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well if anybody knows the truth it’s you right Bill? right Bill? i mean you are an honest truthful operator right? there’s never been any hint of any other behaviour in your past right? there are no unpaid judgements against you right? no unfavorable court judgements or anything of that nature at all right? just wondering that’s all,i mean person has to be careful who they give their money to don’t they-right?
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Try Baja! - Catch Report April 22, 2000 La Paz/So. Cerralvo Is.
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Waist High
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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim
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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea).
The only waist high waders I have seen have been either breathable or neoprene. — Charlie…
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Jim, I use featherweight stocking foot hip waders, but have never seen any Waist High’s. Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim
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I use a pair from a company called OS systems. I love ‘em, but don’t know where you can get them. Maybe try Henry’s Fork Anglers, a friends nephew used to guide for them and might have gotten em from there ….. Tight Lines, Ed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim
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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders
Red Ball used to make them, (maybe still do),. Try Hook & Hackle. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"
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I Have contacted several fly shops and outfitters and no one has ever seen waist high featherlights, so I guess they don’t exist. I did go to Cabela’s web site and found last years Chest feathers on sale for $24.00. This years catalogue lists them for $49.00 with neoprene socks and improved stitching. Does anyone have the older ones, was there a problem with the feet? $24.00 to me seems like a hell of deal, unless the feet leak, then they ain’t worth 24cents. jim
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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders?
I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois. Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site. Might be a good place to start looking.
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I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure. jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois. Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site. Might be a good place to start looking.
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Damn good idea Wolfgang. I had been thinking about the belt and didn’t really like it, the suspenders is a far far better idea. My wife will look at both options. Having never had featherlights before, you may be right and all I have to do is roll em down. jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure. It should work Jim, but why bother? It’s easy enough to roll down the top of the waders in warmer weather. The roll may look a bit odd but it should tighten the fabric enough around your waist to make a belt unnecessary. And then in colder conditions you still have a full length set of waders. If you do go ahead with your plan I would recommend suspenders rather than the belt for a couple of reasons. If you are concerned about heat, suspenders would leave the top open to provide a bit of circulation unlike a belt which will effectively seal the top and thus hold in heat. I think suspenders are a more positive way to hold the top in place. Belts can slide up and down. Belts also rub against the fabric and will cause more wear. Good luck.
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I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure.
It should work Jim, but why bother? It’s easy enough to roll down the top of the waders in warmer weather. The roll may look a bit odd but it should tighten the fabric enough around your waist to make a belt unnecessary. And then in colder conditions you still have a full length set of waders. If you do go ahead with your plan I would recommend suspenders rather than the belt for a couple of reasons. If you are concerned about heat, suspenders would leave the top open to provide a bit of circulation unlike a belt which will effectively seal the top and thus hold in heat. I think suspenders are a more positive way to hold the top in place. Belts can slide up and down. Belts also rub against the fabric and will cause more wear. Good luck.
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try Cabelas… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois. Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site. Might be a good place to start looking.
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I Have contacted several fly shops and outfitters and no one has ever seen waist high featherlights, so I guess they don’t exist. I did go to Cabela’s web site and found last years Chest feathers on sale for $24.00.
I don’t know what mine are but I did get a cheapy pair of waders from Cabelas a few years ago for that price. It’s nylon fabric with PVC coating on the inside. The seams looked like they were heat pressed together (no stitching). They leaked after the 3rd day of fishing. Mu
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Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim
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Jim: Apart from any other consideration, make it a point to get neoprene foot waders. There is a world of difference using those compared with lightweights that have feet out of the lightweight wader material. If you can do it, spring for the "low end" Orvis or Hodgman breathables – you won’t regret it. Somewhat over $100, as I recall. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim
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Check the Orvis Website. They have the 2mm stretch neoprene waders on sale. DP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim: Apart from any other consideration, make it a point to get neoprene foot waders. There is a world of difference using those compared with lightweights that have feet out of the lightweight wader material. If you can do it, spring for the "low end" Orvis or Hodgman breathables – you won’t regret it. Somewhat over $100, as I recall. Mark Faulkner Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim
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Fly Fishing in New Zealand
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Hi, Anyone out there ever done a walking/hiking trip on the south island. I’m looking to go for 10-14 days of hiking and fishing. Any advice, resources, etc. would be appreciated. Thanks, Rodrigo
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Rodrigo, Don’t know a thing about fishing New Zealand. However, it’s something I will do someday. How about letting us know how it was when you get back? Thanks, Eric
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Anyone out there ever done a walking/hiking trip on the south island. I’m looking to go for 10-14 days of hiking and fishing. Any advice, resources, etc. would be appreciated.
Rodrigo: you want to do one of the State Forest / National Parks, though at any time of the year anyone of them will have weather that is predictable only to the extent that it will be highly changeable. To give you the best chance of settled weather (ie fishable water) I’d suggest the North West (Nelson Province) – a trek along the Karamea and Wangapeka systems would fit your timescale well and, water permitting, provide wonderful fishing opportunities for browns that average over 4lb. Maps etc can be had from the Department of Conservation’s (but no doubt they’ve recently changed their name to something unpronounceable to me) Motueka Field Centre, 406 High Street, PO Box 97, Motueka. Let me know if you’d like more info about this, accommodation possibilities etc. Roger www.wildtrout.org (in dire need of an update)
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Yucatan Bonefish Patterns
Yucatan Bonefish Patterns
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gentle snip.. We figure renting a car and heading south towards Punta Allen would be a good idea (you mentioned a spot fishable without boat at the bridge of Boca Paila).
Check out the bonefish on http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mmhodg I am standing on the Boca Paila bridge. That was my first and only bonefish. If I can catch one anyone can as I am totally clueless. Good luck and don’t forget your snorkle gear it should be great anywhere that time of year. mikeh
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Yes, there are some small flats near the bridge. Much of the rest of the bay is muddy but there are spots you can reach on foot. Legally you need a fishing license from the Boca Paila lodge owner. (he is also a warden, but historically he has ignored non-guided fishermen with good manners. He has been known to call the marines to arrest fishermen w/o permits who cut off his guides.) I caught my first and only permit by the bridge. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gentle snip.. We figure renting a car and heading south towards Punta Allen would be a good idea (you mentioned a spot fishable without boat at the bridge of Boca Paila). Check out the bonefish on http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mmhodg I am standing on the Boca Paila bridge. That was my first and only bonefish. If I can catch one anyone can as I am totally clueless. Good luck and don’t forget your snorkle gear it should be great anywhere that time of year. mikeh
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gentle snip.. We figure renting a car and heading south towards Punta Allen would be a good idea (you mentioned a spot fishable without boat at the bridge of Boca Paila). Check out the bonefish on http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mmhodg I am standing on the Boca Paila bridge. That was my first and only bonefish. If I can catch one anyone can as I am totally clueless. Good luck and don’t forget your snorkle gear it should be great anywhere that time of year. mikeh
Hi Mike, You have a real special site. I saved it and will go back when I have more time. Your photos are very beautiful. Thanks. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop www.kiene.com
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I would welcome anybodys opinions on the best fly pattern’s, sizes, colors, etc. for fishing Yucatan bonefish and barracuda. Thanks.
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I would welcome anybodys opinions on the best fly pattern’s, sizes, colors, etc. for fishing Yucatan bonefish and barracuda. Thanks.
Hi U, Take a look at the Crazy Charlie in pearl, gold, pink and root beer. Snapping Shrimp are good in tan, brown, olive, pink and chartreuse. The Bonefish Bitters is good in root beer and olive. Try some small ‘dime size’ crabs in tan or olive. The hook/fly size depends on the brand of hook. I use TMC800S in #6 and #8. In Mustad 3407 or 34007 I use #4 and 6. If the bones are heavily fished, I use smaller flies. On turtle grass I use no eyes or weight. On sand I like bead chain eyes. If I am in moving water or water that is deeper that 2′, I use lead eyes. If the bones are moving then lead them a little. If they are tailing, try to get straight upwind and cast 6" in front of their head. Try to stay on a light colored bottom in shallow water (12" to 18"). Any kind of a tide movement is good. For Barracuda most use a 8" long green over white synthetic hair streamer with a wire tippet. Don’t cast at the fishes head. Cast in front of him and move it very fast. They can be very lazy if the tide is not moving. They seem to hit their prey in the middle, so most recommend a tandem hook in the rear of the fly. We are also using poppers for cudas. Many are caught while trolling if it is real windy or dark and cloudy. If you have any questions about the MX Yucatan or Belize let me know as it is my favorite subject. I am fishing 3 to 4 different places down there every year. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop www.kiene.com
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The standard patterns are pretty good. For Bones I like the Bonefish Bitter patterns in amber and olive (chartreuse works sometimes too) and I like smaller flies #6, even #8 too. There is a pattern called the Squimp that i did very well with also. For Cudas, the needlefish patterns in Chartreuse are good, and so are the Blanton Flashtail Whistlers. Have fun.
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If you have any questions about the MX Yucatan or Belize let me know as it is my favorite subject. I am fishing 3 to 4 different places down there every year.
Well, it seems me and my fishing pal are headed for Yucatan. We’ll be arriving on March the 30th., and we’ll stay a week in Playa del Carmen. We’re pretty much clueless when it comes to fishing for bones and the Yucatan area. Going with guides or staying at a fishing lodge would solve all our problems, but we trying to keep this at a budget level. We figure, we can afford guides one or two days, but we are unsure of who and where to go. My web searches mainly turned up some all-inclusive lodges, with steep prices. I did, however, search Dejanews for some pointers as well, and I found a bunch of your posts, which, as usual, were extremely helpful. We figure renting a car and heading south towards Punta Allen would be a good idea (you mentioned a spot fishable without boat at the bridge of Boca Paila). Going into Punta Allen itself also sounds exciting, perhaps spending a night there, trying to hook up with a guide or something, but we don’t speak Spanish (we speak English and German). An interesting fact was that in a guidebook, we found that the Bonefishing Club of Ascension Bay is run by a mr. Jan Persson, and that as Swedish sounding as names come. That would definitely be something to check up on when we get there..? So, we must decide how to spend our limited, precious guided time. Should we try a guide in Playa del Carmen or save our money for the Punta Allen area? Or there any possibilities for fly fishing in Playa del Carmen at all? Any pointers or recommendations on this would be greatly appreciated. (we already got a hotel, bundled with air fare) I think we got the gear situation under control, except for flies. Do you sell flies at your shop, Bill? We’d be _very_ happy to buy a set of your recommended flies. I will be needing one good set of flies, and one crappy set, looking good, for my friend..
(this is probably better suited for email, I guess) Our primary target is bonefish, but permit and even tarpon would be worth a shot, if the conditions favor it. We assume one can wade wet in normal clothes (thin long pants or shorts, shirt, sneakers), bringing a chest pack with water and fly fishing gear. Is that recommended for this time of year? (in terms of water temperature). How about a fishing license? Is that an issue at all? All hints and tips greatly appreciated. El Figen
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Tying Group
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Lost set up, hard drive kaput. need name of the usenet fly tying group. Any help appreciated. — * * * * * * * * * * * * Skip Summer From somewhere in the Huron River, * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Lost set up, hard drive kaput. need name of the usenet fly tying group. Any help appreciated.
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Humor is the Best Antidote
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Humor is the Best Antidote A recent opinion/commentary by Salem, Oregon newspaper reporter Henry Miller tersely contended among other things, that fly angling and spinfishing with casting bubble and a fly, are one and the same. Inspired by Miller’s profound ignorance of flyfishing and it’s centuries-old heritage, I hearby present The Henry Miller, a new genre of fly angling humor: "Henry Miller is so dumb…" …he thinks fly dressing is made by Kraft and sold at Waremart. …he thinks a streamer is someone who fishes…what else? Streams. …he thinks a roll cast is tossing bread to the ducks on Mill Creek. …he thinks Korkers are steelhead baits. …he thinks a double haul is two truck loads of top soil. …he thinks a dry fly is a no-drinks America West flight. …he thinks Mustad 9672 is a television program. …he thinks stripping line is a single’s bar come-on. …he thinks a riffle is a 30.06. …he thinks pocket water is a very small canteen. …he thinks herl means projectile regurgitation. …he thinks Sage is a kitchen spice. …he thinks a Royal Coachman is Prince Charles’ chauffeur. …he thinks fly casting refers to actor Jeff Goldblum. …he thinks a blood knot is a marriage of cousins. …he thinks 4X refers to a brand of condom. …he thinks dubbing is a lip sink. …he thinks The Big Horn is taking "cuts" in a movie line. …he thinks a fly rod is an insect’s reproductive appendage. …he thinks rod wraps are corporal punishment. …he thinks Orvis refers to a mouth, nose, or ear. …he thinks mending a line means equivocation. …he thinks a graphite rod is a pencil. …he thinks Haig-Brown is a fly pattern. …he thinks catch and release is a sin. …he thinks fish wrapper doesn’t refer to his column. Send your Henry Millers to: Jon Hazen – List Keeper Jon Hazen
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Humor is the Best Antidote A recent opinion/commentary by Salem, Oregon newspaper reporter Henry Miller tersely contended among other things, that fly angling and spinfishing with casting bubble and a fly, are one and the same. Inspired by Miller’s profound ignorance of flyfishing and it’s centuries-old heritage, I hearby present The Henry Miller, a new genre of fly angling humor: "Henry Miller is so dumb…" …he thinks fly dressing is made by Kraft and sold at Waremart. …he thinks a streamer is someone who fishes…what else? Streams. …he thinks a roll cast is tossing bread to the ducks on Mill Creek. …he thinks Korkers are steelhead baits. …he thinks a double haul is two truck loads of top soil. …he thinks a dry fly is a no-drinks America West flight. …he thinks Mustad 9672 is a television program. …he thinks stripping line is a single’s bar come-on. …he thinks a riffle is a 30.06. …he thinks pocket water is a very small canteen. …he thinks herl means projectile regurgitation. …he thinks Sage is a kitchen spice. …he thinks a Royal Coachman is Prince Charles’ chauffeur. …he thinks fly casting refers to actor Jeff Goldblum. …he thinks a blood knot is a marriage of cousins. …he thinks 4X refers to a brand of condom. …he thinks dubbing is a lip sink. …he thinks The Big Horn is taking "cuts" in a movie line. …he thinks a fly rod is an insect’s reproductive appendage. …he thinks rod wraps are corporal punishment. …he thinks Orvis refers to a mouth, nose, or ear. …he thinks mending a line means equivocation. …he thinks a graphite rod is a pencil. …he thinks Haig-Brown is a fly pattern. …he thinks catch and release is a sin. …he thinks fish wrapper doesn’t refer to his column.
…he thinks steelhead is the ammo for a 30.06. …he thinks nymph is the synonym for nymphet. …he thinks A River Runs Through It is Chicago’s motto. …he thinks a leader is Bill or Newt (take your pick!). Musconet
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Humor is the Best Antidote A recent opinion/commentary by Salem, Oregon newspaper reporter Henry Miller tersely contended among other things, that fly angling and spinfishing with casting bubble and a fly, are one and the same.
BEING A RESIDENT OF OREGON, I THOUGHT I’D ADVISE YOU THAT MR. MILLER’S USE OF THE TERM FLY ANGLING IS CORRECT IN IT’S COMPARISON TO SPIN FISHING WITH A FLY AND BUBBLE. HERE ON THE NORTH UMPQUA WE HAVE 35 MILES OF FLY ANGLING ONLY WATER. AND YES, FISHING WITH A FLY AND BUBBLE AS WELL AS WITH CONVENTIONAL FLYFISHING TACKLE IS ALLOWED. IT IS "FLY ANGLING" NOT "FLYFISHING" PERHAPS YOUR HUMOR MIGHT BE REDIRECTED! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Inspired by Miller’s profound ignorance of flyfishing and it’s centuries-old heritage, I hearby present The Henry Miller, a new genre of fly angling humor: "Henry Miller is so dumb…" …he thinks fly dressing is made by Kraft and sold at Waremart. …he thinks a streamer is someone who fishes…what else? Streams. …he thinks a roll cast is tossing bread to the ducks on Mill Creek. …he thinks Korkers are steelhead baits. …he thinks a double haul is two truck loads of top soil. …he thinks a dry fly is a no-drinks America West flight. …he thinks Mustad 9672 is a television program. …he thinks stripping line is a single’s bar come-on. …he thinks a riffle is a 30.06. …he thinks pocket water is a very small canteen. …he thinks herl means projectile regurgitation. …he thinks Sage is a kitchen spice. …he thinks a Royal Coachman is Prince Charles’ chauffeur. …he thinks fly casting refers to actor Jeff Goldblum. …he thinks a blood knot is a marriage of cousins. …he thinks 4X refers to a brand of condom. …he thinks dubbing is a lip sink. …he thinks The Big Horn is taking "cuts" in a movie line. …he thinks a fly rod is an insect’s reproductive appendage. …he thinks rod wraps are corporal punishment. …he thinks Orvis refers to a mouth, nose, or ear. …he thinks mending a line means equivocation. …he thinks a graphite rod is a pencil. …he thinks Haig-Brown is a fly pattern. …he thinks catch and release is a sin. …he thinks fish wrapper doesn’t refer to his column. Send your Henry Millers to: Jon Hazen – List Keeper Jon Hazen
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Humor is the Best Antidote A recent opinion/commentary by Salem, Oregon newspaper reporter Henry Miller tersely contended among other things, that fly angling and spinfishing with casting bubble and a fly, are one and the same.
Menard) spat: BEING A RESIDENT OF OREGON, I THOUGHT I’D ADVISE YOU THAT MR. MILLER’S USE OF THE TERM FLY ANGLING IS CORRECT IN IT’S COMPARISON TO SPIN FISHING WITH A FLY AND BUBBLE. HERE ON THE NORTH UMPQUA WE HAVE 35 MILES OF FLY ANGLING ONLY WATER. AND YES, FISHING WITH A FLY AND BUBBLE AS WELL AS WITH CONVENTIONAL FLYFISHING TACKLE IS ALLOWED. IT IS "FLY ANGLING" NOT "FLYFISHING" PERHAPS YOUR HUMOR MIGHT BE REDIRECTED!
Oh my god…a knitpicker…without a sense of humor or a lowercase keyboard. "Better get the gaff and the bat for this one." :) Inspired by Miller’s profound ignorance of flyfishing and it’s centuries-old heritage, I hearby present The Henry Miller, a new genre of fly angling humor: "Henry Miller is so dumb…" …he thinks The Big Horn is taking "cuts" in a movie long line. …he thinks fish wrapper doesn’t refer to his column.
Jon Hazen
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Flyfisers Who Ski or Skiers Who Flyfish?
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: I hear there’s a good stream in Vail…. Hey, that’s my bit. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem
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It’s rare indeed, but if you can find that section of clear bank, slightly inclined, it is possible to ski down while trolling a wooley bugger… TimW
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Does anyone have any statistics on the percentage of skiers who flyfish or flyfishers who ski. I was wondering what kind of turnout might be expected for a flyfishing show held at a ski resort or in a ski resort town where the flyfishing show would be scheduled for the evenings (3 to 10PM). Please respond directly. thanks, Bill Althoff
The ski industry does a lot of market research including reseach on other sports of interest to skiers. I have seen those reports in the past but don’t recall the fly fishing is very the list of other sports of interest to skiers. Ski Area Management magazine could probably give you the data, or put you in touch with the people that have the data. For what it’s worth, my personal observation (28 years teaching skiing, 32 years fly fishing) is that there is not very much natural attraction between skiers and flyfishing (at least alpine, downhill skiers). In contrast, there is a very high cross-over between skiing and sailing or windsurfing. I suspect you will find a higher correlation between nordic skiers and flyfishing. I do think however that as interest in fly fishing has increased in recent years, that skiers as a group are a likely target for "recruiting".
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Using backcountry ski’s to get up to fish some pretty areas in the winter sounds great to me. You might want to find some Rivers or Lakes that don’t freeze over tho. It’d be pretty boring to be casting to that little hole in the ice! Ted…. (I x-country ski, but have never tried this)
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Does anyone have any statistics on the percentage of skiers who flyfish or flyfishers who ski. I was wondering what kind of turnout might be expected for a flyfishing show held at a ski resort or in a ski resort town where the flyfishing show would be scheduled for the evenings (3 to 10PM). Please respond directly. thanks, Bill Althoff
In general, these would be the people I’d avoid like the plague. Strictly the Jeep Grand Cherokee-driving, capuccino-sipping, Cuban cigar-smoking, "Friends"-watching, cellular phone-carrying, lunch-doing, narcissistic, over-paid, post-Yuppie (have I covered it all?) crowd. I’ll stay home and re-read Haig-Brown. –Rich
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I don’t know about statistics, but I love fly fishing and my family loves skiing (I have problems skiing due to arthritis). So, we usually go out west skiing for my kids spring break (first week of April) and I look for ski areas near good fishing opportunities. A lot of ski areas are right near great fishing areas because mountain streams are great for fishing. My sense is that the FF business picks up in the summer after the snow is gone. A good time to do a show, would be first week of April. Spring skiing is good then and so is pre run-off fishing. Steve Rosenblum
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Does anyone have any statistics on the percentage of skiers who flyfish or flyfishers who ski.
Here’s the sad tale of why these don’t mix. In 1967 a nice friend of the family gave me a gift. He knew I loved fishing so he gave me a bamboo flyrod. Took me a long time to figure out how to use it, couldn’t get that fat line through the hook eye, bait kept flying off when I cast, etc. Finally saw a story in a mag at the rec center, butchered my sister’s Barbie doll, raided the Xmas stuff and tied me a fly. Caught some tinker mackerel and pollock on it. All this was well and good until skiing ruined it. In 1968 I used to ski on a hill behind my house. At the base of that hill lived a – high school girl (I was 12 at the time) and she was cuuute. After the Olympics she had a crush on Jean Claude Killy. I had a pair of skiis, but didn’t have any gates to fly through and win her heart. I cut up all my fishing poles (I had a lot of them) and set me one hell of a course. Learned to ski through it too. She ran away with a basketball player. I had no fishing poles. It was many years later when I was poking around my Dad’s basement, that I found the cork grip with a little stubb of bamboo sticking out of it. A little stub that said "Orvis" on it. This is all true, I only hope that wasn’t a Wes Jordan I ran GS through. So you see skiing and flyfishing just plain don’t mix. The woman part is arguable. jc
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Does anyone have any statistics on the percentage of skiers who flyfish or flyfishers who ski. I was wondering what kind of turnout might be expected for a flyfishing show held at a ski resort or in a ski resort town where the flyfishing show would be scheduled for the evenings (3 to 10PM). Please respond directly.
No statistics, just a few ideas. The same can be said for fly-fishing and skiing regarding portions of the sport.
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Where's the best lodge to fish 4 BIG Permit & Bonefish
Where's the best lodge to fish 4 BIG Permit & Bonefish
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Boca Paila and Casa Blanca have great permit, some Tarpon and lotsa bones. The bones are on the smallish side but you should get more chances a permit than in the Bahamas or Florida. I’ve fished Boca Paila twice. Good folks. Casa Blanca is just to the South of Boca Paila. Best day — 13 bones before lunch. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
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A great, and less expensive alternative to fishing at Asencion Bay is the CUZAN GUEST HOUSE at $1450 per week, double occupancy. Contact me for more info. Gene Kelly
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Bonefish? If you want really big permit, the biggest are found in Ascension Bay on the Yucatan Penninsula of Mexico (Carribean side). There is currently a world record pending from the area. I fished there in June and stayed at the Ascension Bay Bonefish Club (great place for small parties – no more than a max of 6). Joe Sugura is an excellent host. Did a lot of looking and almost no casting to permit (one cast 5 feet behind a permit as he left the area). One of the guys that week took 5 permit the biggest being around 26 lbs. On the last day my fishing partner got off about a dozen casts to two permit that were over 30 lbs ( if only I’d been on the other side of the boat!). Kaufmann’s book is way off in its description of permit fishing in the area. They have a great picture in the lodge of a triple on Permit (this is real unusual). Bonefish are plentiful there, but not nearly so big as the singles and doubles you’ll find in florida. They make up for it by traveling in schools. Some beautiful flats fishing. Food was great by the way. You can contact them through Fishing International (1-800-950-4242). Good Fishing, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again. So what if they eat other fish? If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).
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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
I think the biggest permit are caught in southern Florida. They catch pretty nice ones in Ascension Bay, Yucatan, Mexico. I think the biggest average size for bones is in southern Florida and the Bahamas. They are both very difficult on a fly and I would recommend working your way up the ladder by fishing for more plentiful, smaller fish that are much easier to catch. Personally, that is what I have been doing for the past fifteen years. Call us and we can tell you about many flats destinations. 800/4000FLY William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » New COLORADO FLY FISHING RESORT
New COLORADO FLY FISHING RESORT
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We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado. The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public. Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water. All walk and wade. Guided. Instruction available. No extra costs. Catch and release. Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish. For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1, Walden, Colorado. 80480. 970-723-4209
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado. The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public. Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water. All walk and wade. Guided. Instruction available. No extra costs. Catch and release. Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish. For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1, Walden, Colorado. 80480. 970-723-4209
There goes another one. There it goes again !. There goes another one. When will it ever end ?. TimW
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New? New my ass…new if your new to the group…but i think most of us are tiring of this add by now… Dan Foster
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Trout Patterns – Michigan Sept. 1995
Trout Patterns – Michigan Sept. 1995
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Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks. We are going to Grand Haven to visit my family for 2 weeks and I would like to get some fishing in. I tie my own, so if you can suggest any conventional pattern, or give me a short description for local patterns I would be eternally grateful. Thanks, Jack Holton Denver, CO "Rasthedog"
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Look up the "white-gloved Howdey" in Caucci and Nastasi’s book, Hatches II. I use size 14. The book also has hatch charts that can really help. Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks. We are going to Grand Haven to visit my family for 2 weeks and I would like to get some fishing in. I tie my own, so if you can suggest any conventional pattern, or give me a short description for local patterns I would be eternally grateful. Thanks, Jack Holton Denver, CO "Rasthedog" Regards, John Sirmans
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Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks. We
Call Steve Southard, owner of the fly factory in Grayling MI at (517) 348-5844. He should be able to give you some info. Rusty Gates also has a nice shop up there, but I don’t have his number handy. . Lenny Bloksberg . .
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Rusty Gates phone #: 517-348-8462; Johnson’s Pere Marquette Lodge 616-745-3972. All three places (incl. the Fly Factory) should also be able to provide you with a guide if you are unfamiliar with the water. have fun – should be plenty of salmon in the waters in mid-Sept.
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Organization: IQuest Network Services X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.91.6 (AnnRMiller) says: Rusty Gates phone #: 517-348-8462; Johnson’s Pere Marquette Lodge 616-745-3972. All three places (incl. the Fly Factory) should also be able to provide you with a guide if you are unfamiliar with the water. have fun – should be plenty of salmon in the waters in mid-Sept.
There are a couple web sites you might try: http://www.novagate.com/~bscheere/bens.html (Ben’s flyfishing corner, contains info on PM, Ausable, Muskegon and Kalamazoo rivers) http://oeonline.com/~rmarsh/fishpg.html (Ricks flyfishing page, contains info on Ausable) For hatches you’ll probably see BLO, trico’s and caddis. Tight lines, Bob
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