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We are approaching critical mass–and a dangerous time–that of sinking poll numbers for Bush, and the revelation of the proofs that the towers were hit by missles from specially outfitted planes, and the proof that the towers came down thru controlled demoliton. That’s more than enough proof.  The website http://www.letsroll911.org is ranked as among the top 25K downloaded sites on the Internet in the past month. But with these two events closing in on the Bush administration, the falling polls, and the complicity of 9/11 getting known, may trigger another attack, and the declaration of martial law, in order to cancel the election, shut down the Internet as we know it, and to clamp down on further discussion of 9/11. Some say we are already in a partial police state,  and some say we now more everything that has been said, the Congress, the military,  the media, does nothing.  Obviously they are persuaded to do nothing. http://www.911sharethetruth.com 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB–OUR NATION IS IN PERIL       – A Call to All True Patriots –    We have actively studied the questionable nature of the official version of what happened to our nation on September 11, 2001. Throughout the first year after 9-11 we ignored and did not believe those who asked us to question the official story. Like millions of Americans we believed America had been attacked by terrorists from abroad. Sadly, we are now convinced that our government committed a vicious criminal act against its own citizens for the larger purpose of swaying us to support both domestic and foreign policies mapped out in the mid and late 1990’s. 9-11 was Hitler’s Reichstag fire of 1933 and Roosevelt’s Pearl Harbor masterfully coordinated to achieve the desired ends of an imperialistic role for America in the world, patriotic support at home and the erosion of our constitutional rights. In a nutshell, the war on terrorism is a cruel hoax by a misguided, out-of-democratic control small group of individuals sabotaging the best of American values. We are in the midst of a constitutional crisis combined with severe domination from an Orwellian corporate media knowingly or unknowingly being of service to the true powerbrokers behind the curtain. We feel like we are living in the "Matrix" where we can blend in, but knowing something is horribly wrong and must be exposed. The quality of life for all of our loved ones is at stake along with the hopes of millions of people for a world of peace, freedom and ecological sustainability. If just a few of you take the time to study a little more and become involved in the 9-11 truth movement we will be greatly appreciative. We strongly feel that people of all progressive movements should involve themselves in this effort to expose the truth about 9-11 and in the greatest push ever from the grassroots to nonviolently replace our current despotic leadership. It would have tremendous positive consequences to all of our progressive movements if similar to the fall of Nixon over Watergate that the Bush administration was exposed on this and replaced. This outrageous criminal act must be brought to justice and our freedoms restored. We need to reach out now to all those who may be willing to hear and break the silence. Go to site for posters, cassettes, buttons… http://www.911sharethetruth.com

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We are approaching critical mass–and a dangerous time–that of sinking poll numbers for Bush, and the revelation of the proofs that the towers were hit by missles from specially outfitted planes, and the proof that the towers came down thru controlled demoliton. That’s more than enough proof.  The website http://www.letsroll911.org is ranked as among the top 25K downloaded sites on the Internet in the past month.

Yep, it was an inside job….the planes blew up INSIDE the buildings. Gee, you are so smart.  You are right about specially outfitted planes… aircraft slamming into the side of a building would go in just like a missle.  And correct again about the controlled demolition…those terrorists must have been really skilled to be able to CONTROL the way they demolished the buildings. By the way numbnuts, watch the footage again.  The buildings did not collapse starting from the bottom.  A controlled demolition would not have been done in the basement, but would have needed to take out at least a dozen floors with the size of the buildings and taken at least a week to plan, and implement.  I think people would have gotten just a mite suspicious with work crews cutting through the structural pilings, setting shaped charges and running primer cord throughout the buildings. The quality of the steel made back when the towers were constructed was poor compared to today.  The structural tolerance was quite low.  The intense heat would collapse the pilings.  And the weight exerted by the upper floors would and did cause the lower ones to fail, causing a cascade failure.  The only way the building would have toppled is if the lower pilings were strong enough to hold back the collapsing upper floors and deflect the path of the fall.  But, as we all saw, it did not. Cease and decist your trolling.  People are getting sick of your freakish extremist "moveon.orgism". GO AWAY!!!!     *PLONK*

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are approaching critical mass–and a dangerous time–that of sinking poll numbers for Bush, and the revelation of the proofs that the towers were hit by missles from specially outfitted planes, and the proof that the towers came down thru controlled demoliton. That’s more than enough proof.  The website http://www.letsroll911.org is ranked as among the top 25K downloaded sites on the Internet in the past month. But with these two events closing in on the Bush administration, the falling polls, and the complicity of 9/11 getting known, may trigger another attack, and the declaration of martial law, in order to cancel the election, shut down the Internet as we know it, and to clamp down on further discussion of 9/11. Some say we are already in a partial police state,  and some say we now more everything that has been said, the Congress, the military,  the media, does nothing.  Obviously they are persuaded to do nothing. Yup – and yet the media still refuses to even question the wacko bush conspriracy explanation for 9-11.  Thank gof for the net or it would truly be hopeless.

What does gof have to do with anything. — Retired military and damn proud of it.

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Yup – and yet the media still refuses to even question the wacko bush conspriracy explanation for 9-11.  Thank gof for the net or it would truly be hopeless. Indeed.  Being uncensored,

Free press would also be uncensored.                                       the net provides the ideal soapbox for every paranoid conspiracy theorist who knows how to use a keyboard.

Which does not mean that everything on the net or in ng’s that does not conform to your beliefs is conspiracy theory. Expressions like "conspiracy theory" appeal to the irrational side of people, and so serve only to cloud the issues. The official story of 9/11 is also a conspiracy theory: several people conspired to execute the attacks; and the story is no more than a theory because there is only precious little evidence to support it. And of all the conspiracy theories so far presented, the official story is among the silliest. Matti P.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Which does not mean that everything on the net or in ng’s that does not conform to your beliefs is conspiracy theory. This is true.  Yet, just because it does not conform to my beliefs does not automatically mean that it is accurate. Expressions like "conspiracy theory" appeal to the irrational side of people, and so serve only to cloud the issues. The official story of 9/11 is also a conspiracy theory: several people conspired to execute the attacks; and the story is no more than a theory because there is only precious little evidence to support it. Perhaps then I should have used the full term "paranoid conspiracy theory" – addressing those ideas that attempt to explain facts that have already been explained, but in a far more bizarre and usually convoluted manner that reassures the wannabe Fox Mulder that The Truth Really Is Out There, and that THEY do not want you to know about it.  It is really only a desire on the part of the theorist to demonstrate their ability to outwit THEM, despite all the barriers THEY supposedly put in the theorists’ way.

I understood your point; just wanted to clarify terms. And of all the conspiracy theories so far presented, the official story is among the silliest. Oh, by no means.  In my experience, by far the silliest theory yet put forward is by the Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists (PCTs) themselves.

Please note: I said "among the silliest", not "the silliest". Matti P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -This is the notion that the attack on the Pentagon was carried out not by a terrorist in a hijacked 767, but by a remote-controlled drone plane or missile, packed with explosives and painted (this is priceless) in American Airlines livery to fool onlookers (who presumably cannot tell the difference between a liner and a missile or fighter), whilst the actual 767 was landed at an airport nearby having been flown OVER the Pentagon in the confusion.  The passengers were later ‘disappeared’ by the CIA. There are more holes in this ludicrous ‘explanation’ than in a standard fishing net – and yet it is passed reverently from PCT to PCT as though it is some holy gospel of truth.  In comparison to that, at least to those who have even the slightest grip on the real world, the official line, whilst perhaps open to question in some areas, seems to make far more sense. — Midjis

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Which does not mean that everything on the net or in ng’s that does not conform to your beliefs is conspiracy theory. This is true.  Yet, just because it does not conform to my beliefs does not automatically mean that it is accurate. Expressions like "conspiracy theory" appeal to the irrational side of people, and so serve only to cloud the issues. The official story of 9/11 is also a conspiracy theory: several people conspired to execute the attacks; and the story is no more than a theory because there is only precious little evidence to support it. Perhaps then I should have used the full term "paranoid conspiracy theory" – addressing those ideas that attempt to explain facts that have already been explained, but in a far more bizarre and usually convoluted manner that reassures the wannabe Fox Mulder that The Truth Really Is Out There, and that THEY do not want you to know about it.  It is really only a desire on the part of the theorist to demonstrate their ability to outwit THEM, despite all the barriers THEY supposedly put in the theorists’ way. And of all the conspiracy theories so far presented, the official story is among the silliest. Oh, by no means.  In my experience, by far the silliest theory yet put forward is by the Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists (PCTs) themselves.  This is the notion that the attack on the Pentagon was carried out not by a terrorist in a hijacked 767, but by a remote-controlled drone plane or missile, packed with explosives and painted (this is priceless) in American Airlines livery to fool onlookers (who presumably cannot tell the difference between a liner and a missile or fighter), whilst the actual 767 was landed at an airport nearby having been flown OVER the Pentagon in the confusion.  The passengers were later ‘disappeared’ by the CIA. There are more holes in this ludicrous ‘explanation’ than in a standard fishing net – and yet it is passed reverently from PCT to PCT as though it is some holy gospel of truth.  In comparison to that, at least to those who have even the slightest grip on the real world, the official line, whilst perhaps open to question in some areas, seems to make far more sense. — Midjis

But there is conclusive physical evidence that no 767 hit the Pentagon, in fact no evidence of fusilage of any plane found.. The fact that two, one piece that does not match photographed on the lawn points to conspiracy. There was no American Airlines flight 77 scheduled to fly that day. There is conclusive physical evididence that no  passenger jet plane hit the 1st tower or penetrated it. {The film shown shown the following day  9/12, was  crudely edited.  You can see it by looking for the evidence "first plane")  There is only three small holes in the building, none greater that a few feet. There was no American Airlines flight 11 scheduled to fly that day.  What few eye witnesses say a very small plane, holding no more than 10-12 seats, or "a missle with wings".  Check out the examination of that flight and the photos  on thewebfairy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The sheer volume of web articles devoted to the idea that there is ‘conclusive physical evidence’ of anything of the sort is absolutely staggering.  Particularly since there is no such evidence. Patently false. Yes, it is easy to say that, is it not?  But I would be interested to see you provide some of this supposed evidence – and try to do slightly better than the photos you directed me to in the other thread. — Midjis ~~ ama semper quisquis noces

Blow me.

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The sheer volume of web articles devoted to the idea that there is ‘conclusive physical evidence’ of anything of the sort is absolutely staggering.  Particularly since there is no such evidence. Patently false. Yes, it is easy to say that, is it not?  But I would be interested to see you provide some of this supposed evidence – and try to do slightly better than the photos you directed me to in the other thread.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img006/sweetdeal_title.jpg This one doesn’t NECCESARILY prove anything, other than that a KC-767 prototype did in fact exist, but it’s very telling nevertheless. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Midjis ~~ ama semper quisquis noces

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<SNIP The aspiration for ‘reasonable contentment’ is one we probably all share, Mike. I’m not sure it’s been the driving force behind mankind’s most impressive achievements, though.

War has usually been the driving force for man

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ROFLMAO Thanks, that made my day, Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.  Some observers speculated that the 50 free banjo minnos and $10 gift certificate provided by the manufacturer were the motivating factors in the endorsement, but team members assured the press conference that product quality and fishing results alone secured this valuable addition to the banjo minno family of users. "We’re off to Canada tomorrow", said Romczky Xudycz, team captain, "at the invitation of two guys that host a nationwide TV program on fishing.  Our fame is assured".

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If I ordered two of them would I have "Dueling Banjos"? — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh

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If I ordered two of them would I have "Dueling Banjos"?

Only if you fished them simultaneously from the same rod — Good Fishing and Tight Lines             | /              |/    (         /|     —     / | C. Michael Bullard

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how much would it be to buy one? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible! The world’s first genetic response fishing lure!    * Specially designed to trigger the genetic response that makes      fish instinctively attack and eat their pray    * The body of the minnow wiggles naturally as it swims    * Why it works: we took the hook out of the back and moved it to      the mouth    * Neutral buoyancy-so it neither floats to the surface or goes      crashing to the bottom    * Complete 110 piece fishing system    * Bonus gifts: 4 Banjo Frogs, instructional video, and lure box

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ROFLMAO Thanks, that made my day, Tim August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.

        (snip)         of course, everybody knows they won’t have a chance in hell for success until they turn to wholesale use of sinking line…         a. wayne harrison

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible!

August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.  Some observers speculated that the 50 free banjo minnos and $10 gift certificate provided by the manufacturer were the motivating factors in the endorsement, but team members assured the press conference that product quality and fishing results alone secured this valuable addition to the banjo minno family of users. "We’re off to Canada tomorrow", said Romczky Xudycz, team captain, "at the invitation of two guys that host a nationwide TV program on fishing.  Our fame is assured".

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The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible! The world’s first genetic response fishing lure!    * Specially designed to trigger the genetic response that makes      fish instinctively attack and eat their pray    * The body of the minnow wiggles naturally as it swims    * Why it works: we took the hook out of the back and moved it to      the mouth    * Neutral buoyancy-so it neither floats to the surface or goes      crashing to the bottom    * Complete 110 piece fishing system    * Bonus gifts: 4 Banjo Frogs, instructional video, and lure box

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Marcus writes: I have no idea how you reel in.  I fish mostly for bass and that’s probably what I’ll fish for with this rig, but I don’t know what I’d do if a bass took the popper.  How do you set the hook?  I assume you don’t snap the rod up the way you do with a spinning rod, so what do you do?  And reeling, do you reel the bass in by stripping line, or by using the reel?  What do you do if you’ve got a ton of line at your feet and a bass takes it?  Do you let him run while you reel it in or do you strip it in? No bait.  Just flies. Marcus

Bass have a fairly tough mouth.  Generally, move the rod through an arc parallel to the water surface while simultaneously giving a hard strip with your line hand.  Once, you feel the bass fighting and you’ve got all the slack out of the line between the rod tip and the fish. Give another firm pull and try to rip his lips off, this’ll set the hook.  The hardest part about fishing with a popper is pausing the 1/2 sec between when the bass smashes your popper and setting the hook.  If you jerk too soon you’ll pull the fly out of his mouth.  For me 99.5% of the time my reel is only used to store line.  I’ve been at this a few years and have caught a few fish, but I can count on one hand the # of times I’ve had the fight a LMB from the reel.  The Hawgs, 5 lbs and above, will sometimes pull enough line to get onto the reel but its rare.  I’ve tried to reel all the slack in just to fight fish from the reel and they throw the hook while I’m putzing around.  Poppers are usually only good early in the morning and right before sun down.  Most of my LMB are caught subsurface on Clousers, Wooly Buggers, or Dell’s Merkins (yeah, the saltwater permit fly). Good Luck. Patrick

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Dangit, forgot my real important question. HOW do you get the nail into the fly line?  I’ll be damned if I can get it to go in more than 3 mm. Marcus

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just anwser these questens. how do you cast? how do you tell what line to use? how do you real in? how do you cast back out? what bate should i use? hi from payday8887

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how do you cast? how do you tell what line to use? how do you real in? how do you cast back out? what bate should i use?

I’d like to echo these questions with some of my own.  I’m just getting into fly fishing.  I am figuring out casting.  It’s hard, but not impossible. Books are okay for this, videos better.  Ha! I know the answer to #2, use the line that matches your rod.  If you have a 7 rod, use a 7 line.  As for weight forward, double taper, etc, I dunno.  I’m using weight forward since I hear it’s easier for beginners. I have no idea how you reel in.  I fish mostly for bass and that’s probably what I’ll fish for with this rig, but I don’t know what I’d do if a bass took the popper.  How do you set the hook?  I assume you don’t snap the rod up the way you do with a spinning rod, so what do you do?  And reeling, do you reel the bass in by stripping line, or by using the reel?  What do you do if you’ve got a ton of line at your feet and a bass takes it?  Do you let him run while you reel it in or do you strip it in? No bait.  Just flies. Marcus

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Am interested in books on Atlantic Salmon fishing, and a used/ almost new 10′ single hand fly rod. I fish mostly Newfoundland and New Brunswick, so books dealing with these provinces are of special interest. Sage I know makes a 10′ rod, but am open to alternatives. Fish the Gander/Exploits in Newfoundland and the main southwest Miramichi and welcome swapping tactics, commiserating, and planning the next series of excursions.

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Am interested in books on Atlantic Salmon fishing, and a used/ almost new 10′ single hand fly rod. I fish mostly Newfoundland and New Brunswick, so books dealing with these provinces are of special interest. Sage I know

The best new books appear to be those by Gary Anderson (Montreal) and Paul Marriner (Nova Scotia.) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Am interested in books on Atlantic Salmon fishing, and a used/ almost new 10′ single hand fly rod. I fish mostly Newfoundland and New Brunswick, so books dealing with these provinces are of special interest. Sage I know The best new books appear to be those by Gary Anderson (Montreal) and Paul Marriner (Nova Scotia.)

I second that. In Gary Anderson’s last book the author actually names the rods he uses, one of which is a 10 ft. Loomis. However, I would also ask you to reconsider your choice of a 10 ft. rod. Except for roll casting and mending the extra length does not seem to offer much of an advantage. In fact, some people consider it a hindrance because of the extra weight and possibly wind resistance, as little as it may be. Mike Crosby of Halifax is probably one of the most succesful slamon fishers in Atlantic Canada. He dissuaded me from going for a 10 ft. rod but recommendeed the 9 ft. rods. Again, the choice is entirely yours. Tight lines. Tom. — Dr. Thomas Hackmann Dept. of Anaesthesia IWK

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Was wondering if anyone heard about a CD rom for Saltwater fly tying  that was coming out. I thought I heard the company that makes  Tying flies for trout Cd is making a Saltwater version.                                            appreciate any info,                                              BillSorry can’t help Bill, but while on sorta the same subject…

 Could someone advise on what might be available on CD-ROM with a fly-fishing flavor. I have heard of some, but suggestions are always welcome. Jay

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A new CD "Tying Flies for Saltwater" is being introduced at the Denver "Fly Tackle Dealers" trade show later this week. See also:

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I just recently got a 4 piece Sage 8 wt. DS rod, and it broke while I was casting. I took it back to the local fly fishing shop and they sent the top 3 pieces back to Sage. He said it would take a few weeks to get back, I was rather disatisfied. It took 4 weeks. I just got the rod back a couple of days ago. However, it turns out that Sage only sent me back 2 of the 3 sections that were sent in and I have yet to hear back from them on whether they’ve found the piece or not. I think that since it’s Sage’s fault for mislocating the piece that they should ship it to my local fly shop via priority mail, either overnight or 2 day. Is there anything that I can do to speed up the process? or anything? Thanx in advance. Tite Lines, David Dreisbach

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: I just recently got a 4 piece Sage 8 wt. DS rod, and it broke while I was : casting. : I took it back to the local fly fishing shop and they sent the top 3 : pieces back : to Sage. He said it would take a few weeks to get back, I was rather : disatisfied. : It took 4 weeks. I just got the rod back a couple of days ago. However, it : turns : out that Sage only sent me back 2 of the 3 sections that were sent in and : I : have yet to hear back from them on whether they’ve found the piece or not. : I think : that since it’s Sage’s fault for mislocating the piece that they should : ship it to : my local fly shop via priority mail, either overnight or 2 day. Is there : anything : that I can do to speed up the process? or anything? Thanx in advance. : : Tite Lines, : David Dreisbach David, Try calling Sage at 1-800-533-3004 and ask for their Customer Service Dept or have your shop call them. They have been good to me on broken prime and blems. I’ve only had one break while casting, the others while wrapping on guides. Keep your feet dry, Bob — lukn4fish Bob Madden San Jose, Ca

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Hi,  I would consider 4 weeks turnaround as extremely good service. Some of the turnaround times I’ve dealt with were not measured in weeks OR months. The loss of the section is quite sloppy however.   Graphite can not be repaired so the section you were sent was a mismatched piece, a testimonial to consistent manufacturing if it still acts the same.   Bamboo can be easily repaired in the event of a mishap but it always takes much longer to get it fixed. Good release, A.J.Thramer

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Try calling their 800 number(206)842-6608, and discuss the problem with the warranty department.  The Sage Company is a very reasonable and reputable group…they will probably take good care of you.

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I will be up in Sacramento California the first weekend of October and was wondering what the fishing possibilities are for that area.  I will only have like an afternoon available so I need a location close to city of Sacramento. Thanks for the information Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road                       fax:    415 – 528-4159 Mountain View, CA 94043                         voice:  415 – 528-2847                                                 http://home.netscape.com/                              *_              /           O/    o       <xxxXxxxxxXxxx       ~    ~  ~     ~   ~   ( ((0)) )         ~        ~   ~               0       ~     ~      ~     ~    ~

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Jerome, try the Sacramento River or the American river.  Right in town….Dean Fairfield, CA….Good luck

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Suggest you contact Kiene’s Fly Shop in Sacramento for best bet info. They may suggest you try for half-pounder steelhead on the American right in Sacramento.  Puhta Creek above Winters toward Lake Berryessa is another possibility.  Go with Kiene’s suggestions!

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I concur, there is always Putah Creek.  They were doing some work earlier this year so check with a fly shop on conditions.   — SGanz

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Could someone please provide me with the phone number of a fly fishing shop in either Bolder or Estes Park, Colorado?  I will be in boulder on business for four days next week and would like to try to fish all day Sunday.  I am tentatively planning on fishing the Big Thompson river all day Sunday. Thanks in advance. David Burba Intel Corp (602) 554-8763 (Wk)

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Dave, St Vrain Anglers, in Longmont. (303) 651-6061 They are located one block west of Main street on 4th st. (Main st is really US 287) near the corner of 4th and Terry. Another place you might consider fishing, if you have the time, is the Larimie river, south of Woods Landing.  It takes about 2 hours to get there, but there’s plenty of public water, plenty of 10 – 14 inch rainbows and brookies, and it’s a splended drive, up over Deadman Pass. —    Bill Oliver

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Dave Writes: Could someone please provide me with the phone number of a fly fishing shop in either Bolder or Estes Park, Colorado?  I will be in boulder on business for four days next week and would like to try to fish all day Sunday.  I am tentatively planning on fishing the Big Thompson river all day Sunday.

Dave the shop is called the Estes Angler: Phone 303-586-2110 The part owner is Don Darling. Last time I was up there, it was the only full service fly shop.       __*                              /                             /    From the Float Tube of Elmer Meiler                            /     Somewhere on the Pond of OZ                        0 /o                      __[]__                     (______)_____

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Could someone please provide me with the phone number of a fly fishing shop in either Bolder or Estes Park, Colorado?  I will be in boulder on business for four days next week and would like to try to fish all day Sunday.  I am tentatively planning on fishing the Big Thompson river all day Sunday. Thanks in advance. David Burba

Here’s a couple:      Front Range Anglers (Boulder) (303) 494-1375      An Orvis Shop       (Boulder) (303) 442-6204 For fishing the Thomson, I’d recommend at least talking with Dale from St. Vrain Anglers in Longmont (12-15 miles northeast of Bldr…)  That seems to be more his neck of the woods… Gotta warn you though, like Montana, the fishin’ here is extremely poor. Has something to do with Califorians……  ;-) -PWM — Nat’l Center for Atmos Research    voice:  (303) 497-1293 Scientific Computing Division    

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On Saturday Jan. 1 at noon my brother and I put up two batches of beer. One is an export pilzner and the other is a lager. 18 hours later, both fermenters took off for the moon, bubbling their little air locks so actively that it reminded us of an aquarium filter bubbler. At one point the plizner blew all the water out of its air lock and we got some yeast foam up into the base of the air lock tube.  Both had slight, minor leaks of foam at a couple of points on the bucket lid, but they seem to have sealed themselves up nicely. Whew!  I don’t know what we did to these two batches to get such active fermentation.  Maybe it was the use of dried malt extract instead of sugar or a second can of malt.  Maybe the yeast was especially active, even though we used the cheapest stuff we could find at the brew supply store [M&F Ale dried yeast, 2 packs per batch-1 pack each was rehydrated and the other packs were used dry.] Well, it’s very exciting and impressive to watch the forces of nature at work. Frank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Saturday Jan. 1 at noon my brother and I put up two batches of beer. One is an export pilzner and the other is a lager. 18 hours later, both fermenters took off for the moon, bubbling their little air locks so actively that it reminded us of an aquarium filter bubbler. At one point the plizner blew all the water out of its air lock and we got some yeast foam up into the base of the air lock tube.  Both had slight, minor leaks of foam at a couple of points on the bucket lid, but they seem to have sealed themselves up nicely. Whew!  I don’t know what we did to these two batches to get such active fermentation.  Maybe it was the use of dried malt extract instead of sugar or a second can of malt.  Maybe the yeast was especially active, even though we used the cheapest stuff we could find at the brew supply store [M&F Ale dried yeast, 2 packs per batch-1 pack each was rehydrated and the other packs were used dry.] Well, it’s very exciting and impressive to watch the forces of nature at work.

If you really want to be impressed, next time ferment in a glass carboy (with a blow-off of course). The violent churning of the beer as it ferments never ceases to amaze me. –Russ

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One is an export pilzner and the other is a lager. [M&F Ale dried yeast...]

Not to be picky, but you’re not making a lager if you’re using ale yeast… =S — =Spencer W. Thomas              |  Info Tech and Networking, B1911 CFOB, 0704    "Genome Informatician"     |  Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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