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UNC has several campuses, the most well-known of which is in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The Chapel Hill campus mascot is the Tar Heel, which of course was named after a well-known fly fishing alumnus who wades *really, really slowly* so as not to fall over backwards. –Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – inquiry snipped Terry

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I have just checked out the list and have not seen any postings by uncle george. I thought perhaps he had finally given up on the list and got on with something worthwhile until I checked out his website and found it not to have been updated. Terry

HWMNBN claims to be hanging around the Mayo Clinic…

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I have just checked out the list and have not seen any postings by uncle george. I thought perhaps he had finally given up on the list and got on with something worthwhile until I checked out his website and found it not to have been updated. Terry

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Thanks, I guess years of talking through his arse ‘ole has taken its toll? Joking aside, I hope it is not serious but I know he has some half decent cane. The beveller is not worth a shit though! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have just checked out the list and have not seen any postings by uncle george. I thought perhaps he had finally given up on the list and got on with something worthwhile until I checked out his website and found it not to have been updated. Terry HWMNBN claims to be hanging around the Mayo Clinic…

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks.

The Nikon Nikonos… assuming you’ve got the bucks.  It however is really designed for underwater photography and its lenses and accesories are desgined for that environment.. no long lenses etc. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks.

Hi, Bill.  If you’re not planning on taking tons of underwater photos, stay away from the Nikonos line, as well as all other SLR’s.  Beautiful cameras, but a bit overkill for what it sounds like what you’re looking for.  If you do need an SLR, get one of those transparent housings that are held in place by screwing them onto the front of the lens… they look like transparent plastic bags.  Otherwise, go with a p&s.  You might look at Minolta’s zoom p&s that goes to 33 feet, Canon’s A-1 (non-zoom) to 16 feet, or even Pentax’s Espio 105WR (38-105mm).  This last one is Class 5 weather resistant, can have water dumped on it, and floats if dropped into water.  Just some thoughts. chris

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I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now?

Here is a comparison chart of all water-resistant cameras currently on the market, along with some non-water-resistant competitors:   http://creekin.net/cameras.htm Prices and weights included.

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Hi, Bill.  If you’re not planning on taking tons of underwater photos, stay away from the Nikonos line, as well as all other SLR’s.  Beautiful cameras, but a bit overkill for what it sounds like what you’re looking for.  If you do need an SLR, SNIP<

Just to avoid confusion, the Nikonoses which have been recommended (I’ve seen a recommendation for the III, a couple for the IV-A, and mine for a used V or IV-A) are not SLRs. They are viewfinder cameras that take interchangebable lenses (similar to rangefinder, but they don’t use a rangefinder for focusing). I’ve used Nikonos viewfinder cameras for maybe 10 years, and I get most of my use on dry land. My underwater use is snorkeling, and they would probably qualify as overkill even for that use, but they are, in my estimation, excellent cameras overall, even on land. And they are built like tanks. If the camera Bill chooses is going to get rough treatment on his trips, I would not shy away from a Nikonos as overkill. — Phil Stripling               | email to the replyto address is presumed http://www.cieux.com/        | civex.com is read daily.

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You might look into getting a Nikonos IVa with a 35mm lens. It’s made by Nikon and, with good seals, is waterproof, sandproof, and (unless you open the back to change film) sturdy. = = = – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

Before you buy.

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Check out also the Sea & Sea Motomartine or Motormarine, which offers compatability with the Nikonos line at much less cost. Be aware that many of the lenses can be used ONLY underwater, so check that out carefully. In the P&S line Canon (I believe) makes one that is waterproof to a couple of meters. Much better than the weatherized kind for you I think. This is probably your best choice, as it is designed to work above water as well. Nikon made an underwater P&S about 10 years ago which was a great camera for the kind of situation you describe, but which has, sadly, been discontinued. Good luck, — Toby

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Bill, The only true waterproof camera is the Nikonos by Nikon. They work above water as well as underwater.  They are, of course, expensive.  I have a Nikonos III w/28mm lens, strobe, etc. in floating equipment case that I need to sell.  This system has been used only three times.  If you know any divers, they probably know this camera well. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Anyone have any experience flyfishing in PR or Vieques? We’re headed there shortly and need any info you guys & ladies might have. Thanks, Bill Way

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Im told that Vieques can be quite a blast. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have any experience flyfishing in PR or Vieques? We’re headed there shortly and need any info you guys & ladies might have. Thanks, Bill Way

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I spent a couple of months down there in the US Navy and I had a blast with the baracuda, gar, croaker, and tarpon. All over the area. You will love it. make sure you have some braided leaders or wire of some sorts. ‘Cudas bite right through it. Also need som 10-20 pound leaders and tippet material. The best colors were blue/white and chartreuse/white. Others worked but not as well. I caught many other species of fish, but I couldn’t tell you what they were. Hope you enjoy the fishing. There are some flats to chose from as well as some good accessible deeper areas. Good fishing Gordo When in doubt, toss ‘em a fly. Who knows, may be your day. Gordo

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Interested in fly fishing and fishing Puerto Rico? See www.fishinginpuertorico.com for more information. Mark V. <’< – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I spent a couple of months down there in the US Navy and I had a blast with the baracuda, gar, croaker, and tarpon. All over the area. You will love it. make sure you have some braided leaders or wire of some sorts. ‘Cudas bite right through it. Also need som 10-20 pound leaders and tippet material. The best colors were blue/white and chartreuse/white. Others worked but not as well. I caught many other species of fish, but I couldn’t tell you what they were. Hope you enjoy the fishing. There are some flats to chose from as well as some good accessible deeper areas. Good fishing Gordo When in doubt, toss ‘em a fly. Who knows, may be your day. Gordo

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I need to buy some new DT, #6 fly line to replace my old, green double taper.  There are so many different colors available now:  fluorescent orange or mint green, Hi-Vis Chartreuse, moon glo, etc.  Any pros or cons on the high visibility lines?  I like the idea and am kind of partial to the fluorescent orange but I’m not sure how the fish feel about it.   Please respond by e-mail as well as to the group as my news server is not reliable. Thanks, — To reply, remove one "bs" from E-mail address

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A fish looking up at a floating fly line will see it as a black outline against the sky regardless of what colour it is. Buy the colour that you will be able to see best in your fishing environment. I suspect you will now be inundated with people telling you otherwise, such is life! — Regards Peter (Remove "nospam"to email)

:I need to buy some new DT, #6 fly line to replace my old, green double :taper.  There are so many different colors available now:  fluorescent range or mint green, Hi-Vis Chartreuse, moon glo, etc.  Any pros or cons n the high visibility lines?  I like the idea and am kind of partial to :the fluorescent orange but I’m not sure how the fish feel about it. :  Please respond by e-mail as well as to the group as my news server is :not reliable. : :Thanks, : :– :To reply, remove one "bs" from E-mail address

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I would have to agree with the other post.  If the flyline is close enough to get noticed by the fish you’ve got problems no matter what color it is. Good Fishing C. Segina

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Another trick I’ve employed (I think) successfully is to "camoflage" the last 20 feet of fly line by marking it up with olive and brown Prismatic waterproof markers. Not only does this eliminate (or at least reduce) the appearance of a solid line in the water, the tiger-stripe type markings let you gauge very accurate which part of the line is drifting faster or slower to help you make appropriate mends and achieve longer draft-diminished drifts. Dave McCarty

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Peter,   Thanks for the response.  I didn’t suppose that color of the line must make much difference or they wouldn’t offer so many color combinations.  It’s kind of funny that most fly tying instructions seem very specific about certain materials and colors and   if you don’t use the proper combination you won’t catch fish but you can plop  any color fly line on the water and it will be OK.  I guess the leader puts enough distance between fly and line so that the line is not noticed.   It seems like the bright orange line would be like a giant strike indicator and would come in handy for fishing nymphs. Thanks, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A fish looking up at a floating fly line will see it as a black outline against the sky regardless of what colour it is. Buy the colour that you will be able to see best in your fishing environment. I suspect you will now be inundated with people telling you otherwise, such is life! — Regards Peter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter,   Thanks for the response.  I didn’t suppose that color of the line must make much difference or they wouldn’t offer so many color combinations.  It’s kind of funny that most fly tying instructions seem very specific about certain materials and colors and if you don’t use the proper combination you won’t catch fish but you can plop  any color fly line on the water and it will be OK.  I guess the leader puts enough distance between fly and line so that the line is not noticed.   It seems like the bright orange line would be like a giant strike indicator and would come in handy for fishing nymphs. Thanks, A fish looking up at a floating fly line will see it as a black outline against the sky regardless of what colour it is. Buy the colour that you will be able to see best in your fishing environment. I suspect you will now be inundated with people telling you otherwise, such is life! — Regards Peter

      It do, It do. So must be highly visible to the fisherman.                                                          John Popp                                                       in Sanford Fl.

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I have flyfished nearly daily (at least 6 months of the year) for the past 7 years or so, and part time for most of the last 30+ years. During that time I have worn out at least one line per season. I have tried many colors during that time, and experience tells me that color does make a difference. Two years ago, a hunting friend related to me how his bowhunting had improved dramatically after using special treatments to kill the Ultra Violet rays in his hunting clothes (both regular camo and hunter orange) claiming that game animals, many birds, and some fish react badly to clothing reflecting these light spectrums. Without getting too technical, their eyes have adopted and evolved over time to work in the very low light conditions of dawn and dusk when UV light is about all of the spectrum still present. Studies in the last 3 or 4 years have pretty well documented that these portions of the spectrum are far more visable to many other creatures than they are to humans. I read a good deal about it, and gave it a skeptical try. I was shocked to see my good camo glowing like crazy under a blacklight test. On the other hand, my Filson bright red & black checkered wool double mack cruiser(worn for about 100 years by some of the best guides in the world) was practically invisible. I learned that I could not guess before turning out the lights, which fabrics would glare bright purple(to me..) and which turned from colorful to dead black(no reflection). After spraying my clothes and a repeat of the tests under blacklight, the difference was astounding. But flick the light back on, and they look the same as they always have! The product I used is called U.V. Blocker. It’s made by the Atsko Company (Snow Seal, etc.) and they put out an excellent publication regarding this subject that is provided free with their Sport Wash/UV Blocker combo package (about $11 for both products and the book). They may even have a web site as it is a large company. I haven’t tried the UV blocker on my fly line, but I am tempted! Anyway, the increase in my hunting success was trmendous, and I no longer assume animals, birds, or fish see the same colors as we do. I now stay away from anything that flouresces under a black light. Unbeknowst to me, my forest color untreated camo was as visible to the game animals as a ripe tomatoe is to you on a bright green bush, especially at the most important hunting times of dawn and dusk. As a bow and rifle hunter for almost three months of the year, my field tests are not very scientific, but they are numerous, and I can assure you that there is a difference. The discoveries being made in these areas are still in their infancy. My vote would be to take a chance with the bright line if you are new to the sport and need the brightly colored line to aid in watching your backcast, mending, or detecting strikes. Otherwise, go as far away from the UV colors as you can get. Oddly enough, manufacturers of hunting camo for the most part still intentionally add UV brighteners to their fabrics even though they are aware (or should be)of the detrimental effect they have on game. Their product does appear slightly "brighter" to the human eye on the store shelf and I suppose they are more interested in selling it to you than in your success afterwards. It is possible that line manufacturers know the same thing. That bright orange sure looks better in the box than what I have on MY reel. Trust your initial observations regarding fly color being important… And yes, I am fully aware that people I respect and admire will disagree. All I can tell you about that is that I catch more trout than they do The Tortoise   Thanks for the response.  I didn’t suppose that color of the line must make much difference or they wouldn’t offer so many color combinations.  It’s kind of funny that most fly tying instructions seem very specific about certain materials and colors and if you don’t use the proper combination you won’t catch fish but you can plop  any color fly line on the water and it will be OK.

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– Regards Peter (Please also reply by email, my server "loses" posts. Remove nospam to email) 9:10:28 PM     Friday, April 24, 1998 I am a big fan of grey lines.  Not very good for photographs, awesome for fishing!

 Presumeably then the new breed of clear fly lines are going to put all the others out of business? I don’t doubt that grey/clear lines have their uses, as you say, in clear shallow water, but certainly for most of the fishing we do in the UK, no difference for the reasons I have already mentioned. That is a great topic!  Awesome, this is what the news groups are for,

I agree! learning.  The cat that said fly line color doesn’t matter is probably fooling himself.

No, see previous comments. I actually use an Airflo 7000 Glass which is almost translucent pale blue and generally fish a 18-20 ft leader. Why then am I sometimes outfished by people with bright orange hi viz lines? Probably because they can see delicate takes that I am missing. Very difficult to see gentle takes at 25 yards + with a pale line in ripple. The fly color, shot color and fly line along with the flash of a bright object over head of the fish all come to play while fly fishing.  Thanks for the tip on the camo, I plan to invest in some better fishing clothes, nee on the bright stuff I always say.  Stealthy presentation! So, I make a Internet magazine about small stream fly fishing.

Perfect conditions for light/clear lines.  I invite – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -anyone to make a article about this topic, I will post the article.  I am sure that there will be a tremendous debate over it… Thanks all, adam Small Stream Fly Fishing http://www.smallstreams.com

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Bob When you use a fly, it is generally IN the water with the trout which do have colour vision. Even dry flies need to be at least an approximation of the natural as they are open to very close inspection by the fish as you will know if you have watched them swim up and then swim away like I have!! Fly line on the other hand, is only seen in silhouette and not closely inspected, so no problem. — Regards Peter (Please also reply by email, my server "loses" posts. Remove nospam to email) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter,  Thanks for the response.  I didn’t suppose that color of the line must make much difference or they wouldn’t offer so many color combinations.  It’s kind of funny that most fly tying instructions seem very specific about certain materials and colors and if you don’t use the proper combination you won’t catch fish but you can plop  any color fly line on the water and it will be OK.  I guess the leader puts enough

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9:10:28 PM     Friday, April 24, 1998 I am a big fan of grey lines.  Not very good for photographs, awesome for fishing!   Lee’s Ferry, a tailwater in North Central Arizona is my test bed.  My fishing partner, new to Lee’s Ferry brought his BRIGHT HI VIS ORANGE fly line.  While dead drifting nymphs on a 9 foot leader in gin clear water, he just could not seem to catch trout.  I thought it was his technique.  I am catching fish left right and center, my buddy, zip.  He gets a big tangle in his leader, and starts cursing because he doesn’t have another one (second mistake).  I give him my rig to fish while I rig a new leader for him. First cast with my rig, he is into a big rainbow (grey line).  We laugh, so with his rig ready (ORANGE fly line) I start to fish it.  Nothing, not one fish!  He is now catching fish with my rig and I have the same leader and shot/fly combo and I am not catching with the ORANGE fly line. I agree with the fellow about the UV spectrum.  My favorite fishing times are in low light conditions, seems the fishing is better then, and that is the nature of things, UV spectrum development. That is a great topic!  Awesome, this is what the news groups are for, learning.  The cat that said fly line color doesn’t matter is probably fooling himself.  The fly color, shot color and fly line along with the flash of a bright object over head of the fish all come to play while fly fishing.  Thanks for the tip on the camo, I plan to invest in some better fishing clothes, nee on the bright stuff I always say.  Stealthy presentation! So, I make a Internet magazine about small stream fly fishing.  I invite anyone to make a article about this topic, I will post the article.  I am sure that there will be a tremendous debate over it… Thanks all, adam Small Stream Fly Fishing http://www.smallstreams.com

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I’ll be in Portland (weather permitting) from the 15-19 of Jan (This weekend) and I’m looking for info on a spot to try for a days fishing. Preferably if someone is interested in taking me along on a trip, I’ll provide transportation, cover all the costs and in return offer my services up here in Victoria B.C. I’ll fly fish for basically anything that swims and if steelheading doesn’t look good, then I’m up for anything.

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I’ll be in Portland (weather permitting) from the 15-19 of Jan (This weekend) and I’m looking for info on a spot to try for a days fishing. Preferably if someone is interested in taking me along on a trip, I’ll provide transportation, cover all the costs and in return offer my services up here in Victoria B.C. I’ll fly fish for basically anything that swims and if steelheading doesn’t look good, then I’m up for anything.

As of today, Tues 1/13, everything is blown out of shape. Forecast doesn’t look good…but who knows?

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Hi– On my way to Schroon Lake/Schroon River in upstate NY from Erie, PA.  Although I’ve lived there on and off for over 35 years, I am new to flyfishing.  Will trout still be active in the river? Should I head for the dam near Chestertown? Or, is the season finished?  Thanks for any assistance! P.S. Time won’t permit a side trip to the Ausable…although I plan on it in the spring. Regards, Brian

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Hi– On my way to Schroon Lake/Schroon River in upstate NY from Erie, PA. Although I’ve lived there on and off for over 35 years, I am new to flyfishing.  Will trout still be active in the river? Should I head for the dam near Chestertown? Or, is the season finished?  Thanks for any assistance! P.S. Time won’t permit a side trip to the Ausable…although I plan on it in the spring. Regards, Brian

   Although the Schroon is heavily stocked by both the State and Warren County it is a put and take river with virtually no holdover. Come back in the spring after mid may and the water levels will be down to where you can wade the river.

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How is the fishing on the Hiwasse in eastern Tennessee this time of year. Is it worth the drive from Columbus, Ohio, over the Presdient’s Day weekend?  I tried calling the Adams Fly Shop in Relience, but all I’ve gotten is an answering machine.  Would it be worthwhile to bring my driftboat?  Any information would be appreciated. Ed Orazen

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How is the fishing on the Hiwasse in eastern Tennessee this time of year. Is it worth the drive from Columbus, Ohio, over the Presdient’s Day weekend?  I tried calling the Adams Fly Shop in Relience, but all I’ve gotten is an answering machine.  Would it be worthwhile to bring my driftboat?  Any information would be appreciated. Ed Orazen

Hi Ed – It can be good, but check with the folks at the Hiwassee Angler, 423 338-6263. — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides page http://www.olfart.com

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Dear Casters .                         We are now taking bookings for the summer of 96 , for our Atlantic Salmon Fly Fishing School that is conducted at my three star lodge on the world famous Miramichi River , guests arive on sunday and depart the following sunday , the course is indepth with instruction covering all aspects of Atlantic Salmon Fly Fishing the true way , you will learn the true Miramichi WAY . The course starts with a tour of the Miramichi , the Atlantic Salmon mesume and hatchery , instruction in rod setups , casting , playing , landing , and care of fish , also river conduct , ecology , biology , life cycle , fishing the black and bright Salmon ,  and fly tying of the most deadly of the secret Miramichi flies , what works where and why , the art is opened up in this course . The course is $ 1050.00 american for all meals , three star graded accomidations , instruction and equipment supplied , no suprises or hidden costs . Book early by contacting . Thomas MacLean Miramichi Four Season Outfitters Inc RR # 2 Miramichi City Box 705 E1V-3L9 New Brunswick Canada   1-506-622-0089

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Casters .                        We are now taking bookings for the summer of 96 , for our Atlantic Salmon Fly Fishing School that is conducted at my three star lodge on the world famous Miramichi River , guests arive on sunday and depart the following sunday , the course is indepth with instruction covering all aspects of Atlantic Salmon Fly Fishing the true way , you will learn the true Miramichi WAY . The course starts with a tour of the Miramichi , the Atlantic Salmon mesume and hatchery , instruction in rod setups , casting , playing , landing , and care of fish , also river conduct , ecology , biology , life cycle , fishing the black and bright Salmon ,  and fly tying of the most deadly of the secret Miramichi flies , what works where and why , the art is opened up in this course . The course is $ 1050.00 american for all meals , three star graded accomidations , instruction and equipment supplied , no suprises or hidden costs . Book early by contacting . Thomas MacLean Miramichi Four Season Outfitters Inc RR # 2 Miramichi City Box 705 E1V-3L9 New Brunswick Canada   1-506-622-0089

You’re asking for a flaming!!! Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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        My Fly Fishing Club,  The Kisatchie Fly Fishers,  is considering affiliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.  I was appointed to find out what is required and how much it costs.  I need some information on who to call and talk to or who write to.         Our club is only a year old and in this part of Louisiana, Alexandria,  dead in the middle of the State,  fly fishing is not the traditional favorite that it is in many other parts of the country. I would appreciate any advice anyone in the group has to offer concerning affiliation.         Thanks in advance                 Tom

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Hi Tom, I’m glad to see you are planning on affliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.  They are a good group.  For information on affiliation, etc. call the National Office at 1-800-618-0808. Good Luck Al Beatty (former FFF President) BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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   My Fly Fishing Club,  The Kisatchie Fly Fishers,  is considering affiliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.

The FFF is a good organization to join to help support your fly fishing fix. They have all kinds of publications and ideas to help build membership in your club, hence their club. It costs $25 for a club to join for up to 25 members. Any members more than $25 are an extra $1 per member.

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What are the flyfishing opertunities in the Galveston area? I will be there the week of May 15 and am considering trying salt water flyfishing if there are possibilities. Is there a local shop that can provide information?

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As a Damn Yankee (and proud of it) who spends some time around Houston this is a question that interests me as well.  For f’fishing, try Orvis in Houston, Galleria area.  They’re helpful and friendly.  I’ve also been to Cut Rate Tackle, and they definitely cater to the salt water fisherman, though not so much w/flies.  Christmas Bay is supposed to be good, but I have the feeling that this is not particularly new information.

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| What are the flyfishing opertunities in the Galveston area? I will be there | the week of May 15 and am considering trying salt water flyfishing if there | are possibilities. Is there a local shop that can provide information? In Houston, there are some shops that could help you out. Orvis Houston 783-2111 Angler’s Edge 993-9981 Either one should be able to help you with information or advice on getting a guide. — Ray

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