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 Why bright orange ?   Hunters ?

Obviously, you don’t read InStyle magazine.  Get with the program. Mu

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Every time I see the title of this thread I shudder, and I think, no . . . there’s no way I can comment at all on someone’s butt leak. I’m still shuddering. Memphis Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been through several pairs of various breathable waders too damn quickly …. they all developed leaks in the rear I’m sure this is because I fish from a kickboat a lot and the kicking while sitting on a fairly hard surface stresses the membrane under my rear and causes it to fail before I rush out to spend the big bucks on Sims …. will they stand up to this use?  I’ve heard enough " the very best" reports about them to believe they are the best and tough in "normal" use … but I’m not sure my lard ass kickin round the pond is normal Anyone used Sim guides for a LONG time with LOTS of kickboat time …. or should I just stick with my old neoprenes for that use? —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I fish around 60  days a year, and that will be going up ( assuming enough snow to make water to fish in) to around 100, as I am now semi-retired I am getting Sims, waiting for the G3’s.  I will use them for all wade fishing, where my kickboat isn’t a factor. But the real reason for my post was to see if the "seat crunching, material sliding on itself under pressure" deal of kickboat use ( both kicking and rowing cause this sliding)  is simply beyond "breathable" technology. If breathables can be made to last, they are ideal.  Since most of your body is out of the water, rowing or kicking, breathable is literally "cool" but when you stop to wade fish, leaks are far too cool. FWIW, I just this minute called Simms and the nice lady told me that "guide input" was a a reason the G3’s will have a greatly tougher "rear" and, implied that they have had problems with the membrane breaking down under lots of "kickboat" use ( rowing a drift boat would be the same, btw ) and felt the new design would solve the problem …but "Nothing is infallible." I have good 5mm neoprenes, but roast in them, maybe I’ll try some 3mm, or a second pair of cheaper breathables for when I drift rivers in the watermaster or fish still waters using it Then again, maybe I’ll just use the Simms and end up with a sad tale, or great product testimonial —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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hehe …sorry most of the outdoorsmen I know aren’t that sensitive. I’ll be more careful in the future …. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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  If you have to hike long distances to get to your spots and you wear   your waders, you’ll eventually blow out the seams or the neoprene in the   feet. More and more, I find myself packing my waders and a pair of   lightweight boots until I get there.   That’s where most of my wear comes from. You can go through lots of felts that way. I also wear out the insides of the legs of my waders. Like you pointed out to me, I sound like a kid with new corduroys when I walk in my waders. I think I’ll continue to wear them out this way because I don’t like to fish with a pack on my back and I’m either too absent minded or get too preoccupied when fishing to remember picking up a pack when I put it down. Willi

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FWIW, I just this minute called Simms and the nice lady told me that "guide input" was a a reason the G3’s will have a greatly tougher "rear" and, implied that they have had problems with the membrane breaking down under lots of "kickboat" use ( rowing a drift boat would be the same, btw ) and felt the new design would solve the problem …but "Nothing is infallible."

Blaze orange neoprene butt pads ought to be integral to every pair of waders – that is if you don;t mind looking like an orangutan in heat. Mu

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This one’s easy, never eat olestra while flyfishing. Your pal, — TBone

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Why bright orange ?   Hunters ? Not a bad idea. A camper got shot on the AT here in Georgia the other day. I was surprised to learn that it is even legal to shoot *from* the trail. — Charlie…

Much of the Appalachian Trail is on private property and exists there only by the grace of individual land owners.  Where this is the case, I suspect that by and large it’s use is not governed by any official regulation beyond that which applies to private land use in general.  Where one may or may not discharge a firearm legally probably varies somewhat from state to state, but here in Wisconsin hiking trails on private property are not subject to the same restrictions as say, improved roads, where one may not shoot from the road surface itself or anywhere within a certain distance from it.  I’m guessing that most states are similar in this regard. Wolfgang

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Much of the Appalachian Trail is on private property and exists there only by the grace of individual land owners.  Where this is the case, I suspect that by and large it’s use is not governed by any official regulation beyond that which applies to private land use in general.  Where one may or may not discharge a firearm legally probably varies somewhat from state to state, but here in Wisconsin hiking trails on private property are not subject to the same restrictions as say, improved roads, where one may not shoot from the road surface itself or anywhere within a certain distance from it.  I’m guessing that most states are similar in this regard.

I’m sure you are correct. I said I was surprised, not shocked, simply because I hadn’t thought it through. I often fish close to the trail and had a misguided sense that I was safer there than away from it. It makes perfect sense, though, that hunters would also use the trail for access, etc. — Charlie…

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 I’ve heard gunshots the last two times I was out fishing.  Made me wish that I had put some orange reflective tape  on the back of my wading jacket, as I’ve been meaning  to, for the past year

Same thing happened here last week. I forgot it was the first day of firearms season for deer. Heard three gunshots during while on the stream, and also wished I had a blaze orange hat or jacket. To top it off, this was the first time in about three years that I had fished this particular stretch of water, and I hoped the fishing had improved. It hadn’t. Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Same thing happened here last week. I forgot it was the first day of firearms season for deer. Heard three gunshots during while on the stream, and also wished I had a blaze orange hat or jacket. To top it off, this was the first time in about three years that I had fished this particular stretch of water, and I hoped the fishing had improved. It hadn’t. Bob  The stretch of water Scott and I were on, according  to various and sundry Highly Reliable Witnesses we  ran into, was great fishing two weeks before, one week  before, the previous Tuesday, the previous Thursday  and hell, even the day before, and … you know the  punchline.  Remove "XYZ" from email address

But we did hear gunshots!!! — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply

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I read this and thought "Who nicked the duck?"

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Hi All, Another story: I had a custom is this fall who was going to Montana and wanted new waders for the trip. He said he had bought 3 different under $200 brands of imported waders (which I won’t mention) over the past few years and had problems with them all because he was a very active stream fly fisher. He said some of the ffing guides he has met and some of his friends bragged about the Simms Guide model Gore-Tex waders so he was going to finally move up to them ($330US for 2003). If you actually fish a lot and are young and/or strong,  you will good through most entry level products. Many ffers don’t actually get out much, so the less expensive gear works for them. Actually, you can now buy a "made in USA" breathable wader from Simms that is leak tested at their plant in Montana for $149US. This should out sell most all the sub-$200 imports. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been through several pairs of various breathable waders too damn quickly …. they all developed leaks in the rear I’m sure this is because I fish from a kickboat a lot and the kicking while sitting on a fairly hard surface stresses the membrane under my rear and causes it to fail before I rush out to spend the big bucks on Sims …. will they stand up to this use?  I’ve heard enough " the very best" reports about them to believe they are the best and tough in "normal" use … but I’m not sure my lard ass kickin round the pond is normal Anyone used Sim guides for a LONG time with LOTS of kickboat time …. or should I just stick with my old neoprenes for that use? —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, Another story: I had a custom is this fall who was going to Montana and wanted new waders for the trip. He said he had bought 3 different under $200 brands of imported waders (which I won’t mention) over the past few years and had problems with them all because he was a very active stream fly fisher. He said some of the ffing guides he has met and some of his friends bragged about the Simms Guide model Gore-Tex waders so he was going to finally move up to them ($330US for 2003). If you actually fish a lot and are young and/or strong,  you will good through most entry level products. Many ffers don’t actually get out much, so the less expensive gear works for them.

I find that what’s hell on waders isn’t wading — it’s hiking through lots of prickly stuff, like wild roses and blackberries, and falling on your ass (no "butt leaks" yet, however). I look for pinhole leaks about every half dozen times I fish on my homewaters. If you have to hike long distances to get to your spots and you wear your waders, you’ll eventually blow out the seams or the neoprene in the feet. More and more, I find myself packing my waders and a pair of lightweight boots until I get there.

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I’ve been through several pairs of various breathable waders too damn quickly …. they all developed leaks in the rear I’m sure this is because I fish from a kickboat a lot and the kicking while sitting on a fairly hard surface stresses the membrane under my rear and causes it to fail before I rush out to spend the big bucks on Sims …. will they stand up to this use?  I’ve heard enough " the very best" reports about them to believe they are the best and tough in "normal" use … but I’m not sure my lard ass kickin round the pond is normal Anyone used Sim guides for a LONG time with LOTS of kickboat time …. or should I just stick with my old neoprenes for that use? —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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<snip Anyone used Sim guides for a LONG time with LOTS of kickboat time …. or should I just stick with my old neoprenes for that use?

I have a pair of Simms Guide Weights that I’ve used a fair amount in my float tube without any leak problems in the butt area.  However, because I thought that that might be a problem for any breathables, I always wear an old worn out pair of neoprenes from which I’ve cut off most of the legs and left only enough of the top portion for the suspenders (looks like a pair of lederhosen) over the breathables. Bob Weinberger

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I’ve never had a "butt leak" (an unfelicitous phrase, if ever I’ve heard one) in my Simm’s breathable waders, and I do quite a bit of float tubing. But then, I only get a about two years of use from a pair. I think my hard use trashes them before "butt leaks" ever have a chance to develop.

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When you sit are they tight? You might be putting udo stress on the fabric.. john

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been through several pairs of various breathable waders too damn quickly …. they all developed leaks in the rear I’m sure this is because I fish from a kickboat a lot and the kicking while sitting on a fairly hard surface stresses the membrane under my rear and causes it to fail before I rush out to spend the big bucks on Sims …. will they stand up to this use?  I’ve heard enough " the very best" reports about them to believe they are the best and tough in "normal" use … but I’m not sure my lard ass kickin round the pond is normal Anyone used Sim guides for a LONG time with LOTS of kickboat time …. or should I just stick with my old neoprenes for that use? —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, popped the spigot out, cleaned off the spigot and blank, epoxied the inside of the blank well, shoved the spigot in with a dowel, cleaned the epoxy off with alcohol, and then glued the reel seat back together again.  Elapsed time – a little over ten minutes. The East Branch rods are some of the prettiest out their, very good quality components, tubes, etc.  They’re superb fishing instruments as anyone who has one can attest.  But EB fell down on simple aspects of execution – both the spigot and the reel seat had very little glue on them – the reel seat came apart after only about 30 seconds in hot water.  By comparison, it took about ten minutes to cook the reel seat off my Cabelas Stowaway. The wraps at the end the ferrules are very sparse and probably contribute to much of the breakage.  Sometimes questionable guide placement contributed to the risk of breakage. It’s a pity that such nice rods were let down by such littler things. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, <SNIP Peter Visit The Streamer Page at

http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html I thought you would   Slapdash repairs are just disasters waiting to happen, and you do not seem the type who would risk that on decent fishing gear. If the rod is as nice as you say, I would certainly rewrap the ferrule ends etc, and carry out any other modifications required.  Sparse ferrule wrappings are indeed the cause of much breakage, loose ferrules also. It does not take much time really, and is invariably worth the trouble. If the spigot ( the part inside the rod butt section) is on the short side, I would give the blank here a generous wrapping as well. This sometimes ruins the symmetry of appearance, but saves a lot of buggering about usually. One may often compensate to a degree by lengthening other wraps to suit. Sparse, and overtight whippings are often a problem. If the whipping compresses or otherwise deforms the blank, then it is also a disaster waiting to happen. Somebody mentioned that this manufacturer used "Elmers Glue", I am not familiar with this, but having experimented quite a lot with various things, I would never use anything other than the various epoxy grades for rod repairs nowadays. Even though I only do repairs for friends etc, and not for money, they would doubtless not be too enthusiastic about failures caused by shoddy work. (Perhaps I should mess up a few repairs? it would reduce my workload ! I have always maintained that the main difference between relatively cheap, and relatively expensive rods, is the cosmetics, and the care taken in production.  If you wrap and otherwise build up even a cheap blank with good hardware etc, then you invariably have a reliable and long lived fishing tool,.  Nice if the action etc suits you as well of course ! Rather a shame that a manufacturer should skimp on such relatively simple things, and thus fold. Especially one who otherwise seemed OK. TL MC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, <SNIP Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html I thought you would   Slapdash repairs are just disasters waiting to happen, and you do not seem the type who would risk that on decent fishing gear. [snip] Rather a shame that a manufacturer should skimp on such relatively simple things, and thus fold. Especially one who otherwise seemed OK. TL MC

Greg was just being sarcastic with the Elmer’s glue comment – he too is an EB customer with a story or two to tell.  The wraps and stripper guide positions on mine seem OK but Greg had a great EB rod snap due to a combination of stripper guide placement and insufficient wraps. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Somebody mentioned that this manufacturer used "Elmers Glue", I am not familiar with this

Elmer’s Glue is a simple water soluble white glue.  It’s manufactured by Borden’s which is a big dairy company.  Their company logos are Elsie the Cow (on dairy products) and Elmer the Bull (on glue products).  Elmer’s primary ingredient used to be casein, milk protein.  It’s a decent glue on porous materials as long as it stays dry. One of the cool things you can do with it is coat your skin (it dries clear) and freak people out by peeling it off in big sheets.  Probably every American school kid has done that. –Stan OBROFF – Elmer’s is a terrible fly floatant.

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<SNIP –Stan OBROFF – Elmer’s is a terrible fly floatant.

Maybe it is a good sinkant?  :) Thanks for the info Stan.  Sometimes quite a problem explaining just exactly what proprietary products are, makes some things very difficult to understand properly. TL MC

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Peter why not contact East Branch??? I talked to the guy at the Marlboro flyfishing show, and he seems a good guy. would probably be a minimal charge or none for such a repair. and you’ll have someone doing it with all the right tools. if they mess it up, you’ll probably get a new rod.   TD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just had the butt section spigot come unglued on one rod (wants to slip back into the butt) and the re-gluing will be an adventure.  I’m thinking of getting some R/C model airplane CA glue (extremely watery) that will penetrate the full length of the spigot.  I doubt there’s enough space for me to get any appreciable amounts of epoxy in there. Anybody ever try using CA glue on a rod repair. (ya Greg, it’s East Branch – the 4 wt.) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html If you can do so, it is better to remove the spigot altogether. It is usually possible to push it straight down the butt section, and after removing the butt cap, simply push it out. Using a fine round file or similar, and being careful not to remove any rod material, clean out the tip of the butt section, of any glue remnants etc. Clean the spigot as well.   Then, using a piece of dowel, long thin steel rod,  or similar, apply epoxy to the inside of the butt tip, and simply push the spigot back into place using a long thin steel rod or similar.  This works well, and is a permanent and reliable repair. CA glue is not reliable for repairs on flexing parts. The bond invariably cracks, usually quite quickly. If you wish to try it, warming up slow drying epoxy makes it extremely "runny", at least as runny as CA glue. It also decreases the setting time a great deal, so be careful.  Just pour this carefully around the spigot.  I have only ever tried this once, and it worked OK. ( I was unable to remove the spigot entirely ). One last possibility is to cover the spigot itself in epoxy, and carefully rotate and push this back down into the rod. Hold the tip of the spigot with a pair of pliers or similar, and be extremely careful not to let go of it. When the epoxy is distributed, just pull the spigot back into place, and remove the excess epoxy, using alcohol or similar. TL MC

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As a builder of r/c airplane models: in fact there is very little flex involved in most airframes (nor is flex desired). We try to build out flex as it detracts from precise control. Beyond that, the glue joints in an airframe are almost always stronger than the materials being joined (given that usually those materials are wood). And for joints that really need to be strong (firewalls, gear mounting blocks,  wing joins, etc)  we definitely use epoxy – and the slower the set, the better… /daytripper (check out my Super Chipmunk at http://www.ultranet.com/~haigt/rcstuff/chipmunk.html ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you can do so, it is better to remove the spigot altogether. It is usually possible to push it straight down the butt section, and after removing the butt cap, simply push it out. Using a fine round file or similar, and being careful not to remove any rod material, clean out the tip of the butt section, of any glue remnants etc. Clean the spigot as well.   Then, using a piece of dowel, long thin steel rod,  or similar, apply epoxy to the inside of the butt tip, and simply push the spigot back into place using a long thin steel rod or similar.  This works well, and is a permanent and reliable repair. This had been my initial instincts but being fundamentally lazy, I was looking for an easy alternative. CA glue is not reliable for repairs on flexing parts. The bond invariably cracks, usually quite quickly. There’s a lot of flexing in R/C model airplanes yet I’ve never heard of glue joint failure with CA glues.  Perhaps these glues are a bit different?  The butt on this rod is quite hefty (10 1/2 footer) – there isn’t much flex in it. If you wish to try it, warming up slow drying epoxy makes it extremely "runny", at least as runny as CA glue. It also decreases the setting time a great deal, so be careful.  Just pour this carefully around the spigot.  I have only ever tried this once, and it worked OK. ( I was unable to remove the spigot entirely ). One last possibility is to cover the spigot itself in epoxy, and carefully rotate and push this back down into the rod. Hold the tip of the spigot with a pair of pliers or similar, and be extremely careful not to let go of it. When the epoxy is distributed, just pull the spigot back into place, and remove the excess epoxy, using alcohol or similar. TL MC Thanks Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a builder of r/c airplane models: in fact there is very little flex involved in most airframes (nor is flex desired). We try to build out flex as it detracts from precise control. Beyond that, the glue joints in an airframe are almost always stronger than the materials being joined (given that usually those materials are wood). And for joints that really need to be strong (firewalls, gear mounting blocks,  wing joins, etc)  we definitely use epoxy – and the slower the set, the better… /daytripper (check out my Super Chipmunk at http://www.ultranet.com/~haigt/rcstuff/chipmunk.html )

You in that racket too.  I’ve been building the things off and on since the sixties.  You’re right of course, we don’t want flex but you can be sure that the airframe and wings are really "working" in gusty conditions or when pulling G (or when hitting the ground.)  I have an old bird built in ‘77 with white glue that has held together well, except for the control hinges.  I have a couple of new ones done with CA and so far, so good –  mind you, I haven’t had them out in the last couple of years.

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. There’s a lot of flexing in R/C model airplanes yet I’ve never heard of glue joint failure with CA glues.  Perhaps these glues are a bit different?  The butt on this rod is quite hefty (10 1/2 footer) – there isn’t much flex in it.

My neighbour builds radio controlled model aeroplanes, and he also uses CA glue for some things. I just had a word with him, and he tells me that the stuff he uses also cracks easily apparently.  Most of the flex is in the airframe itself, the actual joints are rigid.  He says that even a mild "crash" will crack CA joints. He also says that this is actually often desirable, as the cracking of the glue joints apparently acts as a sort of shock absorber, and the actual glued parts are not damaged, and may simply be glued again. I don

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Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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Suggest you buy a little book called "Curtis Creek Manifesto" as a start. Its in an adult comic type format. Don’t be put off by this. Its a serious and great intro to the sport. Ideal for the self teacher. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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Library (books and videos)  Tackle shops (networking, local chapters of trout unlimited and other fly tying/fishing groups) reading this group and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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I live in Tucson – what can I say – it’s beautiful today, just like every other day.

Annis-MM – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!  Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.  My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson

We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; ) Paulette~ —  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; )

 I am turning green w/envy….  Since I don’t have a heated garage, and since it can get below zero fast this time of year, smart money is to winterize it in late October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson  

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We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; )  I am turning green w/envy….

heehee I know ; )  Since I don’t have a heated garage, and since it can get below zero fast this time of year, smart money is to winterize it in late October….

Well the harbour hasn’t froze up since 77,and we are a tough old bunch down here. It’s a lot warmer here, although the cold damp ocean air can be bone chilling sometimes. Paulette~ "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson

–  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really…

OK, after reading your post, I have decided I hate you… *just kidding* But, your did inspire me and my wife to take some time out and go for a wonderful walk around the woods by my house. All of the leaves are pretty much gone, but it was still great, just to get out and enjoy the outdoors, even if just for a few hours. — "Life is too short, for everyone to see things my way" Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really… OK, after reading your post, I have decided I hate you…

THat’s okay you can’t get evryone to like you huh,but you can get them to respect you. Although most MEN like me ; ) woman too… *just kidding* But, your did inspire me and my wife to take some time out and go for a wonderful walk around the woods by my house.

Good I like to "inspire" All of the leaves are pretty much gone,

Oh boy haven’t raked much yet,as the leaves are still on the trees,but the place is LEAF LANE,heehee I love shuffling through the leaves,and making a pile and falling down in them. Having a small bonfire and making "s’mores". Anyone like them like I do?  but it was still great, just to get out and enjoy the outdoors, even if just for a few hours.

Yes, I am an outdoor girl, especially a water one. I’m a pisces : ) Hubby is even more the outdoorsman. His nickname is "Rugged Bear" ; ) — "Life is too short, for everyone to see things my way"

I always have to have things my way. I’m like Papa Hemingway when asked " Why does it always have to be your way?" He replied "Because I like it that way" : ) Me too… Paulette~ Before you buy.

–  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.

Lovely here as well, temps in the +20s, no wind, and it hasn’t quit snowing since yesterday (maybe 6 inches or so since yesterday a.m.) and expected to snow for another day or two. Lots of fluff, very pretty, and I’m taking the dogs out for a snowbath later. (best way to get a dog clean during winter, toss favorite toy into a powdery snowdrift 2-3 times… we don’t have wet snow, so it gets the coat clean) My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October….

Ours went into the garage back in late Sept. Will be there until about Apr/May I imagine. Cat in Alaska

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!

 Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.  My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson  

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!

    Well, Maryland (at least the Baltimore area), is having *warm* weather… a little rain last night, a misty moisty morning,  with the fog burned off to blue skies and sunshine this afternoon. We’re heading out to the lake, so the dogs can run and maybe swim, in a little bit… it’s actually warm enough for me to ditch my shoes today, hooray! (Point of note: that’s anywhere above about 40 degrees, for me. <g) So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

   Sounds good….  you’re giving me ideas for dinner! Though I can’t compete with fresh-caught fish… <G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far…

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Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really…

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Well, it’s been a couple weeks since the idea lit up, caught fire briefly and fizzled, so I thought I’d try posting a reminder. For you newbies: I am compiling a directory of ROFF members, initially to allow ROFF members travelling to another state to maybe look up a fellow member to share some local knowledge, some time on a stream or a cold beer together.   To participate, send me your screen name and state.   Other info, such as you real name, home city, age, home waters, occupation, etc. is optional (most so far have shared most of these).   You can surrender as little anonymity as you are comfortable with.   None of this info will be shared by me outside this group or with commercial concerns. For the "experienced" ROFFians: Awright goddammit, where the hell are ya?   A lousy 50 names in three weeks? What about the rest of ya?   You know who you are!   Seriously though, I am hoping some of the discussions about file size, databases or other esoteric computer shit didn’t put anybody off (responses dropped like a stone shortly after that).   I’d like to see this grow to a potentially useful tool for everybody.   If you post regularly or even occasionally, send me your info (see above). Joe F.

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Ok Joe, Didn’t see the last thread, musta been fishn’ or drinkn’ or sleeping as far as I know? Tim Apple Rockford IL Good smallmouth and some trout(top secret on the trout thing, about 5 people in the world know where they are.) Also finally figured out how to get walleye on the fly, good fishing for em’ to. I’d give you my address but I’m going in the Coast Guard soon and it wouldn’t do ya much good unless you cruise by in the next 2 months or so. see ya Tim Apple — "Bamboo is Better"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, it’s been a couple weeks since the idea lit up, caught fire briefly and fizzled, so I thought I’d try posting a reminder. For you newbies: I am compiling a directory of ROFF members, initially to allow ROFF members travelling to another state to maybe look up a fellow member to share some local knowledge, some time on a stream or a cold beer together.   To participate, send me your screen name and state.   Other info, such as you real name, home city, age, home waters, occupation, etc. is optional (most so far have shared most of these).   You can surrender as little anonymity as you are comfortable with.   None of this info will be shared by me outside this group or with commercial concerns. For the "experienced" ROFFians: Awright goddammit, where the hell are ya?   A lousy 50 names in three weeks? What about the rest of ya?   You know who you are!   Seriously though, I am hoping some of the discussions about file size, databases or other esoteric computer shit didn’t put anybody off (responses dropped like a stone shortly after that).   I’d like to see this grow to a potentially useful tool for everybody.   If you post regularly or even occasionally, send me your info (see above). Joe F.

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I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock. It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!" Thanks for any help I may receive Mike

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock.    It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel    really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!"    Thanks for any help I may receive    Mike Sorry about the last one, you will find this one more useful: The Screamin’ Reel Alarm Clock         http://www.los-gatos.ca.us/los_gatos/businesses/upstream/clock.html -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock. It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!" Thanks for any help I may receive Mike

Hi Mike, There is a brass lamp with a fly reel on it. You turn the handle and it tightens a chain and turns on the lamp. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Hi: Wasn’t able to make my Belize trip this spring and I’m affraid of the variable weather conditions in the Fall, so I’m thinking about Christmas Is.  I like Belize because of the opportunity to catch various species and the Belize River Lodge guides fish you to death, but I’ve never wade fished and they do say one should go to CI before they die.  What kind of weather conditions can one expect between September and November??? Thanks, Adam

It fishes well 12 months of the year and is 100% wading for bones. The Bahamas, Ascension Bay in Mexico,  Turneffe Flats in Belize and Los Roques in Venezuela are also great bonefish destinations. Belize River Lodge has some of the best tarpon fishing in Central America and also has 3 big boats to take you down south for permit. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Hi: Wasn’t able to make my Belize trip this spring and I’m affraid of the variable weather conditions in the Fall, so I’m thinking about Christmas Is.  I like Belize because of the opportunity to catch various species and the Belize River Lodge guides fish you to death, but I’ve never wade fished and they do say one should go to CI before they die.  What kind of weather conditions can one expect between September and November??? Thanks, Adam

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A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

Since 1990, two bodies have been found on the Roaring Fork, foul play invovled in both incidents. So, when I’m fishing for whities in one of the Fork’s deeeper holes and smell something rotting near the heap of driftwood at the back of the pool, I just call it an unfortunate beaver and head for the next hole. Mitch

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A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

damned, I wish you would stick to the important issues or point. George Gehrke/Mr. Gink

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Fereira) writes: attempted to gut and butcher her catch at streamside, a clear violation of urban fishing etiquette.  Let this be an example to all you potential poachers, jack-lighters and trespass fishermen in NYC.  There is zero tolerance for straying off the straight and narrow path here. It was yet another example of mutilation due to the result of C&R.

I’ve been told it’s bad form to gut and butcher prior to a release.             Jim

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Was she using a wet or a dry, and what pattern? Lolo Mt. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

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A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

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A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

The body was determined to be a female and so the angler was immediately arrested as she was not in possession of a valid doe permit and she attempted to gut and butcher her catch at streamside, a clear violation of urban fishing etiquette.  Let this be an example to all you potential poachers, jack-lighters and trespass fishermen in NYC.  There is zero tolerance for straying off the straight and narrow path here. Stan

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: A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post :                                     Harlem angler snags body :    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed : body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. : near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police : said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. : It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. *(sigh)*  It has become an almost regular thing here in Ohio for a fisherman to discover a body. :-O Jon Porter

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What kind of fly was she using? mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A Monday, Sept. 30, 1996 article from The New York Post                                     Harlem angler snags body    A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River snagged a badly decomposed body last night.  The woman was fishing at the water’s edge at E. 135th St. near Metro-North railroad bridge in Manhattan at about 7:15 p.m.  Police said the body was so badly decomposed that its sex couldn’t be determined. It was taken to the medical examiner’s office for an autopsy. Tight Lines Bob Hill The body was determined to be a female and so the angler was immediately arrested as she was not in possession of a valid doe permit and she attempted to gut and butcher her catch at streamside, a clear violation of urban fishing etiquette.  Let this be an example to all you potential poachers, jack-lighters and trespass fishermen in NYC.  There is zero tolerance for straying off the straight and narrow path here.

It was yet another example of mutilation due to the result of C&R. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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   A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River…

Pshew…and I complain about fishing with the crowds on the pan… Perspective, man. TimW

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   A homeless woman fishing in the Harlem River …

God this image is haunting me. This woman is an angler, my friends.  Better than the lot of us lashed together.  Let’s get together and buy her a bus ticket to Ennis or something, Jesus. TimW

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: This woman is an angler, my friends.  Better than the lot of us : lashed together.  Let’s get together and buy her a bus ticket to : Ennis or something, Jesus. Vail.  I hear she can catch big ones right in the middle of town. — Rick "still punchin’" Fletcher T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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The fish are way easy to catch, and there’s a helluva lot more in the game than in the river.  I delude myself into thinking I’m honing my skills for my next visit to the McCloud.

Ditto.  I had more hookups while playing the game for 3 minutes than I’ve had on my previous 3-4 days on the McCloud.  Well, for $50, you don’t want to be skunked! Frank Holminski’s (sp?) response was that this game reflects the seasonal hatches and conditions you’ll encounter on this great river.  So, the buy the game and you shouldn’t have any zero-fish days — although I heard nothing about a money-back guarantee! I must admit, at the San Mateo show last weekend, whenever someone got a hookup, and you’d hear the ol’ reel scream through the PC speakers, that attracted more bystanders, as well as getting your adrenaline going!   For us Mac users, Frank says a Mac version may be developed later if they can get funding…my God, is not even flyfishing exempt from "vaporware"? Bill Uyeki

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Yeah, got sucked into it myself.  In fact, my buddy bought me a copy.  I don’t find it a problem to run it outside of windows.  Alt+M to lose the music.  Can’t wait for new fishing holes, and maybe some different tunes. Chatted the whole thing up with Frank H. while I was there.  Cool game. The fish are way easy to catch, and there’s a helluva lot more in the game than in the river.  I delude myself into thinking I’m honing my skills for my next visit to the McCloud.

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Many people think the Fly Fishing the McCloud River Game is CD ROM when they see it demonstrated. It is not but to get the great scans and animation that truly give the feel for dead driting an Adams or nymphing with a PT,  the game’s program uses approx 550 K of conventional memory while running.  This requires a memory mgt solution such as memmaker. The program is only 2.7 meg.  The game was the show stopper at the San Mateo ISO this past week, just ask Lefty DH

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Does anyone have any experience or comments about  this product?

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p because you need a config.sys with virtually nothing else configured for the program to run.  Once going, is challenging and fun.  Without sound, is hard to judge when fish are running.  Good luck.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom    Oh, I liked it!   I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen. Match the hatch!   Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel.

Or maybe he’s a bait fisherman and might have to go bait fishing first. I suppose he could always go find some poodle hackle and tie up a decent imitation. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts. I guess I have to enter a bunch of irealevent lines in order…

You can work around the line count "feature" by changing the "" character in the first line of the quoted text to any other character. Do a global exchange of the first "" character.  In vi the sequence :1,$s/^/|/  will do the trick. — John Fereira

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keywords: striped bass, Muskies So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom    Oh, I liked it!   I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen. Match the hatch!   Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts.

I think the greatest muskie lure going (besides a crappie fisherman’s minnow) is a small radio contrlled yellow duckling that actually paddles with its feet.  Ever see the real thing disappear in a humongous eruption? WOW! 1106 Rayburn Ct.                   K9ALD     AFA3WG Mahomet, IL 61853                  Outdoor writer (Fishing) 217-586-4958                       Skamania Reign Supreme! Manager, Network systems, OIM, University of Illinois

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom

    Oh, I liked it!    I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen.  Match the hatch!    Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts. I guess I have to enter a bunch of irealevent lines in order to beat the stupid breavity suppressor. Does anyone know how to get past it any other way? this is crazy. Well is this enough lines to do the tricK? I hope so.

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Great giant muskie story deleted… Thomas, Have you considered trolling live-bait rigs with St.Bernards hooked though the nose?  :)  :}  ;   :]   (General public; please notice the many smiley faces, put down those damn flame throwers).                    -Pat.

  Pat,   You wouldn’t believe what’s gone through my mind with this fish!!  I think  I’ve come up with the solution…..I call it a Yipper Harness!!  It’ll take most critters up to about 25-30 lbs. Tom

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I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish. Jon — Jonathan Rodin             FTP Software, Inc.            voice: (508) 659-6261                            North Andover, MA  01845

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I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish.

According to Riverview Bait & Tackle; Bass River, MA; schoolies are showing on the south shore of Cape Cod. They’re probably chasing herring (alewives). Now, when will the first blues arrive?! Bruce Smith

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| I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern | Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the | stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any | striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish. | | According to Riverview Bait & Tackle; Bass River, MA; schoolies are showing | on the south shore of Cape Cod. They’re probably chasing herring (alewives). | Now, when will the first blues arrive?! | | Bruce Smith | They have not shown up in NC in any numbers yet, unfortunately you may have to wait a while.                                 -Pat. p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.         (even better if it is mostly true :}   ).

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There are indeed stripers on the southside of Cape Cod, Buzzard’s Bay, Rhode Island and some Connecticut Rivers. I checked out a herring run yesterday and indeed, it was filled with fish: hence the bass are right behind them, up inside the estuaries and marshes, feeding at the mouth of the runs. No luck personally after four outings, but have seen fish taken at dawn on high, outgoing tides where the bays empty into the Sound. Bluefish? May 15 for southern Cape Cod. DCC — Forbes Magazine                                 dchurbuck:MCIMAIL

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  (Text Deleted)                            -Pat. p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.        (even better if it is mostly true :}   ).

 So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???   I moved to WI. in Jan. of ‘87.  That spring, the DNR were taking a population survey of various fish species in Lake Wissota, just on the northeast end of Chippewa Falls. They had been out shocking most of the day, and were gathering and tagging quite a bunch of Muskie and walleye.(Notice how the word "Muskie" is the only fish name that commands enough respect of me that I capitalize it)   Late in the afternoon of that spring day,  a huge Muskie, stunned by the field of the shocking machine floats to the surface.  The three DNR people in the shocking boat don’t believe what they see.  They hurriedly try to slip a six foot cradle net under the fish.  The fish is so long its head and tail are both extending beyond the ends of the net.  Before they could hoist this fish to boatside for measuring, it decides it doesn’t want to be in the net!!!! So….it leaves….before any measurements are taken.  The DNR people say it’s a new world record!!!  Right here in Lake Wissota….right here under my nose.   My Muskie fishing partner is a local law enforcement officer, and works in the County Court House in an office near the County DNR fish biologist. He gets the scoop on this fish….it’s true…..Moby Muskihoonge lives right here under my nose.   Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now…when my Muskie fishing partner told me this, I just about got torqued off…thinking he was playing with my emotions, but the following Sunday in church, I was approached by a congregation member who also happens to know I’m pretty interested in Muskie fishing and who also happens to be a Vet.  "Ya should’ve seen what I saw the other day ", he said.  Well, the blood is boiling.     Now it’s summer of ‘92.  I have a friend from work with me fishing Muskies on one of the bars in Lake Wissota.  He’s boated a 34" northern pike, and I’ve had two follows…mid to high 30" fish.  My normal fishing partner is at some school in Madison, so that’s why I have a different person along.  I’m throwing my favorite home-made bucktail, a 10 incher, black over orange with a #8 florescent orange willow leaf blade.  A long cast……and not 15 feet from right in front of me…there she is!!!  Moby Muskihoonge…..does the old porpoise trick… and when she goes back down, her tail is waving back and forth in the breeze. I estimate a 15 – 20" spread from point to point on her tail, and she’s  danged near half as long as my 17 ft. bass boat, for sure!!  Four or five lazy waves of the tail, and she’s gone,  leaving a boil in the water about 5 ft. in diameter.   I’m scrambling to get my bucktail back after the cast, and get the biggest bait in my box on my leader……a Super 10 magnum Suick.   Its too late.. a dozen casts of that bait yields nothing but sore arms!! My friend says he saw something out of the corner of his eye, and he saw the boil in the water, but thats all, he won’t confirm the sighting……dogmeat!!   Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom *  Thomas L. Cooley           *     Whatever I say is only my opinion, and     * *  The Muskie Maniac          *     most people at CRI would say it’s not      * *  Chippewa Falls, WI.        *     MUSKIES- Other fish are just BAIT!!        *

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|   (Text Deleted) | |                              -Pat. | p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.   |      (even better if it is mostly true :}   ). | | | | |  So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh??? Great giant muskie story deleted… Thomas, Have you considered trolling live-bait rigs with St.Bernards hooked though the nose?  :)  :}  ;   :]   (General public; please notice the many smiley faces, put down those damn flame throwers).                         -Pat.

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