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Anybody know anything about this area.  I seem to get to be there over the 4th of July with the in-laws.  Is there any fly fishing in the general area? Trout preferred- but I understand there are bass in the lake proper. john

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fishing in this lake is great smallmouth,largemouth,trout,perch and a few others as well i have maps of this lake if you like the fishing is very good in this lake

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Anybody know anything about this area.  I seem to get to be there over the 4th of July with the in-laws.  Is there any fly fishing in the general area? Trout preferred- but I understand there are bass in the lake proper. john

You can get information at: http://www.wa.gov/wdfw/fishcorn.htm and the latest lake and streamflow data at: http://wa.water.usgs.gov/rivers Good luck. –Scott–

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I rented a felluca for day sailing. I think that it would be little trouble to get one for a fair cruise.

Excellent idea, and definitely in my style. —      Mark Anderson – DBA Riparia Resources    www.riparia.org Medical info for cruisers and woodworkers.  Boatbuilding plans. Artistic photography       Landscapes – Nautical and marine – Abstracts, extracts and themes.

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I’m curious as to whether it is practical to cruise up and down the Nile R. with a private yacht. Legalities and other hassles: Practical draft limitations: Safety and pleasurability of your reception by the Egyptians: Any other information that may be of interest: —      Mark Anderson – DBA Riparia Resources    www.riparia.org

I rented a felluca for day sailing. I think that it would be little trouble to get one for a fair cruise. It would avoid all the problems of a rich-looking yacht. I’d not worry too much about piracy or big-deal problems. It’s petty theft that gets you. — Bernard W. Joseph     http://www.appliedgrammar.com   "Speak to us of Emailia."    James Joyce    FINNEGANS WAKE

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Last month I sailed a felucca from Aswan to Edfu, so based on limited knowledge of this stretch of water:

Thanks Tony, yours was the kind of info I was looking for.  As to the political climate, those responses are taken in mind, and as expected. For my own purposes, however, the time I might be taking this cruise will be at least several years into the future, so I’ll hope that the political situation might change by then.  In any event, it’ll be taken into account whenever, and probably I’d get the opinion of the state dept. first. —      Mark Anderson – DBA Riparia Resources    www.riparia.org Medical info for cruisers and woodworkers.  Boatbuilding plans. Artistic photography       Landscapes – Nautical and marine – Abstracts, extracts and themes.

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A rich American cruising his flashy yacht in the Middle East…… Now THERE’s a TARGET of OPPORTUNITY for you. Hated by millions of Arabs because of our undying support for the Israeli War Machine…..tearing up Palestinians. Can you answer your own question?  PLEASE DON’T!

When I was in Egypt a quite few years ago (just after Egypt and Israel "normalized" relations) the average Egyptian on the street preferred Israeli money to Egyptian money for the small cash purchases.  And that was after a 10 to 1 devaluation of Israeli money. Things certainly may have changed in the past 20 years but back then they were very friendly to American tourists.  The only thing that had me feeling unsafe was the way they drive, especially in and around Cairo.  You probably heard about driving in Italy.  Cairo is much worse. Steve

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Oh, I think the average Egyptian is still "American friendly".  Most Arabs I ever met when I lived there were very pro-American and simply LOVED Yankee dollars.  However, times have changed, not the people. This Al Queda network is only one of many anti-American networks with supporters across a wide spectrum of Arab countries.  Bombs are going off almost every day, now. Flashing the big yacht in their faces, and all the cash that goes along with it, attracts attention.  Word is passed to the network from the supporters who will never see their own cars, much less a flashy yacht.  The damned thing is a great "target" and would be a prize on any terrorist’s list.  Egypt is eat up with anti-Israeli, and therefore anti-American, groups. It just seems stupid to put the family, the boat and his personal safety in harm’s way flashing that yacht in their faces after 9/11. Middle East changed that day.  Until the "brothers" in Afghanistan get the word spread out that America is NOT the enemy, and saved them from the gangsters who were killing the country, I’d pick a nice, quiet island someplace for the flashy yacht full of Yankees.  With so MANY beautiful places on the planet, why take the chance? Larry We fail, miserably, to see how hated we are because of our support for Israel, no matter who they kill, no matter what they do.  You have to live in an Arab country to really feel it.

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Yotties are not tourists – we aren’t treated as tourists in most places, don’t use the same visas, don’t follow the same rules, processes, etc.  Most countries treat yotties same as commercial ships, fishing vessels, etc – crew lists, clearances, paid for visas, etc   They know we don’t stay in hotels, buy loads of tourist crap, spend big in restaurants, etc.  We’re not "respected" and "protected" in the same way at all.  We aren’t part of that industry. On Egypt – many cruising friends have transited the Suez and universally agreed (much to my disappointment) that Egypt is a miserable shithole of a country to cruise.  Big theft and bribe problems. They get through there as quickly as possible with as short and few stops as necessary. It’s much easier and safe to park the boat in Cypress in a marina and fly in/out of Egypt – as a respected and protected tourist. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [...] It just seems stupid to put the family, the boat and his personal safety in harm’s way flashing that yacht in their faces after 9/11. Middle East changed that day.  Until the "brothers" in Afghanistan get the word spread out that America is NOT the enemy, and saved them from the gangsters who were killing the country, I’d pick a nice, quiet island someplace for the flashy yacht full of Yankees.  With so MANY beautiful places on the planet, why take the chance? Personally, I don’t think it would be all that much of a chance.  At least compared to many other beautiful places people cruise to.  Egypt definitely had a problem a while ago with terrorists attacking visitors.  But from what I’ve heard, they cracked down on them pretty hard.  A large part of their economy is based on tourism, so there’s a big incentive to keep tourists safe. Larry We fail, miserably, to see how hated we are because of our support for Israel, no matter who they kill, no matter what they do.  You have to live in an Arab country to really feel it. That’s just not true for the average person you meet in many Arab countries, including Egypt, especially Egypt. Steve

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[...] It just seems stupid to put the family, the boat and his personal safety in harm’s way flashing that yacht in their faces after 9/11. Middle East changed that day.  Until the "brothers" in Afghanistan get the word spread out that America is NOT the enemy, and saved them from the gangsters who were killing the country, I’d pick a nice, quiet island someplace for the flashy yacht full of Yankees.  With so MANY beautiful places on the planet, why take the chance?

Personally, I don’t think it would be all that much of a chance.  At least compared to many other beautiful places people cruise to.  Egypt definitely had a problem a while ago with terrorists attacking visitors.  But from what I’ve heard, they cracked down on them pretty hard.  A large part of their economy is based on tourism, so there’s a big incentive to keep tourists safe. Larry We fail, miserably, to see how hated we are because of our support for Israel, no matter who they kill, no matter what they do.  You have to live in an Arab country to really feel it.

That’s just not true for the average person you meet in many Arab countries, including Egypt, especially Egypt. Steve

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Last month I sailed a felucca from Aswan to Edfu, so based on limited knowledge of this stretch of water: Draft limitation: most of the cruise boats had a draft of 4 feet or 4′ 6".  Our felucca had a centre board so that we could pull into the bank. Buoyage: Almost non existent.  There are shallows and a few rocks. Local knowledge desirable. Wind:  Prevailing wind in this Southern stretch is Northerly (i.e. against the stream) so one can tack North with the stream or run South against it. Height:  The bridge North of Aswan is not yet complete – awaiting the final span.  When finished this would restrict mast height to that of the big cruise boats (30 – 40 feet at a guess). Formalities: I don’t know details, but almost certainly Yes.  Our felucca captain had to advise the police of our trip. Pleasure:  Definitely!  We swam in the river (no crocs below the High Dam), saw water buffalo, ibises etc.  We found people universally friendly, although a strong feeling that America would do anything to support Israel to the detriment of Arab states. Tony Boas Sadler 34 – Bold Warrior – Southampton, UK.

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Irving Johnson did his "TwiLight" cruise through the canals of Europe and up the Nile just before the Aswan dam was complete. I have the video here and it looks like a nice cruise. His boat was about 50 ft and moderate draft (not over 5 ft or he wouldn’t have been able to do the canals of Europe). I went to Egypt for a visit back in the mid 80s while I was working in Saudi Arabia. There was no problem as long as you didn’t have any Israeli stamps in you passport. I would imagine the climate is rather hostle now-a-days. I’d be more worried about stopping in Alexandria or transiting the Red Sea and it wouldn’t be the Egyptions that i would be afraid of. My opinion and experience, FWIW. Steve s/v Good Intentions

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A rich American cruising his flashy yacht in the Middle East…… Now THERE’s a TARGET of OPPORTUNITY for you. Hated by millions of Arabs because of our undying support for the Israeli War Machine…..tearing up Palestinians. Can you answer your own question?  PLEASE DON’T! larry I’d love to back to the Middle East where I lived and worked in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain.  But, not now.  Not after 9/11/2001, PLEASE DON"T! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m curious as to whether it is practical to cruise up and down the Nile R. with a private yacht. Legalities and other hassles: Practical draft limitations: Safety and pleasurability of your reception by the Egyptians: Any other information that may be of interest: —     Mark Anderson – DBA Riparia Resources    www.riparia.org Medical info for cruisers and woodworkers.  Boatbuilding plans. Artistic photography      Landscapes – Nautical and marine – Abstracts, extracts and themes.

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I’m curious as to whether it is practical to cruise up and down the Nile R. with a private yacht. Legalities and other hassles: Practical draft limitations: Safety and pleasurability of your reception by the Egyptians: Any other information that may be of interest: —      Mark Anderson – DBA Riparia Resources    www.riparia.org Medical info for cruisers and woodworkers.  Boatbuilding plans. Artistic photography       Landscapes – Nautical and marine – Abstracts, extracts and themes.

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My girlfriend and I are heading somewhere in the Caribbean this winter. Besides the usual sightseeing, I want to do some flyfishing for at least one and hopefully two days.  I would like to do battle with any combination of the following:  bonefish, permit, tarpon, jack crevalle etc.   I don’t want an exclusive fishing resort.  I was hoping for a regular tourist destination that I could hook up with a reputable guide, close by,  who could take me out for the day.  I have read some good things about the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico but am open to just about anywhere.  Any suggestions?  (Cuba is an option for us Canucks.) Tony Morrison London, Ontario.

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Cuba via Mexico…..no problem…. john

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My girlfriend and I are heading somewhere in the Caribbean this winter. Besides the usual sightseeing, I want to do some flyfishing for at least one and hopefully two days.  I would like to do battle with any combination of the following:  bonefish, permit, tarpon, jack crevalle etc.   I don’t want an exclusive fishing resort.  I was hoping for a regular tourist destination that I could hook up with a reputable guide, close by,  who could take me out for the day.  I have read some good things about the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico but am open to just about anywhere.  Any suggestions?  (Cuba is an option for us Canucks.) Tony Morrison London, Ontario.

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         I am just starting to learn how to fly fish.  I am currently using my friends equipment.  As I was looking around for my own equipment,  I quickly realized it is not very cheap.  If any one has any older equipment sitting around collecting dust,  I would appreciate it if you would either sell it to me very cheap or give me it to me please. I would be more than happy to pay for all shipping costs.  Please E-mail for my address. Thank you  Scott    

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        I am just starting to learn how to fly fish.  I am currently using my friends equipment.  As I was looking around for my own equipment,  I quickly realized it is not very cheap.  If any one has any older equipment sitting around collecting dust,  I would appreciate it if you would either sell it to me very cheap or give me it to me please. I would be more than happy to pay for all shipping costs.  Please E-mail for my address. Thank you Scott    

Wait till the clave is over.  There are likely going to be a number of multi-piece rods (formerly two piece) that will be on the market – real cheap. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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         I am just starting to learn how to fly fish.  I am currently using my friends equipment.  As I was looking around for my own equipment,  I quickly realized it is not very cheap.  If any one has any older equipment sitting around collecting dust,  I would appreciate it if you would either sell it to me very cheap or give me it to me please. I would be more than happy to pay for all shipping costs.  Please E-mail for my address.

Get a Cabela’s catalog. If you can’t afford their stuff you need to find another hobby, — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Get a Cabela’s catalog. If you can’t afford their stuff you need to find another hobby,

Good advice.  You would do that by going to http://www.cabelas.com  You should be able to get started for less than $100, and it’s not bad stuff.  You might try e-bay too.  I’m sure there’s used stuff out there, but it’s hard to find. — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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Good advice.  You would do that by going to http://www.cabelas.com  You should be able to get started for less than $100, and it’s not bad stuff.  You might try e-bay too.  I’m sure there’s used stuff out there, but it’s hard to find.

Hard to find?  Nah, there are 272 fly rods for sale on ebay right now.  This one’s about to end, $13.50. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320507767 Regards, Jeff

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         I am just starting to learn how to fly fish.  I am currently using my friends equipment.  As I was looking around for my own equipment,  I quickly realized it is not very cheap.  If any one has any older equipment sitting around collecting dust,  I would appreciate it if you would either sell it to me very cheap or give me it to me please. I would be more than happy to pay for all shipping costs.  Please E-mail for my address.

I started out with a Martin outfit from Wal-Mart a few years ago.  It wasn’t the best, but for just starting out for something like $35.00 you get a 3 piece rod, a reel with backing, and fly line.  You have to buy some leaders and your flies to start, but what the hell for under 50 bucks you can be fly fishing.  Every couple of years I up date and get a new rod and reel set up…come to think about I feel I’m due again  Problem is It seems to keep getting more and more expensive… I just seen a nice 4 weight split bamboo rod at the shop selling for $500 and the reel was around $250….I don’t think the wife will go for this set up though.  I guess I’ll dream for just a little long for now…. anyone have the winning numbers for tonight’s lottery ahead of time? –Randy

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Wayne Knight: (envious story snipped) Oh yea, I’ve still never been stumped in MO

Here we are sittin’ out a snow storm and you’re fishing!  ’Tain’t fair.  It was a good day, Wayne, just to be out there. Dave L.

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Ok, Forty you asked for it….

Thanks, big guy. Always nice to read of a friends fishin’ trip while stuck up here in the snow. — Ken Fortenberry

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Ok, Forty you asked for it…. Thanks, big guy. Always nice to read of a friends fishin’ trip while stuck up here in the snow.

FWIW, they are calling for snow here tonight and tomorrow. Sure hope it does not impede my flight home to Geneva on Friday. Hopefully tho, my daughter will have the driveway and sidewalks shoveled for me by the time I do get home. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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[trip snip] Thank you Kerry for a great time, and if any of you out there ever decide to visit SW Missouri for a little fishing, be sure and drop Kerry an email. Oh yea, I’ve still never been stumped in MO — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

Y’know that’s really cruel to post such a report to the snowbound.  :)

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Ok, Forty you asked for it…. I drove out of Kansas to Aurora Mo this past weekend where I met up with Kerry Evans, a contributor to the board, and a long time resident of SW Missouri. Crane is a creek I’ve been hearing about for about a year and wanted to try, plus it is about the closest real trout water to Halstead KS, being only 260 miles away, and whatever it’s faults as a fishing destination, eastern Kansas has some damn good roads <g. All things being equal, I would have prefered to let the weather change a little more but not having seen a trout since October I was going through withdrawal symptons. After meeting for breakfast, I followed Kerry to the creek. Yup the water is low, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelly low, and it was is gin clear. The only other time I’ve seen water this clear has been in WI spring creeks in the fall, never in the winter. Kerry did his best to put me over fish, even though the water was low, there were enough deep pools to support fish. Funny thing with a couple of exceptions we would fish the pools and see nothing and then cross the stream in 6" water and see fish scattering away from us…..There was this one pool which we saw several fish, but just could not get them to take our offerings. We did find some rising fish and we did our best to put them down Being winter, while there was some insect activity on the surface, the bugs were small. A size 20 Griffith’s Gnat might as well been a #10 Green Drake, these bugs were that small. Yours truly at the start was casting, if you want to call it that, as if I was just learning what a fly rod was having forgot my backcast, drink, forward cast routine…..and I probably had a false since of security, it being winter and all was not being too careful with the brush around the stream. I admit, I was cocky, I had never been stumped in Missouri before and really did not want to stealth my overweight out of shape self. Kerry was great, he is a fine fly fisher, a super guy, and to boot, he builds a rather nice rod too. But as sometimes happen, he too could not connect fly with fish. Finally, about halfway down the section we were fishing, we came upon a pool with two risers, Kerry being the gracious host he was, offered the pool to me. I figured screw it on the small stuff and tied on a favorite Michigan pattern, a size 14 parachute Robert’s Drake figuring that maybe the bow’s wanted a real meal for a change. After deteriming the first riser was a little one, I did my best Fortenberry imitation and slid along the pool side and side armed cast the drake under a tree branch to the other riser…..I was rewarded with a healthy bow which turned out to be the only fish of the day. Though the fishing was tough, and frankly had we been a little more careful, we might have been better rewarded, but we only saw one other fisherman and last we checked, he had not been successful. The creek needs some water but I will be back and will be better prepared next time. I bet in spring and fall colors the stream scenery is just dynamite. And Kerry told me about some other streams which have not been written about, they will stay a secret but I will be visiting them too! Thank you Kerry for a great time, and if any of you out there ever decide to visit SW Missouri for a little fishing, be sure and drop Kerry an email. Oh yea, I’ve still never been stumped in MO — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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I know that you specifically wanted a rod of 7′ or longer, but my recommendation is actually a bit smaller.   For several years G. Loomis manufactured a 6′ 6" 3 weight that was superb.   It was an IM6 rod, designated the 783.   The blank was available for $78, and I built quite a number of them for myself and for friends.   The rod was a truly superb casting tool, and while it was at its best doing 20-25 foot rapid casts fishing dries in pocket water, it actually had the backbone to lay out 50 feet of line or better at need.     You can still find the blanks from time to time, and I’d highly recommend them.   I believe that Loomis actually produced this blank in one of the newer series with a higher modulus graphite, but I haven’t personally used one.                                 Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Vern, I can tell you that most of the small rods that a under $300 won’t load up with a #2 or #3 line. If a rod is rated #2/3 and needs a #4 line to load it up at 30′, well it is a 4 weight rod. I would buy a small reel and put on a double taper 2 or 3 floating line and then go find a rod 8′ or less that cast it well. You will have fun with this rod. If money is no object, I would look at the Sage 8′ 2" #2 SPL or the Winston 7′6" #2 IM6. If you have about $2,100 to spend, I would get a Winston split cane 7′6" #4 for small streams? I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern  ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/     v   {—} Before you buy.

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Why? Vern U. i speak, of course, of the one, the only, thomas & thomas!  don’t make no diff’rence about how long it is…just make sure it’s a thomas.

The esteemed barrister is correct on this one.. Cast a Paradigm, sweet forgiving moderate action which still allows for some booming. Cast a Vector, fast action rod with a forgiving tip, cast an LPS, almost nothing will lay a fly down as soft. The only company even close to them is Winston, IMO. In their many models, some of us think they are the best rods out there, better yet try and get your hands on a discontinued Heritage or XL model. Sadly, or gladly their marketing is not as good as the others and to a certain extent there a victim of their own arrogance but get your hands on one and you might well be…..changed. In this case you do get what you pay for. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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If money is no object, I would look at the Sage 8′ 2" #2 SPL or the Winston 7′6" #2 IM6.  If you have about $2,100 to spend, I would get a Winston split cane 7′6" #4 for small streams?

Bill, If money is no object then he needs to have Brackett custom make him a Winston Quadrate 7′#3 for $2,550 or if insists upon graphite get one of aren’t as good as T&T’s but those quads are something else. I’m sure you’re a fine fly shop owner but man it’s business, get a little greedier — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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Is this recommendation primarily price or performance driven? Vern U. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yeah, what he said.  Don’t you just hate metooers?  Seriously, the Cabela’s 3 Forks 7 footer is a sweet little rod and I picked up the combo on

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Why? Vern U. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i speak, of course, of the one, the only, thomas & thomas!  don’t make no diff’rence about how long it is…just make sure it’s a thomas.

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Hi Vern, I can tell you that most of the small rods that a under $300 won’t load up with a #2 or #3 line. If a rod is rated #2/3 and needs a #4 line to load it up at 30′, well it is a 4 weight rod. I would buy a small reel and put on a double taper 2 or 3 floating line and then go find a rod 8′ or less that cast it well. You will have fun with this rod. If money is no object, I would look at the Sage 8′ 2" #2 SPL or the Winston 7′6" #2 IM6.  If you have about $2,100 to spend, I would get a Winston split cane 7′6" #4 for small streams?

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks. Vern, last November, I purchased a St. Croix Legend Ultra 3wt

I built a 7.5′ 3wt rod from a Legend Ultra blank and agree that it is a nice rod for small streams. — Charlie…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern Vern: I’ll give you a recommendation you’ve seen before – the Cabela’s Three Forks 7.5′ three piece, with reel, line and backing for around $50 as I recall.  The other recommendations I’ve seen are good, but at that price you will not believe the quality of that rod.  John Popp got me in to this, and I haven’t seen him post recently – guess it’s up to me to carry the Cabela’s banner for a while.  I’ve got Winstons and Scotts that are great, but when you compare the price…. Mark Faulkner

        well, now, vern, ol man, you can either listen to marky boy, here (he’s a lawyer, you know…hell, what’s worse is, he is a goddam *yankee* lawyer, and you know how little you can trust *those* bastards!  btw, have i told you the story of the lawyer and the priest and the…), and all these other well-meaning slugs; *or* you can forget all about these cheap noodle sticks and get you an honest to god *fly rod*:  i speak, of course, of the one, the only, thomas & thomas!  don’t make no diff’rence about how long it is…just make sure it’s a thomas. wayno, paragon of objectivity – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern Vern: I’ll give you a recommendation you’ve seen before – the Cabela’s Three Forks 7.5′ three piece, with reel, line and backing for around $50 as I recall.  The other recommendations I’ve seen are good, but at that price you will not believe the quality of that rod.  John Popp got me in to this, and I haven’t seen him post recently – guess it’s up to me to carry the Cabela’s banner for a while.  I’ve got Winstons and Scotts that are great, but when you compare the price…. Mark Faulkner         well, now, vern, ol man, you can either listen to marky boy, here (he’s a lawyer, you know…hell, what’s worse is, he is a goddam *yankee* lawyer, and you know how little you can trust *those* bastards!  btw, have i told you the story of the lawyer and the priest and the…), and all these other well-meaning slugs; *or* you can forget all about these cheap noodle sticks and get you an honest to god *fly rod*:  i speak, of course, of the one, the only, thomas & thomas!  don’t make no diff’rence about how long it is…just make sure it’s a thomas. wayno, paragon of objectivity

Vern, you can take wayno’s advise, but be forewarned. You will be taking advise from a temporal filament of a Harry Crews novel. I shake you not. I have witnessed this man, he is the hawk is dying, childhood, car, and gospel singer rolled into one very effusive melodramatic personality. After all, he’s darwinian waldo, paragon of fiction — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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I’ve heard that the inexpensive lower wt rods have a problem loading correctly.  Does anyone else have a problem with this?  How about the Diamondback Classic Trout 2 piece 7′ 9" 2 wt or 3 wt rod?  I saw it on ezflyfish.com for $430.  Now that Diamondback is associated with Cortland, does any one know if the prices will stay the same? Vern U. Before you buy.

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I’ve heard that the inexpensive lower wt rods have a problem loading correctly.  Does anyone else have a problem with this?  How about the Diamondback Classic Trout 2 piece 7′ 9" 2 wt or 3 wt rod?  I saw it on ezflyfish.com for $430.  Now that Diamondback is associated with Cortland, does any one know if the prices will stay the same? Vern U. Before you buy.

ok Vern, you sucked me in to this tempest. Without journeying down the perilous path of the merits of a 50 or 60 dollar outfit, let it be understood, that those outfits are "great" in price. Performance is another matter that is best determined in the hands of the berodder. IMO, the Diamondback Classic Trout will be too slow for you. It is a rod that performs admirably on the small streams here in the east but for the large Western rivers (and I’m assuming that is what you are buying for) I would go with a faster rod. The All-American is a beat or two faster and economically priced. The VSR and Aero-flex are faster rods that would serve you well on Western rivers. There isn’t much press here in America for the Hardy Graphites. Their downfall of course is not offering a lifetime warranty which in all likelihood will be changing soon. With that said, I’ve fished all of their models and I’d rate them very, very good. The Ultralite Plus is fast, in fact, way too fast for the small stream fishing that I do. I was more comfortable with the Ultralite and the Featherlite models here. Addressing your last question, I’d be very surprised to see a lowering of price on the Diamondback line. Perusing the latest pricing literature, it does appear that the 1998-99 prices will remain the same through the 2000 season. –Walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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Mu, if it is in Albuquerque, it is the same.  Bob started his shop about 3 years ago, I think, to supplement his rod building.  I haven’t seen a net page yet but if I do, I’ll send it to you. DP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fish a lot in New Mexico which is the land of small streams.  Bob Widgren of Los Pinos Rods in Albuquerque is fairly famous locally for his nice work, especially the short rods. If he’s associated with Los Pinos Fly Shop, just gotta say they were the first fly shop where I walked in and felt really welcome. Mu

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern  ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/     v   {—} Before you buy.

I fish a lot in New Mexico which is the land of small streams.  Bob Widgren of Los Pinos Rods in Albuquerque is fairly famous locally for his nice work, especially the short rods.  I have a 7′ 4wt and an 8′ 5wt that are Powell blanks.  Bob uses a different blank now and will build you just about anything you want.  His prices are right in line with factory also.  The 7′ is a wonderful little wand for wading down a willow canopied stream (Rio in NM!).  The Cimarron River from Eagles Nest Dam through the canyon is a perfect place for these little rods.  I purchased this year a Scott 7 1/2′ 3wt STS which is really nice.  It is a faster rod than my Scott PowrPly but is not too fast.  I don’t think they are going to make this rod anymore which is a shame. Hope that helped. DP

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern  ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/     v   {—} Before you buy.

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.

Sounds like cane water to me but if you insist upon plastic… Any Winston IM6, T&T LPS, or if you can fine one, the Sage LL’s would treat you right. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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bc, I got a #3 Teton for spring. They coil the line up in neat little loops, just how I like it ! (not) I regret not getting the #4 for my 3wt rod instead. No complaints about the quality or overall performance though, a couple of 3-4lb hen rainbows last November got me into the backing, the little Teton must have been doing 15,000rpm! A number of people have commented on the reel, thinking it was a toy, or an ornament. Cheers John Knight Sydney FlyRodders’

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern

Vern: I’ll give you a recommendation you’ve seen before – the Cabela’s Three Forks 7.5′ three piece, with reel, line and backing for around $50 as I recall.  The other recommendations I’ve seen are good, but at that price you will not believe the quality of that rod.  John Popp got me in to this, and I haven’t seen him post recently – guess it’s up to me to carry the Cabela’s banner for a while.  I’ve got Winstons and Scotts that are great, but when you compare the price…. Mark Faulkner

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I fish a lot in New Mexico which is the land of small streams.  Bob Widgren of Los Pinos Rods in Albuquerque is fairly famous locally for his nice work, especially the short rods.

If he’s associated with Los Pinos Fly Shop, just gotta say they were the first fly shop where I walked in and felt really welcome. Mu

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern

Wait, wait, wait,….we’ve got this all wrong!  Vern was asking for a fly rod for a FLY-FISHING-MIDGET!  Obviously what Vern is looking for is an Orvis Midge 7′ 3 wt. rod with Midge Heirloom 2-3 reel!  Now, Orvis doesn’t list the Midge in their on-line catalogue but I’m sure there are a few out there on e-bay or gathering dust in the ROFF attics.  How ’bout it fellows!?  Got Midge?! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Yeah, what he said.  Don’t you just hate metooers?  Seriously, the Cabela’s 3 Forks 7 footer is a sweet little rod and I picked up the combo on they’re *giving* you the reel, line, backing and a SA leader.  Tough to beat this one.  I was so impressed I went right back to the trough and bought their 8′ 5 wt combo for the same price.  I don’t think there’s another rod on the market today that can come even close to these for the price, a surprisingly nice rod.  Good luck on your search Vern.– Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.   Vern Vern: I’ll give you a recommendation you’ve seen before – the Cabela’s Three Forks 7.5′ three piece, with reel, line and backing for around $50 as I recall.  The other recommendations I’ve seen are good, but at that price you will not believe the quality of that rod.  John Popp got me in to this, and I haven’t seen him post recently – guess it’s up to me to carry the Cabela’s banner for a while.  I’ve got Winstons and Scotts that are great, but when you compare the price…. Mark Faulkner

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 I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.

Vern, last November, I purchased a St. Croix Legend Ultra 3wt and paired it up with a Teton #3 reel.  Incredible combination. Rod has anodized aluminum reel seats, a non-glare titanium finish, bird’s-eye maple inserts, Titanium plated single foot fly guides, Super Grade Cork Handle.  Unconditional lifetime warranty. Rod $250.00, Reel $160.00, time spent fishing – priceless bc.

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Vern, Have a look at the Diamondback.  My 6.5 ft. rod is a dream of a 3 wt. Ezflyfish sells this rod.  St. Croix also has a nice rod in this class.  It is a little faster than the Diamondback and has a different feel.  Try them both and see what you think. Wayne To fish is human…to release Divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.  Vern ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/    v  {—} Before you buy.

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I’m looking for a nice 7′-7.5′ 2/3 wt rod for small streams.  Could someone suggest a nice rod to get?  Thanks.

Vern, I had a desire for the same rod a few years ago, so I decided I’d save a few dollars and build one as a winter project.  I used a  6 1/2′ Pacific Bay 2-wt. blank, purchased for about $40, and decent hardware.   The rod is "OK" at best.   Skimping on the blank was the problem.   I have a suspicion that with a rod this small, the blank quality will make a more noticeable difference in rod performance. Anyway, the rod is a ball, and I regret not building it with a better blank. I like using the small rod so much, I’ll probably replace it with a new St.Croix, or build a better rod of similar proportion. Have fun, Bob Scott

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bc, I got a #3 Teton for spring. They coil the line up in neat little loops, just how I like it ! (not)

I have not had that problem…..yet.  But I have only had it for two months now and have only fished with it 6 times.  I plan on using it this weekend in Colorado.  I am using the Rio Camo 3wt fly line with mine. I regret not getting the #4 for my 3wt rod instead. No complaints about the quality or overall performance though, a couple of 3-4lb hen rainbows last November got me into the backing, the little Teton must have been doing 15,000rpm!

Yea last month near the dam on the San Juan I hooked a monster.  It made the most high pitch scream I have heard a reel make.  Next thing I know I saw bright green dacron shooting up my eyelets. I looked over at Andy Kim who was busy with his own lunker, saying, "Hey Andy I know what color my backing is."   I think I had 3 loops of backing left before I got the fish to turn.  The damn thing was clear across the other side of the river.  Well after 15-20 minutes, I knelt down, released a nice fat bow.  Andy just looked at me, and said, "Ah Dave, you have become very self sufficient." A number of people have commented on the reel, thinking it was a toy, or an ornament.

I looked at the #4, but I liked how it balanced with my Legend Ultra 3wt. bc.

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Kennedy) writes: great flyfishing in duck mountain prov park .rainbow,brooks, splake, brown, pike, arctic char.five hours from winnipeg manitoba canada by for more information .belly boat works best up here.

Why would I want to fish in some dumb park like that when I’ve got access to the Au Sable, Manistee, Pidgeon, Jordan, Betsy, Escanaba, Pierre Marquette…unless of course it was another of the bullshit Spams trying to lie to us again. Wayne Knight Geneva IL                            

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Lars You got through to the newsgroup just fine. — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products On line catalog – tips & tricks at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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I doubt if you’d be safe from commercial sex site solicitations even at rec.fly-fishing.

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I doubt if you’d be safe from commercial sex site solicitations even at rec.fly-fishing.

Hey, I’d not object to a jpg of christine in some hip waders… TimW

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. I need some advise. oh! I also took a class on casting a year ago so I think I now how to hold the rod and get a cast off.

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle.

This is only an opinion of course, but I think a 7wt is heavy for trout. an 8′/7w might be great for bass – I’d even use it for schoolie striper fishing (if it was another foot longer). I have to believe an 8′ 7wt must feel a bit on the "clubby" side… If you haven’t used this rod/reel yet, perhaps you might be able to exchange it for a more "troutie" rod? I’d go for a 9′/5wt as an all-rounder trout/panfish rod myself… /dave (who caught and released 29 rainbow clones on a single Gray Ghost this         afternoon. The shredded remains were retired with full honors…;^) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. This is only an opinion of course, but I think a 7wt is heavy for trout. an 8′/7w might be great for bass – I’d even use it for schoolie striper fishing (if it was another foot longer). I have to believe an 8′ 7wt must feel a bit on the "clubby" side… If you haven’t used this rod/reel yet, perhaps you might be able to exchange it for a more "troutie" rod? I’d go for a 9′/5wt as an all-rounder trout/panfish rod myself… /dave (who caught and released 29 rainbow clones on a single Gray Ghost this         afternoon. The shredded remains were retired with full honors…;^)

My first fly rod was a 7 wt also.  I used it for a season or so until I was sure I wanted to persue the sport (duh?).  Then I saved up and got a nice 5 wt.  The 7 wt is now my spare, and I haven’t used it since, although like Dave says, it would make a good bass rod, but I’d rather fish for trout.   A sunny day,      a box of midges,         and a wandering stream…   Man, this MUST be heaven!   <    Steve Kulpa    <<

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. I need some advise. oh! I also took a class on casting a year ago so I think I now how to hold the rod and get a cast off.

Go out right now and build an addition on to your house to store all your fishing equipment that you will eventually buy. I can’t afford to purchase all the rods that I would like to have.. But I have a great time with ones I have.. I fished with an 8wt for 15 years till I broke it just this past spring. I caught everything on that rod. from Trout on up to chinook salmon. I actually wore out a pfluger reel. So I guess what i’m saying is that the 7wt you have is fine for fishing on just about any waters in the US. Of course who wouldn’t want a nice little 9′ 5wt for going after trout, or maybe a 9′ 1wt for eastern brook trout or farm pond bluegill.. I’ve only purchased three rods in my lifetime. My first 8wt.. my new 7wt.. and then a powerhouse of a rod a 9.5′ 10wt. I got a tuna on the 10wt just last september. But I sincerly believe that the 8wt could have handled it with a large enough spool capacity. Anyway, thats my story.. and I’m sticking to it.. keg

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Dave, There are lots of differences in fly rods. It’s hard to say that a 8′ 7 weight rod is definitely too big for your conditions.  Athough, I would venture to say that most fly fishers would tend to tell you that. Give it try.  If your horseing fish out of your pond as if your holding a broom stick, you might consider something smaller.  Contrary to poplular believe, you don’t have to spend a small fortune on a fly rod that will give you many hours of enjoyment. Dave Burks, Loveland, CO.

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