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What type of reel do you use?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is. Dale Anderson Durango, Colorado

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\ If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is.\ The problem isnt having one or two children. The problem is immigration and having 5 children at a pop similar to other situations in third wolrd countries.

So do we owe you a belated congratulations?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – \ If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is.\ The problem isnt having one or two children. The problem is immigration and having 5 children at a pop similar to other situations in third wolrd countries. So do we owe you a belated congratulations?

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Chev or Ford?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – \ Most Americans, being normal people who worship the Creator in some manner or another, rather than the creations, don’t know what a "roadless rule" is, let alone support it.\ The creator and it’s creations are one in the same.  who are you to judge? And you don’t speak for the majority of Americans you right wing fascist. Of course, you and your selfish, gluttony kind want to use up everything here because "it doesnt matter. We are all going to a better place in the end". Foolish. \Why don’t you go live in the damn woods and worship your damn trees and leave normal people alone?  H Y P O C R I T E.\ I dont worship trees, and I advocate logging. What I dont advocate is selfish lazy bastards who want to European-ize America making every last corenr tame and Walmartized. Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. I just want a little balance. \" The greatest thing about a tree god created is what man can do with it after it is cut down".   – Rush Limbaugh \ Brilliant. Never mind trees provide us with oxygen and a cooling effect on our climate. You quote true idiocy.

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forcing boogeyman religion on someone. my creator is between my legs

Hey, wow, that’s pretty darned good……except you misspelled "cheeks". Wolfgang interesting name, is that portugese?

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\ If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is.\

The problem isnt having one or two children. The problem is immigration and having 5 children at a pop similar to other situations in third wolrd countries. But I do see your point.

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forcing boogeyman religion on someone. my creator is between my legs

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – \ Most Americans, being normal people who worship the Creator in some manner or another, rather than the creations, don’t know what a "roadless rule" is, let alone support it.\ The creator and it’s creations are one in the same.  who are you to judge? And you don’t speak for the majority of Americans you right wing fascist. Of course, you and your selfish, gluttony kind want to use up everything here because "it doesnt matter. We are all going to a better place in the end". Foolish. \Why don’t you go live in the damn woods and worship your damn trees and leave normal people alone?  H Y P O C R I T E.\ I dont worship trees, and I advocate logging. What I dont advocate is selfish lazy bastards who want to European-ize America making every last corenr tame and Walmartized. Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. I just want a little balance. \" The greatest thing about a tree god created is what man can do with it after it is cut down".   – Rush Limbaugh \ Brilliant. Never mind trees provide us with oxygen and a cooling effect on our climate. You quote true idiocy.

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Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars.

If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is. Dale Anderson Durango, Colorado

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\ Most Americans, being normal people who worship the Creator in some manner or another, rather than the creations, don’t know what a "roadless rule" is, let alone support it.\

The creator and it’s creations are one in the same.  who are you to judge? And you don’t speak for the majority of Americans you right wing fascist. Of course, you and your selfish, gluttony kind want to use up everything here because "it doesnt matter. We are all going to a better place in the end". Foolish. \Why don’t you go live in the damn woods and worship your damn trees and leave normal people alone?  H Y P O C R I T E.\

I dont worship trees, and I advocate logging. What I dont advocate is selfish lazy bastards who want to European-ize America making every last corenr tame and Walmartized. Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. I just want a little balance. \" The greatest thing about a tree god created is what man can do with it after it is cut down".   – Rush Limbaugh \ Brilliant. Never mind trees provide us with oxygen and a cooling effect on our climate. You quote true idiocy.

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To anyone that replies to this, please remove rec.outdoors.fishing.fly from the send to list.

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Hearing the overwhelming voice of the American people,  a bi-partisan bill was introduced to enact the Roadless Rule in law. The bill already  has 172 votes in the house.  Im glad to see SOME politicians still care about the wishes of the people of America.

OK, I’ll bite.  What’s a roadless rule?  -Dave — On hotmail dot com, I am user "junknothankyou".

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Hearing the overwhelming voice of the American people,  a bi-partisan bill was introduced to enact the Roadless Rule in law. The bill already  has 172 votes in the house.  Im glad to see SOME politicians still care about the wishes of the people of America. Also, Bush again tries to make taxpayers  pay for corporate pollution. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2444-2002Jun5.html do Nothing Bush: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/06/opinion/06HERB.html Air Force Col suspended for bad mouthing Bush: http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/3393351.htm — Sent by  arvon45 from yahoo included in com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new

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Segar Grand Max is pretty hot right now.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.  its expensive but works awsome.  have you ever perchased florocarbon from cabelas?  is it good.

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i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.  its expensive but works awsome.  have you ever perchased florocarbon from cabelas?  is it good.

Everyone I know whose fishing I respect uses the same old Maxima – reliable, strong, doesn’t get in a twist. LC — Lazarus Cooke

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i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, will berkeley hear it? (the bishop of Cloyne, not the tackle manufacturer in Iowa) Mu

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<Crap snipped. What you write, is an affront to most people

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Been enjoying an eBay catch "To Hell With Fishing" by Ed Zern and H.T. Webster. Thought I’d share a bit of 40’s humor… In one cartoon titled "The Honeymoon", Mr. Webster draws a happy fellow flyfishing in a stream, while his new bride stands on the shore in a lovely dress and hat, her head surrounded by gnats, while she looks a bit confused. Mr Zern comments: "Personally, I don’t get the point of this cartoon.  As far as I can see, it’s an ideal honeymoon, and I don’t know what Mr. Webster could be driving at.  I spent my honeymoon fishing for small-mouth bass.  I had to.  The trout season had ended." More wife-torturing tips available upon request. 8^)

Timothy Juvenal

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Been enjoying an eBay catch "To Hell With Fishing" by Ed Zern and H.T. Webster. Thought I’d share a bit of 40’s humor… In one cartoon titled "The Honeymoon", Mr. Webster draws a happy fellow flyfishing in a stream, while his new bride stands on the shore in a lovely dress and hat, her head surrounded by gnats, while she looks a bit confused. Mr Zern comments: "Personally, I don’t get the point of this cartoon.  As far as I can see, it’s an ideal honeymoon, and I don’t know what Mr. Webster could be driving at.  I spent my honeymoon fishing for small-mouth bass.  I had to.  The trout season had ended." More wife-torturing tips available upon request. 8^) Timothy Juvenal

Great book. G.Cleveland

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Been enjoying an eBay catch "To Hell With Fishing" by Ed Zern and H.T. Webster. Thought I’d share a bit of 40’s humor… In one cartoon titled "The Honeymoon", Mr. Webster draws a happy fellow flyfishing in a stream, while his new bride stands on the shore in a lovely dress and hat, her head surrounded by gnats, while she looks a bit confused. Mr Zern comments: "Personally, I don’t get the point of this cartoon.  As far as I can see, it’s an ideal honeymoon, and I don’t know what Mr. Webster could be driving at.  I spent my honeymoon fishing for small-mouth bass.  I had to.  The trout season had ended." More wife-torturing tips available upon request.

….And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 8^) Timothy Juvenal

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Valkyrie postulated …And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down? —– I have one of those special partners that is both a flyfisher and a fly tyer BUT she would rather that I put the seat down cuz she hates taking a midnight dip in the porcelain jacuzzi…I guess 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. Chris Fanning — got a nice package from Cabelas today, oh goodie…Very impressed with their $9.99 Grizzly No. 1 Saddle.

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Count a second here.  Severe adversion of midnight dips.  2 for 3!!! Chris Richer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Valkyrie postulated …And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down? —– I have one of those special partners that is both a flyfisher and a fly tyer BUT she would rather that I put the seat down cuz she hates taking a midnight dip in the porcelain jacuzzi…I guess 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. Chris Fanning — got a nice package from Cabelas today, oh goodie…Very impressed with their $9.99 Grizzly No. 1 Saddle.

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"Chris Richer"  wrote… Count a second here.  Severe adversion of midnight dips.  2 for 3!!!

I really must object to this implication that the fair sex is not clever enough to put the seat down when neccasary.  I always leave the seat up, and have yet to fail to put it down when I’ve needed it in that postion.  I refuse to believe that the ladies are incapable of making the same judgement call. No, gentlemen, it’s not really about women being prone to falling into the toilet.  They’re no more likely to fall in than you or I, and in fact, are probably less likely.  No, this is nothing more than a convienient opportunity to tell you what to do, and one of the few instances when a woman is actually successful at that endeavor. We must be strong, men!  We must resist if we are to prevail in the war between men and women!  We must _insist_ that they leave the seat up!   For the dignity of all mankind! Timothy Juvenal

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"Valkyrie"  wrote … ….And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down?

Yes, I admit it would be hard to be strong under circumstances as extreme as those.  Especially if she isn’t always asking silly questions like "What’s *wrong* with you?!", and she can supply a good answer to a simple question like"What’s the big deal?", and she doesn’t decide that she doesn’t want to date men anymore after just a few dates, and all that other silly stuff women can be prone to. Timothy Juvenal

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We must be strong, men!  We must resist if we are to prevail in the war between men and women!  We must _insist_ that they leave the seat up!   For the dignity of all mankind!

I’ve found that insisting that the seat AND lid remain down works better.  It looks better and if you have kids/pets it keeps them out of the toilet seem to work well as reasons for her to do it. Also negates the argument over falling in.  You can beat them at their own game.  :-)      - Ken

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….And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down?

And a masseuse. Don’t forget that. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I’ve found that insisting that the seat AND lid remain down works better.  It looks better and if you have kids/pets it keeps them out of the toilet seem to work well as reasons for her to do it.

I use the same argument in reverse. What if the dogs get thirsty? It works for me, and it works for them. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Stand at the greeting card rack checking out all the romance cards.  Buy one and let her see you pay for it.  When you’re alone, throw it away. George Gehrke

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….And what if you should be so unfortunate as to find a lady who is a flyfisher? Worse yet, what if she is a flyfisher AND flytyer AND could give a rat’s rump if the seat is up or down? And a masseuse. Don’t forget that.

   Shoot, I only got two out of the four.               Charlie,               who ties her flies AND leaves the seat down

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"rw"  wrote… What if the dogs get thirsty?

So, a dog walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "It’s my birthday!  Do I get a free drink?"  And the bartender says, "Sure, the toilet’s down the hall!" Timothy Juvenal

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"rw"  wrote… What if the dogs get thirsty? So, a dog walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "It’s my birthday!  Do I get a free drink?"  And the bartender says, "Sure, the toilet’s down the hall!"

T’ain’t nothin’ til ya hear about how RW’s dog mistook a nude sun-worshipper for a walking sausage factory. Mu

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Glad to see that this appetizing (if OT) title has had so many bites . . . Lazarus — Lazarus Cooke

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I’ve driven all over the country and seen some mighty fine independent outdoor shops. Long-time owner-operated, hardwood floors, hand-picked stock, great stuff, great stories, multi-generation shops. Let’s wake up folks. These shops are going the way of the dodo. The chains and BAD shops are taking over. Maybe one way we can STOP this sad trend is to make a list of our favorite shops nationwide. Then stop by when we’re in the area. Maybe go on drives to see these treasures! One selfish reason of mine to do this is that I haven’t taken a big road trip lately and I’d like to go revisit some of those great ole shops. OK, I forgot where some of them were. Of course, you know that outdoor sport shops aren’t the only disappearing dodos in civilized retail. Quality independent restaurants, hardware stores and bookshops are in the same boat. Maybe there’s a way we can rescue them all at once? Putting the word out about where there are can’t be a bad way to start. — Jeff Potter   !.com   delete ‘DELETETHIS!’ to reply ***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture        http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with a full line of books, bookstore & forum

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The chains and BAD shops are taking over. Maybe one way we can STOP this sad trend is to make a list of our favorite shops nationwide. Then stop by when we’re in the area.

My experience so far is that the typical chain store doesn’t carry the best outdoor gear… i.e. they will have Timberland boots but not Vasque or Asolo… But in Birmingham Alabama I would recommend Alabama Outdoor and Roger’s Trading Co.  I have to say, though, that one of my favorite things to do in Atlanta is visit REI, and I think they are a great place to get gear. cordwood

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In the Dallas Texas Area, look to: Backwoods  (corner of Coit and Campbell roads, Richardson) <–also carry flyfishing gear, woohoo! Mountain Hideout Lover’s Lane, just a block West of the Dallas North tollway We have an REI in town, but I like these stores better, they go out of their way for you, whether you are asking for an expensive tent, a pair of $18 socks, or even $2 zipper pulls. In Dayton, Ohio, go to General Surplus, don’t have the address. — Matt Blickensderfer * A Grouchy German is a Sour Kraut! *

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’ve driven all over the country and seen some mighty fine independent outdoor shops. Long-time owner-operated, hardwood floors, hand-picked stock, great stuff, great stories, multi-generation shops. Let’s wake up folks. These shops are going the way of the dodo. The chains and BAD shops are taking over. Maybe one way we can STOP this sad trend is to make a list of our favorite shops nationwide. Then stop by when we’re in the area. Maybe go on drives to see these treasures! One selfish reason of mine to do this is that I haven’t taken a big road trip lately and I’d like to go revisit some of those great ole shops. OK, I forgot where some of them were. Of course, you know that outdoor sport shops aren’t the only disappearing dodos in civilized retail. Quality independent restaurants, hardware stores and bookshops are in the same boat. Maybe there’s a way we can rescue them all at once? Putting the word out about where there are can’t be a bad way to start. — Jeff Potter   !.com   delete ‘DELETETHIS!’ to reply ***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture       http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb … with a full line of books, bookstore

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Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55 lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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Get the lightest canoe you can. There are so many to chose from.

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You know, I took the photograph, I am in the store enough (even help fill in), but I can’t for the life of me remember what kind of boat this is. It’s the top left yellow fiberglass canoe with the really wide beam, click on ‘canoes’ in the left frame on: http://members.aol.com/Froggie405/ It is really light, under 500.00, a price I would like to see on a fiberglass sea kayak… really light.  extremely stable.  pretty well made.  Roomy enough to fit that last fish that got away. The owner of the shop is on the list and could identify it for you. He could also prbably tell you where to find it in your area. — gabriel l romeu http://members.aol.com/romeug     studio furniture http://members.aol.com/romeugp    paintings, photos, prints, etc. http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR  a daily photo journal

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You know, I took the photograph, I am in the store enough (even help fill in), but I can’t for the life of me remember what kind of boat this is. It’s the top left yellow fiberglass canoe with the really wide beam, click on ‘canoes’ in the left frame on: http://members.aol.com/Froggie405/ It is really light, under 500.00, a price I would like to see on a fiberglass sea kayak… really light.  extremely stable.  pretty well made.  Roomy enough to fit that last fish that got away. The owner of the shop is on the list and could identify it for you. He could also prbably tell you where to find it in your area.

It might be the We-No-Nah Fisherman, the 14′ is good for one, 16′ for two.  Quite light in Tuf-Weave, lighter still in Kevlar.  Very stable but not terribly slow.  Great Outdoor Provision Company in North Carolina used to stock them.  Call the Raleigh location for the best selection. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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Here’s this years advice. For the weight you will have to get a kevlar boat. For initial stability for fly fishing I would suggest at least 36 inches wide. If it is only going to be used for day trips there is no point in anything over 16 feet long. There are lots of manufacturers that make something in this area. Sincerely, Carey Robson President – Recreational Canoeing Association of British Columbia Master Instructor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/CanoeBC     Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am     looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55     lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and     ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not     want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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You may want to consider a sportspal canoe. They have some very stable stuff around 12 to 14 feet, excellent for fishing. If you don’t mind the price a kevlar is also a good canoe. One person wrote that you will want to keep it somewhat wide, that will help with the stability.

    Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am     looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55     lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and     ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not     want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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Wardensworry, you need to check into Merrimack Canoes out of Crossville, Tenn. These are very beautiful  wood (ash&cherry) and fiberglas hand layup canoes And the company  will get you a boat pretty much whereever you are. Randy Pew is the owner(&Grandson of founder) and can be called at 931-484-4556. His boats aren’t cheap but once you see one you’ll wonder why they’re not more.They are  not for whitewater but flyfishing and tripping. Ask him about his Osprey and Tennessean, they sound like what you’re looking for.. I’m not a salesman or affiliated w/ Merrimack, just a friend of Randy’s and an admirer of his work.         Barnett

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Depending upon where you are located, we carry the Northern Paddler line of glass canoes. They make a 10′6" model with a 40" beam. We have one in stock in yellow at $489.00. This would fit your stability and weight requirements. This is a solo boat. If interested, we are in Bordentown, NJ. Paint Island Canoe & Kayak. If you are in the east, there may be a dealer in your area. Give us a call. 609-324-8200 www.riversport.com/paintisland/

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Considering all of the self promoting, childish in fighting that has developed recently in this newsgroup, I propose that this newsgroup change its name to Pompous. Ass. Fishing. Fly.  I also propose that all members of PAFF are required to own and drive either an Orvis Jeep or one of the Lexus/Mercedes SUV’s.  In addition, streamside attire must include the bandana tied around the neck, the pastel colored fishing shirt and the standard Aussie outback hat with chin strap included.  And of course the PAFF membership patch must be proudly worn on the seat of your waders. <grin Mike Wilson Fishing!! What else is there?

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[deleted] I propose that this newsgroup change its name to Pompous. Ass. Fishing.

Fly. [deleted] Yeah…but that would be redundant. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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okay but only if I get to wear love beads and a peace sign…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Considering all of the self promoting, childish in fighting that has developed recently in this newsgroup, I propose that this newsgroup change its name to Pompous. Ass. Fishing. Fly.  I also propose that all members of PAFF are required to own and drive either an Orvis Jeep or one of the Lexus/Mercedes SUV’s.  In addition, streamside attire must include the bandana tied around the neck, the pastel colored fishing shirt and the standard Aussie outback hat with chin strap included.  And of course the PAFF membership patch must be proudly worn on the seat of your waders. <grin Mike Wilson Fishing!! What else is there?

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<snip I propose that this newsgroup change its name to Pompous. Ass. Fishing. Fly.  <snip  And of course the PAFF membership patch must be proudly worn on the seat of your waders. <grin Mike Wilson Fishing!! What else is there?

OR….. How ’bout RONG  rec.outdoors.no.gink  ;-)                                                                 =8=

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<<OR….. How ’bout RONG  rec.outdoors.no.gink  ;-) Or RONA — and you wouldn’t be able to belong.  d;0) Dave LaCourse

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<<OR….. How ’bout RONG  rec.outdoors.no.gink  ;-) Or RONA — and you wouldn’t be able to belong.  d;0) Dave LaCourse

Don’t take it personal Gink.   8~)

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<<OR….. How ’bout RONG  rec.outdoors.no.gink  ;-) Or RONA — and you wouldn’t be able to belong.  d;0) Dave LaCourse Don’t take it personal Gink.   8~)

; )

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George: << Don’t take it personal Gink.   8~) I didn’t write that, George.  The very adult "spiderman" did. DL

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This is only a test. Do not adjust your set.

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I am planning a trip to the Dordogne region of southern France in June of this year, and would appreciate any information regarding fly fishing in that area.   post via this news group, or contact me via email (preferable) at Thanks in advance

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craig: Check out the following article by Barry Thornton in the Online Gillie at Flyfishers Online (www.flyfishers.com). Fly Fishing the Famous Doubs River in France! – Oct, 1996 Enjoy, PFY I am planning a trip to the Dordogne region of southern France in June of this year, and would appreciate any information regarding fly fishing in that area. post via this news group, or contact me via email (preferable) at Thanks in advance

– Peter Yoakum eChannel, Inc. 206 727 2702 206 727 2718 (fax)

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I took up fly fishing last summer, during a trip to Newfoundland, and now the family can’t imagine any other kind of fishing. I have a few questions. Lot’s of places we fish seem to have tons of mosquitos.  Why are there so few flies that look like mosquitos (or am I missing something). In Lappland this summer, I got something called a "musta polar tohtori" (black polar doctor), which looked a bit like a mosquito, but there don’t seem to be many.  Do fish not like mosquitoes?  My wife’s theory is to the effect that mosquitoes are so common that fish are bored with them, and would rather go for something more unusual and tasty. The second question:  We took our fly rods to Finnish Lappland this summer (around Kilpisjarvi), but had no luck in the lakes around there, nor around Yllas either.  We tried muddler minnows, dry flies, streamers, wet flies, and good good at casting, but didn’t pick up anything (though some of the lakes are stocked with char).  It was fun anyway, but I’m wondering if anybody has tips on fishing the Northern Finnish, Swedish and Norwegian lakes and streams. Finally, closer to home, I’m looking for good trout streams in Wisconsin or N. Illinois, within 3-4 hours of Chicago.  I’m not looking for anybody to give away their secret spots, but if there are some well know good spots I’d appreciate the advice.  I like to fish in places that are quiet and away from busy roads and noisy power boats (and far, far away from jet skis!). Thanks, Ray Pierrehumbert

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Lot’s of places we fish seem to have tons of mosquitos.  Why are there so few flies that look like mosquitos (or am I missing something).

If trout get a shot at mosquitoes, I’m sure they’d eat them.  However, the life cycle of a mosquito pretty well takes place in water which trout cannot survive.  Mosquitoes hatch in stagnant water that is usually warmer than trout prefer and has little if any dissolved oxygen.   Not nearly enough dissolved oxygen for trout to survive.  "Mosquito wrigglers" use a tube that  penetrates the surface film to respirate. The are actually air breathing in this immature form.  That is why they used oil on the stagnant water to eliminate the malaria problems in the first half of the century.  The mosquito tubes couldn’t penetrate the oil film and they died from lack of oxygen. They hatch from stagnant water into that blood-sucking beast we all know, and they lay eggs back into the same stagnant water they came from. The attractions for them around the water are the warm blooded animals that frequent the area.  Since all animals need water, that’s a good supply of blood.  But they are not readily available for ingestion by trout. By the way, that "mosquito pattern" that most fly shops sell is a great mayfly imitation and works well in trout waters.                                                     Hope this helps,                                                              Dan

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writes: I have read of good fishing on Salmon Falls Creek, which          flows into Idaho near Jackpot. Browns and rainbows on          the upper stretches. I’ve been by it numerous times, but          never fished it. Looked good though …..

Bob, Is this the stream that runs along side of the road?  It always looked to warm to hold trout, unless you are talking about bass. Ernie Harrison

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 (Bob Evans) writes: I have read of good fishing on Salmon Falls Creek, which          flows into Idaho near Jackpot. Browns and rainbows on          the upper stretches. I’ve been by it numerous times, but          never fished it. Looked good though ….. Bob, Is this the stream that runs along side of the road?  It always looked to warm to hold trout, unless you are talking about bass. Ernie Harrison

A Couple of years ago I was in Twin Falls on biz and Id Fish and Game had just dumped "excess" hatchery steelhead into Salmon Falls Crk and locals were busy.  Seemed like a rather strange recycling operation.                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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: Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, : 702-753-JIMS : Jim, this seems an awful lot like an ad.   Either give us some information : rather than a teaser, or stay the hell out of our faces.  Thanks. And please…be honest.  Forty fish days with an 18" average?  I guess the Henry’s Fork reputation is overdone.  The real water is in the deserts of N. Nevada. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, 702-753-JIMS

Jim, this seems an awful lot like an ad.   Either give us some information rather than a teaser, or stay the hell out of our faces.  Thanks. John

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Yes, there is fishing in Northern Nevada!  How does 40 fish days with an 18 inch average sound to you? This is on Public waters.  So many travel through here to stand shoulder to shoulder on the northern Rocky waters only to have a few drift boats cross their lines when they could have a couple of miles of stream to themselves here…..   Most of the fishing is subsurface–nymphs, buggers, leaches, wooleys, etc., but there is some dry fishing, especially in the smaller high creeks and lakes. There is a wide variety of fishing from bellyboating for bass and lunker trout to wading small creeks for wild brookies or even native Lahontan Cutthroat Trout..  Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, 702-753-JIMS

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I will be going to the the Gulf Coast of Florida (Fort Myers area, Captiva Island) to do some fishing in about a month and am looking for a good guide for some light tackle fly fishing.   Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.                                                         —Ken Ross

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I will be going to the the Gulf Coast of Florida (Fort Myers area, Captiva Island) to do some fishing in about a month and am looking for a good guide for some light tackle fly fishing.   Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Call Dale Houchin 813-277-9409 Captain of the "Grand Slam" ….Light spinning and Fly If he is booked he can recommend someone

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If you go to Clearwater area (Homassassa Springs) Contact Captain Earl well but he worked hard trying to put me onto fish.  American Angler had article on redfish in July-October ‘88 issue if you can get your hands on it. Thats where I got Earls name. Its a beautiful area – and it’s Tarpon time! Good Luck IBFISHN (Rodney Bauch)

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