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That fish pictuer is great Huggy Bear thanks alot.    I kept lookin in that windows help place an the missus helped an I figgered out how to do signatures.   It wasnt easy an it didnt work at first neither.  I hadda put everything in that notepad there an then saved it to the hard thing an then we hadda tell the computar to use the stuff we saved.   The pictuer looks better when we look at it with note pad.  It looks kinda crunched with this Out Look here.  Lemme know if it looks ok I dont know what the problem is.

Yep, it looks just like it should.  The problem you might be having is using a proportional (like a book), instead of a fixed-width (like a typewriter) font.  In Outlook Express, go to the Tools menu, select Options and click on the tab marked Read.  Then click on the button marked Fonts and select Courier New as your fixed width font.  You might want to set it as your proportional width font as well.  I don’t use OE myself, but that should do you OK. An like Bulb an some of them other meowers was sayin I should do I added some stuff after the pictuer.   Its some old stuff from a couple years ago when I first tangled with them Coleman guacamoles.  Im gonna keep addin stuff as I get enuff time.  I been so busy Im lucky I got this done. I wanna end up with everybody that sees my stuff understandin that theres a buncha bums and punks out there an everything to do with nature is goin down the crapper an nobody gives a rats ass neither an everybody thinks censerin is good.

Damn straight.  I’m a city-lovin’ boy myself, but I’ve got no more time for censors than you have. Anyways lemme know if it looks ok Hey I forgot to ask I seen replys to me by that Millenanal Catastrophy there.   Is he the same as Medical Catastrophy or are they related somehow?

The story I heard was that Medcat was killed in a freak crossposting accident and Milcat is his evil twin. Thanks again Huggy Bear that great! Tony G.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That fish pictuer is great Huggy Bear thanks alot.    I kept lookin in that windows help place an the missus helped an I figgered out how to do signatures.   It wasnt easy an it didnt work at first neither.  I hadda put everything in that notepad there an then saved it to the hard thing an then we hadda tell the computar to use the stuff we saved.   The pictuer looks better when we look at it with note pad.  It looks kinda crunched with this Out Look here.  Lemme know if it looks ok I dont know what the problem is. An like Bulb an some of them other meowers was sayin I should do I added some stuff after the pictuer.   Its some old stuff from a couple years ago when I first tangled with them Coleman guacamoles.  Im gonna keep addin stuff as I get enuff time.  I been so busy Im lucky I got this done. I wanna end up with everybody that sees my stuff understandin that theres a buncha bums and punks out there an everything to do with nature is goin down the crapper an nobody gives a rats ass neither an everybody thinks censerin is good. Anyways lemme know if it looks ok Hey I forgot to ask I seen replys to me by that Millenanal Catastrophy there.   Is he the same as Medical Catastrophy or are they related somehow?

Medical Catastrophe was the False One. Only I am licensed to speak the word of the one true FLUFFY. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks again Huggy Bear that great! Tony G. —                                                                      |                                                                      |     3 1 3 3 t                                                        |                               “-, ______,,–,,__                    |              ,-’““’ ‘ ‘                   _/     ‘.    [%%|     ‘|’ `,      ,-’“’ ‘                        _- _-/ ===   (%%)    J L/  “`,__/`’ ‘   _                        _-     ===_,,–`-_/     |“/   |                        /J     |`/     |/ Heres some old stuff  to the Coleman board there you guys never seen This is some bum tryin to get me thrown off a that Coleman board there.

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as my abused feet thaw, i thought i’d share a trip report with ya’ll. jeff arrived at the predetermined time, and i was damn near ready. we eventually loaded my gear in the truck and made our way off to the elk. we stopped at a convenience store for ice but it really wasn’t needed— we could have just as well laid the beer out in the truck bed and it would have been properly chilled upon our return. we walked the snow packed trail down and reached our favorite put-in spot. as we had rigged up at the truck, we were ready to fish. aberrantly, i cockily asked jeff if he wanted to see a fish out of the first hole. i dropped my bhhe into the water..and lordy…a rainbow made me look like a laughing prophet. jeff just shook his head and laughed. i knew we were in for one hell of a special day. nymphing in the blue cold of winter is wonderful. the air is crisp and fresh, the river is changed, yet gorgeous in it’s white blanket. i’d finish this story for ya’ll…but sweet smells are wafting down here from marie’s cooking and i’m starved… just let it be known that it really doesn’t get any better than to be astream with a good friend, no matter how friggin cold it is! waldo..prince of pilsner

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<good report snipped Nice sounding report Walt.  One time fishing the Upper Provo, my friend was not having any luck. I asked to see his rig.  He was using a gold ribbed hare’s ear.  I laid a cast using his fly rod in some ripples just before a pool and hooked up to a nice 12" rainbow.  Handed the rod back to him and told him, seems to be working fine.  It was pure luck and great timing on my part. bc. — Angling may be said to be so like the mathematics that it can never be fully learnt — Izaak Walton

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Blackcat writes: Nice sounding report Walt.  One time fishing the Upper Provo, my friend was not having any luck. I asked to see his rig.  He was using a gold ribbed hare’s ear.  I laid a cast using his fly rod in some ripples just before a pool and hooked up to a nice 12" rainbow.  Handed the rod back to him and told him, seems to be working fine.  It was pure luck and great timing on my part. bc.

LOL.  That has happened to all of us, I belief.  The best one that happened to me concerned a registered Maine Guide.  He was "trying out" a new 3 weight he had just made.  I sat for about 10 minutes watching him cast a size 20 emerger into a particular pool.  He asked me to try the rod.  I made several false casts, sort of getting the feel of things.  When I presented the fly, it must have landed right in front of a 17 inch land locked salmon, for he came up and slashed at the fly.  The rest is a pleasant memory.  When I released the fish, I told him it not only cast well, but landed well too.  <g Dave L.

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Got the class ring on?                 Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ouch. Get those gloves up higher, dammit! /daytripper

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). This rod is georgeous — I hate to sell it but need the money for a saltwater rod. Originally was $250, will sell for $190/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt.

I’ll certainly give you credit for persistence, Joe. OBROFF (whatever that means), I’m a fan of Penn and Fenwick graphite fly rods–I don’t hear much about them on this newsgroup, though. The Penn and Fenwick rods look extremely similar, so they much share manufacturing (just a guess). Anyway, one of my local fly shops sells them and I’ve found them on the Web. Because they’re in the $160-$180 price range I’m suprised they are not more attractive to folks who don’t want to spend $300 on a rod. They have a really nice finish and a medium action. YMMV, but I think they are a nice rod for the price. I own the 8′6" 4-piece 5wt–it was the first fly rod I purchased (Ok, not technically the first since I bought a Browning as a teenager to use for nymphing with a spinning reel). I like the rod action–but what the heck do I know. My only disappointment is that the ferrule fit on my rod (can’t speak for the model as a whole) isn’t the best and after a day of fishing one of the ferrules tends to work its way loose if I don’t check them every once in a while. I have another Penn rod 9′ 2-piece 4wt and a Fenwick 7′ 4wt 2-peice–neither of which has that problem. –Steve

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I’ll certainly give you credit for persistence, Joe. OBROFF (whatever that means), I’m a fan of Penn and Fenwick graphite fly rods–I don’t hear much about them on this newsgroup, though.

    i bought my youngest boy an 8′ penn last year as his first rod.  he loves it, although i find the action to be a little on the soft side.  the problem you experienced with your ferrules hasn’t appeared.     i might be interested in ol joe’s nine footer, except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… wayno

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Explode or die of boredom?             Frank Reid except i am afraid that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… wayno

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Explode or die of boredom?            Frank Reid except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change…

He means when it falls off the top of his car due to the direction change (or was that Daytripper?) <g — Charlie…

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Explode or die of boredom?            Frank Reid except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… He means when it falls off the top of his car due to the direction change (or was that Daytripper?) <g

Ouch. Get those gloves up higher, dammit! /daytripper

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FORSALE –  Penn International 4-pc flyrod I have a beautiful, brand new Penn 4 piece flyrod that I want to sell. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $250 firm + shipping. I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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You might want to provide a model number with that fly rod and/or try your hand at eBay, since I’ve recently seen several brand new Penn Gold Medal 4-piece travel rods for sale at fly shops (on the Web and in my city) for less than $160. Steve Zimmerman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FORSALE –  Penn International 4-pc flyrod I have a beautiful, brand new Penn 4 piece flyrod that I want to sell. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $250 firm + shipping. I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $225/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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Joe, I’m not trying to sabotage you; nor do I have a problem with an occasional FS post. But I do feel the need to point out that you can buy this rod brand new on the web for $189.95 retail. Check out: http://www.tackledirect.com/tackle/penngoldmedal.html –Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $225/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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Wayne Knight Geneva IL You’re right Wayne but Walt grew up in Florida. Somewhere in the swamps I think.

mango infested islands loaded with big tusked hogs and big, slow moving turtles.  That’s why it takes him so long to do anything and is why women love him. ; ) —

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Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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I went with a guide a couple of years ago on the Quinault, looking for Kings. Fishing was just fair for most parties, although two of us stuck to our guns with flys and were fishless late in the afternoon. The guide finally hooked into a 20 lb King (he said it was a Steelhead, go figure) using a 6" dayglo orange flatfish. He handed me the rod and it was a lot of fun. So I would suggest big colorful streamers. Maybe even reeaally big, like a bunny bug in bright colors. Always have some dark ones too, especially purple. The 8wt will be ok for the Silvers and smaller Kings, but the Quinault has been know to produce 60lb Kings, so if you do hook one of those, god help you, and just hope that your party has the patience to wait an hour or more for you to land it, if it doesn’t break you off (or bust your rod!) Bring your rain gear and a thermos of hot coffee! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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Your setup sounds just right, I’de trust your guide but an october caddis in a 6 to 4 for a floating line and a kaufmans stone fly dark for a sink tip shooting head line for steelhead… fish the spots the guide recommends as the water will be all yours and very under fished, excellent choice… just a thought… I’de be glad to answer any other questions you may have at

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,    I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                        Ken

Hi Ken, I don’t know that river, but Oct is a great month to fish in the Northwest for steelhead. There might be some fall Kings, late Silvers and some Sea run Cutthroats too? I would have a floating line and a T-300 or similar line. Get some stiffer 71/2 foot 0x to 2x leaders and matching tippet material. Get some black flies like a Bunny Leeches, Egg Sucking Bugger or any black steelhead patterns. Get some bright colored flashing flies in orange or chartreuse. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Gary, I would have a look at Redington. I find them to be reasonably priced and good casting rods with a solid warranty. Scott has a new series out called the Voyager series. They are priced at just over $100 but I’m not sure what the warranty is. Kevin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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Gary, Luther makes a good point about multi-piece (more than two) rods having a different feel than 2 piece rods.  There is also the point that multi-piece rods are more expensive.  If you want the ultimate pack rod, look at the new Sage, 5 wt., five-piece rod.  I cast it last week and you can’t tell it’s a five-piece.  Very smooth.  I’d love to own one, but I’m sending the wife to Germany instead of buying a new rod. Tough decision! Good luck, Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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Gary: The Thomas and Thomas Emerger series is wonderful at about $250.00.

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<SNIP I’d love to own one, but I’m sending the wife to Germany instead of buying a new rod. Tough decision! Good luck, Bob

Yeah, but now that you’re rid of her, you can buy all the new rods you want, right?   Bob Scott (saving up to send my girlfriend to the North Pole)

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Yes. The multi-piece rods feel more like slow to medium action cane rods to me. I like the feel for certain applications (big, open streams mostly), but not in general. I haven’t tried the new Sage 5-piece, but will now that I know about it. That is, if I can convince MY wife to accept that ticket to Germany…. Luther – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary, Luther makes a good point about multi-piece (more than two) rods having a different feel than 2 piece rods.  There is also the point that multi-piece rods are more expensive.  If you want the ultimate pack rod, look at the new Sage, 5 wt., five-piece rod.  I cast it last week and you can’t tell it’s a five-piece.  Very smooth.  I’d love to own one, but I’m sending the wife to Germany instead of buying a new rod. Tough decision! Good luck, Bob I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

Hi All, Three, four and five piece rods are very popular today. I still hear some veterans fly fishers advising beginners to stay away from muli-piece rods due to inferior actions and excessive weight. This was true 20 or more years ago, but today we have trouble selling high end rods in the two piece configuration. The most popular combination for us is a nine foot rod in three pieces. Many of the anglers that are buying high end rods are traveling and have no use for two piece rods. I am afraid that you will have to look at rods that are over the $200 mark to get a multi-piece that is light and cast well. Sage, Loomis, Scott, Winston, T&T and Orvis all have good travel rods. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I just got (well, OK, I’ve got to wait until Christmas until I can actually play with it a new Redington RedStart 4-piece that felt nice and crisp to me.  I’m used to a relatively slow rod (St. Croix Pro Graphite) so maybe this rod would be slow-and- sloppy to others, but to me it felt pretty good.  I’m looking forward to being able to try it out next spring.  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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Bob:  I have a Redstart 4-piece, that I think is a great, crisp action rod. Any way you could sneak it out before Christmas? The grip can’t get too dirty after only one or two trips.

Yeah, I could probably manage it – but why?  It’ll still be a nice, shiny, new rod next spring, and if I wait I won’t annoy my wife.  Hey, you gotta love a woman who buys you fishin’ stuff.  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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Bill was respond post about rods & mentioned several makers, prompting the long standing question:  How many of these manufacturer their own blanks?   Was once told its like lawnmowers, where two or three manufacture all the deck, & a few more the motors. alp – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, Three, four and five piece rods are very popular today. I still hear some veterans fly fishers advising beginners to stay away from muli-piece rods due to inferior actions and excessive weight. This was true 20 or more years ago, but today we have trouble selling high end rods in the two piece configuration. The most popular combination for us is a nine foot rod in three pieces. Many of the anglers that are buying high end rods are traveling and have no use for two piece rods. I am afraid that you will have to look at rods that are over the $200 mark to get a multi-piece that is light and cast well. Sage, Loomis, Scott, Winston, T&T and Orvis all have good travel rods.

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Bill was respond to a post about rods & mentioned several makers, prompting the long standing question:  How many of these manufacturer their own blanks?   Was once told its like lawnmowers, where two or three manufacture all the deck, & a few more the motors. alp – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, Three, four and five piece rods are very popular today. I still hear some veterans fly fishers advising beginners to stay away from muli-piece rods due to inferior actions and excessive weight. This was true 20 or more years ago, but today we have trouble selling high end rods in the two piece configuration. The most popular combination for us is a nine foot rod in three pieces. Many of the anglers that are buying high end rods are traveling and have no use for two piece rods. I am afraid that you will have to look at rods that are over the $200 mark to get a multi-piece that is light and cast well. Sage, Loomis, Scott, Winston, T&T and Orvis all have good travel rods.

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I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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Gary– I don’t think you’ll find much price difference between the Sage, Orvis, and Loomis. The St. Croix might be a bit cheaper. 4-piece rods have a different feel and action than 2-piece. At least to me,. they generally feel more like old-fashioned fibreglass or bamboo rods, with a slow to medium action. I own Sage, Loomis and Orvis 2-piece rods, and Orvis and Loomis 4-piece ones. Although I travel a lot, I rarely take the 4-piecers. I don’t like the slower action, and I find that my two-piece rods (8-ft 4-wts and 7-ft 9-in 2 and 2-weights) fit in most airline overhead bins. In the 2-piece rod category, I much prefer the Sages, especially when nymphing, but they do have a tendency to break. If you like the sport, and want to contiinue enjoying it, including tying your own files and all the other stuff we get into, go to several shops, try a lot of dffrerent rod, reel and line combinations, and buy the one that feels most comfortable to you when you cast it, regardless of price. Lots of shops here in Colorado will even let you take a rod and reel out on the stream for the day. Unless you live somewhere that large fish are common, I’d bet that you would like a 4 or 5-weight medium action rod best. Luther – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help!

Gary’s choice is simplified because 4-piece rods are relatively rare.  Next, the question is whether he can tell the difference in actual use between expensive and cheap rods:  if not, he might as well buy the cheaper.  If he can see and feel the difference, he should test cast as many different makes as possible, to see which he prefers.  This decision can be made only by test casting various brands.  I would not buy from any dealer unwilling or unable to allow test casting (most do but some do not — which again simplifies things.) If apprehensive about breaking tips, Gary can limit his selection to those with 25-year guarantees (usually adver- tised in the FF magazines.) There is no such thing as a "beginner" rod.  My first rod (Fenwick brown glass FF model) cost $30 or $40 in 1970 or thereabouts and remains available as a backup or to lend to friends. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I just got (well, OK, I’ve got to wait until Christmas until I can actually play with it a new Redington RedStart 4-piece that felt nice and crisp to me.  I’m used to a relatively slow rod (St. Croix Pro Graphite) so maybe this rod would be slow-and- sloppy to others, but to me it felt pretty good.  I’m looking forward to being able to try it out next spring.  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

    Personally I think it imperative the swystem be tested to assure proper operation and satisfaction, the sooner the better so that if there is a problem it can be solved now before the weather turns. Also on Christmas morning I’d string it up and hike out to the yard for a bit of casting practice noteing that snow is just cold highly aireated water after all.                                                             John Popp                                                           in Sanford Fl.

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Bob:  I have a Redstart 4-piece, that I think is a great, crisp action rod. Any way you could sneak it out before Christmas? The grip can’t get too dirty after only one or two trips. Mark Faulkner I just got (well, OK, I’ve got to wait until Christmas until I can actually play with it a new Redington RedStart 4-piece that felt nice and crisp to me.  I’m used to a relatively slow rod (St. Croix Pro Graphite) so maybe this rod would be slow-and- sloppy to others, but to me it felt pretty good.  I’m looking forward to being able to try it out next spring.  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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Gary, try LL Bean.  They aren’t too pricey (as these things go).  Service is GREAT and the rod is guaranteed for life Tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to flyfishing  and am using a beginner rod. Time to move up and want a 4 piece travel rod, 5wt. Sage seems popular but expensive. How is Loomis, St. Croix, Orvis or other by comparison? Lifetime warranty seems to be desirable (already broke rod tip once). Most fly shops seem to be set on what they sell…no wonder. What are your experiences? Thanks for the help! Gary

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Am planning to have my car break down in Eugene within the next day or so. Can anyone tell me about the good fishing holes or give me the phone number of a fly shop that might give me directions. Thanks! Bruce

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Am planning to have my car break down in Eugene within the next day or so. Can anyone tell me about the good fishing holes or give me the phone number of a fly shop that might give me directions. Thanks! Bruce

Try calling the Caddis Fly in Eugene. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.eg:brook trout    18in long – 5in width =  lbs ?

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Hi Stephen-    You need to measure the girth of the fish at its thickest part. I’m taking a stab and guessing your "5in width" is about a 12" girth. An 18 inch trout with a 12 inch girth is a 4.9 pound fish.    Feel free to download our girth/length/weight table. Put some contact paper on it to keep it dry and stuff it in your vest.     Go to http://www.flyline.com. Scroll down two thirds of the page and select "tips and techniques". From there select "flyfishing tips". Scroll through the tips untils you find "weighing your catch with a tape".    Tight lines, Ralph Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.eg:brook trout    18in long – 5in width =  lbs ?

Ralph Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com

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Stephen writes: Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.eg:brook trout

   18in long – 5in width =  lbs ? Stephen: Estimating the weight of a salmonid, I have used the following with some success: weight in lbs = length in inches x girth in inches squared all divided by 800.    an 18 inch brook trout with a 11 inch girth would be 18×11x11/800 = 2.72 pounds.  since you did not give the girth…. can’t tell about your particular fish… an 18 inch brook trout would be hugh in Virginia…. cheers, Alan E. Hoover Anglers’ Rest Powhatan, Va        *the trout teach many, lessons*

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Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.eg:brook trout    18in long – 5in width =  lbs ?

Sounds like a lucy to me. You need the girth, the measurement around the fish at the widest point. This formula was posted here a few years ago by a fellow from BC who says the biologists there use it.  Length x (girth in inches squared) divided by 800=weight in pounds. i.e.  20 inch trout with 10 inch girth would figure out to 2000/ 800=2 1/2 pounds and so on. If you tell me where you caught it I’ll help you with the math. MV — http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.

Why estimate? If you’re keeping the fish, just weigh it directly.   If you’re going to release it, carry a small scale (hanging type) in your vest.  Once you’ve netted the fish, hook the scale into the net. Subtract the net weight to get the weight of the fish.   It’s easy, more accurate than an estimation formula, and is easier on the fish than taking a girth measurement, since you’re handling it less, and reviving/releasing it sooner. CQ

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Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish.

always carry with you a dead fish of known weight and then hold the fish you are weighing in one hand and the dead fish of known weight in the other hand and stand there with a thoughtful expression on you face as you estimate the weight of the unknown fish and look just like the scales of justice lady… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish. always carry with you a dead fish of known weight and then hold the fish you are weighing in one hand and the dead fish of known weight in the other hand and stand there with a thoughtful expression on you face as you estimate the weight of the unknown fish and look just like the scales of justice lady… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

You forgot to mention the calculation to allow for the growth mould and scale loss.. — Colin J. McPherson B.Eng. Design and Structures Group, School of Mechanical Engineering, University of Bath,Bath,U.K.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Would appreciate any info on estimating weight of fish. always carry with you a dead fish of known weight and then hold the fish you are weighing in one hand and the dead fish of known weight in the other hand and stand there with a thoughtful expression on you face as you estimate the weight of the unknown fish and look just like the scales of justice lady… — TimW Halfordian Golfer You forgot to mention the calculation to allow for the growth mould and scale loss..

Thank you for mentioning this.  You are quite correct, except that in the case of fishermen the rounding up error more then compensates for mould and scale loss. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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you can estimate the weight with this formula.It seems to be right on.You measure the girth then multiply it by itself.then multiply that figure with the length.then divide by 800.example: a striper with a 22 1/2 girth and a length of 38 inches comes out to about 24.04 lbs.   22.5  x  22.5 =506.25 then multiply 506.25 by the lenght 38=19237.5 then divide by 800=24.04

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We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden          Fishinternet Australia          http://www.fishnet.com.au/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden         Fishinternet Australia         http://www.fishnet.com.au/

I checked your page. It looks good. Can you help me with advice on fly-fishing for Barramundi in the Cairns / Port Douglas area, or even further north into Cape York. I’ve heard this is something of a new frontier in salt water fly fishing and that the Barramunid is excellent quarry. I will be in the area for 2 weeks in September. I’d like to know about seasons, flies, techniques, guides, etc. Thanks. Christopher Payne.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden         Fishinternet Australia         http://www.fishnet.com.au/ I checked your page. It looks good. Can you help me with advice on fly-fishing for Barramundi in the Cairns / Port Douglas area, or even further north into Cape York. I’ve heard this is something of a new frontier in salt water fly fishing and that the Barramunid is excellent quarry. I will be in the area for 2 weeks in September. I’d like to know about seasons, flies, techniques, guides, etc. Thanks. Christopher Payne. Can you assure me of the availability of that nectar of the gods known

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