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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – % % % % % I don’t know, but if this guy % is for real……he scares me!!!! % % This is the strait scoop.  Theres % nothing to be scared of unless your a % smartmouth like that stooge guy Moe. % % % Me, too!  Strangely, I’m reminded % of the thread from late % Summer/early Fall that dealt % with stories of sabotage, flattened % tires and other acts against fisher % people…  hmmmmmmmmmmmmm! % % I dont know nothin about that % stuff.  I just started posting % here.   I know % about guys who got their tires % slashed when they fished here in NY on them % Indian reservations.   You gotta % watch out for some of them jamokes when %they % go on the warpath.  I could tell % you stories but I dont got the time now. %The % little lady is already bitchin % cause Im running the computer instead of %helping % with her dishes. % % MEOW!!!! % % Tony G. % % % -tran % Oakland, CA % % % % % % % % THIS POSTED IN ALT.FAN.KARL-MALDEN.NOSE, %ALT.ALIEN.VAMPIRE.FLONK.FLONK.FLONK, % REC.OUTDOORS.FISHING.FLY  REC.OUTDOORS % FISHING.BASS, ALT.FISHING % % BOYCOTT THE COLEMAN STORE FOR CENSHORSHIP % www.rochesterweb.com/colemans % a.f.k-m.n.n (newbie)number of 2. % THIS POSTED IN ALT.FAN.KARL-MALDEN.NOSE, %ALT.ALIEN.VAMPIRE.FLONK.FLONK.FLONK, % REC.OUTDOORS.FISHING.FLY % REC.OUTDOORS FISHING.BASS, ALT.FISHING % % BOYCOTT THE COLEMAN STORE FOR CENSHORSHIP % www.rochesterweb.com/colemans % a.f.k-m.n.n (newbie)number of 2. % %PROBLEM THE FIRST: Adding "Subject" %to the subject header %is stupid and redundant and %fucks up the way that many %newsreaders, including Mozilla %and Agent, display threads. % %PROBLEM THE SECOND: You did not %x-post this to AFKMN, or %for that matter anywhere else, %and especially not any of %the groups that you list. In %fact, all of the people you %replied too will likely never %see your posts for this %reason. (You will note that %this has been corrected, %and I even added alt.flame %to the headers, because I %felt like flaming a newbie %anyway. You’re welcome.) % %PROBLEM THE THIRD: We (TINW) %do not issue "newbie %numbers". I don’t know who %told you that, and whoever %it is is probably going to be %really pissed that I ruined %the joke, but that’s the truth. % %PROBLEM THE FOURTH: Your grammar sucks. % %PROBLEM THE FIFTH: You make no %attempt at making anything %even vaguely resembling UPA. %This of course makes me %wonder why you are here in %the first place, unless of %course you are one of those %stupid newbie me-tooers that %have been plaguing us recently. %Which is in fact very %likely. % %PROBLEM THE SIXTH: You posted %your sig twice. Way to %go, dipshit. % %PROBLEM THE SEVENTH: You suck. % %CONCLUSION: I’d plonk you, but %I’m actually vaguely %interested as to how you react to this. % %– %mhm37×4                   crisis at quackquack dot com % %"They call them ‘bouncing %baby boys’, but they don’t really %bounce. They just sort of go ‘plop’." % %      -Bruce McCulloch % %Mr. Crisis; % %I dont got a lot of time to post %this morning.  I got up late and I gotta open %the shop up for the boys in a few minutes. % %I wrote Mr. Crisis cause I dont know %if your a guy or a girl from your name but %Im guessing your a guy.   If Im wrong %I figger you’ll let me know. % %I know Im a newbie and I figger %like most places this is some kind of %initation.  Im cool with that.  So %Im not gonna get insulting back at you %because that probably wouldnt be %the Meow way and Im trying to be a good Meower %now.  I hope I pass the initation. % %Ive been reading the Nose for weeks %now and I dont remeber seeing too much from %you before.  Your probably one of %them lower rankin Meowers that they use for %the initations.  Your not one of the %big time Meowers like Medcial Catastrophy. % Thats ok because you still rank higher %than me.  Its like us guys at the %volunteer fire dept all got different ranks. % %It dont always got anything to do %with how long you been somewhere neither.   I %been with the fire dept for 12 years %now but I take orders from the guy whose %Captain even though hes only been there %6 years and Im bigger than he is and I %could kick his behind if I wanted to. %   I figger its somethin like that. % %Im doing good as a mewoer so far. %Ive got all kinds of guys pissed off in all %them fishin groups and there talking %about ratting on me to compuserv and me %losing my account with compuserv. %Dont you people call that netpolice?  They %dont want me posting there because %they dont want to here nothing bad about the %fishing and the guys lifting and %snaggin the fish all the tiem. % %Before I go I wanted to talk about %some of them problems you mentioned.  Thanks %for posting to all those groups all %at once for me.   With this compuserv crap %I cant crosspost nothin.   The reason %for stuff being in my posts twice is %because Ive been copying and then %pasting all these posts to new posts and then %posting to each group individually. %It sure takes a lot of time and thats why %I dont have a lot of time to respond today. % %As far as them newbie numbers I got. %I got 3133T from Medical Catastrophy and %the other one I got from Scott Johnson. %I dont know what the Meow policy is on %them numbers but I figger that Medical % Catastrophy knows what hes talkin about. % Youll have to take it up with him. %Hes like your boss right? % %PS  Whats UPA?   I cant talk intelligent %about it if I dont know what it is. % %PPS   I know my writing sucks but %its better than it used to be.  Im trying but %its hard.  Its always been hard.   The %penguins were always making me stay %after school as a kid at the Catholic %school there.  I want to be a writer %though so I can write good stuff %about the storys my dad used to tell me about %WW2 and Toe Joe and Hero Hito. % %Ill see ya.  Thanks again. % %MEOW!!!!! % %Tony G.  3133T This troll.  It is simply too obvious. I will not respond to it. hey toneyg im liek teh lowest rankeing dued here next to loerd corkscrewbutt so yuo can litsen to me but be suer not to copey anytheing i do or respeong to me or yuoll be immeddieatetly gieven a vrey low mewo rank henvieng said thet i hace to respecteufleley disagree weth teh

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Hi I am getting into bamboo rod making is there anybody out there that is selling planing forms? Thanks Dave

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Dave,         Try this link.   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/5262/forms.htm         Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am getting into bamboo rod making is there anybody out there that is selling planing forms? Thanks Dave

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www.goldenwitch.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave,         Try this link. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/5262/forms.htm         Scott Hi I am getting into bamboo rod making is there anybody out there that is selling planing forms? Thanks Dave

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O.K. I want to build a cane rod so I need to get some planing forms.  I have found metal forms for sale from $300 to $900 and I have read plans on how to make hardwood forms. I don’t mind spending the money for metal forms if they are worth it, and I don’t mind making hardwood forms if I have too, but I’d like to know what others have found before I make a decision.  What’s the best way to go? BTW, does anyone sell pre-built hardwood forms?

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writes: I don’t mind spending the money for metal forms if they are worth it, and I don’t mind making hardwood forms if I have too, but I’d like to know what others have found before I make a decision.  What’s the best way to go?

Wayne Knight Geneva IL                            

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    As you have found there is a broad range ($wise) in available planing forms. An overview would be this – the entry level forms are within .0015" accuracy – which for the beginer is as close as most will work – the top end forms as as  accurate as they come .0005".     The decision is a personal one – the entry level forms can be final tuned (about 3 hours of filing) to be as accurate as the high end ones. If interested in the details please e-mail me off the list – the best address properly.     FYI – if you aren’t aware of it there is a e-mail repeater especailly for bamboo rodmaking – the rodmakers list – you can find information of how to subscribe to the list at home1.gte.net/jfoster/ .     Additionally there are several get togethers these days for the rodmaker or would be rodmakers (beginners are always welcome) – excellent information is exchanged and they are very social – the one I’m most familiar with is the one in Grayrock (aka Grayling, MI) – officially the dates this year are June 25, 26 – unofficially it starts June 19 (  permission slip form the spouse required) – the Grayrock group might best be describes as a friendly group that hangs out on the tailgate of a pickup truck – having a good time – sharing the craft of rodmaking – and yet raised close to $30,000 at the now world famous TTBBBQ. A combination of rod makers – fly fishing fourm folks (aka Single Malt Drinking Team) – and others locals that let their hair down a bit with activities such as the Sporting Flies Bribery Contest – The Makers Rod – Body Hair Auction – Fisherman Toss – and other assorted events. It’s About Fishin’ Not Fashion Another Wayne

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    Lately I have been having the worst kind of luck.. the kind only a newbie can have I have attended some fly courses and been watching the videos and the river where I live (calgary and the bow river) I have meandered the river watching the hatches and notching the pools and riffles along the river but only sporadic luck so far..perhaps the ones I catch are mentally challenged?? I know that I am matching the hatches and when the water shows no surface action am trying nymphs that the local fly shop has on their board of recommendations…. any help would be appreciated from any seasoned fly folks..especially if you can pass on some advice on nymphing techniques.. I believe that i am doing something wrong but am not sure what thanks for the help .      Pierre

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Have only fished the lovely Bow wilth a guide. (Dave Campbell, does any bodu know whats happed to him?)  The Bow only becomes productive thru and below Calgary, after it develops a food chain.  Divide the larger water into many smaller waters visually and fish these smaller divisions as if they were small waters.  Also strongly consider, streamers there .  Especially large 4-6 black wooly buggers to see if you can move some fish.  Oldies have exactly the same fishing experience you do, they just lie about it. Schuhfly

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   Lately I have been having the worst kind of luck.. the kind only a newbie can have I have attended some fly courses and been watching the videos and the river where I live (calgary and the bow river) I have meandered the river watching the hatches and notching the pools and riffles along the river but only sporadic luck so far..perhaps the ones I catch are mentally challenged?? I know that I am matching the hatches and when the water shows no surface action am trying nymphs that the local fly shop has on their board of recommendations…. any help would be appreciated from any seasoned fly folks..especially if you can pass on some advice on nymphing techniques.. I believe that i am doing something wrong but am not sure what thanks for the help .     Pierre

Shoot Pierre…you’ve been occupying your time in and around flyfishing. This is not bad luck, this is exceptionally good luck.  Catching fish is such a small part of it….and it will come,  you’re just paying your dues… Bag the videos and courses though, IMO. — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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shouldn’t rely on high sounding principles of international/maritime law.

Rely instead on the law of gross tonnage… Andy La Varre **** Join the fight against spam!             details at http://www.cauce.org

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but they never requested permission to board…

In this case they just wanted to see the boat It was a very pretty little boat, at 31 feet in St. Katherine’s Yacht Haven a very long way from home, so they were curious… Andy La Varre **** Join the fight against spam!             details at http://www.cauce.org

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Snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In reality, the combination of the fact that you are in their country and they are (heavily) armed usually infers automatic permission. Officials, by marine law, have the right to board a vessel "for just cause" -they usually decide what that means. A "warship" just has an advantage over pleasure boats in that it is heavily armed and carries its own "army" with it to enforce their rights. The bottom line is that, as others have stated, when in someone else’s country we should all behave as good guests, not as obnoxious tourists. Mel Haylock         Mel is correct. Any flagged(documented) pleasure vessel has territoral status. However, there are so many loopholes in Martime Law as to almost render that status moot when in foreign territoral waters. Add to that treaties with other countries that transfer authority to the foreign power for ships in the others waters. You best just be cool and not try to invoke Miranda, ie. be a hard ass.         If you are on the high seas, that is another story. Flagged vessels have the obligatory protection of all US armed forces. Or if they under protective escort by a warship in foreign territoral waters. Like Mel say, a warship has the where-with-all to make a hard ass point that skews the rules a bit. — Mark Fay Home OS/2 Merlin User ISDN & BitSurfer Pro S/V Enough Morgan 44 CC No. 1051223 If you’re right, Mark, how comes customs in any country will come on board a merchant ship or pleasure yacht, search the boat for contraband, seal the "spirits locker", etc. John

  Read the above John in particular the phrase ‘Just Cause’ which is open to the host nations interpritation. Peter

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Well, yes and no. First of all I assume, that you are an US citizen and you are sailing under the US flag (not the other way round, i.e. visiting the US). Actual procedures will vary from state to state. But as a general rule you can import whatever is allowed by the law of your home state. Once you are checking in at the imigration harbor local authorities will seal any equipment or supply, that does not comply with local laws. You are not allowed to break the seal until you are checking out again. Doing so will get you into serious trouble! So, sorry, no alcohol in moslem states. Also note, that most states have a very particular view about weapons. The most friendly custom or imigration officer may become all business and decide to search you boat for hours. And hiding a gun is a save way to inspect local prisons. Even for a flare gun you will need an allowance in e.g. Germany. How sovereign? You are under full jurisdiction of local authorities once you crossed the border between the open sea and coastal waters. jue — J

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Jack Ellis and I started a monthly newsletter last year called "Reflections on the Pond".  To my knowledge, it is the only publication dealing exclusively with warmwater fly fishing subjects.           I’ll be happy to send two free samples and subscription info to anybody in the U.S. E-mail your requests to me along with your postal (snail-mail address).  This is a print publication.  I can’t send samples via e-mail.                                                 Brian Shivers                                                 Publisher

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I’d be interested in seeing your newsletter. Robert McAnulty 1300 N. Astor St. #12A Chicago, IL 60610 Thanks. Jack Ellis and I started a monthly newsletter last year called "Reflections on the Pond".  To my knowledge, it is the only publication dealing exclusively with warmwater fly fishing subjects.           I’ll be happy to send two free samples and subscription info to anybody in the U.S. E-mail your requests to me along with your postal (snail-mail

address).  This is a – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – print publication.  I can’t send samples via e-mail.                                                 Brian Shivers                                                 Publisher

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Have spent many of my earlier years on the Little Lehigh….thru Hs and College and since then.It is a great stream to fish year around with some sort of surface activity(lots of Midges) just about year around. It is a limestoner with lots of trout to fish over in the c+r area near the hatchery. that part of the stream can be fished from the bank only…..about .5 of a mile long.Very picky fish who just about see everything…..be prepared to go small 8x……size24…….5 wt rod is  I wish the stream was closer….but our saltwater action makes up for it. Good Luck Peter Whelan

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. Patterns, places, local shops…..even better if someone familiar with the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish  (and not Thanks in advance. Tight Lines. JAPPLE

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or

Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.         Sincerely;         Jason Beary

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.    Sincerely;    Jason Beary

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I’m headed to Palm Springs for a week in early April and was wondering if there are any trout streams remotely close by or is that area all simply desert and dried up lakes?  Any info anyone has would be appreciated.  1st time going to Palm Springs.  Is all the fly fishing for trout in Middle and Northern California? TO WET LINES AND FULL TUMMYS, Chris Willman La Crosse, Wisconsin

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Try the area around Lake Isabella in Kern County, especially the north fork of the Kern River.  The rainbows are small, but a lot of fun anyway.

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A lot is going to depend on the weather and snowpack. The Santa Ana River in and out of the canyon. Deep Creek flowing northwest out of the Running Springs area is some good fishing also. Holcomb Creek is a trib. to Deep Creek and also had some good trout in the lower end, but that is a good hike. Whitewater Creek flows off of the south side of Mt. Gorgonio and also harbors trout and a hydroelectric powerplant(!)   It’s been a while since I’ve fished down there, so you might want to check at one of the local shops like Marriot’s in Fullerton for further information. have fun! Jim, Nevada Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV

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Hello, I am new to this newsgroup and fly fishing.  Please provide me with any information on fly fishing in south central Pennsylvania.  Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Tight Lines, Wendel

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Head for the Yellow Breeches near Carlisle, PA.  It’s beautiful and it’s convenient…in fact too convenient on weekends wwhen way too many folks show up.  My suggestion, take a day off from work and check it out.  Also, be sure and swing by Yellow Breeches Outfitters. Some really nice helpful folks who can tell you where to fish, etc.  Cold Spring Anglers also helpful. Good luck, and have fun! Kevin

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Don’t neglect the top-notch smallmouth fishing in the Susquehanna and Juniata rivers.  I drive past the potomac (which I love) several times a year to tangle with those porkchops. Dave

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There are several streams in the area, some are stocked andd several have fly fishing only sections. A great reference is Penn. Trout Streams by Meck, available at most fly shops.E-mail me for more info.

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I know this issue has been kicked around recently. I apoligize for the repetition. If you can help please answer by e-mail to eliminate traffic. 1. Who supplies Cabela with their blanks? 2. What is the Cabela C44X equivalent to in other brands? 3. What is the Cabela HML equivalent to in other brands? 4. Has anyone built either of these models? Opinion? Thanks for any assistance. Answer by e-mail please. Skip Summer

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Similar thread, but who supplies Winston with their blanks?   —    J. Chandler Hall        Intergraph Computer Systems                 (205) 730-4127

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Similar thread, but who supplies Winston with their blanks?   The answer is that Winston is now manufacturing their own blanks in thier new factory which just got started late last fall.  Prior to that, Winston got thier blanks from Loomis.  In recent years, Winston has beenexperienceing more and more rejections of the Loomis blanks.  Tiem will tell if the new blanks are as good as the old.  One current problem, however, is that virtually all of the production is going to the manufacture of finished rods and few blanks are availble for rodbuilders. I have been waiting for blanks since October.                                               Dallas, TX                                               Ennis, MT

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but has just recently started making their own. Inge

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I am in need of some fly-fishing spots.  I live in the Chicago area . . .

I, too, live near Chicago and have been looking for places to go that are nearby.  So far as I can tell, there’s not one bloody trout stream anywhere in the state.  The good news is that just a short hop away, in SW Wisconsin (I’m told) there are some fairly decent trout streams, some of which are designated no-kill streams.  I’ve also heard of various streams in Michigan that might be decent, but don’t know any specifics. I got this information from the Trout & Grouse store, which is located in Northfield (right off the Edens expressway).  I took a fly-fishing course there just recently (I’m just beginning), and they apparently have guides that know these WI and MI streams really well.  Sorry, I don’t have their phone or address handy, though I’m sure they’re in the directory if you want to give them a call. Hope this helps.  Keith — Keith Ludwig, Odesta Systems Corporation,

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Being a displaced Coloradoan here in the land of Lincoln, I am in need of some fly-fishing spots.  I live in the Chicago area . . . does anyone have any suggestions or secret spots they might care to divulge.  I will throw a fly at anything but catfish or carp Thanks, Kevin

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