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A Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope Santa will make one of your special (fly fishing)wishes true. Take care and tight lines Wim

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Its already started.  My wife asked me what kind of fly fishing stuff I wanted for Christmas.  I had just received a Hunter’s Angling fly tying catalogue and marked it up, flagged the pages, and gave it to her for shopping.  Earlier this week she came in with the catalogue in hand, said "Merry Christmas! Order everything you marked!"  I shot off the order and the box arrived yesterday.  My fly tying bench is overloaded with goodies. Most of this batch was for saltwater flys with a few tools thrown in.  At the January fly fishing show in College Park I get to spend my other Christmas present, a SIGNIFICANT contribution to my fly fishing war chest! let’s see……wading boots, Teton reel for my Connor rod, hackle, gotta buy hackle, don’t need hackle (got nearly 3 dozen necks and saddles, but what the hey, you can’t have too many) so I’ll buy some hooks, maybe a full-dressed salmon fly or two to hang on the wall, Teeny line for my new Teton reel…..gotta be something else, so far I have cash left over from my shopping list. Maybe I’d better save some for Penns.  I’m booked with Jonas at Feathered Hook for the nights of May 16 – 20.  Imagine having to pass through a fly shop EVERY day BEFORE BREAKFAST!  arrrrggghhhh!  Better leave all my credit cards at home and just take the leftover Christmas funds. Come to thnk of it, it will be AFTER the fly fishing show, list or no list, there won’t be anything left! — Wayne (commercial….too damn commercial…unless its fly fishing stuff) To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope Santa will make one of your special (fly fishing)wishes true. Take care and tight lines Wim

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Its already started.  My wife asked me what kind of fly fishing stuff I wanted for Christmas.  I had just received a Hunter’s Angling fly tying catalogue and marked it up, flagged the pages, and gave it to her for shopping.

I tried the same thing with Cabelas’ fly fishing catalog. When I got done, just about all the pages were dog-eared. After the laughter subsided I was told to make a list, so I went to cabelas.com and made a 3-page wish list. This sport is tough – so much gear, so little $$. — TL, Tim

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Its already started.  My wife asked me what kind of fly fishing stuff I wanted for Christmas.  I had just received a Hunter’s Angling fly tying catalogue and marked it up, flagged the pages, and gave it to her for shopping. I tried the same thing with Cabelas’ fly fishing catalog. When I got done, just about all the pages were dog-eared. After the laughter subsided I was told to make a list, so I went to cabelas.com and made a 3-page wish list. This sport is tough – so much gear, so little $$.

My bosses gave me a $200 gift certificate which I can choose to get in any denominations of $10 and up at any of many listed stores.  I was delighted and told my husband about it, saying that Cabella’s was one of the stores.  He got that look and I now figure I’ll have to half of it at the nearest really good restaurant and only do half at Cabella’s.  Damn.  Should have kept my mouth shut? —   rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Very slow on replying to email. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Cyli, you must learn something which guys pass on to each other early on in the locker room conversations.  NEVER…repeat NEVER give up how much you really got, the fact you got anything at all, where you might spend it, or what you bought with it! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!  You will also get VERY creative about explaining how certain new gear turns up.  Keep in mind, these are not lies; just things we tell the opposite sex to keep them from worrying about things which they should never have to be concerned with in the first place. — Wayne (maybe I’ll make a video about this and market it through Neiman Markus) To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its already started.  My wife asked me what kind of fly fishing stuff I wanted for Christmas.  I had just received a Hunter’s Angling fly tying catalogue and marked it up, flagged the pages, and gave it to her for shopping. I tried the same thing with Cabelas’ fly fishing catalog. When I got done, just about all the pages were dog-eared. After the laughter subsided I was told to make a list, so I went to cabelas.com and made a 3-page wish list. This sport is tough – so much gear, so little $$. My bosses gave me a $200 gift certificate which I can choose to get in any denominations of $10 and up at any of many listed stores.  I was delighted and told my husband about it, saying that Cabella’s was one of the stores.  He got that look and I now figure I’ll have to half of it at the nearest really good restaurant and only do half at Cabella’s.  Damn.  Should have kept my mouth shut? — rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Very slow on replying to email. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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I feel so….used…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, I think Don might have had an ulterior motive for the question about emu feathers – he’s got them for sale on that www.canflyfish.com.au website! They’re not as nice as ostritch.     and not remotely as rare as mu feathers, which are located only in semi-baja california, and are extracted at great risk to the collector. yfitons wayno Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers? Yep. Wolfgang anybody else?

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They’re not as nice as ostritch.

Sure, a simple question simply answered, and right away somebody has to go technical!      :) Wolfgang who knows that’s it’s really a matter of how much ya got to cover.

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Hey, I think Don might have had an ulterior motive for the question about emu feathers – he’s got them for sale on that www.canflyfish.com.au website!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They’re not as nice as ostritch.     and not remotely as rare as mu feathers, which are located only in semi-baja california, and are extracted at great risk to the collector. yfitons wayno Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers? Yep. Wolfgang anybody else?

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Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers? — Don Cantrell Cantrell Fly Fishing http://www.canflyfish.com.au Hand crafted flies, and selected fly tying materials

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Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers?

Yep. Wolfgang anybody else?

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They’re not as nice as ostritch.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers? Yep. Wolfgang anybody else?

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They’re not as nice as ostritch.

    and not remotely as rare as mu feathers, which are located only in semi-baja california, and are extracted at great risk to the collector. yfitons wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any fly tyers out there tried Emu Feathers? Yep. Wolfgang anybody else?

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Hmm…..Do you need a new best friend, Mr. Cooke? /daytripper ("Have Rod, Will Travel"

hey Trip we got a chalk stream in Maine here, I’ve never been up but for you old buddy, I’d make the trip. Flyfish

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Hmm…..Do you need a new best friend, Mr. Cooke? /daytripper ("Have Rod, Will Travel" hey Trip we got a chalk stream in Maine here, I’ve never been up but for you old buddy, I’d make the trip. Flyfish

Just make sure that there is no climb involved, especially no climb with speed bumps liberally placed along the trail! Op

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This is not the case where I fish, and obviously not the case for wild fish in loughs, where you fish. No – usually chalkstreams – Itchen, Test, Wylie and Avon. Not easy water.

My error. I would have thought the chalkstream fish were fairly "educated" as well. ( I have fished the Costa Beck a few times), but I didn

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Hi,     I’m going to be on vacation next week, I would like to hear any opinions on good spots to trout fish in Michigan. I don’t have a boat, so I need to know spots that I can wade or shore fish. Thanks, Jerry

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Where in Michigan will you be?  There are plenty of streams and lakes to wet your line in. Maurice Paquette – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,    I’m going to be on vacation next week, I would like to hear any opinions on good spots to trout fish in Michigan. I don’t have a boat, so I need to know spots that I can wade or shore fish. Thanks, Jerry

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ubject: Michigan Flyfishing Spots for Vacation? Hi,    I’m going to be on vacation next week, I would like to hear any opinions on good spots to trout fish in Michigan. I don’t have a boat, so I need to know spots that I can wade or shore fish. Thanks, Jerry

Jerry, If you are on the upper end of the Lower Peninsula, try the Au Sable. I fished it for a couple of summers around 20 years ago in the Stephen’s Bridge area. There was a *great* Trico hatch in mid/late July in the early AM. (We’re talking 16"+ fish on size 24/28 Trico spinners) Later on in the day there was a Slate Wing Olive, (#18), and fish could be caught on terrestrials. Evenings brought the SWO spinner fall, as well as unidentified spinners and some caddis. While I was out there, I was told the Manistee and the Rifle rivers were also good in the summer, but I never fished them.  If the canoe traffic on the main Au Sable is too heavy, (mainly a weekend thing), try the North Branch. Good luck, George Adams

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I live in Lincoln Park, just south of Detroit.  I know I’ll need to do some driving. Jerry

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I just got back from the Manistee River, and you don’t need a boat. Check www.troutbums.com for more info. By the way , I’m just learning fly fishing (don’t care for other kinds) and I caught and released 2 brooks and a brown. If I can do it anyone can. Good luck and enjoy. Monty.

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Try the Au Sable and Manistee as suggested, but also try the Boardman.  It gets very little pressure and has lots of (mostly smaller) fish.  The Boardman is also reported to hold large browns, but night fishing appears to be the key for those. Steve Kling

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Thanks, I think I’ll try the Grayling area first.That will put me near to both the Au Sable and Manistee. Jerry

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Looking for sources of info and owner feedback on any aircraft along the lines of the Cessna 180; i.e., taildragger (not necessary, but an option if it is less expensive), good useful load, reasonable speed, 4-6 passenger, simple (no retracts, CS prop OK), IFR.  Usage would be flights from Minneapolis/St.Paul area to northern Minnesota and Canada, with occasional flights out west (Montana, Wyoming), Michigan, Arkansas, and the Carolinas.  Possible flight into grass and dirt strips.  Need good useful load because very few of my fishing buddies are under 200 lbs. each, and I want to fill as many seats plus gear as possible. Keith Miesel Other similar aircraft along these lines would be considered.  I’m just trying to identify my options.

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For carrying a planeload of 200-pounders, plus fishing gear (and I know how that can add up!), you may be looking for a Cessna 206. Great load carrying, plus a big door. The Cessna 180, while it will physically carry a big load, is (at least in the early years) not legal with big loads.  Check gross weight and useful load figures.  Aviation Consumer’s big, two-volume book set of airplane reports (can’t remember the name, and it’s at home) is worth every penny. Great detail on all the popular GA planes. — Tom Gresham, host http://www.guntalk.com (for Gun Talk Radio Show)

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A Cessna 185 will actually outlift a 206 on poundage, but the big door on the 206 makes for easier loading of gear.  My rule is, if you are carrying fannys, use a 185, if cargo, use a 206.  Rough fields also favor the 185. BTW, look at Kenmore Air Harbor’s STC for the 180…they have a 250 pound GW increase weight kit and  40 HP enhancement kit.  They call it a "Super 180". For carrying a planeload of 200-pounders, plus fishing gear (and I know how that can add up!), you may be looking for a Cessna 206. Great load carrying, plus a big door. The Cessna 180, while it will physically carry a big load, is (at least in the early years) not legal with big loads.  Check gross weight and useful load figures.  Aviation Consumer’s big, two-volume book set of airplane reports (can’t remember the name, and it’s at home) is worth every penny. Great detail on all the popular GA planes. — Tom Gresham, host http://www.guntalk.com (for Gun Talk Radio Show)

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Looking for sources of info and owner feedback on any aircraft along the lines of the Cessna 180; i.e., taildragger (not necessary, but an option if it is less expensive), good useful load, reasonable speed, 4-6 passenger, simple (no retracts, CS prop OK), IFR.  Usage would be flights from Minneapolis/St.Paul area to northern Minnesota and Canada, with occasional flights out west (Montana, Wyoming), Michigan, Arkansas, and the Carolinas.  Possible flight into grass and dirt strips.  Need good useful load because very few of my fishing buddies are under 200 lbs. each, and I want to fill as many seats plus gear as possible.

If you are serious about the 4-6 passengers in the 200+ lb category plus fishing gear, plus normal baggage then you are out of the 180/185/206 class of airplane. That kind of requirement is only going to be met by something like a Beaver or an AN-2! BTW the price range of the 180 is $60-85K, the 185 is $75-95K and the 206 will run you from $80-110K. A good Beaver will set you back $175K and the AN2 while cheap to buy is REAL expensive to operate, (in the 40GPH range + a lot of oil & maint). Then you have the problem with certification, insurance etc. Are you sure you want to do this? If you can pare your seat requirement down to a max of three passengers and you, then the 180 with little baggage or a 185 with a little more or a 206 with 5 seats and almost no baggage or fuel might get you by. Or….with a 180/185 or get everyone to a nearby spot on a commercial flight and ferry them over to the fishing hole in two or three loads. Or better yet….get a floatplane and have everyone fly to someplace close and take them to a REALLY good fishing hole! R Wood in Alaska

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Planning a mid October trip and havent’t yet decided between: A) Green River in Utah B) San Juan in New Mexico The trip would be approximately 1 week with two other guys. We are just not sure based upon the weather and fishing conditions. Our budget precludes the possiblility of hiring guides. We are best described as "intermediate"; I guess. Need to get tickets very soon. Appreciate any informed advice. Thanks in advance!

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Planning a mid October trip and havent’t yet decided between: A) Green River in Utah B) San Juan in New Mexico The trip would be approximately 1 week with two other guys. We are just not sure based upon the weather and fishing conditions. Our budget precludes the possiblility of hiring guides. We are best described as "intermediate"; I guess. Need to get tickets very soon. Appreciate any informed advice. Thanks in advance!

Hiya Jerry, I know its way off what you’re talking about … but – ever thought of fishing in southern Africa?. We’ve got probably the strongest, fastest, freshwater fish on earth – the tiger fish – as well as some outstanding saltwater sport. Trey Combs thought Mozambique was real special in his book Bluewater Fly Fishing. Our fully-inclusive Orvis-Endorsed expeditions start from around $3200 for an eight night tour: flights, guides, accommodation, boats, fuel, taxes – the whole thing except for booze. You can call me Toll-Free in Johannesburg on 888 2461750 or e-mail to: details. Tight lines Mark

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I know Loomis does, they have told me so.  I don’t know who else however, but Sage is a good possibility.  Their rods are very nice. Burton On Tue, 29 Oct – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sort of off the subjet of previous posts in this thread, but: I know that Loomis used to make some of Bean’s top rods.  Recently some of them have been looking like Sages, others like Loomis.  Anybody know the skinny on who’s making LL’s rods lately? zeno

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Sort of off the subjet of previous posts in this thread, but: I know that Loomis used to make some of Bean’s top rods.  Recently some of them have been looking like Sages, others like Loomis.  Anybody know the skinny on who’s making LL’s rods lately? zeno

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LLBean is making their own rods now, I think they get their blanks from sage – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sort of off the subjet of previous posts in this thread, but: I know that Loomis used to make some of Bean’s top rods.  Recently some of them have been looking like Sages, others like Loomis.  Anybody know the skinny on who’s making LL’s rods lately? zeno

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Sort of off the subjet of previous posts in this thread, but: I know that Loomis used to make some of Bean’s top rods.  Recently some of them have been looking like Sages, others like Loomis.  Anybody know the skinny on who’s making LL’s rods lately? zeno

As of about 8 months ago I heard it was Loomis, but that report was from another fisherman, and we all know how reliable fisherman’s reports are. He said he called Bean, and they wouldn’t say exactly who manufactures their rods. Brett

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I have a 10ft. 5wt Double L designed for float tubes.  I use it for saltwater wade fishing.  Broke it once at the ferrule.  (may have been my fault but Bean replaced it.)  Has a medium fast action.  Works well for small snook and specks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m relatively new to the NG, so forgive me if I have missed a thread on this subject. However, does anyone have any experience with the Double L rods, specifically the two-piece 5-weight? – MM

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I’ve been considering an LL Bean Guide series rod.  They’re made with IM-6 graphite, have medium-fast action and run around $190.  This seems like a great deal when coupled with Bean’s 25-year free replacement guarantee. Any comments about Guide Series rods? Dave Anderson Columbia, Maryland

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Sort of off the subjet of previous posts in this thread, but: I know that Loomis used to make some of Bean’s top rods.  Recently some of them have been looking like Sages, others like Loomis.  Anybody know the skinny on who’s making LL’s rods lately? zeno

Don’t know who makes them, but I had a chance to fish the Double L "S" saltwater 9′ 10 weight and it *looked* more like a Sage. It was matched with a #10 Bean intermediate line and casts were some of the most effortless I’ve ever made. If I were to buy a production rod this would be very high on my list.                                                         jc

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MM, I have a 9 ft 6 wt LL rod.  Bought it at the Bean outlet in Nashua, NH. CAsts great, looks great.  I would buy another any time.  It has a medium/fast action, is fairly light in construction and nicely finished. Gerry Crow

Hi Gerry, I’ve found all of LL Bean’s equipment both fly fishing and other to be of excellent quality.  I too think their rods are an excellent peice of equipment.  I do have one and use it but still am partial to RPL and Scott rods as well. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/expo/specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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I’m relatively new to the NG, so forgive me if I have missed a thread on this subject. However, does anyone have any experience with the Double L rods, specifically the two-piece 5-weight? – MM

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MM, I have a 9 ft 6 wt LL rod.  Bought it at the Bean outlet in Nashua, NH.   CAsts great, looks great.  I would buy another any time.  It has a medium/fast action, is fairly light in construction and nicely finished. Gerry Crow

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Has anyone had any experience using horse hair, (mane in particular), in fly tying.  Any input would be appreciated. Tight line!

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writes: Has anyone had any experience using horse hair, (mane in particular), in fly tying.  Any input would be appreciated. Tight line!

Yes, both horse mane and horse tail.  Back in the 70’s took a one day class at a local JC in Oregon.  Older fellow who taught the 3 hour session had a collection of various materials in coffee cans and tin cracker boxes.  Part of his selection was horesehair dyed in various colors.  We tied up some caddis using some dyed green horse hair tied on and then wrapped like floss for one of the flies and then twisted to give a segmented body on another one.  It was actually pretty easy to handle. Need to be a little careful when twisting the horsehair as it goes from "twisted nicely" to "broken by twisting too much" very quickly.  Evidently it used to be easily available.  I haven’t seen any since that one time.                                  Good Luck,                                      Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Has anyone had any experience using horse hair, (mane in particular), in fly tying.  Any input would be appreciated.

tying some Mr. Ed Beadheads ? TimW

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Has anyone had any experience using horse hair, (mane in particular), in fly tying.  Any input would be appreciated.

Horsehair bodies (over painted hook shanks) were the basis of J.W. Dunne’s theory of imitation (approx. 1920) and remained in use in Britain for some time (cf. Robert Hartman, About Fishing, 1935) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Limited to 12 students, we’ll have six guides, you’ll work with three. Covering everything from equipment (both spin and fly) to fly tying, reading water, proper presentation etc. Evening seminars after fishing, all equipment, meals, deluxe accommodations right on the river’s edge. $350./person Nov. 18, 19, and 20 E-mail for specifics — Bill Fling                     Tel. (315) 298-3044 SALMON RIVER ANGLERS LODGE     FAX  (315) 298-2619 P.O. Box 353                   Rt. 13, Rome Road Pulaski, NY 13142-0353   ‘SALMON RIVER/LAKE ONTARIO SPORTFISHING REPORTS’             ‘http://www.salmon-river.com’

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We’re putting together a Steelhead school to be held November 18-20 here on the Salmon River in Pulaski, NY Price includes upscale lodging, all meals, guides, equipment and related materials. Limited to 12 students. Will cover all aspects of steelhead fishing using both fly and spin tackle techniques. e-mail for details. Bill Fling Reg. ME Master Guide Lic. NYS Guide — Bill Fling                     Tel. (315) 298-3044 SALMON RIVER ANGLERS LODGE     FAX  (315) 298-2619 P.O. Box 353                   Rt. 13, Rome Road Pulaski, NY 13142-0353   ‘SALMON RIVER/LAKE ONTARIO SPORTFISHING REPORTS’             ‘http://www.salmon-river.com’

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Does anyone know the contact info for the Atlantic Salmon Foundation as well as membership dues, etc? Thanks Don Don Chen            *  Standard disclaimers apply here. USDA-ARS-NFSPRC     * 3450 SW Campus Way  *   Corvallis, OR 97331 *                     * 503-750-8721        *

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Does anyone know the contact info for the Atlantic Salmon Foundation

Atlantic Salmon Federation (US) P.O. Box 807, Calais, ME 04619-0807 (Cdn.) P.O. Box 529, St. Andrew’s, NB E0G 2XO 1 800 565-5666 Dues range from $40 (regular) up to $10,000 (Benefactor). — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Check out: http://www.flyfishing.com/asf/ Andrew Clarke Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada

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Great and effective organisation with terrific membership benefits and publications. Their Web site is: http://www.flyfishing.com/asf/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know the contact info for the Atlantic Salmon Foundation as well as membership dues, etc? Thanks Don Don Chen            *  Standard disclaimers apply here. USDA-ARS-NFSPRC     * 3450 SW Campus Way  *   Corvallis, OR 97331 *                    * 503-750-8721        *

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