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If you bring that I’ll make sure to get a bottle of Zubrowka – Polish vodka flavored with buffalo grass.  The current stuff is actually fake, because the buffalo grass has some kind of blood thinner and the FDA banned it in 1978, but it’s still good.  My uncles used to have bottles of the real stuff and brought it out on holidays.  They’re all over 80 and still healthy as horses, so maybe it’s really good stuff<g.

I brought home a bottle of the real Zubrowka when we returned from a recent trip to Poland.  Should have brought two or three, ’cause the stuff just doesn’t last around my house.  Hands down the finest tasting vodka I’ve had. Bill

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Zubrowka is great stuff. I spent a few months studying in Krakow back before the velvet revolution

        (nifty anecdote snipped)         god, i love the smell of well-written english in the morning…         thanks, sid, from your friend in the old north state wayno

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Screw this wussy stuff and bring on the Slivovitz!!  I’ll try to get some for Penns 2002! Scott If you bring that I’ll make sure to get a bottle of Zubrowka – Polish vodka flavored with buffalo grass.  The current stuff is actually fake, because the buffalo grass has some kind of blood thinner and the FDA banned it in 1978, but it’s still good.  My uncles used to have bottles of the real stuff and brought it out on holidays.  They’re all over 80 and still healthy as horses, so maybe it’s really good stuff<g.

I have a bottle brought to me from Poland by a Polish friend I work with. VERY GOOD STUFF. M. Wm.

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If you bring that I’ll make sure to get a bottle of Zubrowka – Polish vodka flavored with buffalo grass.  

Zubrowka is great stuff. I spent a few months studying in Krakow back before the velvet revolution and can confidently say that one of the few joys of soviet style socialism is plenty of cheap booze. I brought 200 USD to last the entire four months I was there and lived like a king. Well, a king who wipes his ass with newspaper, anyway. TP was tough to come by at the time. And, well, you start to see why it’s a good thing that booze was cheap in soviet socialist economies . My roommate at the time had just arrived from West Berlin where he’d been living in luxury accommodations while studying there. He used to wake up every morning, look out the window and remark with utter defeat, "Well, another shitty day in Poland." The poor guy was so stopped up from the adjustment to Poland’s somewhat challenging diet that after the first five days, he still hadn’t taken a crap. Sympathetic lot that we were, the rest of us in the program started a pool on when he’d eventually find relief, eschewing normal conversation with the poor bastard and instead starting every interaction with completely unveiled references to his predicament. "So, Mike…taken a crap yet?" was a popular starter and the hangdog look that would inevitably accompany the ensuing despondent shake of his head was enough to make you almost feel sorry for the guy. Unless, of course, it was your day in the pool. Poland’s a tough place…especially when there’s money at stake . Anyway, that’s a bit of a digression, but thanks for the memories. Maybe I’ll hit the ole liquor store tomorrow and see if I can’t scare up a bottle of the old Zubrowka. Or just take a crap and think about Mike. Too close to call, really. dziekuje bardzo, – sid

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Screw this wussy stuff and bring on the Slivovitz!!  I’ll try to get some for Penns 2002! Scott If you bring that I’ll make sure to get a bottle of Zubrowka – Polish vodka flavored with buffalo grass.  The current stuff is actually fake, because the buffalo grass has some kind of blood thinner and the FDA banned it in 1978, but it’s still good.  My uncles used to have bottles of the real stuff and brought it out on holidays.  They’re all over 80 and still healthy as horses, so maybe it’s really good stuff<g.

Sounds like a deal.  There’s a Slovenian on my floor–I’ll start working on him for a bottle. This Clave might take on an Eastern European flavor.  Maybe a nice flanken would serve as well. Scott

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Screw this wussy stuff and bring on the Slivovitz!!  I’ll try to get some for Penns 2002! Scott

Plum Vodka from one of the slavic countries Czechoslovakia? Poland? national drink. There is a plum brandy that is good too. — Don Thompson Another Thompson Scion

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Screw this wussy stuff and bring on the Slivovitz!!  I’ll try to get some for Penns 2002! Scott

If you bring that I’ll make sure to get a bottle of Zubrowka – Polish vodka flavored with buffalo grass.  The current stuff is actually fake, because the buffalo grass has some kind of blood thinner and the FDA banned it in 1978, but it’s still good.  My uncles used to have bottles of the real stuff and brought it out on holidays.  They’re all over 80 and still healthy as horses, so maybe it’s really good stuff<g.

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<good TR snipped some sort of Scandinavian drink made from potatoes called (it sounded like at least) Aqua Feet

FYI: http://www.britannica.com/seo/a/aquavit/

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  some sort of Scandinavian drink made from potatoes called (it sounded like at least) Aqua Feet FYI: http://www.britannica.com/seo/a/aquavit/

Thanks for the link Stan.  I still think my description and the name of Aquafeet should be used despite what the encyclopedia has to say about it. <g Lou gave some interesting history about this drink.  Apparently crossing the equator makes it taste better so the good stuff is stamped with when and on what boat it crossed the equator.  If nothing else, it made the drink more interesting because it had a history. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – some sort of Scandinavian drink made from potatoes called (it sounded like at least) Aqua Feet FYI: http://www.britannica.com/seo/a/aquavit/ Thanks for the link Stan.  I still think my description and the name of Aquafeet should be used despite what the encyclopedia has to say about it. <g Lou gave some interesting history about this drink.  Apparently crossing the equator makes it taste better so the good stuff is stamped with when and on what boat it crossed the equator.  If nothing else, it made the drink more interesting because it had a history. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

Screw this wussy stuff and bring on the Slivovitz!!  I’ll try to get some for Penns 2002! Scott

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Lou Teletski and his friends (Jim, Tom and Eric) have been out in Yellowstone for a week and are leaving today.  I finally got my life caught back up from the Conclave and was able to swing over there yesterday to fish with Lou and his friends.  We met at his hotel room in Gardiner early yesterday morning and decided to go fish some water in the Park that they have never done well on.  This stretch of river can be difficult to fish for a variety of reasons, especially when the fish are uncooperative.  I wasn’t sure what to expect for today.  Hayden Valley was socked in with smoke from a couple of fires in the area.  Depending on which way the wind blew, the smoke would either come in or blow it out and for most of the day we were fortunate to be without. We arrived on the water a little after 9 and were all on the water around 9:40 or so.  There were some Gray Drake spinners around, but very few fish were rising.  Before getting on the water I had given everybody a short description of what had worked for us during the Clave as well as how the Troutmaster had tackled this stretch of water.  We spread out and began fishing.  I started fishing a large stonefly nymph with a prince dropper and fished the deep slots.  I came into the first fish and radioed the group of what the fish had taken.  I caught another fish shortly thereafter and again radioed the group that the fish had again taken the prince nymph. Eric was next into fish on some sort of peacock bodied fly that closely resembled a prince.  It was nice watching Eric catch fish because he enjoyed each one as if it was his first fish.  A few fish started rising in Troutmaster Willi’s hole and I had Lou come over and fish it with me.  I switched over to an Adams and caught another fish.  Jim and Eric caught a couple of fish upstream of us.  Lou didn’t have much luck in Willi’s hole and I eventually worked my way back up to the vehicle to get a quick snack and left Lou down there to catch some fish. After watching the buffalo walked down the road and feeding some birds, Lou and I went and fished upstream of where we started.  A meadow starts in this section and there is a big cove with slow moving water.  The cove is sort of shallow and has a large flat that runs along a very deep section.  We worked our way upstream fishing this deep section and neither of us had any luck. I walked quite a ways upstream trying to find some better water, but it was all the same for as far as I could see. The water in this area would be very good to fish from a float tube because it is more like fishing a lake although it is against the rules to fish it from a float tube.  There is hardly any current and even the very structure is very lake-like.  I walked back down to Lou and we decided to work our back and fish the area we had fished earlier in the morning.  While we were going fishless, the radio crackled with news that the other three guys were getting into fish downstream. As we walked along the bank, we spotted three fish hanging out in the cove close to the bank.  Lou eventually enticed one to the surface with a Gray Wulff.  The fish had taken up positions and began feeding in an area where the cove ends and the river narrows causing the water to move a little faster.  Lou went over and began fishing while I sat on the bank and watched Lou in action.  He caught another fish in this area and the fish started rising more profusely than before.  I started fishing downstream to the fish that were hanging out on the far side of the current and was unable to get a good drift so I changed sides.  Lou in the meantime is catching fish mind you.  I worked my way downstream to an area that allowed me to cross the river and began to hear thunder in the distance.  The wind was coming in fits and during the calm periods the fish would start rising. After crossing the river I saw a bunch of fish on the flats and started fishing for these.  The fish were not taking dries however and I could see them taking nymphs of some sort.  They just swam a couple feet to either side very nonchalantly and opened their mouths to these drifting morsels of food.  I added a small pheasant tail dropper and started fishing the Adams and the dropper.  I didn’t have much luck with the Adams so switched over to a Gray Wulff with the PT dropper.  The wind just happened to pick up and made casting next to impossible where I was at and the thunder started booming very close to our location.  Jim, Tom and Eric packed up and headed upstream while Lou crossed the river. As Lou and I were discussing leaving, a large cutthroat came up and hammered my Gray Wulff.  The fish dove into a weed bed and I lost the fish.  I put a couple more casts out and had another nice sized fish take the PT dropper. This fish ran for the rocks and I could feel the leader ticking up against the rocks before the tippet finally gave out.  We decided to get off the water because of the weather and headed up to the vehicles.  By the time we had put away our gear, the storm had passed and a large group of Gray Drakes were hovering over the vehicle.  We decided to head back to Gardiner for dinner and call it a day.  They still had some packing to do after all. The results were we caught 17 fish with none under 16" between the five of us.  I don’t think anyone caught any 16" fish either.  Most fish seemed to hover around the 17" to 18" range with a few larger that pushed into the  20+" range.  Unfortunately, Tom never did get a fish.  This river has a way of keeping at least one person in the group very humble and my last trip to this river had left me skunked. After a great meal and good conversation we headed back to their room for some coffee and a special drink that Lou had brought.  I say special not because it was so tasty, but because it was from Sweden I think.  It is supposedly some sort of Scandinavian drink made from potatoes called (it sounded like at least) Aqua Feet and that is how it should be said and written IMO because it tasted like someone had mashed up rotten oranges with dirty feet.  We talked for quite some time before I decided it was getting late and I still had a decent drive ahead of me so I should depart.  I had a wonderful time with these guys and was thankful that I had the opportunity to meet Lou.  Another good example as to the quality of the people you meet by way of ROFF.  I couldn’t have asked for a better day or better company other than getting Tom into some fish. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za Cheers Ari

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za

Rugby, braaivleis, sunny skies and Chevrolet…. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Try hitting a beef shank bone if you want to hear shear pins in action… /daytripper (in a winter wonder land)

Here in Wisconsin we generally come up on the cow from behind.  Once the auger makes contact with the tail the cow invariably moves off  the driveway, post haste.  No need to hit ‘em in the shanks! Wolfgang in lala land

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Fortenberry writes: Oh holey moley, THIS is what passes for trash talk amongst the geriatric set. One-upmanship over snowblowers fer cryin’ out loud. I’m still shovelin’ and still castin’ that 9′ bamboo. — Ken Fortenberry- neener neener neener

Just took the new car with the 255/45 17inch performance tires to the super market.  It does not like snow!!!  d;0) Bought some strawberries and water melon. Have lots of martini fixins. Everything is copesetic. Dave L.

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Just took the new car with the 255/45 17inch performance tires to the super market.  It does not like snow!!!  d;0) Bought some strawberries and water melon. Have lots of martini fixins. Everything is copesetic. Dave L.

Wha’d ya buy?  (got check out what I’m likely gonna be chasin’) Peter

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Peter Charles: Wha’d ya buy?  (got check out what I’m likely gonna be chasin’)

A 2000 Audi A6 with the 300bhp 4.2L engine.  Goes like stink, but not in the snow with 255/40-17 Y rated tires.  It’s actually scarey out there.  Jo’s got the farm implement. Dave L.

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[a lot of snow whining snipped] The get a bit of snow and listen to the wusses. Nannook Peter Peter

Hey, now, don’t mistake my post for a complaint. Being snowbound gives me just the excuse I needed to work on the fly rod I’m building (since I’m not a fly tier, what else am I gonna do?). It is pretty amazing that we’ve had 17" of snowfall in the last 18 hours or so in Cary, NC. I grew up in Utah and can’t remember ever having that much snowfall in one day. Pass the back bacon, eh. –Steve

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A 2000 Audi A6 with the 300bhp 4.2L engine.  Goes like stink, but not in the snow with 255/40-17 Y rated tires.  It’s actually scarey out there.  Jo’s got the farm implement. Dave L.

AWESOME – you will be bringing that up here won’t you <GGGGGGGG Peter

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Just cleared six inches off the driveway.  My 15 year old Dukakus snowblower is still going strong. Hah! That’s a baby! My 30" 8hp Ariens was built in 1967. Bought it for $75 ten years ago, dropped all of $30 into it for a new carb, plug, and traction lock pin, and it starts first pull every time. They built this one to outlast a couple of owners ;^) Oh holey moley, THIS is what passes for trash talk amongst the geriatric set. One-upmanship over snowblowers fer cryin’ out loud.

Well, heck, what do you expect us geriatrics to be doing, anyway? We can’t even FIND open water under all this white stuff, never mind fish it! And actually, I thought that was one-downmanship, but what do I know. I was responding to someone who bought a $40000 accident-waiting-to-happen ;^) I’m still shovelin’ and still castin’ that 9′ bamboo.

If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow)

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Day Tripper: If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow)

Farther. Dave, duckin’ in the snow five miles south of Dave. Dave L.

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Day Tripper: If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow) Farther.

Oh well. I can spell just fine, but I need a context-checker! Dave, duckin’ in the snow five miles south of Dave.

I can still SEEEEEEE you! We didn’t get THAT much snow ;^) /daytripper (now comes the freezin’ rain…)

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Out here in the beautiful Western end of Massachusetts, I just finished clearing the first 6" and it’s now turning to sleet.  Oh joy. Hope it clears up before I drive down to Somerset, NJ Friday.  Picture on the front page of the local paper is a snow plow clearing snow off one of the local ponds – time for skating, not fishing.  A friend tells me he caught a good sized pickerel through the ice on a black wooly bugger Saturday… –Stan

You and me both Stan… I plan on coming out on Friday to view with out the crowds and then again on Saturday to meet with abunch of others on I’ll be driving back and forth though… It was sleeting today in So.Jersey but the main roads were in good shape. Plan on a long drive. Most of the speed limits are heavily reduced. — Michael Era

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Need info on how to access the river below Brockaway Mills.

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Rich, I have never fished it myself…my buddies tell me below Brockway is better for smallies later in the season than trout.  That  not withstanding , the best advice for access is to call the warden for that area.  His name is Philip Howland and his number is 802 885 4975.  I am certain he can tell the easiest and most productive area in which to access.  Have fun. James James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Hi, My sister lives near Ascutney, and I fished the Williams a year ago. We went in near the power plant (dam) at Herrick’s Cove (I think that’s the name), and since the power co. had been letting no water out yet, it was high and quite good fishing. – went all over the cove area, and actually you could go right to the Conneticutt. Directions – take #5 hwy to the jct with 103, sign says NE power picnic area – boat access is there. If I remeber correctly, the rest of the water between the Mill and the cove was a series of small flatwater pools with lots of shallows in between – but then I was there in August ! Bill Need info on how to access the river below Brockaway Mills.

– Bill Curry Tight Lines Guide Service Lockeport, Nova Scotia, Canada http://www.tightlines.ns.ca

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Anyone have any current information on the streams of PA. If you do please let me know! What I am look for is cool water and maybe some trout. I know it is tough this time of year. Thank in advance Roger Grant

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If it doesn’t rain soon we’re not going to have ANY water in PA, cold or otherwise.  But for stream conditions and hatch advice in southeast PA, especially Cumberland County (Yellow Breeches, Letort, etc), I suggest you call Cold Spring Anglers at 717 245-2646. They’re very good and run a first rate shop.

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How small a stream are you comfortable on??  E-mail me.. Despite the pontifications of the westerners here, not all the wild trout are west of the Mississippi…:)

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Anyone have any current information on the streams of PA. If you do please let me know! What I am look for is cool water and maybe some trout. I know it is tough this time of year. Thank in advance Roger Grant

Roger: As others may note, all waters are low and warm – we need some of Hurricane Danny’s rain.  What part of the state will you be in? Mark Faulkner

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have any current information on the streams of PA. If you do please let me know! What I am look for is cool water and maybe some trout. I know it is tough this time of year. Thank in advance Roger Grant Roger: As others may note, all waters are low and warm – we need some of Hurricane Danny’s rain.  What part of the state will you be in?

Hi Mark; I am from Ohio and travel is a consideration but not always. Roger

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How small of a stream are you comfortable on.. This makes a difference as well…:)

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Anyone have any current information on the streams of PA.

If you do please let me know! What I am look for is cool water and maybe some trout. I

know it is tough this time of year. Thank in advance Roger Grant

My Brother in Law says there’s been NO rain for weeks and streams flows are VERY low. He’s been mountain biking instead. Fishing’s great here in Slovenia! Mike

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It depends on what part of PA you’re interested in but, for the southeast, especially Cumberland county (Yellow Breeches, Letort, etc), I suggest you call Cold Spring Anglers at 717 245-2646.  They have the latest stream and hatch information and run a very nice shop as well.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have any current information on the streams of PA. If you do please let me know! What I am look for is cool water and maybe some trout. I know it is tough this time of year. Thank in advance Roger Grant Roger: As others may note, all waters are low and warm – we need some of Hurricane Danny’s rain.  What part of the state will you be in? Hi Mark; I am from Ohio and travel is a consideration but not always. Roger

Central Pa still has some good fishing in its Limestoners dispite the lack of rain.  Spring Cr. Big Fishing Cr,  Spruce Cr., all are still fishing good and producing some nice fish.  I guide on these streams and have been doing quite well.  If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me and I do what I can to help.  Pete (Serene Fly-Fishing Adventures)  <’{{{,<

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If it doesn’t rain soon we’re not going to have ANY water in PA, cold or otherwise.  But for stream conditions and hatch advice in southeast PA, especially Cumberland County (Yellow Breeches, Letort, etc), I suggest

I suggest calling Bill or Dusty at Yellow Breeches Outfitters for this area – They are right on the Yellow Breeches in Boiling Springs.  The Breeches can still be productive early morning and I suspect these recent rains will extend time on stream (planning on going this evening).  Yellow Breeches Outfitters # is 717-258-6752

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Over the summer; I found numerous bottles of a floatant, named Gink, along the streams I fish. Do you think people are just losing these, and should purchase those cute little bottle holders… or is this stuff, so bad..people are just throwing it away?  How bad can this stuff be, to cause normal people to turn into common criminals and LITTER!! What if beavers found this stuff and ate it, would it kill them? What if T-Bone found this stuff floating in his Homebrew, would it kill him? How come this stuff is clear? Shouldn’t in come in the Borger Color system colors?  No, that would be 106 bottles..that would be stupid! Any info would be helpful… and No, Rick, I’m not a blonde…..just too much Homemade potato vodka before steelheading….. Hugs & Kisses, …..N….;)

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: I apologize for my ignorance.  What is Albolene? : : Al Beatty mentioned this stuff recently too, including the name : of a drug store cosmetic that he uses for a floatant.   : : Breaker breaker Al, could you give us the name again? : : Thanks…Ross Well if Al doesn’t show up, and I’ll bet he will, I state that he put me on to Albolene (spelling off the jar) several months ago. I went right over to Long’s drugstore and bought some for under $5. It really works! Keep em dry, Bob — lukn4fish Bob Madden San Jose, Ca

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: An odorless, sort-of waxy, facial cream used to float flies. Probably : gonna be tough to find now that the Gink boycott is on. In response to the international Gink boycott and in part because I’ve learned about Albolene, I am now presenting to roff subscribers (for a limited time only) a new product I call Fink-roff.  It does a great job floating flies (or so I’ve been told) and can double as a hand cleanser in a pinch. Please excuse this commercial post, while I sit back and let those profits roll in! — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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I apologize for my ignorance.  What is Albolene?

Al Beatty mentioned this stuff recently too, including the name of a drug store cosmetic that he uses for a floatant.   Breaker breaker Al, could you give us the name again? Thanks…Ross

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : An odorless, sort-of waxy, facial cream used to float flies. Probably : gonna be tough to find now that the Gink boycott is on. In response to the international Gink boycott and in part because I’ve learned about Albolene, I am now presenting to roff subscribers (for a limited time only) a new product I call Fink-roff.  It does a great job floating flies (or so I’ve been told) and can double as a hand cleanser in a pinch. Please excuse this commercial post, while I sit back and let those profits roll in! — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

So, Rick.  When the profits start piling up, do you suppose you’ll be able to float me a loan? John

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In response to the international Gink boycott….

Gink boycott?????

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In response to the international Gink boycott…. Gink boycott?????

The Gink Boycott will NEVER float ! TimW

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. . .Isn’t Gink just Albolene put into tiny jars with the decimal point on the price tag moved one notch to the right?    I guess this would be like telling the Africans that the Coke bottle that fell out of the sky was simply a device built to hold a soda.    Sorry Nancy, T-Bone and George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Over the summer; I found numerous bottles of a floatant, named Gink, along the streams I fish. Do you think people are just losing these, and should purchase those cute little bottle holders… or is this stuff, so bad..people are just throwing it away? I’m responsible for a whole bunch of these.  I hate to wear a life jacket.  Rather, I just rub Gink all over me before I go fishing.  It works swell and when you fall in, you float like a cork.  Saves me from carrying a rain jacket, too. Isn’t this the same stuff that all those English Channel swimmers used to grease up with?   How about a trip out to Montauk, Tim?  You gink up and we’ll do a little trollin’, eh chiefy? I always seem to lose the cap off the gink jar when it’s about half full and I can’t squeeze any more out and have to resort to scooping it out with a pine needle.   Ross

– Ralph & Lisa Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com

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: . . .Isn’t Gink just Albolene put into tiny jars with the decimal point on : the price tag moved one notch to the right? I apologize for my ignorance.  What is Albolene? — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: . . .Isn’t Gink just Albolene put into tiny jars with the decimal point on : the price tag moved one notch to the right? I apologize for my ignorance.  What is Albolene? — Rick

Rick, Albolene (sp?) cream is nothing more than a waterless hand cleaner that you can pick up at most drug stores!  The reason many people use it is because it is chusk full of silicone.  It does have a tendency; however, to produce that nasty little "oil ring" on the water for the first few casts.  And because it comes in a jar, you have to put it in something to carry in your vest.  Most people I knew use a film canister.  This is fine, until this product heats up, builds pressure in the canister, and pops the top off!  Everyone I know that uses this stuff (me included) has a nice big stain on their vest (T-Bone would be proud!) from this stuff melting out!  It is very inexpensive, and one jar could last you a lifetime. -Mike

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What is Albolene?

About $10 a jar for 5 lifetime supplies. Want some? An odorless, sort-of waxy, facial cream used to float flies. Probably gonna be tough to find now that the Gink boycott is on. John Nesselrode Shawnee, KS

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I’ve found that a well tied dry fly will float after making two or three false casts, so in most cases we can forget the floatant. Who needs that silicone mess and exploding Gink bottles?

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: I always seem to lose the cap off the gink jar when it’s about half full : and I can’t squeeze any more out and have to resort to scooping it out : with a pine needle.   That is because the stuff is cold. It flows freely in warm weather. I just put it in a pocket where it can be warmed by body heat. Jon Porter

That’s for sure. I was out on the last weekend for trout here (boo-hoo) and it was sorta cold. I couldn’t get the Gink to flow so I unscrewed the top and tried to get the mass to come up to the mouth of the bottle to dab off a little with my finger. Well, it wouldn’t move so I squeezed harder. When it moved the entire remaining half bottle fired off (nearly took off my head). There was an eerie stillness, as if the very wind had stopped, as the Gink slug described a perfect parabolic arc against the autumn sky and shimmering aspen leaf background. Landed about 20 feet away. Fortunately I was in a float tube and made the retrieve. Gink shot, corner pocket. Jon

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: I always seem to lose the cap off the gink jar when it’s about half full : and I can’t squeeze any more out and have to resort to scooping it out : with a pine needle.   That is because the stuff is cold. It flows freely in warm weather. I just put it in a pocket where it can be warmed by body heat. Jon Porter

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: Isn’t this the same stuff that all those English Channel swimmers used : to grease up with?   How about a trip out to Montauk, Tim?  You gink : up and we’ll do a little trollin’, eh chiefy? Speaking of which: Did anyone else notice Richard Dreyfus smearing that little boat they were on with a slimy, colorless liquid?  He alone used over three thousand bottles… And Nancy, I’m hoping you are a redhead.  Or bald. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Over the summer; I found numerous bottles of a floatant, named Gink, along the streams I fish. Do you think people are just losing these, and should purchase those cute little bottle holders… or is this stuff, so bad..people are just throwing it away?

Nancy, I share your concerns. I’m responsible for a whole bunch of these.  I hate to wear a life jacket.  Rather, I just rub Gink all over me before I go fishing.  It works swell and when you fall in, you float like a cork.  Saves me from carrying a rain jacket, too. You should know also, that guides all over have recognized the deodorant qualities of George’s fine product and use it before going to dinner after an all day July float.  The buzz phrase around here is: "Use Gink, Don’t Stink" . I’ve even used the stuff as a marital lubricant. It enhances the experience (and can actually save your life) when used in conjunction with a leaky waterbed. Keep your tips up, TimW How bad can this stuff be, to cause normal people to turn into common criminals and LITTER!!

The problem is you *can’t* throw the stuff away properly, it keeps floating to the top of the trash can and falls out.  This has prompted Senate Bill #2469 – Gink Disposal Budget for the Next Millenium What if the beavers found this stuff and ate it, would it kill them?

No, but Wally would use it as palm oil. What if T-Bone found this stuff floating in his Homebrew, would it kill him?

I have actually brewed a delightful "Marzen Ginken Weisen" adding it to the mash just before sparging. I have not tried smoking it. How come this stuff is clear? Shouldn’t in come in the Borger Color system colors?  No, that would be 106 bottles..that would be stupid!

Not really, Gary is now marketing a series of Gink Color Dyes, the "GCD-BCS". Any info would be helpful…

Any info ? helpful ? in this newsgroup ? C’mon ! and No, Rick, I’m not a blonde…..

You COULD be a blonde Nancy, just apply gink three times a day… just too much Homemade potato vodka

Impossible.   You’re still posting aren’t you ? 8*) before steelheading…..

How many of those ErieHeads did you land anyway ? TimW

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Over the summer; I found numerous bottles of a floatant, named Gink, along the streams I fish. Do you think people are just losing these, and should purchase those cute little bottle holders… or is this stuff, so bad..people are just throwing it away? I’m responsible for a whole bunch of these.  I hate to wear a life jacket.  Rather, I just rub Gink all over me before I go fishing.  It works swell and when you fall in, you float like a cork.  Saves me from carrying a rain jacket, too.

Isn’t this the same stuff that all those English Channel swimmers used to grease up with?   How about a trip out to Montauk, Tim?  You gink up and we’ll do a little trollin’, eh chiefy? I always seem to lose the cap off the gink jar when it’s about half full and I can’t squeeze any more out and have to resort to scooping it out with a pine needle.   Ross

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Does anybody have any data or marketing research on the percentage of all anglers who fly fish (in the North East Region).  Doing a marketing project at school.  e-mail preferred. Thanks -Paul

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Does anybody have any data or marketing research on the percentage of all anglers who fly fish (in the North East Region).  Doing a marketing project at school.  e-mail preferred. Thanks -Paul

Paul there was a survey done by some one last summer, who funded I’m not sure. It might be the FFF or AFTMA….the results of the survey were ( are ) very expensive. Might e-mail Al Beatty for some info on this one….Sort thru the mailing lists in this news group as Al often answers alot of ques for folks.  I did get some demo info from Fly Rod and Reel Mag. Their surveys indicate that the ave age is 45, male, makes 45k+, has like 3 rods, 2 reels and has an education of some college as a minimum. Some thing like 50-60% have a college and professional degree. The stats are a marketers dream come true… Big bucks, educated and all of that. I’d write the ad dept at Rod and Reel for a copy. Most popular fish???? Wrong not trout…its bluegill surprise! Good luck.

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There are 64 flyfishermen!

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None. Just a million pathological liars, myself included Dale

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Jay, One of the problems you might be having is that the mailing list stuff is all taken care of at TU National.  I’d try a call to national TU to see if they have you on the mailing list of the local chapter.  I don’t think many local chapters maintain there own lists.  They use labels they get from national.  I know that this problem has occurred with my local chapter.  Dave

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Such is the way of small groups. "That which belongs to all is cared for by none" I have been involved in a number of small groups (industry, alumni, etc.). Everyone wants more out of the group and have plenty of suggestions but nobody wants to do the work. In the rare insrtance that you do get a volunteer you’ve got a pretty high fallout rate.  I would assume different TU chapters have varying levels of activity depending on the amount of effort put in by the people. You’re looking at the most consistent method I’ve found for communicating with individuals about fly fishing.

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  I’m from Arizona and have had trouble on where to fish,when to fish,and what to use.  Sorry about the stupid questions, but I’m new to this sport.

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  I’m from Arizona and have had trouble on where to fish,when to fish,and what to use.  Sorry about the stupid questions, but I’m new to this sport.

Dear Filthyfly:         This is not a stupid.  The best advise I can give you is find a local flyfishing shop in your area.  Give them a call, get to know them.  If there isn’t a local speciality shop find the nearest sporting goods store.  They should have someone who can help you find areas to fish in and be able to give you information on what to use.  If neither of these is an option, there are listings in the back of the flyfishing magaqines for outfitters and shops. Many of these offer a toll free 800 service.  Give them a call and see if they can steer you in the right direction.           Good luck.  If you ever get up to Utah and are looking for places to go drop me a line and we’ll get you to some great places.   Tight Lines-Steve

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  I’m from Arizona and have had trouble on where to fish,when to fish,and what to use.  Sorry about the stupid questions, but I’m =

new to this sport. Dear Flyfisherman, I’d also look up a local chapter of Trout Unlimited in your area.  I am vice Pres of the Rapidan Chapter in Virginia and there is de= cades of experience in any chapter that will be absolutely free.  If you decide to join it will only cost $20/yr.   Besides teaching you how to fish they will also help you to understand how to protect and preserve what we have. Bill Althoff Flyfishing is Life; the rest is just details.

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  I’m from Arizona and have had trouble on where to fish,when to fish,and what to use.  Sorry about the stupid questions, but I’m = new to this sport. Dear Flyfisherman, I’d also look up a local chapter of Trout Unlimited in your area.  I am vice Pres of the Rapidan Chapter in Virginia and there is de= cades of experience in any chapter that will be absolutely free.  If you decide to join it will only cost $20/yr.   Besides teaching you how to fish they will also help you to understand how to protect and preserve what we have. Bill Althoff Flyfishing is Life; the rest is just details.

    Maybe I’m out of line here, but I am a little curious as to what I should expect from TU. I joined my local chapter about six months ago with high expectations of getting in touch with many fellow ffishers in my area.Looking forward to meetings and was even interested in attending weekend river restoration retreats.   Short of receiving a couple of old issues of the local newsletter which I had to call and request, and getting the usual package which contained the LOGO sticker (which BTW has since deteriated from my Suburban’s window), I have heard nothing. Now, I don’t expect any hand holding or certainly would not appreiciate a barage a calls, however, I would think that some sort of communication from my chapter regarding monthly meetings or such. Am I whinning to much???                                                             Jay

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    Maybe I’m out of line here, but I am a little curious as to what I should expect from TU. I joined my local chapter about six months ago with high expectations of getting in touch with many fellow ffishers in my area.Looking forward to meetings and was even interested in attending weekend river restoration retreats.  Short of receiving a couple of old issues of the local newsletter which I had to call and request, and getting the usual package which contained the LOGO sticker (which BTW has since deteriated from my Suburban’s window), I have heard nothing. Now, I don’t expect any hand holding or certainly would not appreiciate a barage a calls, however, I would think that some sort of communication from my chapter regarding monthly meetings or such. Am I whinning to much???

Jay, Various chapters of TU have differing amounts of activity, but TU’s forte has always been on a national basis.  That’s the biggest reason that Caltrout became such a force in California.  Most of the $ for TU from CA were leaving the state for projects elsewhere (national).  Caltrout spends all in CA and nowhere else (regional or local).  We need both types of organisations.  If your chapter is not active enough for your tastes, either get involved by finding projects (such as stream restoration) that need doing and start pushing from the bottom to get it started (I should warn you that you will probably be put in charge of such a project when you do) or contact the Federation of Fly Fishers and see if there is an affiliated club in the area.  Most of the fly fishing clubs in my area are affiliated with the FFF and often sponsor local projects.  Fly fishing clubs are great repositories of skill, knowledge, and bullshit.  They religiously have monthly meetings and feature skills, projects, fishouts, etc.  Give it a shot.                                                            Dan                                                        Dan Gracia                                                        Schools Coordinator                                                        Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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I have an upcoming business trip to Ann Arbor, MI (May 22-26) and am wondering whether to bring the rod…..   Can anybody on the net suggest some nice trout waters within a 2 hours radius of Ann Arbor?  (Thanks, but the Au Sable is too far away, some other time perhaps) Perhaps also a Ann Arbor fly shop? If I get some suggestions, I’d stay an extra day…. Please email, thanks, -PWM Nat’l Center for Atmos Research    voice:  (303) 497-1293 Scientific Computing Division     Consulting Office

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Fly-sishing for trout is out if you are looking to fish in a two hour radius of Ann Arbor.   If you want to fly-fish for Bass in the huron River, call MacGregor’s out doors on Mainstreet (an Orvis shop) and ask for Mac Richardson. He and his son know where to fish for small mouth on the Huron.   GaryLarry

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Does anyone know about fishing in Western Mass., particularity around Turners Falls/Greenfield and/or in Lake Quabin? I’m interested in knowing about bass, trout and/or what-ever-there-is fishing. I also love flyfishing.                  Thank you in advance!

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Does anyone know about fishing in Western Mass., particularity around Turners Falls/Greenfield and/or in Lake Quabin? I’m interested in knowing about bass, trout and/or what-ever-there-is fishing. I also love flyfishing.                 Thank you in advance!

I fished Quabin resevoir with my dad in the 60’s.  Most folks fished for lake trout.  I liked to cast spoons or spinners from shore and sometimes hooked some nice sized rainbows (19 inches).  I also liked to head up that creek which was full of brook trout at that time.  Since then I have heard that atlantic salmon have been introduced and have produced some excellent fishing.  There was a river called the icy river I think that was popular for trout.  Can’t remember where it was. Andy S.

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