car and go fishing. typically you do it sensibly and within the law. the fact that you are operating in     laws on vehicle licensing     laws on driving on the road     laws on boatramps     laws on marine safety     laws on fishing limitations     laws on parking just never enters your mind. you operate in accordance with the intent of those laws and rarely worry about the specifics of the statutes. when I’m flying I never ever think of CASA. most of the requirements are just sensible practise enshrined in law. fly sensibly and it is automatically covered. why treat flying any differently than fly fishing? Stealth Pilot.

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bloody certification systems eh. the death of common sense aviation.

I think this was the sort of thing someone else had in mind a few weeks ago when he asked where to find the fun. Cheers.

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Our JAR-145 company won’t accept this type, thanks for the idea. Peter

eh? what I was getting at was that it should be possible to just blow new ones which were clones of the original. surely they accept locally manufactured spares of identical spec to the originals? bloody certification systems eh. the death of common sense aviation. I wish you the best in wading through it. Stealth Pilot

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Our JAR-145 company won’t accept this type, thanks for the idea. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We, Stichting Neptune Association, want to have a pair of blisters. Complete or large parts of it, whatever al will do. Even parts will do. We are able to remake the missing ones. So please help us, look in your backyard for parts. Mail us at the website http://www.neptune-association.nl. We don’t held it for possible that we can’t fly our grand old lady without this. With Kind regards, Peter Boel The Netherlands good heavens is that all that stops you. stop looking at them as PBY blisters and look at them as sorta RV4 canopies. the manufacturing process is just perspex blowing. lots of homebuilders around that can help you with that. Stealth Pilot Australia.

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Took my son Tom, up NW of Jackman, Me. for a couple of nights of camping and fishing. We drove up Friday, the weather threatening some rain so I nipped into WallyWorld and got him a cheapie rainsuit, hopefully guaranteeing that it wouldn’t rain. On the way in we went down to the boat launch on Holeb pond, one of two spots where people put in for the "bow trip". The campsite was mobbed, a full troop of scouts from Connecticut were preparing to launch the bow trip the next day and there was a full load of other campers. We then drove up to Turner pond, a small pond with special regs (arts only, 2 fish with a slot limit) and found that campsite deserted so we made camp. After a tasty steak we took the canoe out on the pond and to my surprise there were some hex’s hatching so I rigged up and moved down the left shore where I spotted some fish rising. I managed to miss a half dozen hits and the hatch died off so we made for the tent. The next morning after breakfast we went out and I hit the sinking line hard, fishing streamers and missed a couple of feeble hits. After lunch I let Tom take the canoe out by himself, a first for him, and he went out to a big rock and managed to get on the rock without dumping himself in the pond. He found a plaque that was somewhat sobering, commerating two fishermen who drowned in 1976 while fishing their "favorite pond". Later in the day a local came by and shared what he knew about it, the two gentlemen, one in his 70’s and one in his 50’s, a father and son, got caught on the pond in a storm and their canoe capsized, they didn’t make it to shore. Tom wanted to try flyfishing so I spent an hour or so with him in the road working on his cast. After dinner we went back out and he managed a couple of brookies, one about 6" and one about 10" on the dry fly. He was very happy. I managed one about 12" and again the hatch died off so we made to bed. This morning the wind was high, it was drizzling and nasty hot and humid, the mosquitoes were well fed, so we decided to cut the trip short by a day and come home. He was ready and to be fair so was I. Turner pond, for the record, is a pretty little pond about 18 miles out of Jackman. The main concentration of fish seemed to be on the north shore, where I could hear a fast running brook, but never managed to see where it was dumping into the pond. I suspect the fish population isn’t what it should be, or it was just a poor weekend for fishing as there were not that many fish showing, despite the hex hatch. I did manage to foul hook a 4" rainbow smelt on my #6 dry fly, a new accomplishment in setting records for the smallest fish on a trip The kick for me in this trip was Tom’s first trout/fish on a flyrod.  Tom had tried flyfishing once before but refused to practice casting, so the results were predictable, he got skunked and discouraged. The kick for Tom this time was outfishing his dad, and on a fly rod to boot ( he was so smug). In another 10-15 years I expect he’ll be in here sharing his (hopefully improved) puns and sharply developing sense of humor. Another flyfisherman has been introduced to the ranks. Flyfish — dave’s homepage madness http://www.ctel.net/~brooktrout flyfishing in Maine and more

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Great report, Dave.  I’ve been thinking about making an overnighter up that direction sometime in the next week or so.  May even stop by the Rapid.  How are water levels in the rivers?  Water temps? Dave L.

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appreciated.  Indian Joe

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appreciated. Indian Joe

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The Kennebec north of Madison is running very low, except the streach near the forks where the levels are dictated by the rafting companies. I stopped in a small fly shop near Solon on the way back and he said that the river is fishing well, but the hatches are poor, nymphs seem to be the ticket. He also said the water temp is running 65-68 in the Kennebec. I’m told the kennebec in Waterville is so low that you have to carry your boat across the sand bar, I’ve never seen it that low. Also Waterville is "off" as far as fishing, the trout must be sulking and the stripers went back down the river. Fly

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great report, Dave.  I’ve been thinking about making an overnighter up that direction sometime in the next week or so.  May even stop by the Rapid. How are water levels in the rivers?  Water temps? Dave L.

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I don’t know what the hell is going on with everyone in here! Bloody fights at every turn… long back and forth drivel over the silliest little things.   For crying out loud… be adult.  If you don’t like what someone says… ignore it… you have the ability to alter your filters so you don’t even have to read that persons postings… You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know what the hell is going on with everyone in here! Bloody fights at every turn… long back and forth drivel over the silliest little things. For crying out loud… be adult.  If you don’t like what someone says… ignore it… you have the ability to alter your filters so you don’t even have to read that persons postings… You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath

You spoilin’ fer a fight, lady?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a hackle? Do I? Excuse me while I look this up. I had to look it up myself. My favorite definition was "a tuft of cock feathers trimming an artificial fishing fly". I sure hope I don’t have one of *those*, especially in an "up" condition! And watch out for that hook! It would certainly make "dick-waving" more interesting for the spectators! Oh. So *that’s* where it goes. I suppose the ‘cock feathers’ should have been a give-away, but I was still thinking farmyard fowl. Maybe I can use my comb to keep it in trim. The tuft. You have feathers? <G

Um, doesn’t everybody? <VBG Quack! pavanne — For info about this service, see http://www.twwells.com/anon/ or e-mail:

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a hackle? Do I? Excuse me while I look this up. I had to look it up myself. My favorite definition was "a tuft of cock feathers trimming an artificial fishing fly". I sure hope I don’t have one of *those*, especially in an "up" condition! And watch out for that hook! It would certainly make "dick-waving" more interesting for the spectators! Oh. So *that’s* where it goes. I suppose the ‘cock feathers’ should have been a give-away, but I was still thinking farmyard fowl. Maybe I can use my comb to keep it in trim. The tuft. You have feathers? <G

Three paragraphs higher than you’re thinking. —          The opinions given above may be mine. They might also            just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

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I have a hackle? Do I? Excuse me while I look this up. I had to look it up myself. My favorite definition was "a tuft of cock feathers trimming an artificial fishing fly". I sure hope I don’t have one of *those*, especially in an "up" condition! And watch out for that hook! It would certainly make "dick-waving" more interesting for the spectators!

Oh. So *that’s* where it goes. I suppose the ‘cock feathers’ should have been a give-away, but I was still thinking farmyard fowl. Maybe I can use my comb to keep it in trim. The tuft. —          The opinions given above may be mine. They might also            just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

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I don’t know what the hell is going on with everyone in here! Everyone? mom! kiwigirl is staring at me again!

hahahahahahahaha. whew. you better watch it or you’re dead at recess.   jean

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This, my dear, is ASD.  Where people with varying degrees of mental illness from across the globe cross paths in a matter unprecedented in history.  Where images and projections are given free rein, fed by the mystery of a glowing screen.  Where reality, encountered, rarely satisfies.  Where hearts are broken, behavior repeats itself, needs are laid bare, and a few of us die.  And once in a while, people fall in love, or don’t need to be here anymore.

<gasp Chimera, Where did you get this? i like it. It’s so accurate and… pretty.

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To me it boils down to the difference between being assertive and being aggressive.

Yes!! {jumping up and down] Never, ever, goggle ever (as Maria would say) can get this right. Rosena

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I am kinda curious as to why so many people’s hackles are up and feel the need to fight over a phrase, or a tone in a reply or post.

I have a hackle? Do I? Excuse me while I look this up. <Later Why would anyone think that I had combs for flax or hemp? Odd that. I’d thought it would be something completely different. You know, personal. —          The opinions given above may be mine. They might also            just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

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or else it ends up with some one telling you they think you are fake like glen told me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *shrug*  Hey… if this fighting is causing positive changes, helping vent some steam etc… it’s all good!  But from where I’m reading, it’s not, it’s destructive, and people are (A) getting hurt, or (B) getting flamed to hell for all that positive venting. To me it boils down to the difference between being assertive and being aggressive. It’s one thing to assert yourself when there’s a conflict with another person (i.e., stand your ground); it’s entirely another thing to aggress against someone else in a conflict (i.e., go out of your way to hurt that person, as is the case with flames). Trouble is, the boundary between assertiveness and aggression is kinda fuzzy, and depends at least in part on how the various individuals involved interpret a series of exchanges. What I might intend as simply "standing my ground" may be interpreted by the other person as a personal attack, and vice versa. On a related note, I tend to think that anger in and of itself is not destructive. The trick is learning how to express it in a way that does not harm the folks one is angry at. If this group offers some opportunities for learning how to deal with angry emotions in a less destructive manner, then it serves as a force for positive change. Sometimes that happens here, sometimes it doesn’t. And so it goes. Welcome to ASD. James p/e "Vision is both revelation and revolution. It is the call AND the response." — James Benjamin (2000) http://www.geocities.com/the_bokononist/

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*shrug*  Hey… if this fighting is causing positive changes, helping vent some steam etc… it’s all good!  But from where I’m reading, it’s not, it’s destructive, and people are (A) getting hurt, or (B) getting flamed to hell for all that positive venting.

To me it boils down to the difference between being assertive and being aggressive. It’s one thing to assert yourself when there’s a conflict with another person (i.e., stand your ground); it’s entirely another thing to aggress against someone else in a conflict (i.e., go out of your way to hurt that person, as is the case with flames). Trouble is, the boundary between assertiveness and aggression is kinda fuzzy, and depends at least in part on how the various individuals involved interpret a series of exchanges. What I might intend as simply "standing my ground" may be interpreted by the other person as a personal attack, and vice versa. On a related note, I tend to think that anger in and of itself is not destructive. The trick is learning how to express it in a way that does not harm the folks one is angry at. If this group offers some opportunities for learning how to deal with angry emotions in a less destructive manner, then it serves as a force for positive change. Sometimes that happens here, sometimes it doesn’t. And so it goes. Welcome to ASD. James p/e "Vision is both revelation and revolution. It is the call AND the response." — James Benjamin (2000) http://www.geocities.com/the_bokononist/

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Hey Kath, Why not just ignore and filter out the fights? I think fighting is healthy. It brings our our truest emotions to the forefront and always us to sit afterwards and learn so much more about ourselves. Fighting is a normal part of lives, can’t get around it. Sometimes it’s a fun way to release some of that pressure building up inside of us that just needs to get out. Mary Beth

I know that…  I dunno…. guess two reasons I even bothered to post about this… 1 – I’m concerned.    In my nice little world of fairies and laughter… I like to see people getting along, being supportive etc and I don’t know what’s causing the problems, the hostility etc.   2 – I hate to see the wrong people get dragged into fights simply by replying the wrong way or to the wrong post, and yes, selfishly, I am worried that I’ll get flamed to hell and back. *shrug*  Hey… if this fighting is causing positive changes, helping vent some steam etc… it’s all good!  But from where I’m reading, it’s not, it’s destructive, and people are (A) getting hurt, or (B) getting flamed to hell for all that positive venting. I’m not flaming… that’s obvious.  But I am concerned about it.  And if that’s wrong, so be it… some people don’t agree… that’s your right, just as it’s my right to express my concern about it. kath

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it’s just aprt of the asd culture… sometimes people have shitfight. happens in real life, happens here. i do the obvious and just don’t read any of it. it does help, y’know. and, for what it’s worth, i’m quite happy being a kid. stuffed if i’m going to act like an adult just to keep everyone happy! — *** DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND; THE FAULT IS WITH REALITY! Adam came first. But then, men always do. God created men because a vibrator couldn’t mow the lawn so you can make me cum — that doesn’t make you jesus icq #20581291

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know what the hell is going on with everyone in here! Bloody fights at every turn… long back and forth drivel over the silliest little things. For crying out loud… be adult.  If you don’t like what someone says… ignore it… you have the ability to alter your filters so you don’t even have to read that persons postings… You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath

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AND I forgot to use my own doggone email addy instead of the one the sharer of this computer uses. I’M A YUTZ!!!

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You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath You spoilin’ fer a fight, lady? No i’m not.  And I’m not hassling people for posting their feelings.

Oops…fergot to turn on the flashing neon IRONY sign when I posted that.  Mea culpa.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath You spoilin’ fer a fight, lady? No i’m not.  And I’m not hassling people for posting their feelings. I am kinda curious as to why so many people’s hackles are up and feel the need to fight over a phrase, or a tone in a reply or post. This is a forum for discussion, venting etc… I get that… I just don’t know what’s changed in the atmosphere that so many people are taking things personally and fighting about things. *sigh*  maybe I just don’t get it? Sorry for bothering… kath

yah, there does seem to be quite a bit of squabbling lately. one thing about this place though, is that there is so much going on that, much of the time, it isn’t that hard to decide, "i’m not reading that type of post" — no matter whether your "that type of post" is cat posts or polls or flames — and still have plenty of other posts to read. one trick which has served me well, when i have become tired of reading the fighting, is to look for the threads which look like entwined snakes where a few people are on semi-manic replying binges and just delete those unread. anyway, hope you are doing ok. ferret, postmail

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know what the hell is going on with everyone in here! Bloody fights at every turn… long back and forth drivel over the silliest little things.   For crying out loud… be adult.  If you don’t like what someone says… ignore it… you have the ability to alter your filters so you don’t even have to read that persons postings… You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath

Hey Kath, Why not just ignore and filter out the fights? I think fighting is healthy. It brings our our truest emotions to the forefront and always us to sit afterwards and learn so much more about ourselves. Fighting is a normal part of lives, can’t get around it. Sometimes it’s a fun way to release some of that pressure building up inside of us that just needs to get out. Mary Beth

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You don’t always have to have the last word you know…. And nobody really cares who started it. Kath You spoilin’ fer a fight, lady?

No i’m not.  And I’m not hassling people for posting their feelings. I am kinda curious as to why so many people’s hackles are up and feel the need to fight over a phrase, or a tone in a reply or post. This is a forum for discussion, venting etc… I get that… I just don’t know what’s changed in the atmosphere that so many people are taking things personally and fighting about things. *sigh*  maybe I just don’t get it? Sorry for bothering… kath

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For great Fly Fishing in Wyoming, contact Paul at Jack Creek Outfitters.

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

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The folks in WY, in general, are about the same as people anywhere.  If anything, most go out of their way to be open and friendly.  There are psychopaths, misfits and criminals in WY just as there are in NY, LA, Iowa, Japan and elsewhere in the world.  Go and enjoy yourself.  You might consider NOT going into a cowboy bar, standing up on a stool and informing the patrons that Wyoming cowboys  are weenies. J. Rice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

I’m sad to report that it is not safe at all. Neither is Colorado. I’d go to Montana or Idaho if I were you. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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It depends on where you have Colorado plates on your car. If you come and rent a car don’t get it in Denver with Colorado plates. I get yeld at and get "flipped off" by passing Wyoming folks on my way to fishing in the great windy state. Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming? Own

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one,

I live in Wyoming; few people here condone the terrible fate of Matt Shepard. There are many rednecks, but the vast majority aren’t violent. or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?

Once again, this is (as far as I can see) an isolated event. People here for the most part don’t hate minorities, or want to do vilence to any group, but quite a few have plenty of bias based on sexual preference. How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

In my opinion, you’ll be very safe. The criminals who murdered Matt were not representatives of the state. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters.

Thin skinned?? Hey, I don’t mind you greenies fishing in my home water, so long as you don’t mind the caltrops. Just kidding, friend. Fish here all you like- I’ll welcome you anytime. But I won’t share my honey holes with you. You’ll have to earn them the same way I did- by working for them. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

BTW, feel free to e-mail me if you need more info as to where to fish, stay, etc. Frank Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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That’s fair. Good spots are to be guarded from slash and burn fishermen and those who can’t keep a secret. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters. Thin skinned?? Hey, I don’t mind you greenies fishing in my home water, so long as you don’t mind the caltrops. Just kidding, friend. Fish here all you like- I’ll welcome you anytime. But I won’t share my honey holes with you. You’ll have to earn them the same way I did- by working for them. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties, 1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights. 1997 Rokon Trail Breaker 1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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I’m learning how to flycast.  When I false cast I get a lot of circling loops in my leader. Is this just another form of tailing loops? What are the remedies? Thanks, Randy Kadish

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   I believe those knots are refered to as wind knots. They come from your backcast. you shouldn’t hear a crack the whip sound. I try to stop and wait for a little bit on the backcast.I guess it’s a matter of timing. I hope this helps.                                                                     jpo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m learning how to flycast.  When I false cast I get a lot of circling loops in my leader. Is this just another form of tailing loops? What are the remedies? Thanks, Randy Kadish

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I’m learning how to flycast.  When I false cast I get a lot of circling loops in my leader. Is this just another form of tailing loops? What are the remedies?

1.  Make the pickup strong and forceful.  This requires: 1b  Control of the line with the left hand.  It should not     flop up and down in the guides. 1c  Line reasonably straight, from fly to rod butt, before     pickup.  This is easiest on running water. 2.  All false casts, forward and back, should have the same amount of force from the hand and into the rod tip. Don’t add pressure on the forward cast.  (You don’t need it and it is likely to hurry the timing.) 3.  To keep the line aerialized as high as possible, stop the power stroke at the vertical.  (This avoids pulling the line lower in the sky.  Gravity is already there for free. 4.  To get the timing right, turn your head and watch the line as it unrolls high behind you.  The forward stroke should begin just as the line is straight and level, behind the rod tip.  Because both muscles and rod lag just a fraction, your brain should initiate the forward stroke when you see the aerialized line is straight and the leader beginning to unroll. 5.  Decide beforehand whether you are going to make one or two false casts.  You can add a third if needed (but beware of hurrying, which will spoil your rhythmic timing.)  No one with a modern rod needs more than three casts, and the more false casts you make the likelier that you will lose tempo. 6.  When learning to cast, rest often, say for a minute after every five or at most 10 casts.  Both muscles and brain need to be unfatigued to co-ordinate well (and you find fish by looking, at least in some waters.)   The aim is to get muscles and brain so adapted that you can put your fly where you want without even thinking of the cast.  This is done by reinforcing planned (conscious) good casts, and it takes scores of repetitions of good casts.  Every thoughtless bad cast interferes with this, i.e. cancels out more than one good cast. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I’m learning how to flycast.  When I false cast I get a lot of circling loops in my leader. Is this just another form of tailing loops? What are the remedies? Thanks, Randy Kadish

ear as pick the line up.  The fly line goes shooting back and the ONLY WAY you can make an OPEN LOOP is that you need to drive your hand, the fist full of fly rod cork or the handle (?) is to drive that hand forward of your ear before you start to bring the loaded rod over driving the fly line to its target. Again:  1)  On the backcast always make sure your rod hand is behind your ear         2)  On the cast, always make sure your rod hand is forward of your ear. I suppose I could suggest something else for you to practice.   By using a section of ceiling in a large room, take a fly rod tip and string a tapered leader through it.  Practice casting with the TIP moving along and just below the ceiling as horizontal as possible.  Of course, it will  help if you tie a little piece of yarn on the tippet to help visually.   What this will do is this.  It should make you realize how much it takes to move the hand forward and back behind the ear in order to do what?         1)  To quickly remove the SLACK in the line before you turn the wrist over back and forth.         2)  Helps you define how much energy it takes to make an open loop.         3)  Helps define WHEN you should turn the wrist over after you slide the rod tip along the ceiling back and forth.         4)  Visually makes you realize timing. When you go back outside with the real thing, start watching your back casts also.  If you have a poor backcast you cannot make a purse out of a sows ear.  You cannot DROP the back cast.  This is why casting along a ceiling is so dramatically helpful.  If you can’t keep a line flowing along a ceiling you can’t do it outside.   If you don’t want to use a leader, use an eight foot length of thick yarn.  Two inches from the end tie one overhand knot where the fly should be.  This is an even better training aid.  You can rig up a short spinning rod for this if you want but a fly rod tip also works. Hope this helps.  I guarantee anyone, you will soon enough stop those trailing loops that put overhand knots into your tippets. Mr. G.

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George,    You would do better if you stuck to Gink and left the "Sauce" alone. You are going to have this guy twisted up like a pretzel. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ear as pick the line up.  The fly line goes shooting back and the ONLY WAY you can make an OPEN LOOP is that you need to drive your hand, the fist full of fly rod cork or the handle (?) is to drive that hand forward of your ear before you start to bring the loaded rod over driving the fly line to its target. Again:  1)  On the backcast always make sure your rod hand is behind your ear    2)  On the cast, always make sure your rod hand is forward of your ear. I suppose I could suggest something else for you to practice.   By using a section of ceiling in a large room, take a fly rod tip and string a tapered leader through it.  Practice casting with the TIP moving along and just below the ceiling as horizontal as possible.  Of course, it will  help if you tie a little piece of yarn on the tippet to help visually.   What this will do is this.  It should make you realize how much it takes to move the hand forward and back behind the ear in order to do what?    1)  To quickly remove the SLACK in the line before you turn the wrist over back and forth.    2)  Helps you define how much energy it takes to make an open loop.    3)  Helps define WHEN you should turn the wrist over after you slide the rod tip along the ceiling back and forth.    4)  Visually makes you realize timing. When you go back outside with the real thing, start watching your back casts also.  If you have a poor backcast you cannot make a purse out of a sows ear.  You cannot DROP the back cast.  This is why casting along a ceiling is so dramatically helpful.  If you can’t keep a line flowing along a ceiling you can’t do it outside.   If you don’t want to use a leader, use an eight foot length of thick yarn.  Two inches from the end tie one overhand knot where the fly should be.  This is an even better training aid.  You can rig up a short spinning rod for this if you want but a fly rod tip also works. Hope this helps.  I guarantee anyone, you will soon enough stop those trailing loops that put overhand knots into your tippets. Mr. G.

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There is a new product out on the market which allows spinning and spincast anglers to attach a length of fly line to mono and fly fish…has any one tried this product or done this themselves?  Any advice on how to fish doing this? — Pierre                     There can be only one!!!!                             |    

There goes the neighbourhood!   <g Peter

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There goes the neighbourhood!   <g Peter

Uh huh.  I just hope it’s not legal to use food stamps to buy them. Bob

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Have you ever considered the possibility of using a fly rod to cast flys?

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uneloquently put it: Uh huh.  I just hope it’s not legal to use food stamps to buy them. Bob Sorry buddy, I don’t usually flame people but that was a total dick response, even if you were just kidding.  Get a life. Kristina Go UT Lady Vols!!!

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uneloquently put it: Uh huh.  I just hope it’s not legal to use food stamps to buy them. Bob Sorry buddy, I don’t usually flame people but that was a total dick response, even if you were just kidding.  Get a life. Kristina

So what do you mean… that I offended you, and that’s wrong, so you wrote an offensive message to me, and that’s right?  What interesting "standards" you have. Bob Scott

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So what do you mean… that I offended you, and that’s wrong, so you wrote an offensive message to me, and that’s right?  What interesting "standards" you have. Bob Scott

Yes he’s right. Balance has now been restored you dick.

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There is a new product out on the market which allows spinning and spincast anglers to attach a length of fly line to mono and fly fish…has any one tried this product or done this themselves?  Any advice on how to fish doing this? — Pierre                          There can be only one!!!!                              |    

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I would like some information on how is the Chum salmon fishing in Hoodsport Washington. Do you have any tips. Is there any worth wile fishing nearby? I will be flyfishing on Oct. 28 & 29 . We may use our float tubes.

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Yes they are running now.  If you do any good please tell.  Friends say green corkies + yarn work on them, and you can use your tube near the hatchery.  Cheers Paul.

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I would like some information on how is the Chum salmon fishing in Hoodsport Washington. Do you have any tips. Is there any worth wile fishing nearby? I will be flyfishing on Oct. 28 & 29 . We may use our float tubes.

 Yes, chartreuse is the way to go.  I usually don’t fish Hoodsport, but I fish the rivers out that way <Satsop, Chehalis, Wynochee, Humptulips, etc. And I’ve been fishing them for last 15 years, and Green has always been the way to go.  Since you’ll be flyfishing, the green corky and chartreuse yarn is outta the question, just use about a long fly hook around size 2 to 4 that is tied with green, with usually a black tail and most use heavier silver bead eyes for attraction and weight.  I tie up some like that, and use the corky/yarn when I’m using my casting rods.  GOOD LUCK and I know the chum are running!

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<snip but it also has these heavy nylon cord loops on both sleaves and on the back.  What are these used for?  I think it’s some kind of fly-fishing kind of thing.<snip

The loops are for little cable retracter thingys to attach to, which in turn attach to yer fly floatant and nippers, etc…. (:-) Jim

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I just bought a really coool Columbia shirt with all kinds of niffty pockets with Velcro closures and stuff, but it also has these heavy nylon cord loops on both sleaves and on the back.  What are these used for?  I think it’s some kind of fly-fishing kind of thing. We don’t know much about fly-fishing down here in Texas.  In fact, our idea of fishing is to set a tub of clean water down by a muddy creek and wack the fish on the head with sticks as they wiggle up on the bank trying to get to the clean water. Thanks, Gary Joe

Gary,         Those are called ’stringers’, and are used to ’string up’ the guy wearing the shirt for being an elitist, yuppie flyfisherperson.  You’ll notice that the location of the loops prevents the wearer of the shirt from reaching the attaching harness to get loose.  Once the elitist, yuppie flyfisherperson (EYF) is strung up the rest is like shooting fish in a tub of clean water!  :^) Charley

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I just bought a really coool Columbia shirt with all kinds of niffty pockets with Velcro closures and stuff, but it also has these heavy nylon cord loops on both sleaves and on the back.  What are these used for?  I think it’s some kind of fly-fishing kind of thing. We don’t know much about fly-fishing down here in Texas.  In fact, our idea of fishing is to set a tub of clean water down by a muddy creek and wack the fish on the head with sticks as they wiggle up on the bank trying to get to the clean water. Thanks, Gary Joe      <Opinions expressed and/or implied are not necessarily those of UPR         "I don’t know why I do stuff…I just do it."  - Bart Simpson

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Yes, me again!  In addition to the firefighter brother, another brother and my father both fly small planes.  So… I’m looking for designs related to flying, pilots, small planes (like Cessna 172), sea/floatplanes (like deHavilland Beaver or Cessna 172 floatplane), etc.  The more detail the better, but I’d like to hear about *any* design you know of.

I saw a bunch of these at the crosstitch store I now frequent. Also firefighter, fishing, etc. designs you requested in your earlier post.  So rest assured they do exist.  Unfortunately I will not be heading out there in the near future. THe designs ranged from extremely simple (it was a Piper or a Cessna plane — just a stick figure really) to more detailed pictures of fishing and a fireman’s prayer. Check out the latest CS&CC and Just XStitch magazines.  I think I saw the firefighter patterns in there. Lucinda

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: Yes, me again!  In addition to the firefighter brother, : another brother and my father both fly small planes.  So… : I’m looking for designs related to flying, pilots, small : planes (like Cessna 172), sea/floatplanes (like deHavilland : Beaver or Cessna 172 floatplane), etc.  The more detail the : better, but I’d like to hear about *any* design you know of. Barbara, Try A&L Designs, 225 Fair View Street, Pottsville, PA 17901-1719 (717)622-6102 EST Jean Spenser showed me her chart of a Cessna last month and I can attest their designs are good.  Since then I’ve spotted their ads in the magazines with other models shown.  I think you will find what you want here.         Deborah

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another brother and my father both fly small planes.  So… I’m looking for designs related to flying, pilots, small planes (like Cessna 172), sea/floatplanes (like deHavilland Beaver or Cessna 172 floatplane), etc.  The more detail the better, but I’d like to hear about *any* design you know of.

fiance. The chart was only 3.75 or so, and I haven’t tried it yet, but since I can’t find anything else, this will do. Hope this helps! Chris Loria P.S. The folks at Stitchers Source are wonderful!! I highly recommend making purchases from them !

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Yes, me again!  In addition to the firefighter brother, another brother and my father both fly small planes.  So… I’m looking for designs related to flying, pilots, small planes (like Cessna 172), sea/floatplanes (like deHavilland Beaver or Cessna 172 floatplane), etc.  The more detail the better, but I’d like to hear about *any* design you know of. Thanks very much!  …and, as I’m saying in each of my "Looking for…" posts, I will summarize to the newsgroup if I get any email responses. Livermore CA  /  Weather always looks worse through a window                                 |   Mark & Barbara Laufersweiler  |          What is a weed?                                 |        not been discovered.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Suggest you try just below the "Glory Hole," where Putah Creek exits Lake Berryessa, (that is to say, below the damn dam), fishing nymphs down and across the broken water, merrily, merrily.  Some years (10?) ago, I was fishing here in the rain on a cold day in midwinter, got skunked, but did see a lure-slinger  walking out with fish the size of my leg.  Wondered why he would kill such a fine trout, ‘less he was skared of it!  But I would be wary of anybody who tells you Putah Creek is a "Trophy Trout Stream."  It’s just the only semblance of a moving-water trout-type flyfishing option close-in to the Bay Area, and for that, I guess we must be grateful. Sorry to disagree but there are lots of folks (none tyros) who would classify Putah Creek a trophy fishery. Its a tailwater stream that holds many fish, many large, few  pushovers. I don’t know if that qualifies as a "trophy" fishery but it ain’t a muddy, put-and-take slough.

Last I heard, Putah was officially classified as a "Trophy Trout Stream" by the state of California.  This qualifies it for special environmental protection, and special fishing regs.  They stock "put and take" rainbows down in the Solano Lake end, and there is a resident population of browns and land locked steelhead living from the head of lake Solano to the dam at lake Berryessa.  I’ve never gotten one of the giants, but I’ve seen several trout over 25" there in the water.         Putah is an interesting creek.  From Berryessa to Solano it is a great peice of water.  Cold water, good oxygenation, nice holes large bouldered bottom providing plenty of pocket water.  Lake Solano is a big evaporation pond.  There is a dam at the lower end of the lake, and during the summer, in dry years, there is no flow from it.  I’ve found the stream below Solano bone dry in some summers.  In a wet year, the creek flows on and eventually spreads out and sinks into the ground in the middle of the Sacramento cosway.  When you drive from Davis to Sac across the cosway, look to your right across the rice fields.  There is a peculiar patch of trees and scrub.  That is the termination point of Putah creek!         It’s been a while since I lived in Cali, but Putah was my training ground.  Don’t badmouth it just because your not competent enough to catch any of the multitude of giant (but extremely selective) trout that live there. Enjoy this gift of nature and preserve it for future generations. . Lenny Bloksberg . .

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writes: Suggest you try just below the "Glory Hole," where Putah Creek exits Lake Berryessa, (that is to say, below the damn dam), fishing nymphs down and across the broken water, merrily, merrily.  Some years (10?) ago, I was fishing here in the rain on a cold day in midwinter, got skunked, but did see a lure-slinger  walking out with fish the size of my leg.  Wondered why he would kill such a fine trout, ‘less he was skared of it!  But I would be wary of anybody who tells you Putah Creek is a "Trophy Trout Stream."  It’s just the only semblance of a moving-water trout-type flyfishing option close-in to the Bay Area, and for that, I guess we must be grateful.

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writes: Suggest you try just below the "Glory Hole," where Putah Creek exits Lake Berryessa, (that is to say, below the damn dam), fishing nymphs down and across the broken water, merrily, merrily.  Some years (10?) ago, I was fishing here in the rain on a cold day in midwinter, got skunked, but did see a lure-slinger  walking out with fish the size of my leg.  Wondered why he would kill such a fine trout, ‘less he was skared of it!  But I would be wary of anybody who tells you Putah Creek is a "Trophy Trout Stream."  It’s just the only semblance of a moving-water trout-type flyfishing option close-in to the Bay Area, and for that, I guess we must be grateful.

Sorry to disagree but there are lots of folks (none tyros) who would classify Putah Creek a trophy fishery. Its a tailwater stream that holds many fish, many large, few  pushovers. I don’t know if that qualifies as a "trophy" fishery but it ain’t a muddy, put-and-take slough.

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I hear Putah creek is a trophy trout stream.  I fished it about 1 month ago with some success on 18-20 prince nymphs.  I saw no fish over 8". Steam side brush made casting near impossible.  There were few pockets from which to cast from.  Wading was difficult due to the changing deapth of water and varying stream flows throughout the length of the creek starting just outside of Winters.  Does anyone know how and where to fish this water?

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