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I second that. Shawn

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think we should all let Norma know how we feel about Forrest making it to the NWC. Myself, I think it would be a once-in-a-lifetime event for a youngster to mingle with an older generation that would only have his interest at heart and spoil the H*** out of him. At the Open tournaments that my club promotes, whenever we have a young man join his father as a fishing partner, (as young as 7yrs.old), everyone in the crowd makes sure that this young man wants for nothing. The club makes sure that he walks away with more stuff in grab bags than he can hardly carry. So Norma, if you’re reading this with Forrest, please reconsider and let us enjoy our time with him, and maybe give us a memories that we didn’t get to share with our kids when they were his age. You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one? Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know. Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/ — Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Thanks old buddy!!   I am sure I will hear something from her now!  <grin She has actually suggested an alternative since I last posted… she said maybe he could fly.  Because of his health condition and the likelihood that something could happen while on the road in the middle of "no where" she prefer him not be on the road with me for two days. If something, God Forbid, were to happen and we were on the road and as an example… three hours from the nearest hospital capable of treating him, it would be very tragic to say the least.  So I have to give that to her.  It only makes sense that we not risk it. So… I’m working on the flying for him.  Keep the pressure coming… I’ll let you know what she has to say.   I have serious doubts that he will be able to make it at this point but I need to talk to Huber and find out what medical facilities are around there.  Personally… I think she’s overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin Thanks again.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think we should all let Norma know how we feel about Forrest making it to the NWC. Myself, I think it would be a once-in-a-lifetime event for a youngster to mingle with an older generation that would only have his interest at heart and spoil the H*** out of him. At the Open tournaments that my club promotes, whenever we have a young man join his father as a fishing partner, (as young as 7yrs.old), everyone in the crowd makes sure that this young man wants for nothing. The club makes sure that he walks away with more stuff in grab bags than he can hardly carry. So Norma, if you’re reading this with Forrest, please reconsider and let us enjoy our time with him, and maybe give us a memories that we didn’t get to share with our kids when they were his age. You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one? Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know. Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/ — Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Tell us Vern, is he wearing a one piece or a bikini ???? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Steve, Do you know… you’re a legend in my kids’ mind for some reason.   I just talked to Norma about he and flying up there.   She said, "tell me about this tourney"   I told her about you and this group, etc.  She said… "Is that the guy that Forrest has on his PC’s wallpaper?" Somehow you’ve made the impression old buddy!   I guess cause he knows you are the dude hosting the tourney.   hehe   I just thought you would like to know.  I thought it was cute that he’s so taken with his buddy "Steve" that he would put your photo on his desktop wallpaper!! … Vern … What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? First of all, "C’MON MOM, LET FORREST COME AND PLAY!!!"  :) Now, the possibility of a rental boat is very real.  I talked to the new owner of TrackSide Marine, my local ProCraft/Fisher dealer.  I told him about you guys, the tournament and so on.   I explained what would be needed for a rental boat, not just a 15 hp outboard on a 14 foot rowboat, that we needed trolling motors, locators, blah, blah, blah.  He’s got a couple of used, trade-in boats that he said he’d rent to any tournament member.  If he didn’t have any appropriate used boats, then he’d take a couple of the Fisher boats and rent them, then sell them as demo’s later.  He just hasn’t figured out a rental fee yet.  More about this will be coming. — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

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Thanks!!!  Now that I know who she is… I wish I didn’t!!!   Makes me sick to my ____ing stomach!!!  Here I fight everyday for a child’s life and she…     I have no words for it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Forget about her… Forgive my stupidity… who is Andrea Yates? Andrea Yates for one. — Consider Him snip |  Personally… I think she’s | overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin | | Thanks again. |

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Steve, Do you know… you’re a legend in my kids’ mind for some reason.   I just talked to Norma about he and flying up there.   She said, "tell me about this tourney"   I told her about you and this group, etc.  She said… "Is that the guy that Forrest has on his PC’s wallpaper?" Somehow you’ve made the impression old buddy!   I guess cause he knows you are the dude hosting the tourney.   hehe   I just thought you would like to know.  I thought it was cute that he’s so taken with his buddy "Steve" that he would put your photo on his desktop wallpaper!! … Vern …

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? First of all, "C’MON MOM, LET FORREST COME AND PLAY!!!"  :) Now, the possibility of a rental boat is very real.  I talked to the new owner of TrackSide Marine, my local ProCraft/Fisher dealer.  I told him about you guys, the tournament and so on.   I explained what would be needed for a rental boat, not just a 15 hp outboard on a 14 foot rowboat, that we needed trolling motors, locators, blah, blah, blah.  He’s got a couple of used, trade-in boats that he said he’d rent to any tournament member.  If he didn’t have any appropriate used boats, then he’d take a couple of the Fisher boats and rent them, then sell them as demo’s later.  He just hasn’t figured out a rental fee yet.  More about this will be coming. — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

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Your suggestion to BassPro is a good one… take a duffle bag or something with essentials.  My ex-mother-in-law once took a flight… packed all her insulin and Delta (notice it wasn’t Continental!) lost her bags!!  We had to find a 24hour pharmacy, call her doctor back home and all that jazz.  Made our trip absolutely miserable! Just curious… who do you work for?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey! I have never flown before either, so even though this may be off-topic, I’m hoping that some of you experienced flyers can answer this for me… Is there a limit on how much luggage a person can bring? I’m only talking about a couple of rod carriers, a couple of boxes for the rest of my gear, and a couple of bags for clothing. Really… I have no idea how to even begin. Generally, you should have no problem with that number of bags. Suggest you take a duffle bag with a change of undies and toothbrush, any medication, or important stuff you don’t want lost, etc. for a carry-on, in case your luggage gets misplaced, or weather and/or maintenance delays keep you stuck someplace. Serious. I WORK for an airline, and I always carry a backpack with the above type stuff in it when I non-rev. travel. Learned the hard way…. B3– Robert E. Longshore

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Hey Charles, Flying is way cool!   Jumping out of planes is even cooler!!  <grin I grew up around the airlines so I would almost always rather fly than drive anywhere that’s more than three hours from home.  Unfortunately it doesn’t always work out that way, but nonetheless I just went over one and a half million air miles this past March.  If it won’t get me in trouble I’ll see what I can arrange for your first ticket.  Just don’t tell anyone.  <grin Here are some baggage guidelines from MY FAVORITE AIRLINE… Continental (you figure out why they are my favorite <grin).   I hope you find them helpful. … Vern … CARRY-ON BAGGAGE – ALLOWANCES Baggage that is carried on board must easily fit within the sizing boxes (L x W x H dimensions 22" x 14" x 9" or 56 cm x 36 cm x 23 cm) which are located at Continental’s ticket counters and departure gates. The maximum combined weight of all carry-on baggage is 40 lbs (18 kg). The maximum combined linear measurement (L + W + H) of all carry-on baggage is 45 inches (114 cm). In addition to the maximum carry-on baggage allowance the following articles may be carried on board the aircraft:     One briefcase     One handbag     One small personal computer (notebook style), camera or walkman/disc player     Personal aid devices, such as crutches or cane Additional carry-on Baggage restrictions may apply on certain flights. CHECKED BAGGAGE – ALLOWANCES Travel Within the U.S.A., including Alaska and Hawaii Maximum number of 3 checked pieces per ticketed customer that adhere to the following size (measured in linear inches or centimeters, total length + width + height) and weight dimensions: 1st bag not to exceed 70 lbs (31 kg) or 62 linear inches (157 cm) 2nd bag not to exceed 70 lbs (31 kg) or 55 linear inches (140 cm) 3rd bag not to exceed 70 lbs (31 kg) 45 linear inches (114 cm) A BusinessFirst customer may check a fourth piece of baggage not to exceed 70 pounds (31 kilograms) or 45 linear inches (114 cm). Boxes are accepted on a voluntary separation and limited liability basis only.    Boxes travel "standby". All oversize or overweight baggage, all boxes and any extra pieces are carried on a space available basis, and may not arrive at customer’s destination for up to five days. Excess baggage is accepted on limited release. CABIN-SEAT BAGGAGE Continental Airlines will allow a customer to purchase a ticket for an item, approved by a Continental agent, which is too fragile or bulky to be handled as checked baggage. The following restrictions apply: Must not exceed 165 lbs (75 kg). Must be packaged or covered in a manner to avoid injury to other customers. Must be secured in a seat adjacent to the owner. Must be properly secured by a seat belt to avoid shifting during flight. Must not restrict access to, or use of, any regular or emergency exit or aisle of the cabin. Must not obscure any customer’s view of "seat belt," "no smoking" or "exit" signage. Must not contain dangerous goods. Must be reserved in advance and applicable charges paid. Please check with a Continental agent for pricing information. EXCESS BAGGAGE All charges are calculated on a one-way basis and are collected at the airport ticket counter. Additional Baggage Checked baggage in excess of the free baggage allowance will be charged as follows: $75 per piece for the first three additional pieces $100 per piece for the fourth, fifth, and sixth additional pieces $175 per piece for the seventh and any additional pieces Overweight Baggage Checked baggage exceeding 70 lbs/32 kgs will be charged at the rate of $75 per piece. These charges are in addition to any charge assessed for additional or oversized baggage. Baggage weighing more than 100 lbs/45 kgs will not be accepted as checked baggage. It may be shipped as air cargo. Please contact Continental Cargo for more details. Oversized Baggage Checked baggage which is larger than Continental’s stated size limits will be charged at the rate of $75 per piece. These charges are in addition to any charge assessed for additional or overweight baggage. Baggage measuring more than 80 in/203 cm (total outside dimensions; length + width + height) will not be accepted as checked baggage. It may be shipped as air cargo. Please contact Continental Cargo for more details. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey! I have never flown before either, so even though this may be off-topic, I’m hoping that some of you experienced flyers can answer this for me… Is there a limit on how much luggage a person can bring? I’m only talking about a couple of rod carriers, a couple of boxes for the rest of my gear, and a couple of bags for clothing. Really… I have no idea how to even begin.

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All right Gill !     Now  you are beginning to make me have second thoughts about flying. I’m not much for the scenic route, and kinda prefer the security of the interstates when I get mis-placed somewhere in Oregon.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( Hello Guys, If I can make it, I won’t go without my boat for sure. I hope there are no Zebra Muscles. 1,800 miles, sleeping in my moutaineer campershell mounted on the back of my 2001 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins Deisel, showers at truckstops, lots of cold sandwitches and plenty of java.  I figure around three days of driving would do it.  If I can go I’ll have to plan a scenic route for the return trip.  My wife already says no to letting the boys go but we can pretty forgetfull when the time comes.  "I’m sure they will always remember a trip like that" Gil

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Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-(

Hello Guys, If I can make it, I won’t go without my boat for sure. I hope there are no Zebra Muscles. 1,800 miles, sleeping in my mountaineer campershell mounted on the back of my 2001 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins Deisel, showers at truckstops, lots of cold sandwitches and plenty of java.  I figure around three days of driving would do it.  If I can go I’ll have to plan a scenic route for the return trip.  My wife already says no to letting the boys go but we can pretty forgetfull when the time comes.  "I’m sure they will always remember a trip like that" Gil

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I’ll take a rental, as long as they’re not ProCrafts!

Why’s that Warren?  Are you worried that after fishing in a ProCraft, you won’t be happy with what you’ve got?  Besides, if you draw me in the tourney, you’ll HAVE to….  :) — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

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Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-(

Hello Guys, If I can make it, I won’t go without my boat for sure. I hope there are no Zebra Muscles. 1,800 miles, sleeping in my moutaineer campershell mounted on the back of my 2001 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins Deisel, showers at truckstops, lots of cold sandwitches and plenty of java.  I figure around three days of driving would do it.  If I can go I’ll have to plan a scenic route for the return trip.  My wife already says no to letting the boys go but we can pretty forgetfull when the time comes.  "I’m sure they will always remember a trip like that" Gil

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Hey! I have never flown before either, so even though this may be off-topic, I’m hoping that some of you experienced flyers can answer this for me… Is there a limit on how much luggage a person can bring? I’m only talking about a couple of rod carriers, a couple of boxes for the rest of my gear, and a couple of bags for clothing. Really… I have no idea how to even begin.

        Generally, you should have no problem with that number of bags. Suggest you take a duffle bag with a change of undies and toothbrush, any medication, or important stuff you don’t want lost, etc. for a carry-on, in case your luggage gets misplaced, or weather and/or maintenance delays keep you stuck someplace. Serious.         I WORK for an airline, and I always carry a backpack with the above type stuff in it when I non-rev. travel. Learned the hard way….         B3– Robert E. Longshore

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I’ll take a rental, as long as they’re not ProCrafts! Warren2;-)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? First of all, "C’MON MOM, LET FORREST COME AND PLAY!!!"  :) Now, the possibility of a rental boat is very real.  I talked to the new owner of TrackSide Marine, my local ProCraft/Fisher dealer.  I told him about you guys, the tournament and so on.   I explained what would be needed for a rental boat, not just a 15 hp outboard on a 14 foot rowboat, that we needed trolling motors, locators, blah, blah, blah.  He’s got a couple of used, trade-in boats that he said he’d rent to any tournament member.  If he didn’t have any appropriate used boats, then he’d take a couple of the Fisher boats and rent them, then sell them as demo’s later.  He just hasn’t figured out a rental fee yet.  More about this will be coming. — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

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Clap, Clap, Clap !!!! Another extra step taken by you Steve, and I applaud you. This was a great job on your part. Thank you . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? First of all, "C’MON MOM, LET FORREST COME AND PLAY!!!"  :) Now, the possibility of a rental boat is very real.  I talked to the new owner of TrackSide Marine, my local ProCraft/Fisher dealer.  I told him about you guys, the tournament and so on.   I explained what would be needed for a rental boat, not just a 15 hp outboard on a 14 foot rowboat, that we needed trolling motors, locators, blah, blah, blah.  He’s got a couple of used, trade-in boats that he said he’d rent to any tournament member.  If he didn’t have any appropriate used boats, then he’d take a couple of the Fisher boats and rent them, then sell them as demo’s later.  He just hasn’t figured out a rental fee yet.  More about this will be coming. — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

– Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest?

First of all, "C’MON MOM, LET FORREST COME AND PLAY!!!"  :) Now, the possibility of a rental boat is very real.  I talked to the new owner of TrackSide Marine, my local ProCraft/Fisher dealer.  I told him about you guys, the tournament and so on.   I explained what would be needed for a rental boat, not just a 15 hp outboard on a 14 foot rowboat, that we needed trolling motors, locators, blah, blah, blah.  He’s got a couple of used, trade-in boats that he said he’d rent to any tournament member.  If he didn’t have any appropriate used boats, then he’d take a couple of the Fisher boats and rent them, then sell them as demo’s later.  He just hasn’t figured out a rental fee yet.  More about this will be coming. — Homepage of the ROFB Northwoods Classic  http://www.uglybass.com/rofbmp

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That’s VERY doable I would suspect.  Didn’t even think of that possibility

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? Thanks old buddy!!   I am sure I will hear something from her now! <grin She has actually suggested an alternative since I last posted… she said maybe he could fly.  Because of his health condition and the likelihood that something could happen while on the road in the middle of "no where" she prefer him not be on the road with me for two days. If something, God Forbid, were to happen and we were on the road and as an example… three hours from the nearest hospital capable of treating him, it would be very tragic to say the least.  So I have to give that to her. It only makes sense that we not risk it. So… I’m working on the flying for him.  Keep the pressure coming… I’ll let you know what she has to say.   I have serious doubts that he will be able to make it at this point but I need to talk to Huber and find out what medical facilities are around there.  Personally… I think she’s overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin Thanks again. I think we should all let Norma know how we feel about Forrest making it to the NWC. Myself, I think it would be a once-in-a-lifetime event for a youngster to mingle with an older generation that would only have his interest at heart and spoil the H*** out of him. At the Open tournaments that my club promotes, whenever we have a young man join his father as a fishing partner, (as young as 7yrs.old), everyone in the crowd makes sure that this young man wants for nothing. The club makes sure that he walks away with more stuff in grab bags than he can hardly carry. So Norma, if you’re reading this with Forrest, please reconsider and let us enjoy our time with him, and maybe give us a memories that we didn’t get to share with our kids when they were his age. You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one? Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know. Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/ — Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248 — Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Andrea Yates for one. — Consider Him

snip |  Personally… I think she’s | overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin | | Thanks again. |

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Forgive my stupidity… who is Andrea Yates?

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Forget about her…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Forgive my stupidity… who is Andrea Yates? Andrea Yates for one. — Consider Him snip |  Personally… I think she’s | overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin | | Thanks again. |

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What’s the possiblity of both of you flying in together, and maybe Huber or Dan Duckworth could find a boat that you could rent for you and Forrest? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks old buddy!!   I am sure I will hear something from her now!  <grin She has actually suggested an alternative since I last posted… she said maybe he could fly.  Because of his health condition and the likelihood that something could happen while on the road in the middle of "no where" she prefer him not be on the road with me for two days. If something, God Forbid, were to happen and we were on the road and as an example… three hours from the nearest hospital capable of treating him, it would be very tragic to say the least.  So I have to give that to her.  It only makes sense that we not risk it. So… I’m working on the flying for him.  Keep the pressure coming… I’ll let you know what she has to say.   I have serious doubts that he will be able to make it at this point but I need to talk to Huber and find out what medical facilities are around there.  Personally… I think she’s overprotective, but what mother isn’t.  <grin Thanks again. I think we should all let Norma know how we feel about Forrest making it to the NWC. Myself, I think it would be a once-in-a-lifetime event for a youngster to mingle with an older generation that would only have his interest at heart and spoil the H*** out of him. At the Open tournaments that my club promotes, whenever we have a young man join his father as a fishing partner, (as young as 7yrs.old), everyone in the crowd makes sure that this young man wants for nothing. The club makes sure that he walks away with more stuff in grab bags than he can hardly carry. So Norma, if you’re reading this with Forrest, please reconsider and let us enjoy our time with him, and maybe give us a memories that we didn’t get to share with our kids when they were his age. You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one? Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know. Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/ — Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

– Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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I think we should all let Norma know how we feel about Forrest making it to the NWC. Myself, I think it would be a once-in-a-lifetime event for a youngster to mingle with an older generation that would only have his interest at heart and spoil the H*** out of him. At the Open tournaments that my club promotes, whenever we have a young man join his father as a fishing partner, (as young as 7yrs.old), everyone in the crowd makes sure that this young man wants for nothing. The club makes sure that he walks away with more stuff in grab bags than he can hardly carry. So Norma, if you’re reading this with Forrest, please reconsider and let us enjoy our time with him, and maybe give us a memories that we didn’t get to share with our kids when they were his age. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one?  Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know. Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/

– Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Sure wish that I was closer, Charles, we’d be hittin’ them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sounds good to me! Sorry to hear that Forrest can’t make it, must be school conflicts I’m sure. Are you nearby Wisconsin? After doing the math, I’ve decided that flying there would be cheaper than two days of driving and renting a motel room somewhere in between. Then you can taking in account all of the stops that I’ll be making for food…WOW! Sure, a person has to eat, but being on the road that long without my computer, what else would I be thinking about. hehe… Hey! I have never flown before either, so even though this may be off-topic, I’m hoping that some of you experienced flyers can answer this for me… Is there a limit on how much luggage a person can bring? I’m only talking about a couple of rod carriers, a couple of boxes for the rest of my gear, and a couple of bags for clothing. Really… I have no idea how to even begin. Guess I’ll have to do come research on this, but all of this work that’s been piled on me this week is slowing my "fun time" planning down a bit. I am going to say the *heck with it* on thursday night, and go try to catch that millioin dollar fish that’s been placed in the Priest!!!  Kris, you joining me? You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one? Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know.

– Jerry Barton http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Sounds good to me! Sorry to hear that Forrest can’t make it, must be school conflicts I’m sure. Are you nearby Wisconsin? After doing the math, I’ve decided that flying there would be cheaper than two days of driving and renting a motel room somewhere in between. Then you can taking in account all of the stops that I’ll be making for food…WOW! Sure, a person has to eat, but being on the road that long without my computer, what else would I be thinking about. hehe… Hey! I have never flown before either, so even though this may be off-topic, I’m hoping that some of you experienced flyers can answer this for me… Is there a limit on how much luggage a person can bring? I’m only talking about a couple of rod carriers, a couple of boxes for the rest of my gear, and a couple of bags for clothing. Really… I have no idea how to even begin. Guess I’ll have to do come research on this, but all of this work that’s been piled on me this week is slowing my "fun time" planning down a bit. I am going to say the *heck with it* on thursday night, and go try to catch that millioin dollar fish that’s been placed in the Priest!!!  Kris, you joining me?

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Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/

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You’re flying?   It doesn’t look like Forrest is going to be able to make the tourney afterall… you know how ex-wifes are (are you reading this So… would you like to take the back seat in my boat for this one?  Heck… you could even have the front seat if you wanted it.  Let me know.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok… What I am needing is either driving info, or flying info getting to the NWC. I’m favoring flying because it’s cheaper and less travel time. But… Where do I fly to? Also, I don’t have the web-site for it and was wondering where everyone was staying? I think Steve had a motel on alert or something. Info… Info… Info… needed. If I don’t start planning now…. I’ll go crazier by September!  :-( — http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/thebasspro/themmightybass/

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And then I got it. Sorry long day in the sun without any fish…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You what? Yes, well, I bet you don

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Hi, Your best bet is to go to a Fly fishing show and pick up a C or ungraded neck there. A C neck will run about $65 and at the show you’ll be able to pick through the necks that they have there. Paul

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… at the show you’ll be able to pick through the necks that they have there.

If it’s cheap ‘necks you want, might I suggest a NASCAR or WWF event? –Steve

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www.myflyshop.com Michael and Young in British Columbia – I saw necks there for $82 Cdn. At about 63 cents US buys a Canadian dollar so it should be a good buy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

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I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

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JR writes: I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

Hunter has a grade A for 125 and a B for $100.  I bought an ungraded for $60 — it was the best of the ungraded they had.  They also sell them by the ten pack for $5.95 — you get to select the size, small, medium, or large.   They are at: www.huntersangling.com, or 1-800-331-8558. hth Dave

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I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

yes, but they won’t be as primo quality, which is just fine for fishing flies.  dave quoted some prices, i guess they are pretty standard. there are some shops in the northwest that carry them if you want to stay local.  let me know and i can e-mail you a number or two of shops in washington state. cb

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Hello cb, It is my observation that grading Jungle Cock necks is pretty subjective and varies considerably depending on the vendor.  Over the years, I have often seen second grade necks which were in my estimation better than first grade.  The most important consideration by far is the number of feathers of a useful size in the neck.  The second thing most people look at is whether the feathers are split or not and then maybe the color, which is the least important factor.  In my opinion, whether the feathers are split or not is not very important.  For actual fishing, the fish won’t care. For photographing or display, you can apply a drop of  head cement to the back side and tease the split together before you tie them in – the split won’t be noticeable unless someone is specifically looking for it. Personally, I would select a cheaper neck with split feathers over an expensive one with fewer but unsplit feathers.  For something as costly as a Jungle Cock neck, I would first look at as many necks as possible before buying and I would not buy by mail order because of the subjectivity of grading. Best regards, Yuji Sakuma – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR yes, but they won’t be as primo quality, which is just fine for fishing flies.  dave quoted some prices, i guess they are pretty standard. there are some shops in the northwest that carry them if you want to stay local.  let me know and i can e-mail you a number or two of shops in washington state. cb

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Yes and no. ) Frank (it ain’t me in Elkhart) Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The good Senator and I were not related and didn’t share the same politics either. Of course that’s JUST what we could expect you to say under the circumstances! Got any ID bub?  Would you agree to a DNA analysis?    

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This post was posted to a UK fishing group.  I thought it might interest some of you.  I am sure the original posters will not mind me copying it, as I have corresponded with them both in the past. TL MC I realize this is a bit off-topic, but my daughter saw this and asked me to ask ‘the nice British fisherman’ about it. The Canadian News has picked up a story about a journalist who was literally branded by the "ALF" (Animal Liberation Front?) . Is this true? Are these the same nutters who attack fisherman and throw bricks at their floats, smash their rods, etc? If they are, it’s very chilling. It’s one thing to disagree. Another to actually take hot iron to a man’s back for disagreeing.

Peter, Sadly it’s true The journalist in question had written, exposing some of the more extremist members of the ALF.  He was kidnapped and held in fear of his life.  Hooded with a hesian sack, he expected execution.  When he felt the pain, and smelled the burning flesh, he realised he had been branded.  A.L.-F across his back in very large letters.  I guess that the perpetuators felt that this was only a small payback for the pain and suffering caused daily to animals in laboratories etc.  Sick, sick, sick and twisted people The extremists in the Animals Rights and Anti-angling circles tend to be the same small group of people, surrounded both by harmless nutters and well-meaning (we would think misguided) people.

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Anbody wishing to see the original article: Click on the following link and then ‘Britain’: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/frontpage.html?999 The article is about a quarter of the way down the page. TL MC

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This post was posted to a UK fishing group.  I thought it might interest some of you.  I am sure the original posters will not mind me copying it, as I have corresponded with them both in the past. TL MC

ALF is a terrorist group, no debate about it.  I find if utterly shocking that these people seem to think that animals are equal or more important than humans.  I can’t imagine where these people get their convictions, but they can’t possibly be healthy, IMO. — Levi Always do sober what you said you’d do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. –Ernest Hemingway

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ALF is a terrorist group, no debate about it.  I find if utterly shocking that these people seem to think that animals are equal or more important than humans.  I can’t imagine where these people get their convictions, but they can’t possibly be healthy, IMO.

You don’t suppose that they take into account man’s inhumanity to man on this planet and have decided animals act better towards each other?  You know the old saying, "The more I know about people the more I love my cat/dog/sheep/etc etc."  That same feeling creeps up on me more and more often these days. Frank (stirring the pot in Elkhart) Church

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You don’t suppose that they take into account man’s inhumanity to man on this planet and have decided animals act better towards each other?  You know the old saying, "The more I know about people the more I love my cat/dog/sheep/etc etc."  That same feeling creeps up on me more and more often these days. Frank (stirring the pot in Elkhart) Church

Your ommission of Louie LaPlac’s goat, affectionately known as Mildred, will be noted as the insult it is. Mark Faulkner

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Louie, please relay my apologies to Mildred as I would never intentionally insult someone who is obviously adored by you.  Sorry. (think that’ll do it Mark?) Frank (goatbreath) Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You don’t suppose that they take into account man’s inhumanity to man on this planet and have decided animals act better towards each other?  You know the old saying, "The more I know about people the more I love my cat/dog/sheep/etc etc."  That same feeling creeps up on me more and more often these days. Frank (stirring the pot in Elkhart) Church Your ommission of Louie LaPlac’s goat, affectionately known as Mildred, will be noted as the insult it is. Mark Faulkner

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Don’t some animals eat their young?  I am also waiting for some Animal Rights Activist to show me a hospital built by animals. Weren’t you a Senator from Idaho before you died? DP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ALF is a terrorist group, no debate about it.  I find if utterly shocking that these people seem to think that animals are equal or more important than humans.  I can’t imagine where these people get their convictions, but they can’t possibly be healthy, IMO. You don’t suppose that they take into account man’s inhumanity to man on this planet and have decided animals act better towards each other?  You know the old saying, "The more I know about people the more I love my cat/dog/sheep/etc etc."  That same feeling creeps up on me more and more often these days. Frank (stirring the pot in Elkhart) Church

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You don’t suppose that they take into account man’s inhumanity to man on this planet and have decided animals act better towards each other?  You know the old saying, "The more I know about people the more I love my cat/dog/sheep/etc etc. That same feeling creeps up on me more and more often these days.

I guess the fact that many animals routinely kill and eat other animals for sustenance, (sometimes including the young of their own species), doesn’t enter into the equation. George "turning up the fire a notch" Adams

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Don’t some animals eat their young?

Yes, some animals do eat their young, sows can lay on their piglets and suffocate most or all of them, a tomcat will kill every kitten in the litter if he can whup mama cat first, and on and on, but that’s nature’s way, in no way can it be equated with with mans actions.  Screw PETA, ALF and all the rest of these wackos. Weren’t you a Senator from Idaho before you died?

I see you remember Senator Frank Church of Idaho.  Evidently he wasn’t too popular in some quarters in Idaho.  One time I stopped for gas in a small town there, gave the guy my credit card, whereupon after seeing the name on the card, gave me a squinty-eyed look and asked, "are you related to Senator Frank Church?"  I’m not, and said so, but might have denied it in any case as he looked ready to dump sugar in my gas tank or some other dastardly deed.  The good Senator and I were not related and didn’t share the same politics either.

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Absolutely not George, as I stated in an earlier post, equating the animal kingdom which operates on inborn instinct to do what is necessary to survive, to "man" is bogus.  Ascribing human traits to animals is a mistake. So if a tomcat kills the litter of kittens he finds, we are horrified.  But he does that for a reason…..he is "offing" future competition for breeding the available female cats.  But if humans do that, it is mass murder.  The two don’t equate at any level.  My favorite pussy cat, who purrs on my lap and nuzzles me, and makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, will sneak out in the yard and try to kill a bird….she is living in two worlds, ours and hers. If I catch her eating a bird do I beat the shit out of her…no way.  I recognize she still has that hunter instinct of her breed.  We, on the other hand, are supposed to be "civilized," whatever the hell that means in this day and age. Frank (trying to piss on George’s fire) Church

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Ascribing human traits to animals is a mistake.

Frank, I guess I misunderstood your your post, because I thought that was exactly what you were doing. (i.e. "good" animals vs. "bad" humans) Animals are niether good nor bad…..they are just animals. A rattlesnake can kill you, and a dog can be your faithful companion for many years, but is the dog "better" than the rattlesnake? I don’t think so….they are what they are. Humans are subject to many failings, and because we have free will we can be held accountable for our actions, and judged by our peers to be good or bad. As more people populate the earth, we will see more of the bad, especially since the media will show it to us at every opportunity.  On the whole, are animals "better" than humans? I say no. George Adams

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I see you remember Senator Frank Church of Idaho.  Evidently he wasn’t too popular in some quarters in Idaho.  One time I stopped for gas in a small town there, gave the guy my credit card, whereupon after seeing the name on the card, gave me a squinty-eyed look and asked, "are you related to Senator Frank Church?"  I’m not, and said so, but might have denied it in any case as he looked ready to dump sugar in my gas tank or some other dastardly deed.  The good Senator and I were not related and didn’t share the same politics either.

Sen. Frank Church was one of the all-time great national figures. He did more for conservation anyone else in politics I can think of, with the possible exception of Teddy Rooseveldt. The Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho is named after him. It’s spectacular, enclosing the finest wilderness river in the lower 48 — the Middle Fork of the Salmon. I’m just sickened by the cast of disreputable characters that have taken over Idaho politics at the national level. I miss you, Frank, and I miss Sen.Chafee of Rhode Island, a Republican who wasn’t afraid to stand up for the public interest. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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You’re right of course, and Sen. Church should have been recognized with having a wilderness area named in his honor, at the least.  I didn’t mean to denigrate him, and hope you didn’t take it that way.  

Of course I didn’t, Frank. I’m sorry to have implied that. The FCWA is some spectacular country that I’d love to see up close and personal, like say, astride a horse on a pack-in flyfishing trip.

What you have to do is to take a week-long raft trip down the Middle Fork. There are other ways to see this country, but a raft (or drift boat) trip is the best. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see you remember Senator Frank Church of Idaho.  Evidently he wasn’t too popular in some quarters in Idaho.  One time I stopped for gas in a small town there, gave the guy my credit card, whereupon after seeing the name on the card, gave me a squinty-eyed look and asked, "are you related to Senator Frank Church?"  I’m not, and said so, but might have denied it in any case as he looked ready to dump sugar in my gas tank or some other dastardly deed.  The good Senator and I were not related and didn’t share the same politics either. Sen. Frank Church was one of the all-time great national figures. He did more for conservation anyone else in politics I can think of, with the possible exception of Teddy Rooseveldt. The Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho is named after him. It’s spectacular, enclosing the finest wilderness river in the lower 48 — the Middle Fork of the Salmon. I’m just sickened by the cast of disreputable characters that have taken over Idaho politics at the national level. I miss you, Frank, and I miss Sen.Chafee of Rhode Island, a Republican who wasn’t afraid to stand up for the public interest. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

They named the north loop in Dallas the LBJ Freeway in honor of LBJ because they stole all of the land.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sen. Frank Church was one of the all-time great national figures. He did more for conservation anyone else in politics I can think of, with the possible exception of Teddy Rooseveldt. The Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho is named after him. It’s spectacular, enclosing the finest wilderness river in the lower 48 — the Middle Fork of the Salmon. I’m just sickened by the cast of disreputable characters that have taken over Idaho politics at the national level. I miss you, Frank, and I miss Sen.Chafee of Rhode Island, a Republican who wasn’t afraid to stand up for the public interest.

You’re right of course, and Sen. Church should have been recognized with having a wilderness area named in his honor, at the least.  I didn’t mean to denigrate him, and hope you didn’t take it that way.  The FCWA is some spectacular country that I’d love to see up close and personal, like say, astride a horse on a pack-in flyfishing trip. That will probably never happen but at least it’s nice to know it’s there, and waiting. Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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They named the north loop in Dallas the LBJ Freeway in honor of LBJ because they stole all of the land.

        in view of the fact that "land stealing" is a well known core component of successful capitalism, i should think that lbj would occupy a prime space in your pantheon of heroes, david.         not that i, too, am *not* a capitalist; it just seems that if one is labeled a "democrat" (whatever that is), you refuse to believe that he can also be a capitalist.  i think you will have to admit that materialism is no respecter of political labels. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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   in view of the fact that "land stealing" is a well known core component of successful capitalism, i should think that lbj would occupy a prime space in your pantheon of heroes, david.

Not to mention the fact that LBJ was a *serious* poon hound<g. — Charlie…

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LBJ because they stole all of the land. My parents house was just a couple of miles north of where they built the LBJ Freeway and in our house it was always refered to as the SOB Freeway. Big Dale

But there was no one better at getting out the cementary vote than LBJ. Whether you were a republican or democrat…if you were dead…you always casted your vote for Lyndon. obroff (this one should be fun): How many believe that LBJ had a hand in the Dallas assassination of JFK? Waldo — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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LBJ because they stole all of the land.

My parents house was just a couple of miles north of where they built the LBJ Freeway and in our house it was always refered to as the SOB Freeway. Big Dale

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obroff (this one should be fun): How many believe that LBJ had a hand in the Dallas assassination of JFK? Waldo

Just a note Waldo, the MOSAD ran a full scale scenario of the Dallas shooting with their best marksmen and could not duplicate the event. Their official report said that Oswald didn’t do it.  The KGB didn’t do it and the Kremlin believed Kennedy to be the one man in Washington they could trust to some degree.  I wonder if they have the same faith in Clinton? Remember the quote from the Navigator in Dune?  "…plots within plots, within plots…" — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Remember the quote from the Navigator in Dune?  "…plots within plots, within plots…"

Wayne, for an old feller you sure seem rather adept with pop culture references. Mu

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In article <Pine.SOL.4.10.9911101035150.17986- Wayne, for an old feller you sure seem rather adept with pop culture references. Mu

Mu, I’ve never been too bashful to steal the good stuff from anybody’s culture!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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The good Senator and I were not related and didn’t share the same politics either.

Of course that’s JUST what we could expect you to say under the circumstances! Got any ID bub?  Would you agree to a DNA analysis?    

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How many believe that LBJ had a hand in the Dallas assassination of JFK?

Dallas assassinated an airport?  Huh?  Where was I in ‘63?

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Will be fishing at Spinney and/or Eleven Mile in a few days.  Any info on northern pike or other fishing would be appreciated.  Thanks

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Will be fishing at Spinney and/or Eleven Mile in a few days.  Any info on northern pike or other fishing would be appreciated.  Thanks

Big spoons in the 2-3 ft deep weedy shallows if you are casting. Black or yellow zonkers or BIG wolly buggers in the same place if you are fly fishing. If you have to fish from shore, you are pretty much out of luck. cheers oz

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Call this number for info- 1-719-748-3424  Elevenmile Store This is an article(1997) from Fishng & Hunting MAG Sleep Late, then fish the shallows at Elevenmile Resevoir and you’ll catch Northern Pike.  Pike aren’t noted for being early feeders so theres no point in fishing the lake until after 10 am.  The bite gets underway in late morning, then it tapers off in early afternoon and picks back up again around 5:30 pm. Elevenmile is loaded with pike.  The majority of them are in he 18-26 inch range but there are some fish over 30 inches in the lake, and probably some are getting close to 40 inches now. Some of the favorite spots include: Parking lot cove- west of the Corral Cove parking lot East Bay The Columnist, Ed Marsh prefers to use Stickbaits, like the Luhr Jenson Minnow in the fire tiger pattern(4 1/2 inches) All of the coves mentioned are shallow and weedy, and you definetly need waders to fish them properly.  From the shoreline you simply cannot cast far enough to cover enough water for fishing. Another bit of advice.  If you go there, the afternoons here in Colorado are very windy, so don’t go too far in a belly boat(Experience!) Most people I know who go to Elevinemile for pike use large Rapalas colored like Rainbow Trout and do pretty well. Also, if you use smaller spoons, you’ll probably hook up with some of the trout that haven’t been eaten by the Pike! Dan Dow Check my page- http://community-2.webtv.net/dandow/KINGFISHEROFTHEWORLD/page2.html thanks!

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Going to Colorado next week to fish for northern pike.  Any tips would be appreciated.  Thanks, Ed.

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where do you expect to find northern pike in Colorado? there  are a few lakes on the front range where the tiger musky has been stocked but i never heard of any northern in colorado.

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What lakes are you fishing?  Bring your coat! Going to Colorado next week to fish for northern pike.  Any tips would be appreciated.  Thanks, Ed.

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From what I’ve heard, there’s plenty of pike in various Colorado lakes, albiet I’ve heard there somewhat over populated and sizes tend to run on the hammer handle size. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – where do you expect to find northern pike in Colorado? there  are a few lakes on the front range where the tiger musky has been stocked but i never heard of any northern in colorado. Going to Colorado next week to fish for northern pike.  Any tips would be appreciated.  Thanks, Ed.

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Spinney Mountain Reservoir has plenty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – From what I’ve heard, there’s plenty of pike in various Colorado lakes, albiet I’ve heard there somewhat over populated and sizes tend to run on the hammer handle size. where do you expect to find northern pike in Colorado? there  are a few lakes on the front range where the tiger musky has been stocked but i never heard of any northern in colorado. Going to Colorado next week to fish for northern pike.  Any tips would be appreciated.  Thanks, Ed.

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Don’t let a little rain dampen your fishing!  Last weekend the west coast of Florida suffered a deluge; 12 to 15 inches of rain in two days.  As crazy as it sounds two brothers from Charleston, SC showed up wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper.  All I can say is Mal and Jim Rhodes are as game a couple of crazies as their intrepid guide.        Thursday last the sky was cloudy and the air heavy with the coming storm.  Phil Saul asked me to take him snook fishing and, because Phil is an expert with a bait casting rod, I opted for top water plugs.  We took fish all morning with a variety of lures; Mirrolures, Reel Magic, Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.  There is little that tops the resounding strike of a snook on top water.  It sound like a rifle report!  Kraak!      Here is a tip for anglers that love top water fishing.  When you find an active tide under a cloudy sky and a dropping barometer it’s time to pull out the big rods.  The fish will searching the mangrove edges for wayward mullet and larger bait fish.  If the water is a little choppy try a noisy bait like a Zara Spook or Jumpin’ Minnow.  When in calmer conditions go to a Mirrolure, Bait Buster or Reel Magic, lures that push water and disturb the surface.  Capt. Dennis Lily did just that last week and was rewarded with a ten snook day, all on top water. Great action!      Next week will see some different activity.  Mackerel, Bonito and Kingfish are showing up crashing the schools of bait that roam our near shore gulf water.  Some of the first winter low tides will occur causing redfish to tail on the flats.  Today we found numerous "flags" along the grass edges of fully exposed bars.  A top water fly or a surface film lure like a Reel Magic will attract a lot of attention from some very nice redfish.  Snook activity is on the increase in the back country as the fish move from the gulf into their winter locations.  Expect to find snook almost everywhere.        Our next report will include an update on inshore fishing for sheepshead and snapper.  It will not be long before a few triple tail will make their appearance on the crab trap buoys.  Watch for a subtle change to winter conditions over the next few weeks.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper. Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete

Well "Capt." sure hope you were just catching and releasing all them fish. The last time I checked the limits: Redfish limit 1 (27"MAX) Snook limit 2 As far as the "we didn’t even count the trout and snapper….Here is a list for you to look over, some of us fishermen use and obey it. Amberjack…28" minimum/fork…bag 3 (New: one fish per person in Monroe County) Bluefish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Bonefish…18" minimum/overall…bag 1 Cobia…33" minimum/fork…bag 2 Dolphin…bag 10 Drum, Black…14" min/overall…24" max/overall…bag 5 Flounder…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Grouper (a)…20" minimum/overall…bag 5 Hogfish…12" minimum/fork…bag 5 Mackerel, Spanish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Mackerel, king…20" minimum/fork…bag 2 Marlin, blue…86" minimum (b)…bag (b) Marlin, white…62" minimum (b)…bag (b) Mullet…bag 50 per boat Permit…10" min/overall…20" max/overall…bag 10 (c) Pompano, African…24" minimum/fork…bag 2 (c) Pompano, Florida…10" minimum/fork…bag 10 (c) Redfish…18" min/overall…27" max/overall…bag 1 Sailfish…57" minimum (b)…bag (b) Seabass…8" minimum/overall Sheepshead…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Seatrout, spotted (e)…  15" min/fork…20" max/overall (e)…bag 5 Seatrout, spotted, NW zone (e)…  15" min/fork…24" max/overall (e)…bag 7 Shad…bag 10 Shark…bag 1 (f) Snapper: cubera…12" minimum/overall…bag (g) Snapper: gray (mangrove)…10" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: lane…8" minimum/overall Snapper: Mutton…16" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: vermilion (Atlantic)…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 Snapper: vermilion (Gulf)…8" minimum/overall Snapper: queen, blackfin, dog, mahogany, silk, yellowtail  12" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: red (Gulf)…15" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: red (Atlantic)…20" minimum/overall…bag 2 (g) Snapper: schoolmaster…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Spearfish…bag (b) Tarpon (h)…bag 2 Triggerfish, gray…12" minimum/overall Tripletail…15" minimum/fork…bag 2

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Old Crow, You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake?

Yes you do and you make highly insulting insinuations You do your namesake proud,  Hope that shoe isn’t squeezing your toes too bad.

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Old Crow, Congratulations,  You have just made the biggest blunder on any of these boards.  Capt. Pete is one of the most respected and conservation minded Capts. on the FL west coast. You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper. Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete Well "Capt." sure hope you were just catching and releasing all them fish. The last time I checked the limits: Redfish limit 1 (27"MAX) Snook limit 2 As far as the "we didn’t even count the trout and snapper….Here is a list for you to look over, some of us fishermen use and obey it. Amberjack…28" minimum/fork…bag 3 (New: one fish per person in Monroe County) Bluefish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Bonefish…18" minimum/overall…bag 1 Cobia…33" minimum/fork…bag 2 Dolphin…bag 10 Drum, Black…14" min/overall…24" max/overall…bag 5 Flounder…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Grouper (a)…20" minimum/overall…bag 5 Hogfish…12" minimum/fork…bag 5 Mackerel, Spanish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Mackerel, king…20" minimum/fork…bag 2 Marlin, blue…86" minimum (b)…bag (b) Marlin, white…62" minimum (b)…bag (b) Mullet…bag 50 per boat Permit…10" min/overall…20" max/overall…bag 10 (c) Pompano, African…24" minimum/fork…bag 2 (c) Pompano, Florida…10" minimum/fork…bag 10 (c) Redfish…18" min/overall…27" max/overall…bag 1 Sailfish…57" minimum (b)…bag (b) Seabass…8" minimum/overall Sheepshead…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Seatrout, spotted (e)…  15" min/fork…20" max/overall (e)…bag 5 Seatrout, spotted, NW zone (e)…  15" min/fork…24" max/overall (e)…bag 7 Shad…bag 10 Shark…bag 1 (f) Snapper: cubera…12" minimum/overall…bag (g) Snapper: gray (mangrove)…10" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: lane…8" minimum/overall Snapper: Mutton…16" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: vermilion (Atlantic)…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 Snapper: vermilion (Gulf)…8" minimum/overall Snapper: queen, blackfin, dog, mahogany, silk, yellowtail  12" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: red (Gulf)…15" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: red (Atlantic)…20" minimum/overall…bag 2 (g) Snapper: schoolmaster…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Spearfish…bag (b) Tarpon (h)…bag 2 Triggerfish, gray…12" minimum/overall Tripletail…15" minimum/fork…bag 2

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Old Crow, Congratulations,  You have just made the biggest blunder on any of these boards.  Capt. Pete is one of the most respected and conservation minded Capts. on the FL west coast.

No I didn’t blunder.  I’m not the one who posted about the number or size of the catch.  If the good old Capt had posted that he caught his limit, or caught and released___ many fish, that would have been fine.   If he runs a head boat he could have stated x number aboard, his comments were I quote "In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper.  All I can say is Mal and Jim Rhodes are as game a couple of crazies as their intrepid guide". Now lets see…the Capt makes one, Mel and Jim make 3 times two days… by the book the limit would be SIX (6). You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

OK Tim, this is an ad so I consider it fair game!   — William J. Hobson, CNE,CNA Network and Computing Support Services Texas Engineering Experiment Station Phone: (409) 845-5808

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PLEASE EVERY BODY dont wast your money on this, if you want real advise book a charter boat captian, they’ll teach you how to do all that with PRIVATE instruction and are usually CHEAPER. Here is one I know http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/toccoa/Default.htm#Captain -Paradoxal – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where:  Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When:  November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors:  3 Theme:  "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features:       1. Actual fishing with your instructors                         2. All instructors present at all times                         3. Minimum classroom time                         4. Instructional text book                         5. Finest Sage rods                         6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes:       1. All tackle                 2. Fishing license                 3. Lunch and refreshments                 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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I would echo Tom Hewitt’s comment re: standing in a canoe
to flyfish.  Canoes are an excellent platform if you want to develop the skill. I would note, however, that not all canoes
perform equally for this purpose.  As mentioned in Tom’s article
flat, shallow-v, and shallow-arch bottomed boats in general are
better choices to begin with. But keep in mind that your own sense of balance will determine which boat you feel most comfortable in.  Some v-hulled canoes are rather narrow (33 inches and less for 16′ length) and tho stable feeling while sitting, grow inherently less stable as the the center
of gravity moves higher compared to wider (34" up width) boats.
There are several ways to become accustomed to standing in a
canoe to flyfish or pole, or to scout a rapid, etc…  One would be to simply take the boat you have now and start practicing.
The second would be to borrow or use as flat-bottomed a boat as you can find and start at that level.  Progress to a better quality canoe as you feel more capable.  Your progress will be
limited only by your tenacity.  Even so, it is not a hard skill
to learn.
One can also attach sponsons or outriggers to add a measure of safety and security to your initial efforts.  However, these add-ons are not very portable, interfere with the maneuverability of the canoe, and are only necessary if one’s sense of balance is not particularly good.  Purchasing or building
these appertenances is a personal call.  Look in the classified section of Paddler or Canoe and Kayak magazine for info on these products. As to finding a used boat.  Good luck.  Good quality used canoes are snapped up pretty quickly and are hard to find. One suggestion that might pan out is your local canoe club.  Members
are always buying and swapping.  Call the American Canoe Assoc.
member club that is closest to you to get info.  Their web address
is: http://www.aca-paddler.org/
Dave Hadden, Owner
Vision Canoes
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May your Christmas Present be an Orvis Bamboo with a Guide missing! Mr. Gink — MZ

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May your Christmas Present be an Orvis Bamboo with a Guide missing!

Oh yeah ?!?!?!? Well…may you get the same thing, and break it when you drop your "Tickle Me Elmo" on it, which breaks as well… TimW

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Fly Fishing Products Manufacturer    May your Christmas Present be an Orvis Bamboo with a Guide missing!    Mr. Gink AND, that you live in a climate where you can’t use it for growing tomatoes! cheers,         -tgades

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I am looking for some good spots for Saltwater-flyfishing in the vicinity of Boston (MA). Any suggestions for good spots, how to get and fish there are welcome. Thank,   Thomas

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: I am looking for some good spots for Saltwater-flyfishing in the : vicinity of Boston (MA). Any suggestions for good spots, how to get and : fish there are welcome. : Thank,   Thomas In Ma, I am told that the Joppa flats in Newburyport at low tide and Cranes beach in Ipswitch at all tides produce well. However, So. ME is close and there are many spots. I am partial to the beach in front of my house at Ferry Beach in Saco. The nice thing this summer was that the angler could see fish sign-either birds working or fish breaking. June was the best month. Come up next summer. I will give you directions.  y t, m

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