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Any opinions on what will be hatching this Thursday, with 90 degree weather last week, snow today, and low water?   On the river I’ll be fishing, on 4/25 I would expect the end of the Quill Gordons, some Blue Quills, the beginning of the Hendricksons, maybe some Shad Fly caddis.  But, with the odd weather, heaven knows what’s happening and I’d appreciate some opinions, founded in current observation or not. Thanks in advance. Glenn GKT

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Any opinions on what will be hatching this Thursday, with 90 degree weather last week, snow today, and low water?   On the river I’ll be fishing, on 4/25 I would expect the end of the Quill Gordons, some Blue Quills, the beginning of the Hendricksons, maybe some Shad Fly caddis.  But, with the odd weather, heaven knows what’s happening and I’d appreciate some opinions, founded in current observation or not.

How are the water temps compared to what they would normally be?  IMO, that is a very important, if not THE most important, part of the "equation." — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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I think you’re right but I won’t know the exact temperature for that stream until I get there.  They are probably near normal now, most likely following a small spike during the four hot days. GlennHow are the water temps compared to what they would normally be?  IMO, that is a very important, if not THE most important, part of the "equation." — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

GKT

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I think you’re right but I won’t know the exact temperature for that stream until I get there.  They are probably near normal now, most likely following a small spike during the four hot days.

Sometimes you can get water temps from the USGS Streamflow reports.  Look around http://mt.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/help/?redirect=rt_www_redirect — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection.

  Thanks for the info.  Let us know the date of next year’s event. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

  Oh, no.  They moved Laramie?  I really liked the old location:)   Boy, that sounds like a good time.  If I wasn’t all traveled out, I’d go. Also, the ice is going off.  Time to do some local fishing, finally. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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i think you mean west of cheyenne….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

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  Oh, no.  They moved Laramie?  I really liked the old location:)   Boy, that sounds like a good time.

    Drag your sorry ass down; me and Willi are going.

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    Drag your sorry ass down; me and Willi are going.

  Well, that’s just not fair.  The two guys I know who least need any education in the fly fishing field get to go and the guy who could really benefit has a severe case of jet lag and there’s no way I could have made it to Laramie.   Man, I’m beat.  On March 6th & 7th, I was on the Bighorn.  On the 8th, I drove home to Buffalo, changed gear and drove to Denver so I could be airborne to Orlando on Sat. am.  I went with my retired pilot friends to the EAA fly in at Lakeland.  I got to fly first class both ways and got to drink some first class gin & tonics.  (I’m back on the wagon, now.)  I went from 10 degrees on the ‘horn to 85 degrees with big time humidity in Fla.  How the heck to folks live down there?   The fishing on the Bighorn was really slow.  Everyone caught some fish on Wed. when we floated from mile 3 to Bighorn.  No surface action and the fly rod guides didn’t stay thawed out to about 2:00 pm.  We stayed at Cottonwood and noticed the place was packed.  We decided to float the lower river, Bighorn to Mallard, in the hopes there wouldn’t be a crowd.  That panned out.  But, there were no fish caught by the 5 in our group.  We’d never fished that stretch so it was interesting to see some new country.  There was a lot of "fishy" looking water and the water was pretty clear.  There are some pretty good fishermen in our group so I was very surprised that there were no fish caught.  I guess the buys did pretty good on Friday when they fished from afterbay to mile 3 but the river was very crowded.   Has anyone heard of any talk about a pretty heavy fish kill on the ‘horn?  A couple of months ago, we saw a large number of dead fish on the bottom.  There’s been some talk of last years low flows impacting the fish population.   The stream in town is ice free and I’m going out this afternoon to see if any local lakes have opened up.  Life is good:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

~^beancounter~^ added: i think you mean west of cheyenne…..

the wind can blow pretty hard up here…. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

  So tell us about the seminar. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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What is the TITLE of this tape and who is selling it I wonder? Does anyone know? George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb. This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb. What is the TITLE of this tape and who is selling it I wonder? Does anyone know?

It’s something of his own that Jack had, and as much as he’d like to incorporate it into a complete video, one of the key people involved in making it is hard to locate. Until he can get this person’s permission to borrow the footage for a new video (on streamer fishing), there won’t be one. I wouldn’t say never, but I would say to be patient and watch for it. Until then, if you’re at any sports show where Jack is doing a seminar on streamer fishing, go to it and you’ll probably see the footage. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies), we arrived at the UW campus just as some famous people were breaking for lunch. The afternoon was spent at a symposium where more famous people talked about progressive water right laws like we’ll NEVER see in Colorado, but before you knew it, it was about beer-thirty, so Willi and I headed downtown and killed a little time before the banquet. The banquet was very nice, the food was excellent and Rusty’s chapter even threw in a host bar (my chapter would be in the red if they ever did anything as foolhardy), I spent an hour juggling free booze while trying not to look too interested in the silent auction painting I was determined to take home. After dinner Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson gave a very touching slide show, which dedicated the Gary Lafontaine library collection. I won a bunch of cool junk I have no use for at the raffle, so I’ll probably send some of it with Willi to the Penn’s Clave. Enjoyed a great Fuente on the drive home.

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies)

That’s Charlie’s joke, not mine! Willi

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies),

jeff can’t play da ‘jo worth sheet. only din tom picks iz heez nose. no worry willi, afta a few swigs of the mountain brew, ya ain’t gonna hear the music…. gusto..

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Clave. Enjoyed a great Fuente on the drive home.

Just took delivery from London of a dozen Opus X’s, and a box of Romeo and Julietta’s. Came right through customs marked "cigars". Now if I just had a damn trip to a stream to smoke a few.

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Just took delivery from London of a dozen Opus X’s, and a box of Romeo and Julietta’s. Came right through customs marked "cigars". Now if I just had a damn trip to a stream to smoke a few.

  I’ll bet Charlie and I could fix you up with more streams than you could imagine.  That is, of course, as long as you bring along your latest shipment:) What about it Charlie?  Wanna split some X’s and R&J’s? Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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  I’ll bet Charlie and I could fix you up with more streams than you could imagine.  That is, of course, as long as you bring along your latest shipment:)

Perhaps you might better explain "fix you up". Where I come from it means you are either about to have a blind date with the ugliest girl in the county or you had better not bend over without looking back first. But ifin I can get out of a fundraising committment I have this weekend by just writing a check instead, then some of them ceegars should be parked on the South Platte this weekend. I think I might make the Penns thingie for a couple of days at least and I need a little practice, if only I can make sure I can get the fly onto the water. Wayne

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Perhaps you might better explain "fix you up". Where I come from it means you are either about to have a blind date with the ugliest girl in the county or you had better not bend over without looking back first.

  She wouldn’t be that ugly.  Trust us. But ifin I can get out of a fundraising committment I have this weekend by just writing a check instead, then some of them ceegars should be parked on the South Platte this weekend. I think I might make the Penns thingie for a couple of days at least and I need a little practice, if only I can make sure I can get the fly onto the water.

  Ummm.  South Platte is a long way for me to go to fish or smoke a cigar.  I guess I’ll just have to stay home and smoke one or two of my maduro Double Chateau Fuente’s:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop

Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne). There will be tying and casting demos, along with other presentations on both fishing and conservation issues. There is a banquet and raffle on Saturday night ($20 per person); everything else is free. Things get started at 9AM both days, and all events will take place in the Wyoming Student Union, except for a reception on Friday at the Toppan Angling Books Collection, which will take place at the American Heritage Center. For further information call the Wyoming Union Ticket Office at 307-766-3160, or contact me by email (after de-munging the addy. This event is sponsored by the University Flycasters and the Wyoming Student Chapter of the American Fisheries Society. This is the seventh one of these we’ve done, and they’re always a good time. Make it if you can. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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Hello!  Has anyone hiked in Lake Superior Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada? I’ll be heading up there in June and I’m looking to spend a couple nights in the backcountry and flyfish.  I’d like to hike in, camp and fish, hike to a second location, and camp for the second night/fish.  Any route suggestions? TIA!

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Haven’t been to that particular park, but anywhere in N.Ontario is bad for bugs at that time of year. Be prepared for blackflies and mosquitoes, i.e. bring bug jackets and bug dope (DEET).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello!  Has anyone hiked in Lake Superior Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada? I’ll be heading up there in June and I’m looking to spend a couple nights in the backcountry and flyfish.  I’d like to hike in, camp and fish, hike to a second location, and camp for the second night/fish.  Any route suggestions? TIA!

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Hello!  Has anyone hiked in Lake Superior Provincial Park, Ontario, Canada? I’ll be heading up there in June and I’m looking to spend a couple nights in the backcountry and flyfish.  I’d like to hike in, camp and fish, hike to a second location, and camp for the second night/fish.  Any route suggestions? TIA!

Don’t know about fly fishing, but the Gargantua Harbour / Warp Bay area is excellent to hike and explore for several days. Orphan Lake Trail will get you down to the coast where there are several sites to pitch a tent. Peter

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I’m gonna avoid the rush and start hating you now! I Love the north country and wish I could get back there. Any room in your luggage for me?? Enjoy! Dan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder. Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Hey Rob, On your way north, stop and pick me up…ok?  Go gettum tiger and remember, those aren’t bass you’re catching so don’t try to lip them.  :) —

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Good luck, Rob. We are with you in spirit at least. — Bob Rickard SECRET WEAPON — World’s absolute finest spinnerbaits! All others are now obsolete . . . See for yourself at http://inetsa.com/user/secretweapon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder. Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder.   Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Have a great trip Rob.  If your wife packed your clothes, check your tackle box for your underwear. — Consider Him

| Okay guys — | I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great | white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod | and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a | Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven | pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these | waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 | pounder. | | Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all | about it when I return.  See you in late July! | —– | Family, Friends, Fishing | Rob Storm | http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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My wife has indicated she may purchase a pair of these waders for me as a Christmas gift. Orvis dealer up here has them on sale for nearly 50% off. Reading bulletin board at a flyfishing site, seems most ppl prefer Simms model. Anybody out there have an opinion on this? Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders? Evidently Orvis is bringing out a new set of models which why they are clearing them, is it worth waiting for and perhaps paying alot more money for? Thanks for your opinions.

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I bought a pair of no-sweats last year.  They were very lightweight and comfortable.  They were also baggy and a funny color.  The first time I walked thru a blackberry bush they were full of tiny holes I couldn’t patch. I returned them to the flyshop which allowed me to "trade up" to the Simms waders.  They are twice as heavy and ten times tougher.  So far (knock on wood), no leaks.  I beat the heck out of the waders and they are holding up well.  Despite the Gore Tex claims, they you do sweat and you get damp – just a matter of how much dampness you can put up with. The feet are neoprene and after all day my feet are invariably damp – this part of the waders definitely doesn’t breathe. For someone like me who hikes a lot and beats the brush I need tough waders.  If you don’t venture near blackberry bushes or wild roses, or slide across logs – go with the Orvis.  The price won’t matter when you’re chest deep in a cold spring creek (that happended to me in Pennsylvania last year – got wet and froze to death in the Orvis product). Hope this helps.

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I’ve got a pair of Orvis breathable waders and I have nothing but good things to say about them.  I fished in them all summer, including brush wacking, log climbing and boulder jumping/sliding.  No holes, no leaks, minimum sweat.  Good poduct. Chris Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife has indicated she may purchase a pair of these waders for me as a Christmas gift. Orvis dealer up here has them on sale for nearly 50% off. Reading bulletin board at a flyfishing site, seems most ppl prefer Simms model. Anybody out there have an opinion on this? Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders? Evidently Orvis is bringing out a new set of models which why they are clearing them, is it worth waiting for and perhaps paying alot more money for? Thanks for your opinions.

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My wife has indicated she may purchase a pair of these waders for me as a Christmas gift. Orvis dealer up here has them on sale for nearly 50% off. Reading bulletin board at a flyfishing site, seems most ppl prefer Simms model. Anybody out there have an opinion on this? Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders? Evidently Orvis is bringing out a new set of models which why they are clearing them, is it worth waiting for and perhaps paying alot more money for? Thanks for your opinions.

Remember that Orvis guarantees their waders on a depreciation-type arrangement for 4 years…If you get a hole in the first year, full replacement, 2nd year, Orvis pays 75%, and so on… My pair leaked after a year and I got fed-exed a new pair no questions asked… Does Simms similarly back their product? — Chris Schmelzer, MS-2 Medical College of Wisconsin Milwaukee, WI 53208

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I absolutely love mine! Ira Clair

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ColinMckeown: <<Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders? Two years ago, on a trip to Labrador, I discovered Orvis’ breathables; the guides wore them.  On my trip this year, the same guides were wearing the same waders.   Last year I returned a set of neoprenes to Orvis saying I bought the wrong waders — I should have bought the "no-sweats.  No sweat. Orvis made the exchange and I have been extremely happy with them ever since.  I ride a mountain bike about 2 miles one-way to my favorite fishing hole and wear the waders all day.  They really are "no sweat".  I recently fell and put a tear in them.  They patched easily and when I returned to Boston, brought them back to Orvis and was given a new pair, *no questions asked*.  I doubt most other manufacturers would have a policy like that!   Dave LaCourse

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<Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders?

I really like my Orvis no-sweat waders.  I prefer the newer green color to my teal colored ones, but I have no reason to buy another pair.  Any waders will make you sweat some in warm weather.  I like the lightweight style (over neoprene) because it is comfortable in warmer weather or you can layer it for cold weather.  Simms makes a great product too.  Just more expensive.

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My wife has indicated she may purchase a pair of these waders for me as a Christmas gift. Orvis dealer up here has them on sale for nearly 50% off. Reading bulletin board at a flyfishing site, seems most ppl prefer Simms model. Anybody out there have an opinion on this? Does anybody have a pair of the Orvis NoSweats that could speak of the merits and detractions of this set of waders? Evidently Orvis is bringing out a new set of models which why they are clearing them, is it worth waiting for and perhaps paying alot more money for? Thanks for your opinions.

Hi All, There is a big ‘breathable’ war on and you will be the winners. Prices will be coming down a lot this next season. Simms is the ‘top banana’, but Patagonia is going to try to give them some real competition this next season. Orvis has some good values with their 4 year sliding warranty system. Lots of other companies are in the middle of the pack, but the competition is very powerful. Breathable waders are the biggest thing to hit fishing sense graphite. In a few years there won’t be any other choices, just like graphite rods. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I’ve had my Orvis NoSweat waders for over 3 years. they have been to 10 different states, up and down steep banks, even the Salmon river in December steelheading.  I am always dry sweat wise but in the last year they developed tiny, tiny  leaks that eventually got worse. I think it was the stitch holes in the knee pads.  I would fish all day and have a wet spot on my knee about the size of a grapefruit that eventually grew.  I took them back to Orvis after nearly 4 years and they gave me a new pair on the spot.  I love them, and would highly reccommend them.  One caveat though.  I burned a hole in mine with a spitting ember from a campfire.  It was instant.  I patched the hole on the inside with a piece of duct tape, and it held for several years.  Cant say enough about them.  they are no sweat indeed. Jerry Schrader Schrader Photo speciallzing in weddings for over 30 years. http://www.weddingphoto-ma.com

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How are they in the cold months of the year? Do you just layer? or what?

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Have not had them long enough to find out.  Ask me in February after the steelhead have come in. Chris Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How are they in the cold months of the year? Do you just layer? or what?

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You can just wear your long underwear underneath them, there,s plenty of room in mine.  Very comfortable in cold weather.  Don’t walk through snow with your felts wet however, it makes big balls of ice on your feet.   Jerry Schrader Schrader Photo speciallzing in weddings for over 30 years. http://www.weddingphoto-ma.com

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I wrote this a few years ago… any comments would be appreciated;  I think you will enjoy it! THE REAL FLY FISHERMAN                          

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writes:    A lot of people are touting the blood knot.

For more interesting reading on knots, including blood knots, try the current issue of FLY FISHERMEN where their test indicate that only two knots retain 100% line strength, given current tippet materials: the Palomar and the Trilene knot. Very interesting…

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I gave up on the clinch and trilene this year because they kept pulling out on big fish, despite very cautious tying. I quit using them because I decided

Without commenting on which knots are best, let me point out that most break-offs will occur at a knot, no matter which knot you use.  The UIAA routinely tests mountaineering ropes, and this is common knowlege to such testing agencies.  It makes intuitive sense when you think about it: stress is concentrated at the bends in a knot. — -Wayne Trzyna

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  A lot of people are touting the blood knot. Blood knots are not as good as they used to be! The newer multi polymer monofilaments are so hard and slick, the blood knot (and the clinch, inproved clinch, and Trilene knots) does not bite. We have a very sophisticated (read expensive) motor driven strain guage device that tests lines and knots to .01 pounds. 7 turn blood knots on Orvis SSS, Dai Riki, and Umpqua pull themselves apart at somewhere around 60-70% of the material breaking strength.

Ralph, I’ve abandoned the blood-knot alltogether because I’ve noticed an alarming decrease in strength in that connection with the new leader materials in recent years. I was beginning to fear that my own ability to tie the knot effectively had diminished, but your breaking strength measurements tell the real story. I now use the double-surgeon’s knot to connect the tapering segments of my leader and the double-surgeon’s loop-to-loop connection to attach tippets. Have you had the opportunity to measure the breaking strength of double-surgeons knots? Does the triple-surgeon’s provide significant additional strength? Thanks, Fred

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  A lot of people are touting the blood knot. Blood knots are not as good as they used to be! The newer multi polymer monofilaments are so hard and slick, the blood knot (and the clinch, inproved clinch, and Trilene knots) does not bite. We have a very sophisticated (read expensive) motor driven strain guage device that tests lines and knots to .01 pounds. 7 turn blood knots on Orvis SSS, Dai Riki, and Umpqua pull themselves apart at somewhere around 60-70% of the material breaking strength.

I gave up on the clinch and trilene this year because they kept pulling out on big fish, despite very cautious tying. I quit using them because I decided that after all these years of using them I must have lost the ability to tie them properly ! I never suspected the mono may be a contributing factor. Used the non-slip mono loop all year and it worked pretty well for me. I use double surgeon’s loops to join tippet to butt (when I use a butt).                                                 jc

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7 turn blood knots on Orvis SSS, Dai Riki, and Umpqua pull themselves apart at somewhere around 60-70% of the material breaking strength. Ralph,

Thanks for telling me the names of leader material to avoid when constructing tapered leaders. Ernie Harrison

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   A lot of people are touting the blood knot. Blood knots are not as good as they used to be! The newer multi polymer monofilaments are so hard and slick, the blood knot (and the clinch, inproved clinch, and Trilene knots) does not bite. We have a very sophisticated (read expensive) motor driven strain guage device that tests lines and knots to .01 pounds. 7 turn blood knots on Orvis SSS, Dai Riki, and Umpqua pull themselves apart at somewhere around 60-70% of the material breaking strength. I gave up on the clinch and trilene this year because they kept pulling out on big fish, despite very cautious tying. I quit using them because I decided that after all these years of using them I must have lost the ability to tie them properly ! I never suspected the mono may be a contributing factor. Used the non-slip mono loop all year and it worked pretty well for me. I use double surgeon’s loops to join tippet to butt (when I use a butt).                       jc

I’ve noticed the same thing with blood knots!  Thanks for the explanation.  I replaced the blood knot with the triple surgeons knot for any line/line connection.  According to a recent study, this line holds 100% of the weaker lines strength, wet or dry.  It’s simple to tie.  The only problem is that the any of the popular "double line through the eye" knots seem to be about the strongest, most durable knot I can find.  Anyone got a very strong, non-tightening loop knot as I fish for Stripers and like the free swing for the fly.  Most loops that I tie either slip or break and I’m looking for alternatives.  Most tippets I use are from 12-24lb Dai Rikki.  Thanks.     Tim —- "Just say no to bait"

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Hi Dan! Thanks for the kind words regarding the slide show.         Re: blood knots. Your formula for X number of turns for X size tippet is rational.          We lubricate the line with KY jelly (it is water soluble unlike silicone) prior to drawing up the knots. Then we soak the line in water to a). remove the lubricant, and b) to test the wet strength of the line and knot. It defies common sense to depend on dry strength for fishing line; however, I’ve NEVER seen anyone else do it.          Wet testing demonstrates some pretty wierd changes in tippet diameter, static strength, dynamic strength, stretch, and abraision resistance. The fluorocarbon lines really shine when compared against standard nylon and multi polymer monofilaments.         You probably want to know what leaders I use?! Umpqua pre tapered leaders because I get them at cost. I replace the tippet section with Dai Rikki Velvet for normal (trout) conditions or with Dai Rikki Diver when I need abraision resistance (toothy critters or abraisive bottom structure).         Tight lines, Ralph —

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   A lot of people are touting the blood knot. Blood knots are not as good as they used to be! The newer multi polymer monofilaments are so hard and slick, the blood knot (and the clinch, inproved clinch, and Trilene knots) does not bite. We have a very sophisticated (read expensive) motor driven strain guage device that tests lines and knots to .01 pounds. 7 turn blood knots on Orvis SSS, Dai Riki, and Umpqua pull themselves apart at somewhere around 60-70% of the material breaking strength.    Back to back uni- knots are excellent as are three turn surgeons knots. I still use blood knots on the heavier parts of my leader because the line is so strong there, someting up front is going to break even though the blood knots is not 100%. Blood knots look cool, sound neat as they click through the guides and don’t tend to catch as much gunk as other joining knots. In short I like ‘em alot but use them with with prejudice.    The strongest loop knot for attaching flies is the monofilamnet loop knot as seen in Kreh’s new knot book. Lefty claims the uni-knot is weak, but our machine says it consistently tests 90-100%. In practice it’s easy to tie and doesn’t take up as mucj material as the monofilament loop knot. Its big disadvantage is that the loop cinches up where the monofilament loop knot is permanent.    tight knots! Ralph —

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Keywords: Chile or Peru Hot Spots Re:Fly Fisihing in Peru or Chile. I am going to these countries next week and would like to do some fly fishing.  Anyone know of som hot spots?

I have a good friend in Santiago, Chile who owns a store called Fly Shop Ltda. He has many contacts with different fishing camps and lodges throughout Chile.  The best thing is to send him a fax with any questions or request and he will respond promptly.   Gonzalo Cortes de la Cerda Av. Manquehue Norte 1260 Santiago Chile Phone Fax  011-56-2-2018571   Good Luck!! Chile is a Great Place!!                       Marcos Vergara                       Fly & Field, Inc.                       1-800-328-9753

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Re:Fly Fisihing in Peru or Chile. I am going to these countries next week and would like to do some fly fishing.  Anyone know of som hot spots?

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Hi, I am going to be in Galway, Ireland for a few days and I am thinking about spending one or two of them fishing. I may get a chance to fish the River Courrib (?) for half a day, but I have no idea about anywhere else to go, and many other things, such as: 1. What does a foreigner pay for a permit (?) for a couple of days. 2. Are there any places to fish for free (besides the Gov’t permit mentioned above). 3. What flies might I want to tie up for mid-Sept? Any relevant information would really be appreciated! Thanks, —

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I am going to be in Galway, Ireland for a few days and I am thinking about spending one or two of them fishing. 1. What does a foreigner pay for a permit (?) for a couple of days.

Probably dirt cheap (I found 20 years ago) 2. Are there any places to fish for free (besides

Trout anywhere, salmon nowhere without paying for access (cheap) If there has been recent rain, salmon or seatrout (spate) rivers would be the most fun.  There’s always the Galway River itself, right in the city. In dry weather you can sometimes do OK in hill loughs (need access permit and legs for a long walk). Homework (none recently published): Conor O’Malley’s With a Fishing Rod in Ireland (1975) for geography and T.C. Kingsmill Moore’s A Man May Fish (1960) for folklore and flies (nothing unusual.) —  |          Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Rd., Carlsbad         |  |        Springs, Ont., Canada K0A 1K0; tel: (613) 822-0734       |  |  "What I’ve always liked about science is its independence from |  |  authority"–Ontario Science Centre (name on file) 10 July 1981 |

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I can’t stand it anymore!   Everytime I talke to a large fishing manufacture about making fishing stuff women they say; " The market is too small. Not that many women fish."  If you’re a woman, and you fish, let me hear from you.  It’s time somebody showed these guys that women enjoy fishing too.  Leave me your name and mailing address and I’ll send you a neat fishing trick just for making the effort. Thanks ladies and as always….good fishing!

How is fishing stuff for women any different than fishing stuff for men?  Every so often a woman posts in the flyfishing group asking about other women that flyfish and I point out that there are women such as Joan Wulff, Helen Shaw, and Lisa Cutter that have made a pretty big impact on the sport.  There is nothing inherent about fishing or fishing equipment that makes it a "mans" sport. As an aside,  Lisa Cutter and Joan Wulff both run flyfishing classes for women and I’m sure there are several others like them throughout the country.  I hear they are wonderful. — John Fereira

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I can’t stand it anymore!   Everytime I talke to a large fishing manufacture about making fishing stuff women they say; " The market is too small. Not that many women fish."  If you’re a woman, and you fish, let me hear from you.  It’s time somebody showed these guys that women enjoy fishing too.  Leave me your name and mailing address and I’ll send you a neat fishing trick just for making the effort. Thanks ladies and as always….good fishing!

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