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Chaps             I live in the Aylesbury  /  Oxford area, and I’m seeking people’s recommendations re small still waters in this area. I have visited but not fished Vicarage Spinney and Barnes Lakes.  I have fished Church Hill and Lakeside, as well as Alders Farm. I DON"T WANT TO HEAR PEOPLE"S OPINIONS RE CONCRETE BOWL RESERVOIRES, thank you My favourite water is John O’Gaunt in Hampshire, but it’s too far aay for a day trip. I’d like to find something like JOG, but closer to home, say 30-40 mins drive max,  I want to fish, not drive, as a hobby. If anyone can recommend a good venue, I’d be very grateful, and maybe even see you there sometime. There are too few good venues around here, and I only have "Trout Fisherman" guide to go by, which is OK but a bit limited. So ??  please come back to me if you’ve a secret haunt you’d be willing to share, best wishes,

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On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g

At least Dave doesn’t have a net to rig up to his back And Willi, to answer your question from a another thread (which doesn’t appear on this server) i haven’t been back to the urban spring creek. I have been fishing instead on the rio grande just 30 miles upstream from my house where there’s been reports of monster browns.  These reports have left me skeptical because i’ve tried every trick in the book up there with no success until sunday.  Check this link out.  Scroll down to the bottom of "catches of the week" http://www.abqjournal.com/go/fishingline.htm The fish was more like 21" and 3.5 lbs, but still bigger than anything I’ve caught in the San Juan, or anywhere else for that matter.  The Rio Grande in that area is what i imagine steelheading to be like, ie not many strikes, but when you get a hookup, it’s a good one.  The report also says "tiny silver fly".  They asked me to show them the fly i caught the fish with.  It was a lite brite prince, size 18, tied real skinny and buggy. bruce h Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. I think that’s especially true if you’re close enough to some water to able to fish when you can get away for only an hour or two. Spending twenty minutes getting dressed and undressed doesn’t work too well. One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

– Trust my experience.  Hip Waders come in only one size.  A quarter inch too short.  Stick to the wet wading. IF you do get the hips waders, make sure they have felt bottoms with studs.   (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water. When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

Yes there is.  Simple = good, IMO. I love my stockingfoot hip boots.  They take up practically no room, are lightweight, cooler than chest waders and suffice rather nicely on most of the creeks I fish.  I’ve been a hip wader user for many years, though, so I’m used to being careful about my depth on bigger water. I’ve also done lots of wet wading in sandals and shorts with minimal tackle–nothing more than I could fit into a pocket or two. Think minimalist.  Consider everything other than rod, reel, leader, tippet, flies and flask as luxury items.  Rubber boots and a net sounds like a deal to me.  Don’t forget your Ketchum Release <g. Tom G minimalist angler on numerous occassions

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And Willi, to answer your question from a another thread (which doesn’t appear on this server) i haven’t been back to the urban spring creek. I have been fishing instead on the rio grande just 30 miles upstream from my house where there’s been reports of monster browns.  These reports have left me skeptical because i’ve tried every trick in the book up there with no success until sunday.  Check this link out.  Scroll down to the bottom of "catches of the week" http://www.abqjournal.com/go/fishingline.htm The fish was more like 21" and 3.5 lbs, but still bigger than anything I’ve caught in the San Juan, or anywhere else for that matter.  The Rio Grande in that area is what i imagine steelheading to be like, ie not many strikes, but when you get a hookup, it’s a good one.  The report also says "tiny silver fly".  They asked me to show them the fly i caught the fish with.  It was a lite brite prince, size 18, tied real skinny and buggy.

Nicw fish. Some details.  How big of a river is it?  Was it low and clear this time of year? Is this down stream from the canyon? Have you fished the canyon? Willi

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Thanks Warren,

No problem. When does runoff start up there?

Sometime in May is normal.  It depends on what river as to what part of May.  The tailwaters dirty the slowest, and the Yellowstone seems to get it first if I remember correctly.  The Gallatin goes next and then the Madison. — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server. Bruce, Send me your email address. your post, I doubt he would have been able to send his email to you <g

Thanks Warren, When does runoff start up there? Willi

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This!  Is a man that KNOWS! was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter GEAR….you gotta have GEAR!  Once you have GEAR you always need MORE GEAR and to use it you need fly tying STUFF!  Once you get STUFF you never have what you need and you are always on the lookout for more STUFF!! Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine! Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

– (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet

shown up on this server. Bruce, Send me your email address.

your post, I doubt he would have been able to send his email to you <g Warren

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server. Willi, I’ve fished the canyon of the Rio (the NM part).  Up near the CO border, it’s like a typical large-ish beautiful freestoner, with very little fishing pressure.  There’s miles of water and access is difficult. I caught the big brown about 100 miles downstream, in an area that we never formerly thought would hold trout because we assumed that no trout would survive the summer.  But it is a tailwater, as Cochiti Resevoir is located on the Rio about 40 miles upstream of Albuquerque, and we fish about 10 river miles down from the dam.  Apparently the water’s warm enough within the first 15 miles or so down from the dam.  I know now that there are really big browns in there. The river below Cochiti is mostly wide, sand and gravel, with big riffles like the Madison near Ennis.  That’s about the only similarity to the madison of course.  The water is mostly thigh deep, the river is about 100 yards wide mostly.  There are a few deep runs below the narrower riffles, and that’s where the big browns are I think.  I say "I think" because I’ve now been there five times and gotten a total of one strike that I know of.  It’s just that the one strike produced the best fish I’ve ever caught.  I think even Angie, the queen of spey, might say "nice fish" but probably not Yesterday afternoon I went back and got skunked like usual.  There were tiny brown mayflies galore but no rising fish nor were there any visible fish.  Oh well.  The SJ water just went yucky, everything else down here is in runoff mode, so maybe I’ll go back to the RIO tomorrow. bruce h Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server.

Bruce, Send me your email address. Willi

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When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple.

Of course, fishing catalogue photos aren’t necessarily representative of reality, either.   Truth is probably somewhere in between.   You could get by with less, the guys in the photo would need more to fish where you do. Joe F.

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When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple.

I think that’s especially true if you’re close enough to some water to able to fish when you can get away for only an hour or two. Spending twenty minutes getting dressed and undressed doesn’t work too well. One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

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Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water. When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

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Last night I rummaged around the basement, looking for ways to do this better.  I found an old rod tube that’ll help with the rigging problem and I dug out  my neoprene stocking foot hippies.  That still leaves me with boots and gravel guards but the clothes changing part is now history.  For an hour’s worth of fishing on the Credit, a pair of insulated rubber boots and a jacket with a couple of big pockets are all that’s really necessary.  Always an excuse to buy more stuff, eh?

What you really need, Peter, is a horse and a telescoping fly rod. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g Dave

No worries, all Timmies are 24/7/365 Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

GEAR….you gotta have GEAR!  Once you have GEAR you always need MORE GEAR and to use it you need fly tying STUFF!  Once you get STUFF you never have what you need and you are always on the lookout for more STUFF!! Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine! Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

Last night I rummaged around the basement, looking for ways to do this better.  I found an old rod tube that’ll help with the rigging problem and I dug out  my neoprene stocking foot hippies.  That still leaves me with boots and gravel guards but the clothes changing part is now history.  For an hour’s worth of fishing on the Credit, a pair of insulated rubber boots and a jacket with a couple of big pockets are all that’s really necessary.  Always an excuse to buy more stuff, eh? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Petah writes: Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water.

On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g Dave

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Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

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A few of us fished it last weekend. The river was fishing rather well. In the evening there were tricos, LARGE stoneflies and small yellow stones with a few caddis. Stop into Fran Betters shop and ask what the river is doing. He is usually tying up flies to match the hatch. Paul

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Paul Goodwin writes: A few of us fished it last weekend. The river was fishing rather well. In the evening there were tricos, LARGE stoneflies and small yellow stones with a few caddis. Stop into Fran Betters shop and ask what the river is doing. He is usually tying up flies to match the hatch. Paul Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

Yes, the river was fishing quite well.  Took some nice browns on cream colored nymps fished deep and slow.  Some surface activity — tricos and emerging midges.  Fran Betters will sell you some flies that you do not have in your fly box.  <g Dave LaCourse

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Two report pages: http://www.ausablewulff.com/updates.html http://www.ausableriversportshop.com/conditions.htm Obviously the first is out of date, so email or call from the home page.  The second is obviously more up-to-date, but I have to comment on something interesting there.  On the ausableriversportshop.com home page, it says "…the Conditions page – it will give you an honest, accurate account of what’s happening on the river today."  Well, how honest is that?  At the top it says "Today is Friday August 11."  That is, that’s what it says for *you*, if you’re reading it today, Aug 11.  But that’s not what it says for me, because I was doing a little playing with my computer and changed the date (for a different reason).  Point being, they imply the page is updated each day, but in fact it just picks that date up from whatever the current date is set to on your computer! Regards, Jeff

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I was in Syracuse for the TU convention. I heard mixed reports on the Ausable. Some good; some not so good. Al << Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

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…  got real sick.  bad stomach ache.  threw up a lot.  a real clear, slightly amber viscous vomitus.  bad gas pains. real cramping belly wrenchers.

That water probably wouldn’t be so bad without the absinthe. — Ken Fortenberry

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You know, if I ever have the big one….I hope I’m around you guys…..I mean I wouldn’t have to worry about extended efforts to prolong my life without regard to the quality of it….taint no mercy here!     john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Personally, I like to use a died marabou I get at the local hobby shop. Yea: go with the died marabou. The live ones are ugly bastards and they’ve got bloody great sharp beaks! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Personally, I like to use a died marabou I get at the local hobby shop.

Yea: go with the died marabou. The live ones are ugly bastards and they’ve got bloody great sharp beaks! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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_____  One of these days, I should probably reveal the greatest secret known to man regarding the deadliest WOOLLY BUGGER Pattern known.  I should probably do it for Flies of the World because that is where everyone will find it, but this is a moral dilemma!  Who does Catch & Release and how many (in secret and behind our backs) really are Catch & Killers!??  Ahhhhh, the question boggles the mind. I have been told by a friend that if I reveal this pattern (MickeyMouse-a code word known to only a few) I would probably be assassinated, ground up into flake food and used in all the aquariums owned by ROFFIANS!  (Who would chuckle in glee dispensing me even way past midnight!) I will instruct in my will to reveal this pattern if I don’t change my mind before hand.  This pattern will triple the tonnage for all the fly fishing killers in ROFF . . . thereby, making me immortal in the eyes of mine gill-sayers. Oh!  The price of glory and it is so fleeing!  The fish and the fly is gone leaving us once again with only tippet in hand. Isn’t life a bitch?! — Mr.G http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html

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Personally, I like to use a died marabou I get at the local hobby shop.  The dark green tends to fade after you fish it for a while – giving it a streaked appearance like what would be on the carapace of a crawdad (crayfish) when twitched along the bottom. Pearl chenille works great for spring fishing, add a dash of flashabou in the white marabou tail for an extra attention getter. I almost always tie with a bead head, and sometimes a silver works better than a brass and visa versified. Sometimes I’ll make the body out of two colors of chenille…black and brown or perhaps use a contrasting hackle color. Often I’ll tie in a few bright red wispy hanging down strands of marabou in the tail, with maybe one or two coming off the body to give an impression of a minnow with his guts hanging out.  Called up Erie way a ‘bleeding minnow.’ If I’m planning on fishing it along the bottom, I’ll use a shorter hackle but for ripping it through the water I like a real long hackle to give plenty of pulsation. I use basically one size of hook but vary the length of the body and where I begin the tail. Having contrast helps avoid changing light conditions, and having to change colors so often Personally, I have to rank a wooly bugger right up there at the top of the list. john p.s. went steelhead fishing.  the water was real cold. before the sun came up the air was real cold.  shoulda had a net.  steelhead have teeth…..up around lake erie, they get their drinking water from the lake.   put a lotta chlorine in it.  got real sick.  bad stomach ache.  threw up a lot.  a real clear, slightly amber viscous vomitus.  bad gas pains. real cramping belly wrenchers.

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What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?

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I have always liked Gink.  When it hits the cold water, it thickens up and tends to stay on.  I fish streams quite a bit and it seems to stay on longer/better than most floatants. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?

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Dave, I heard Mr. G. made Xink to sink flies because some people put too much Gink on their fly and couldn’t keep them on the water. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last? I have started to use a desicant (drying crystals).  The Orvis brand seems to be the best.  After catching a fish, simply wash off the fly in the stream, put it in desicant, shake, false cast once or twice and you are back in business.  If I *must* use a floatant, it is Gink or Albolene (an unscented cleanser). You can buy a 12 oz jar of Albolene in a drug store and it will last you tens of years.  Don’t ever confuse Gink with Xink, however.  I did — Adam’s sunk like a stone!  ;0) Dave LaCourse

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Gink. Don’t mess round with anything else – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?

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What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?

At least one very significant mail-order fly fishing catelog and guide service repackages Albolene Face Cream as their house brand of floatant.  It works as well as anything, but if you buy it in the pharmacy it is about $2.99 for 8 ounces, instead of $4.99 for 1/4 ounce. There are really 4 different situations.  1) pretreatment for a newly minted fly.  2) streamside treatment for a fly ready to fish  3) streamside treatment for a wet fly. In situation 1 I like a silicon type penetrating fluid.  It takes too long to dry for streamside use, but does an excellent job of creating a long floating fly. Depending on the fly, at streamside I like either a paste type floatant for elkhair based flies (Elk Hair Caddis, Stimulators, etc…) where the delecacy of the fly is not easily compromised.  If the fly is easily smashed — hackles matted down — I like an aerosol like Osprey brand floatant. Finally, if a fly is drowned and you have to resuscitate it, one of the powder type treatments will work nicely. Depending on the water conditions and how many fish you catch, a well treated fly can keep floating well for a half hour of use.  If in doubt, dry it out.  If you are using the paste type treatment, wipe the extra off your fingers on the last 2 feet of your fly line.  This will help keep the line from dragging the fly underwater. Happy fishin!

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Gink. Hands down.

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<<What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last? I have started to use a desicant (drying crystals).  The Orvis brand seems to be the best.  After catching a fish, simply wash off the fly in the stream, put it in desicant, shake, false cast once or twice and you are back in business.  If I *must* use a floatant, it is Gink or Albolene (an unscented cleanser). You can buy a 12 oz jar of Albolene in a drug store and it will last you tens of years.  Don’t ever confuse Gink with Xink, however.  I did — Adam’s sunk like a stone!  ;0) Dave LaCourse

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What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best,

"Gee"……what a question:-) — Bill

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What the general consensus on fly floating.  Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?

There is no consensus because the best for natural materials (fur and feather fibre) is unlikely to be also the best for synthetics (e.g. polypropylene.)  If they can get the materials they want, many tyers use no floatant at all. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98.

Steve, The Saco is a good trout river.  Clear, cold water that flows out of the White Mountains.  The Ellis river is a tributary that also holds some nice trout.  Many ponds in the area have some good hatches in June.  A little further away is the Androscoggin river, a much larger river that holds brook trout, rainbows, browns, and landlocked salmon. Good luck on your trip, Gerry Crow

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As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught? How is it best fished? What sort of tackle is required? Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly? Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick

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I spent several days in North Conway with my family last June.  Although I didn’t spend any time fishing the Saco River, I did watch the river for about an hour or so every evening for future reference.  The water was at an average level, the hatches were impressive, every size and color of fly you can imagine.  The fish were feeding actively but appeared tough to raise.  The water near this particular bridge is deep and clear and also very heavily fished.  There was a fisherman every 100 feet or so both upstream and down every night, and I believe it may be ffo in that area.  Several guide options in N.Conway would be your best bet to find a more peaceful experience as I know there are other streams within an hour drive that would be less as crowded.   Have a great time in New England, be sure to pack your bug spray or a few strong cigars! Jim Finely crafted leather goods from the tanned skins of Atlantic salmon, wolf fish and cod fish. Visit our site at: http://www.tiac.net/users/batesbiz/upscale.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught? How is it best fished? What sort of tackle is required? Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly? Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick

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I just returned from the Morro Bay area, and noticed many people fishing in the surf with light weight spinning tackle and hooking a decent number of surf perch of good size.  Can anybody tell me of patterns that can be used to fly fish this area of the coast from the surf? With minimal wind,what size rod and type of line should I use. Thanks for any information provided.

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I just returned from the Morro Bay area, and noticed many people fishing in the surf with light weight spinning tackle and hooking a decent number of surf perch of good size.  Can anybody tell me of patterns that can be used to fly fish this area of the coast from the surf? With minimal wind,what size rod and type of line should I use. Thanks for any information provided.

Try a sinking line with a crab pattern.  A 7-8 wt setup seems to be the preferred setup. Wes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Classic Sports International will hold several CME CAT.1 approved Medical-Dental-Legal seminars at great fly fishing locations this year including Peace & Plenty Bonefish Lodge,Exuma,Bahamas(May 29-June 2) Five Rivers Lodge, Montana(June 26-30) and King Salmon Lodge,Alaska

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Classic Sports International will hold several CME CAT.1 approved Medical-Dental-Legal seminars at great fly fishing locations this year including Peace & Plenty Bonefish Lodge,Exuma,Bahamas(May 29-June 2) Five Rivers Lodge, Montana(June 26-30) and King Salmon Lodge,Alaska

No Doctors or Attorneys wanted Please do not attempt to book trips with me After 20 years of outfitting I refuse to take Doc’s or Sharks Go to Montana and fish for no talent ,stupid cutthroat or Alaska,another If your looking to bilk us taxpayers for your fishing trips see above post As an American I can honestly say we are proud that you are so concerned about your continuing education that you feel WE should pay for it. Bend over America here come the Doc’s & Sharks

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Looking for any information on fly fishing for trout in the Phoenix, Arizona area, radius 250 miles.  Streams, rivers, lakes, etc..

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Sedona, is w/in your 250 miles, boasts art galleries, shops, and great fishing. There is a small stream, Oak Creek Canyon, that holds Browns and stocked Bows. Fish above slide rock for the browns.  Tan Caddis larva was working well this month.  The White Mountains, about 200 miles east of Phoenix has a wide variety of streams and lakes, almost all of which are full of browns, bows, brookies, and the native Apache golden trout. (602)902-0881.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not an expert on Redfish, but I have fished for them with flies in  Tampa Bay, and I have a good friend who even catches them there that way. The fundamental secret is sinking line.  Redfish are downlooking feeders. They like shrimp, shrimp dive for the bottom when they see predators.  If  you can make a shrimp imitation head for the bottom on the retrieve, you   should have some success.  I understand  that green and white Lefty’s  Deceivers and Clouser innows are pretty good too.  Good luck, I did throw a line at some enormous RF there in Tampa Bay, and  the ones my boatmates caught on bait were quite a handful (18-25#). Crashjibe

Get the August/September issue of Fly Fishing Saltwater.  One of the articles is Florida’s Indian River Lagoon. The Indian river is on the East coast of Florida rather than the west coast where Tampa, but Jon Cave, the author talks extensively about catching redfish and trout.  I am also taking a fly fihsing course from him this weekend.  His favorite is a deerhair surface popper.  He also suggests streamer flies, and bendbacks.  Clouser deep minnows and keel-hook flies are recommended.  Use a 7 to 9 weight system and a floating line for most situations.  Reds like surface disturbances and noise. From my own experience, if you can get something flashy and something that rattles, a red will strike it no matter where it is.  They will get surface flies as well as deep water flies. Good luck!

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated!

Starting from the surface and working to the bottom: Floater — Pencil poppers – white or yellow with red head. Slow sinker — SeaDucers – same colors. Medium sinker — Lefty’s Deceivers or Blondes. Faster sinker — Bendbacks, deceivers and blondes with bead chain eyes. Bottom bouncers — Clouser minnows and larger crazy charlies. Check with the locals on what is hot the days you are there.

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I’m not an expert on Redfish, but I have fished for them with flies in Tampa Bay, and I have a good friend who even catches them there that way. The fundamental secret is sinking line.  Redfish are downlooking feeders. They like shrimp, shrimp dive for the bottom when they see predators.  If you can make a shrimp imitation head for the bottom on the retrieve, you should have some success.  I understand  that green and white Lefty’s Deceivers and Clouser innows are pretty good too. Good luck, I did throw a line at some enormous RF there in Tampa Bay, and the ones my boatmates caught on bait were quite a handful (18-25#). Crashjibe

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish — deleted Thanks…Craig.

I plan a trip in Jan and my info says Clouser minnows, both with and without bead head eyes in green/white.  I ‘ll try some pink/biege for shrimp imitatisons too.  They are easy to tie.  Crazy Charlies have a body wrap that I can’t identify so I will buy them or tie there.  Anyone have a quickie crab pattern?

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated! Thanks…Craig. —              "Sometimes you get shown the Light,               in the strangest places if you look at right"

   I seem to remember a "shrimp" pattern as being reasonably successful…    But it’s been quite a while and I was fishing in the marshes of south    Louisiana (Lafitte, etc.).    Hap —                 <<<<< OMNIA EXTARES                              

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated! Thanks…Craig. —               "Sometimes you get shown the Light,                in the strangest places if you look at right"

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