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says… [snip] anyone who knows Jeff knows that this is roughly equivalent to Martha Stewart declaring that she’s too tired to make real mashed potatoes and that [snip] I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart

I guess Jeff doesn’t like being compared to Martha Stewart any more than he likes being too tired to fish

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…actually, just thinkin ’bout martha gives me a woody… uh ken… you ain’t puttin any of this stuff in your articles are you? jeff (schwing king) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… [snip] anyone who knows Jeff knows that this is roughly equivalent to Martha Stewart declaring that she’s too tired to make real mashed potatoes and that [snip] I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart

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… uh ken… you ain’t puttin any of this stuff in your articles are you?

Nah, ROFFians are safe for the time being. Nobody wants to buy trip reports, or not mine at any rate. — Ken Fortenberry

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rw wrote… I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart That’s Fortenberry’s wet dream.

I thought Martha Stewart was just his pseudonym.  You mean there is a real Martha Stewart??  ;-) — Warren Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt

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says… [snip] anyone who knows Jeff knows that this is roughly equivalent to Martha Stewart declaring that she’s too tired to make real mashed potatoes and that [snip] I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart

You’ve obviously never seen Ken and Martha cast.  I have – both of ‘em.  No wonder he looks up to her.  <G — Ken Fortenberry nice TR! Winter is slowly settling into central NJ.  The most fun we’re having around here is scouring a local waterway for signs of searun brown trout.

Could be worse.  you could be stuck on a computer, dreaming about trout.  (sigh) Thanks for sharing it. Rob

Great TR BTW, but don’t let it go to your head. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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… You’ve obviously never seen Ken and Martha cast.  I have – both of ‘em.  No wonder he looks up to her.  <G

Yeah, yeah, go ahead and yuk it up about my casting but it wasn’t ME who had our poor guide wishin’ for a football helmet while piloting our drift boat down the Muskegon. Great TR BTW, but don’t let it go to your head.

Not to worry dahling, I won’t forget the little people. — Ken Fortenberry

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says… [snip] anyone who knows Jeff knows that this is roughly equivalent to Martha Stewart declaring that she’s too tired to make real mashed potatoes and that [snip]

I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart — Ken Fortenberry

nice TR! Winter is slowly settling into central NJ.  The most fun we’re having around here is scouring a local waterway for signs of searun brown trout. Thanks for sharing it. Rob

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I can’t imagine anyone who hangs out in this group would appreciate being compared with Martha Stewart

That’s Fortenberry’s wet dream. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I was headed west on I-40 early Sunday morning when I saw the sign for the Blue Ridge Parkway. In a moment of inspired spontaneity caused in no small measure by the clear blue Carolina sky and the remembrance of the past two days fishing with Zimbo and Wayno, I quickly decided to postpone my trip to Alabama one more day and fish in the Park. I’d thought about fishing with Jeff and Waldo on Sunday hoping to be shown another of their Grandfather Mountain gems but they’d both been fishing since Thursday and Jeff said he was too tired to fish another day. Now, anyone who knows Jeff knows that this is roughly equivalent to Martha Stewart declaring that she’s too tired to make real mashed potatoes and that instant mashed potato flakes are a "good thing". Simply astonishing. So when Waldo called, (and speaking of Waldo and Martha Stewart, his upscale, yuppie, downtown Morganton flyshop looks like something straight out of Martha’s design book , we decided to call it a weekend. But the Blue Ridge Parkway beckoned and I pointed the Forester towards the Park. Arrived at Oconaluftee to find the Newfound Gap Road closed for construction. So much for inspired spontaneity. I drove around the south side of the Park and fished Twenty Mile Creek that afternoon instead. The solitary hike up the Twenty Mile Creek trail on a glorious Sunday in December afforded me an opportunity to reflect on the previous days fishing and on flyfishing in general. To bowdlerize Camus, flyfishing represents, even in the depths of the impending winter, that invincible summer within me. Flyfishing challenges my intellect with its arcana of ephemeral bugs, and the contrasting physical challenges of deftly flicking a delicate stick and boulder hopping in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina nourishes my soul in ways I can hardly comprehend. That Friday with Zimbo was our first time fishing together. It was a grey, warm day and the woods around Upper Creek had the smell of moldy, fecund winter. So different from the crisp, sterile smell of a midwestern winter. Funny how different people approach a stream. We climbed down from the trail to a big rock face where we could see three trout feeding in, by Upper Creek standards, a pretty big pool. While I sat on the rock studying the pool looking for an approach, Zimbo grew impatient and slid off the rock to give it a go. It was definitely a spot for an upstream cast but short of taking a swim there was no way to get downstream of the pool. And so we fished. I with a 6′3" 3wt Hamilton ‘boo and Steve with a Cabela’s stowaway. We fished our part of the stream in precisely the three hours Waldo had predicted and then tried to return to that first pool from the downstream side but darkness intervened and we called it a day. It was a real pleasure to finally get to fish with Steve. Wayno had locked us out of the cabin and was already well into the Balvenie when we got home to Beech Mountain. Dinner was necessarily carry-out as the tourist services on Beech Mountain are dependent on the (non-existent) snow. Jeff drove off the mountain at some ungodly hour of the morning to fish with Walt while Wayno and I did the civilized thing and ate a leisurely breakfast down in Banner Elk. The weather continued to cooperate, despite assurances of rain from the weather man, and we hiked down the Elk River in the chardonnay light of late fall in the mountains. No winter here, not just yet. How in the hell do I describe fishing with Wayno ? It’s beyond my poor power. There is a joy, a mischievous, boyish glee in the way he throws himself onto a trout stream. It’s an infectious joy and you just cannot help but get caught up in the delight of flyfishing writ large upon the personal history of that Rowan County rogue. Wayno left to get back in time for the LSU-Tennessee game and Jeff and I had a large time cooking for ourselves back at Zimbo’s cabin. Remember Zimbo’s cabin ? That’s the title of this post. — Ken Fortenberry

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Technique: Roll Cast: Bring the sinking line on top Back Cast: Just off vertical…allowing the sinking line to lay on the water Forward Cast: The rod loads from picking up the back cast and by adding a haul the line shoots approximately 60/70′ each cast Getting The Fly Down: Strip line off the reel until the fly is

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Only trouble, one of the two instructors with me was carrying a piece and you could see it.  He didn’t like the restaurant or its clientele.  d:0(  Although he was licensed, it did not make us very comfortable being with him. Dave L. An obviously poorly trained individual.  A visible piece is no protection and is akin to the braggart boasting of things he has never done with no witnesses to back it up.  Additionally, at ranges up to fifteen feet, a holstered weapon is no defense against an already drawn knife. Personally, in situations such as those, I distance myself from the individual in question, sashay up to the bar, delicately look at my watch while tsk tsking…….and say to the first person that asks, "Well, you can buy me a drink, but only one!"….john

ROFL.  The good counselor for the great North State will have something to say, I am sure.  Especially since it happened in his great NS.  (still laughing) Dave      —–  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free Usenet News via the Web  —–      —–  http://newsone.net/ —  Discussions on every subject. —–    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts

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An obviously poorly trained individual.  A visible piece is no protection and is akin to the braggart boasting of things he has never done with no witnesses to back it up.  

I don’t know that I’d go so far. It is telling the robber about to walk in the door who he should shoot first, though. Additionally, at ranges up to fifteen feet, a holstered weapon is no defense against an already drawn knife.

It was 21 feet, when Sgt. Tueller first demonstrated it. According to my arrest-control instructors, it might have become even more since then. "They conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone — the most comprehensive of rights…" -Justice Louis Brandeis

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Only trouble, one of the two instructors with me was carrying a piece and you could see it.  He didn’t like the restaurant or its clientele.  d:0(  Although he was licensed, it did not make us very comfortable being with him. Dave L.

An obviously poorly trained individual.  A visible piece is no protection and is akin to the braggart boasting of things he has never done with no witnesses to back it up.  Additionally, at ranges up to fifteen feet, a holstered weapon is no defense against an already drawn knife. Personally, in situations such as those, I distance myself from the individual in question, sashay up to the bar, delicately look at my watch while tsk tsking…….and say to the first person that asks, "Well, you can buy me a drink, but only one!"….john

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It is pay-off time for when IJ sent my buddies and me to the gay restaurant in Wilmington. Warren Western Conclave Guru For info: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/sp_ROFF_people/wclave/wclave.html

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It is pay-off time for when IJ sent my buddies and me to the gay restaurant in Wilmington.

You are baaaad.  But typical USMC – never thinking about normal heterosexual sex.  Actually, IJ’s restaurant was pretty good.  Good martinis and fairly good food.  Only trouble, one of the two instructors with me was carrying a piece and you could see it.  He didn’t like the restaurant or its clientele.  d:0(  Although he was licensed, it did not make us very comfortable being with him.   Dave L.      —–  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free Usenet News via the Web  —–      —–  http://newsone.net/ —  Discussions on every subject. —–    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts

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[entreaties snipped] This year we will insure that Indian Joe does not win all of them like he has in the past. This I got to see. Nobody has yet demonstrated an immunity to IJ’s croc’ tears ;^) The caving of the RaffleMeister is inevitable. /daytripper (It’s not "if" – it’s "when" ;^)

No, I have found new resolve.  IJ will be lucky if he wins *any* flies. It’s his turn for an obscene hat or tie.  It is pay-off time for when IJ sent my buddies and me to the gay restaurant in Wilmington.  He can cry all he wants; I will not give in this year.  New resolve.  Yes sir. Dave L.      —–  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free Usenet News via the Web  —–      —–  http://newsone.net/ —  Discussions on every subject. —–    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts

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If anyone going there try the Thunder Creek series of Streamers about size 4 in Brown and dirty yellow belley- Killers – Almost a fish per cast on Saturday 11-14-98

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I have Keith Fulsher’s "Tying and Fishing the Thunder Creek Series". They are my favorite streamers and I have always done well with them. — Ernie Harrison Fly Fishing Books, Blood Knot Machine Wading Boots, Making Rods, Fly Tying Box Go to:  http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone going there try the Thunder Creek series of Streamers about size 4 in Brown and dirty yellow belley- Killers – Almost a fish per cast on Saturday 11-14-98

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The main thing is, beef up your terminal gear. 0X fluorocarbon is a greatchoice. Nine foot is a goo length, tapered. Intermediate shooting head seems to be better than a floater – cuts wind and waves better. Charlies and gotchas are usually good, but when in doubt and in the usual 3-4 ft of water, I tie on a lightly weighted size 2 ultrashrimp. Nice chunk of meat substitute for big bones. Probably too big if the water is shallow. The Battenkill is a tough call. I caught bones on a Battenkill 8/9, but took care to clean out the salt afterward. If you hook a 9-10 lb bone, you might get spooled. I caught a 29 inch bone in Aruba (9.5lbs?) that almost spooled me with an Abel 3 reel (8wt head, 100 ft running line, 200 yds 30lb dacron backing). Think about it. One other thing: Before you make cast number one, just stand still and watch the ebb and flow of the water around you for 10 – 15 minutes (if you can stand it). Bones are like trout – find their feeding lanes and cruising lanes, and cast where they live. Be prepared for the time of your life. Salt water can ALMOST spoil you for anything else. FlyFisherRay

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I have never been bonefishing before and I’m wondering if any of you have any advice for me. I have an 8wt Sage and regular floating line on a Orvis Battenkill reel. I don’t own any bonefish flies. I am wondering what I will need to make my trip this C-mas to the Bay islands of Honduras a successfull one. Will a regular floating line work? What type of leader size and length is typical? Can I wade in TEVAs or tennis shoes? Should I bring a 6wt rod as well? Has anyone been to or heard anything about the Bay islands? We will be at the largest one called Roatan or something like that. Any advice I could get that would help me get my first Bone would be appreciated. What about barracuda? I know some of you out there have experience in the salt, won’t you help a poor landlocked chump out? Brady

Hi Brady, Your outfit will be fine. I would get the stiffest 9′ 0x knot less tapered leaders with matching 0x tippet material. Use a bead eyed Charlie type bonefish fly for sand bottoms and a snapping shrimp type pattern for turtle grass flats. good colors are brown, tan, olive and pink. Take some small crab imitations in tan or olive for permit. Get a long needle fish imitation with a wire leader for cudas. I always take some light colored small/medium salt water poppers and some small/medium salt water streamers. A hat, Polarized glasses and sun screen are important.  Casting skill is very important in salt water fly fishing, so be sure to work on that a bit. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I’ve been to Belize a few times but not Honduras. The 8wt should be fine but the Battenkill reel probably won’t hold up. Get a disk drag saltwater reel (SA System 2 or equivalent at least). The line should be OK too but there are some special lines made for salt water that you should look at. They tend to be more of a shooting taper and a little stiffer so they don’t sag as much in hot weather. I have had the best luck with Crazy Charlies and Permit Puffs as flies. For barracuda try a needlefish imitation and strip _real_ fast with both hands. As far as wading, it depends on the bottom. Some flats are very soft and can’t be waded very well. I fished primarily from a boat in Belize. Have a great time and try to see some ruins as well. I have never been bonefishing before and I’m wondering if any of you have any advice for me. I have an 8wt Sage and regular floating line on a Orvis Battenkill reel. I don’t own any bonefish flies. I am wondering what I will need to make my trip this C-mas to the Bay islands of Honduras a successfull one. Will a regular floating line work? What type of leader size and length is typical? Can I wade in TEVAs or tennis shoes? Should I bring a 6wt rod as well? Has anyone been to or heard anything about the Bay islands? We will be at the largest one called Roatan or something like that. Any advice I could get that would help me get my first Bone would be appreciated. What about barracuda? I know some of you out there have experience in the salt, won’t you help a poor landlocked chump out? Brady

– Charlie…

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I have never been bonefishing before and I’m wondering if any of you have any advice for me. I have an 8wt Sage and regular floating line on a Orvis Battenkill reel. I don’t own any bonefish flies. I am wondering what I will need to make my trip this C-mas to the Bay islands of Honduras a successfull one. Will a regular floating line work? What type of leader size and length is typical? Can I wade in TEVAs or tennis shoes? Should I bring a 6wt rod as well? Has anyone been to or heard anything about the Bay islands? We will be at the largest one called Roatan or something like that. Any advice I could get that would help me get my first Bone would be appreciated. What about barracuda? I know some of you out there have experience in the salt, won’t you help a poor landlocked chump out?  Brady

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I’ll be taking a trip to Los Angeles next week.  Anyone know of places near LA/SD for saltwater fly fishing?    Mu Young Lee         Ann Arbor,MI  o             oooo                          o   o   o o   o o o  o

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King harbour, Redondo Beach, renown for 1/2 bonita on the fly.  See "inside Angler"

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For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors                         2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

OK Tim, this is an ad so I consider it fair game!   — William J. Hobson, CNE,CNA Network and Computing Support Services Texas Engineering Experiment Station Phone: (409) 845-5808

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PLEASE EVERY BODY dont wast your money on this, if you want real advise book a charter boat captian, they’ll teach you how to do all that with PRIVATE instruction and are usually CHEAPER. Here is one I know http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/toccoa/Default.htm#Captain -Paradoxal – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry and nymph fishing. I would go to Silver Creek, about 45 min. southeast of Ketchum/Sun Valley. It is a spring creek and is very special. I would stop in Silver Creek Outfitters in Ketchum and get some good flies for that time period. Ask them what time of day to fish which flies. You will need a #3, #4 or soft #5 rod with a floating line. They usually have a Trico spinner fall in the morning starting somewhere around 8 am and ending well before noon depending on the weather. The mid-day is pretty tough, but 5/6pm ’til dark should be another good period. Many anglers stop by this area on the annual pilgrimage to Montana. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

There is also a little-known spring creek on the Fort Hall Indian Reservation about 10 miles north of Pocatello, Idaho. you need a tribal permit, which last I knew was $10.00/day. This is a sizable piece of water which flows into American Falls Reservoir. Very prolific Pale Morning Dun hatches (Ephemerella Infrequens) mostly size 16 also E. Doddsi size 18. Educated fish along with masking hatches etc. good challenge. Not far out of the way if a person is at Silver Creek, about 3 hours drive. Jim Nelson

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: I would go to Silver Creek, about 45 min. southeast of Ketchum/Sun Valley. It is : a spring creek and is very special. I would stop in Silver Creek Outfitters in : Ketchum and get some good flies for that time period. Ask them what time of day : to fish which flies. You will need a #3, #4 or soft #5 rod with a floating line. I believe there is now a Silver Creek Outfitters down by the creek, on the road to Ketchum.  It might be something else, but I seem to recall it is Silver Creek Outfitters. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry and nymph fishing. I would go to Silver Creek, about 45 min. southeast of Ketchum/Sun Valley. It is a spring creek and is very special. I would stop in Silver Creek Outfitters in Ketchum and get some good flies for that time period. Ask them what time of day to fish which flies. You will need a #3, #4 or soft #5 rod with a floating line. They usually have a Trico spinner fall in the morning starting somewhere around 8 am and ending well before noon depending on the weather. The mid-day is pretty tough, but 5/6pm ’til dark should be another good period. Many anglers stop by this area on the annual pilgrimage to Montana. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY There is also a little-known spring creek on the Fort Hall Indian Reservation about 10 miles north of Pocatello, Idaho. you need a tribal permit, which last I knew was $10.00/day. This is a sizable piece of water which flows into American Falls Reservoir. Very prolific Pale Morning Dun hatches (Ephemerella Infrequens) mostly size 16 also E. Doddsi size 18. Educated fish along with masking hatches etc. good challenge. Not far out of the way if a person is at Silver Creek, about 3 hours drive. Jim NelsonEvery river is going to be raging until August or September.  Put your

trip off until then or look to fish the lakes, ie. Henry’s lake Guy

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry and nymph fishing. I would go to Silver Creek, about 45 min. southeast of Ketchum/Sun Valley. It is a spring creek and is very special. I would stop in Silver Creek Outfitters in Ketchum and get some good flies for that time period. Ask them what time of day to fish which flies. You will need a #3, #4 or soft #5 rod with a floating line. They usually have a Trico spinner fall in the morning starting somewhere around 8 am and ending well before noon depending on the weather. The mid-day is pretty tough, but 5/6pm ’til dark should be another good period. Many anglers stop by this area on the annual pilgrimage to Montana. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY There is also a little-known spring creek on the Fort Hall Indian Reservation about 10 miles north of Pocatello, Idaho. you need a tribal permit, which last I knew was $10.00/day. This is a sizable piece of water which flows into American Falls Reservoir. Very prolific Pale Morning Dun hatches (Ephemerella Infrequens) mostly size 16 also E. Doddsi size 18. Educated fish along with masking hatches etc. good challenge. Not far out of the way if a person is at Silver Creek, about 3 hours drive. Jim NelsonEvery river is going to be raging until August or September.  Put your trip off until then or look to fish the lakes, ie. Henry’s lake Guy

 In most cases the high water doesn’t have a large effect on the spring creeks. The spring creeks on the Fort Hall reservation do rise and become somewhat off-color, but they do remain fishable.  I was told, since my earlier post, that the tribe is now limiting the number of permits sold, and that all the available season permits have been sold. I don’t know this for sure, nor do I know if daily permits are still available. Before a person came here to fish it would be prudent to call the Fort Hall Tribal headquarters and find out. Jim N.

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Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry and nymph fishing.

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: Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry : and nymph fishing. Which part… it’s a big state.  And like night and day. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Robert, I’m going out in July…I plan to go to the Big Wood River & Silver Creek in the south central part of Idaho.  Never been exactly there, but I’ve read a couple of favorable things about the area and it looks like a good destination.  Most of my 13 day trip is in Montana, but this looks a good diversion.   Ray Palmer

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Want to fly fish Idaho in July. Dont know where to go.Any suggestions?Dry and nymph fishing.

I would go to Silver Creek, about 45 min. southeast of Ketchum/Sun Valley. It is a spring creek and is very special. I would stop in Silver Creek Outfitters in Ketchum and get some good flies for that time period. Ask them what time of day to fish which flies. You will need a #3, #4 or soft #5 rod with a floating line. They usually have a Trico spinner fall in the morning starting somewhere around 8 am and ending well before noon depending on the weather. The mid-day is pretty tough, but 5/6pm ’til dark should be another good period. Many anglers stop by this area on the annual pilgrimage to Montana. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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: Most people laugh when they see my "go to" fly, but it : has worked when nothing else has. It’s what I call a : Royal Gnat. It looks like a Griffith’s Gnat, but it Stuff deleted : fly fishing. I have caught 19 brown trout in 2 1/2 hours : with this fly (largest one was 14 in.).                                  ^^^^^^ Boy, that’s one big fly! : Darryl Charley

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My favorite patterns are similar – elk hair caddis, lt cahill, griffin gnat
renegade, adams.  But, and I am a bit ashamed to admit this — I have caught more trout and larger trout on a #16 royal wulff than any other.  There, I said
it.  This fly has seemed to go out of favor, and I wonder why.  Am I the only
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Most people laugh when they see my "go to" fly, but it has worked when nothing else has. It’s what I call a Royal Gnat. It looks like a Griffith’s Gnat, but it has a floss mid-section just like a Royal Coachman. Red floss works well, but I have caught quite a few on green and yellow also. Sizes from 16 to 20. It’s been my experience that even when the fish aren’t rising, that if you drift one of these through a riffle around a dozen times, (if there are any fish) they start coming to the surface to take a look. I know I’m going to get a lot of disbelief on this, thats why I have hesitated writing, but the last time out with a buddy, I gave him a few and told him how to fish them, and he had the best day he ever had fly fishing. I have caught 19 brown trout in 2 1/2 hours with this fly (largest one was 14 in.). Darryl

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Lets see who has caught lots of fish on what flies and where? My most productive rivertrout fly is the #14 Elk hair Caddis, and the #14 Light Cahill. The biggest fish I have caught on a dry in my one and a half years of fishing is a 16 in Rainbow on HAt creek in CA. How about all of you guys. I want poeple to talk about fishing not yuppies, Thanks.

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Lets see who has caught lots of fish on what flies and where? My most productive rivertrout fly is the #14 Elk hair Caddis, and the #14 Light Cahill. The biggest fish I have caught on a dry in my one and a half years of fishing is a 16 in Rainbow on HAt creek in CA. How about all of you

The most productive pattern over the last two years has been the Micro Worm (a variation on the San Juan worm). Most satisfying experience was last year when we took out a young fellow new to the sport. It was slow fishing but he hooked the first fish of the day, and the last. The last was a twenty five inch Brown. The huge grin that he was sporting is not something that will be soon forgotten. Sort of puts it all back in perspective. Flyfishing is supposed to be fun for all involved. Jim

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A list of favorite patterns would have to include the Tom Thumb, pheasant tail nymph, serendipity(?), comparadun, Werners nymph. I have by best luck on the BlackWater River in B.C. and on the Deschutes in Oregon.

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: Lets see who has caught lots of fish on what flies and where? My most : productive rivertrout fly is the #14 Elk hair Caddis, and the #14 Light : Cahill. The biggest fish I have caught on a dry in my one and a half years : of fishing is a 16 in Rainbow on HAt creek in CA. How about all of you : guys. I want poeple to talk about fishing not yuppies, Thanks. My best luck on dry flies comes with a #22 griffith’s gnat, #20 light cahill (both on the swift river), and #16-18 elk hair or poly wing caddis of the appropriate color (on the deerfield river).  The adams can’t be beat for a standard search pattern or as a reasonable facsimile of most hatches.

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For both here in Upper Michigan and Alaska, I like the Humpy.  Great floatability in the fast waters I fish.  I went through no less than forty of them here in the U.P. last year.  My second favorite is the elk hair caddis.      Steve Kernosky   *         Accept me for what I am, Michigan Tech. Univ.  *         completely unacceptable.

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Lets see who has caught lots of fish on what flies and where? My most productive rivertrout fly is the #14 Elk hair Caddis, and the #14 Light Cahill. The biggest fish I have caught on a dry in my one and a half years of fishing is a 16 in Rainbow on HAt creek in CA. How about all of you guys. I want poeple to talk about fishing not yuppies, Thanks.

My favorite pattern, the one I find myself digging for again and again is a #20-22 blond elk-hair caddis.  Caught the most on these boys. (central and southern Missouri) My biggist fish (20 1/2"  #4 3/4 Brown) was on a #6 McSalmon on the Madison. Kevin Franden                                   Informix Software, Inc.                                                 16011 College Blvd uunet!infmx!kevinf #include <patchlevel.h fprintf(DISCLAIMER,"I said what I said.n");       You only live once but if you do it right, once is enough                               Carpe Diem

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Lets see who has caught lots of fish on what flies and where? My most productive rivertrout fly is the #14 Elk hair Caddis, and the #14 Light Cahill. The biggest fish I have caught on a dry in my one and a half years of fishing is a 16 in Rainbow on HAt creek in CA. How about all of you guys. I want poeple to talk about fishing not yuppies, Thanks.

I carry lots of  flys but give me a Pheasant Tail Nymph, a Prince Nymph, and an assortment of  Elk Hair caddis and Para-duns and  I’ll be happy 90% of  the time. Here are my favorite patterns Nymphs & wet flys: Pheasant Tail Nymph ( Al Troth version)   Prince Nymph Zug Bug           Jay’s Stone ( my own ) March Brown Spider   Mini Leech                 Wooly Bugger               Dry Flys: Elk Hair Caddis Para-Dun Mac Salmon Dave’s Hopper Black Ant Griffiths Gnat Humpy Old Standbys: Adams Black Gnat Light Cahill Royal Wulff Muddler Minnow Ive done most of my fly fishing in Oregon and I have had the best fishing in these streams and some high lakes: Lower Deschutes Crooked River Metolius Wood Williamson Klamath

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My favorite has to be the Humpie. It’s produced many memorable days. Second is the Parachute Adams or  a similiar fly tied in brown. Biggest was a 24"  Rainbow( really) on a floating foam chrionomid. Bead head hairs ears are the favorite nymph- while maybe the Prince should be number one.

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Re: Dry flies. My favorite patterns are similar – elk hair caddis, lt cahill, griffin gnat renegade, adams.  But, and I am a bit ashamed to admit this — I have caught more trout and larger trout on a #16 royal wulff than any other.  There, I said it.  This fly has seemed to go out of favor, and I wonder why.  Am I the only one that ties this on when nothing is working??? — MGC Top Down Design Support

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Re: Dry flies. My favorite patterns are similar – elk hair caddis, lt cahill, griffin gnat renegade, adams.  But, and I am a bit ashamed to admit this — I have caught more trout and larger trout on a #16 royal wulff than any other.  There, I said it.  This fly has seemed to go out of favor, and I wonder why.  Am I the only one that ties this on when nothing is working??? — MGC Top Down Design Support Most people laugh when they see my "go to" fly, but it has worked when nothing else has. It’s what I call a Royal Gnat. It looks like a Griffith’s Gnat, but it has a floss mid-section just like a Royal Coachman. Red floss works well, but I have caught quite a few on green and yellow also. Sizes from 16 to 20.

This sounds a lot like a "Sierra Bright Dot". It has grizzly hackle at the head and butt of the fly and *bright* orange floss in the middle.  I’ve done real well with them on some high country Sierra Nevada lakes. — John Fereira   "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA Viacom Cable Division

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Can any of you kind folks give me some tips for "power baits" for fishing in SW Ontario?  We’ll be on Clay Lake along the Wabigoon R. fishing mostly for Walleyes, Pike and Bass. I know the basics, Rapalas, yellow jigs, but what type of fishing is interesting and different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad

If you really want something "interesting and different" and impress your "curmudgeon fatherinlaw" try fly fishing. When I started fly fishing, it was in similar circumstances. I knew nothing about it, just bought a cheap sporting goods store outfit and a book. When we arrived at the rental house we were staying at in the Sierra Nevadas, I sat down with the book to setup the outfit, tie the knots, etc., taking flak all the time ("You’ll never catch anything","You don’t know what you’re doing", etc.). To make a long story short, I caught a modest (10 in.) brown trout on my second cast. In this case it was my father who was with me, but was he impressed! Fly fishing has become my life long pursuit ever since. Darryl

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snip.. different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad If you really want something "interesting and different" and impress your "curmudgeon fatherinlaw" try fly fishing. When I started fly

snip.. my father who was with me, but was he impressed! Fly fishing has become my life long pursuit ever since. Darryl

No chance there. The man built me my fly rod! A splendid 4 wt. for the panfish and scattered trout that can be had here in the Midwest. Meanwhile he "flies" into Central American looking for Bonefish and Tarpon.  I love the magical energy of a fine rod and an artful cast, not to mention the explosion of fishy energy after that minute fly floats down to kiss the water’s surface. — chad

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Stuff Deleted… No chance there. The man built me my fly rod! A splendid 4 wt. for the panfish and scattered trout that can be had here in the Midwest. Meanwhile he "flies" into Central American looking for Bonefish and Tarpon.  

Sounds like your trip should be to a fly fishing lodge, then. Not to a place where you would be looking for hot colors for jigs, etc. Seriously, there are so many opportunities for quality fly fishing where you are going, why waste time on anything else? I love the magical energy of a fine rod and an artful cast, not to mention the explosion of fishy energy after that minute fly floats down to kiss the water’s surface. — chad

Couldn’t have said it better myself! Darryl

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  raps.   But in 3 weeks I will be on my anual trip to Kenora (dryden)   and shall give it a fair shot,..I’ll let you know how it goes there,   but right now I will mainly using my power baits  :)

I too will be heading up there in now about just approximately 11 days, 2 hours and some 55 minutes (moreorless). Can any of you kind folks give me some tips for "power baits" for fishing in SW Ontario?  We’ll be on Clay Lake along the Wabigoon R. fishing mostly for Walleyes, Pike and Bass. I know the basics, Rapalas, yellow jigs, but what type of fishing is interesting and different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad

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DS Hello Marv (fellow BBS member here On Rose)  :)    I would have to agree 100%, I first saw the spoons in Cabelas   catalogue and thought they would be the ‘cats as*’ BUT upon buying one   (silver/blue/red) my hopes went WAY DOWN, plastic body, THICK/DULL   hook, not like the normal gamagatsu that are on normal rapala’s   I have yet to fish with one, so how knows, but if a lure does not   ‘feel’ good chances are I will not tie it on.    what I was hoping it   would be good for was in the Fall at Port Hope (ganaraska) at the pier   as the slamon and trout go crazy for the silver/blue/red rattling   raps.   But in 3 weeks I will be on my anual trip to Kenora (dryden)   and shall give it a fair shot,..I’ll let you know how it goes there,   but right now I will mainly using my power baits  :)   It’s close to a Johnson Silver Minnow but the body shape is slightly different. With the Johnson always used a Pork trailer, think the addition might change the "action" of said spoon (just a guess).  My Salmon Fishing Partner is going to open his swimming pool next weekend, alas I won’t be able to wet the Rap. Minnow as I’ll be on the water for the opening weekend of Walleye this coming Saturday with my Bassin’ Partner.  The Polaroid is loaded and hopefully will get some go pictures, and if we hit into the "deuce" sized Walleyes then a Shore Lunch might be on the Schedule.   Regards    Marv  *   —    RoseReader 2.10  P001256 Entered at [ROSE]    RoseMail 2.50 : RoseNet<=Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285

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