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OK, this is old, but it looks like it’s expired, so I’m going to post it here again.  40 of the 47 Page-A-Day calendars are ready for download. They never could get the 4 puzzle calendars [Bridge, Mensa, Scrabble, Chess] and the 2 web calendars [Fly Fishing, Audubon Birds] to work, so those 6 have been scrapped.  The 365 NEW WORDS A DAY works, but has a weird little problem with the pronunciation font.  They’re working on it, but I’m not going to post another update when that’s fixed. So, that leaves 40 good working calendars, and if you really don’t care about the pronunciation font, you can count it as 41.  Here’s where you can find them: http://www.page-a-day.com/downloads.html If you’re looking for a ZODIAC sign calendar, and #freeasd’ers have occasionally heard me read from them, you can find them at [for example] http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hari.exe http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/htau.exe http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hcan.exe I think you can see the pattern.  For a MAC version, replace the .exe with .hqx and download that instead. Each download calendar is about 2 Meg in size, unless it’s a PHOTO calendar, which is about 3 Meg.  Their servers are a little flaky and you might need to download more than once. Also, the Photo calendars only go to the end of March, but you can download the quarterly updates, and this is where you’ll find those. http://www.page-a-day.com/cars/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/cats/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/dogs/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/gard/download.html <– Gardens http://www.page-a-day.com/golf/download.html <– Golf Holes I’ve had no trouble running several calendars at once. — Salt of the Earth

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OK, this is old, but it looks like it’s expired, so I’m going to post it here again.  40 of the 47 Page-A-Day calendars are ready for download. They never could get the 4 puzzle calendars [Bridge, Mensa, Scrabble, Chess] and the 2 web calendars [Fly Fishing, Audubon Birds] to work, so those 6 have been scrapped.  The 365 NEW WORDS A DAY works, but has a weird little problem with the pronunciation font.  They’re working on it, but I’m not going to post another update when that’s fixed. So, that leaves 40 good working calendars, and if you really don’t care about the pronunciation font, you can count it as 41.  Here’s where you can find them: http://www.page-a-day.com/downloads.html If you’re looking for a ZODIAC sign calendar, and #freeasd’ers have occasionally heard me read from them, you can find them at [for example] http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hari.exe <– Aries http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/htau.exe <– Taurus http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hcan.exe <– Cancer I think you can see the pattern.  For a MAC version, replace the .exe with .hqx and download that instead. Each download calendar is about 2 Meg in size, unless it’s a PHOTO calendar, which is about 3 Meg.  Their servers are a little flaky and you might need to download more than once. Also, the Photo calendars only go to the end of March, but you can download the quarterly updates, and this is where you’ll find those. http://www.page-a-day.com/cars/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/cats/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/dogs/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/gard/download.html <– Gardens http://www.page-a-day.com/golf/download.html <– Golf Holes I’ve had no trouble running several calendars at once. — Salt of the Earth

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I need some help finding information on spin fishing in Wyoming (Yellowstone area).  All the books and sites that I visit are for fly fishing.  If anyone has some information on this subject I would appreciate it.

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Don’t be intimidated.  Tiny 1/8 to 1/16 ounce spoons in brass, silver, and copper will take all trout in all rivers (and all but the biggest lakes) in Wyoming.   Check the regulations, however.  Sometimes, when it says "…single hook artificial only…" you think it means fly fishing only.  If tiey mean fly only, they will say so. Try to use bait anywhere, and you will probably be shot, burried, and your car pushed into a canyon. Fishing in the park isn’t much good, and the crowds are horrible.  Try the Shoshone River just west of Cody, or the Green, north of Pinedale.  Few tourists fish either place. good luck oz

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I lived in West Yellowstone( west enterance to Yellowstone. There are several rivers west of the park that are great for spin fishing. Also there is a lake naned Quake lake that has BIG trout. Henry’s lake is also great.  There are lots of beaver ponds. the choises are there.

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View Wyoming’s new lure for trout at http://www.fishcatchwy.qpg.com

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Does anyone know of some good sites to find some cool graphics(not too big) for my web page I’m designing? Thanks! Go UT Lady Vols!!!

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Does anyone know of some good sites to find some cool graphics(not too big) for my web page I’m designing? Thanks! Go UT Lady Vols!!!

Try this page, should keep you busy for awile: http://www.fishnet.net/~gini/cool/ Max

http:/www.inetarena.com/~mwi "…there are only two things in life worth getting excited about – fly fishing is the other one…"

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NEXT TIME TRY A DIFFERENT COLOR IF THAT DON`T WORK TRY A DIFFERENT BAIT , LIKE A ZOOM FLUKE OR A SPOOK .

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Try different sizes and colors. On sunny days use bright colors and on cloudy days use dark colors. When you first cast it out, let it sit for a good while before you twitch it. Then only twitch once or twice and let it sit for a while again. Try working it back like that. Notice for other hatches as well. Your best bet might be a dragon fly imitation instead.   Any advice on what I might have been doing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -wrong or any tips on how to better induce a strike?

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Make sure you reel in slack and set the hook hard when you get a strike.  Also, you need to tune your eyes on the popper and popper only, otherwise you might miss a quiet strike.  Good fishin. Mike

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I was fishing this weekend at Greers Ferry, Ark.  I tried many different lures.  I finally began using a popper.  I saw several fish come up to the top to check it out and follow it for a few feet and then disappear.  I worked it slowly for a foot or two and then would let it rest, waiting for a strike, then I would "pop" it a bit to stir up the water and so on.  I have never used one before, but it seemed to get their attention.  Any advice on what I might have been doing wrong or any tips on how to better induce a strike? Thanks.

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I was fishing this weekend at Greers Ferry, Ark.  I tried many different lures.  I finally began using a popper.  I saw several fish come up to the top to check it out and follow it for a few feet and then disappear.  I worked it slowly for a foot or two and then would let it rest, waiting for a strike, then I would "pop" it a bit to stir up the water and so on.  I have never used one before, but it seemed to get their attention.  Any advice on what I might have been doing wrong or any tips on how to better induce a strike? Thanks.

Hello, I like poppers in the am and the pm for bass. Spring and fall is top water time. I don’t move them much. I just twitch them a little. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I see you have some responses from folks talking about chest waders, not hip waders.  The hip boots are not so snug as neoprene and they just go up far enough to make you think you can wade in a shallow stream, then after a few steps about knee deep you step six inches deeper and suddenly have a water parachute strapped onto each leg. Damn right these things can kill you if you’re in heavy water when this

happens. You’re right, Mark. In my lexicon, "hip waders" end at a belt around the waist, while "hip boots" (which I gather is the actual topic) end around mid-thigh, and certainly can’t be "belted"… The above perspective may be due to being 6′5" tall: they don’t make "hip boots" that come to *my* hips, that’s for sure ;^) The only time I wear "hip boots" is when launching or reloading my boat – I’d wet-wade before I’d ever use a pair of those for fishing… Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.               Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus                      Maynard, Massachusetts < < !!NOTE: Remove the "XX" from my address to respond by email!!  < <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be                     shared by my employer, etc…

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I see you have some responses from folks talking about chest waders, not The only time I wear "hip boots" is when launching or reloading my boat – I’d wet-wade before I’d ever use a pair of those for fishing… Cheers! /dave

Hi Dave, I’ve been watching this thread and for the most part agree about hip boats if you’re talking bigger water. They ARE no fun to swim in (voice of experience), but you’re not typically in chest deep water if you do go down when wearing hip boots.  Unless you oopsy and find a deep hole because you weren’t probing with your wading staff, or get washed into deep water you can usually get stood up again without too much problem.   But! When fishing very fast and rough water where I’m not quite crazy enough to wade over knee deep, or fishing small and/or well known streams, I much prefer "hip boots".  I can roll them down to get some air to vital parts, and they are much less restrictive (to me).  Scratching is easier too. I guess I’m a wuss, ’cause if I’m wading water that I know has sections over my head, or I don’t know well, I get real nervous about wading in very deep…. War story……. The last time I went down with hip boots the water was only about 30" deep.  I drug a hand to keep my head upstream, was washed into a deeper hole, stood up, and walked out.  That walk might have been a little rushed, since it was November and the water was a bit cool. I wasn’t wearing a pfd since I know the river well and have fished it for thirty years.  It was no big drama, except the walk back to the truck was miserable. If it had been a strange stream, I’d have had a pfd on and floated to the next shallow stretch, or swam to shore.  In my chest waders. Steve

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FYI: I once read somewhere that Lee Wulff jumped off a bridge with waders, head first no less, to prove a point about waders filling with water. I can’t remember if they were hip or chest waders. Maybe someone else has come across this story.

No big deal for Lee…the man walked on water… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

Michael, I saw a film of Lee Wulff diving off of a bridge with waders and no belt then swimming to shore in order to prove that waders filled with water won’t pull you under. Water weighs nothing in water. I’ve been toying with the idea of trying this out in a swimming pool sometime. My concern with neoprene waders is that they might float your legs too high in the water causing you to fight to keep your head high. Ron

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   About 5 years ago, a visiting fisherman ventured too far out off of Oregon Beach in Cotuit (Cape Cod) and disappeared. If I remember correctly, they found what was left of him a few weeks later. The accident was attributed to his lack of knowledge of the area, which is riddled with deep water holes, and the fact that he could not get out of his waders. It happens…

Well, as apparently "what was left of him" couldn’t answer whether the waders had anything to do with his disappearance, the waders may not actually have been a factor. We lose many swimmers (not wearing waders, obviously) from undertow along the New England coast than that. I’ve swamped in my waders in heavy water (eg: Rapid River, and the Andy below the Gage House pool) and never felt at additional risk from the waders. Wear a friggin’ belt – common sense at work, imho… Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.               Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus                      Maynard, Massachusetts < < !!NOTE: Remove the "XX" from my address to respond by email!!  < <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be                     shared by my employer, etc…

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Is this discussion about panic or real danger ? If you fall in with hippers and panic…yer dead.   If you fall in with hippers and stay cool…yer alive. That’s what they tell you anyway…I dunno…. Once at a party a well intentioned but rather inebriated good friend pushed me into the deep end of the private pool.  I had on big hiking boots and levis. (Quite the pool-party-animal that I am….).  I honestly got really scared when I tried to swim but could not, sinking like a rock. On the bottom, I pushed off the bottom enough that I made it to the edge.  I’d have to think that most cases in rivers, streams and lakes, you could essentially do the same thing.  A big dropoff though ?  A man in Boulder reservoir died in hippers just this way a few years back.  Hippers in big water I think is very, very dangerous.  Not from filling with water, but because the boots themselves are more dense. TimW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack Michael, I saw a film of Lee Wulff diving off of a bridge with waders and no belt then swimming to shore in order to prove that waders filled with water won’t pull you under. Water weighs nothing in water. I’ve been toying with the idea of trying this out in a swimming pool sometime. My concern with neoprene waders is that they might float your legs too high in the water causing you to fight to keep your head high. Ron

– TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Hmm, hip waders are dangerous, and significantly more so than chest waders. The Lee Wulff stunt was done with neoprene chest waders. Neoprene is lighter than water and will help you float. The problems with hip waders are that they fill very quickly and they open up “parachute style”. More often than not they are made of rubber, which does not float. I have been dragged away by a river both in chest neoprene waders and in rubber hip waders, and the hip waders accident was much much more scary, I thought I would have to slip off them. Hip waders often have a buckle on the side, so you can strap them to your belt. The fist thing I would do when I bougth a new pair of hip waders was to cut the damn thing off, so that, in case of emergency, it would be much easier to slip off them. This was suggested to my by the most experienced fisherman I know and by the owner of the shop I used to go to when I was in Italy. I have heard of enough accidents with hip waders back in Europe to consider them dangerous in large bodies of water.  In small bodies of water, though, they are definitely preferable, as they are much easier to get in and out of, IMHO. -Vittorio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack Michael, I saw a film of Lee Wulff diving off of a bridge with waders and no belt then swimming to shore in order to prove that waders filled with water won’t pull you under. Water weighs nothing in water. I’ve been toying with the idea of trying this out in a swimming pool sometime. My concern with neoprene waders is that they might float your legs too high in the water causing you to fight to keep your head high. Ron

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I see you have some responses from folks talking about chest waders, not hip waders.  The hip boots are not so snug as neoprene and they just go up far enough to make you think you can wade in a shallow stream, then after a few steps about knee deep you step six inches deeper and suddenly have a water parachute strapped onto each leg. Damn right these things can kill you if you’re in heavy water when this happens. I don’t think there is a practical fishing use for these, maybe for landing fish when you are shorefishing but not for wading.  Even waist height waders make a big difference where it counts most because you can belt them. If you use hip waders you should get some lacy garters to go with them.   MarK Vinsel Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

Michael,     About 5 years ago, a visiting fisherman ventured too far out off of Oregon Beach in Cotuit (Cape Cod) and disappeared. If I remember correctly, they found what was left of him a few weeks later. The accident was attributed to his lack of knowledge of the area, which is riddled with deep water holes, and the fact that he could not get out of his waders. It happens… — Tight lines and sharp hooks, Capt. Mark Poirier

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

Hi Michael I’ve not personally seen a death from hip waders but have over the years helped fly fishers who "went too far" while using hip waders on three occasions. One on the Madison River would have ended in a drown had a friend and I not been handy to pull the guy out of the water. With the full waders I don’t know if I could have pulled him out alone — the current and the full waders made for a very heavy load. I personally think hip waders are and accident waiting to happen but I’m sure there are many who would not agree. — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products On line catalog – tips & tricks at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

FYI: I once read somewhere that Lee Wulff jumped off a bridge with waders, head first no less, to prove a point about waders filling with water. I can’t remember if they were hip or chest waders. Maybe someone else has come across this story. B.

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Hello folks, My name is Michael Drapack. I am a journalist for a consumer show on Canadian television. I know this may sound a little strange, but the medical examiner in the province of British Columbia has recently recorded three deaths caused by hip waders filling with water and drowning the person wearing them. Has anybody out there heard of a Thank you and sorry for the intrusion Michael Drapack

This is a regular, tho I’m glad to say, infrequent occurence during the fishing season in Scotland. It is wholly unnecessary because many anglers panic when they "go over the top" and do not know how to react (although sometimes drowning results from a secondary factor like heart attact from the shock as happened on the Spey last year). If you do fall in the procedure is to get on your back, keep your feet well up and pointing downstream (your feet will hit the rocks rather than your head) and paddle with your hands towards the shallow water. The late Hugh Falkus of Cumbria and flyfisher extrordinaire made an excellent video of this when he was about, I think, 70 years old, demonstrating in person. The demonstration was also shown on one the TV angling programmes over here a few years back. Hope this helps – Ian — Ian McCowen – Polwarth Manse, Greenlaw, Berwickshire TD10 6YR SCOTLAND (fine old books on Shooting, Fishing, Natural History bought & sold)

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Help!. I am going to Portland for 4 days and am wondering if there is any reasonable fly fishing within an hour of town. We won’t be able to go much farther than that. Also, does anyone know what a short-term fishing license (1 to 4 days) costs? I appreciate any help that is offered. I’d like to try some new spots since this opportunity has arisen. Cheers. Jon

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A daily fishing license here in Oregon is $6.75.  There is a note that a salmon,steelhead,sturgeon, or halibut tag is not required for a day license.  The license is available at any Fred Myers stores in the Portland area.  This is the biggest chain of stores in the area that carry licenses although there are others I..e. G.I Joes sporting goods.  If your going to be in the area before the end of October I would recommend the Deschutes River.  Its about a two hour drive east of the Portland area.  I know this is a little farther than you mentioned but I think it is well worth the drive.  From everything I’ve read recently it is one of the best years for steelhead on the river.  I generally fish for trout near Mecca Flats on the Deschutes, if your interested let me know and I’ll email exact directions to you. Another good river for trout is the Clackamas.  It is basically south east of the Portland area and I know alot of people hit it near Estacada.  I’ve only been there once myself and did not have much luck, however had a friend fish it about 2-3 days ago with dries and sounds like he fairly good, lots of bites, smaller trout.  The Deschutes closes for trout oct 31 and steelhead on Dec 31.  If after Oct 31 I would also recommend the north fork of the Nehalem river. Its a coastal river about 1 and half hours west of Portland.  I heard that last year they had a great steelhead run start beginning of Nov. I didn’t get to hit it till January  and it was still full of 12 pounders.  Hopefully this has been some help, fairly new myself to flyfishing.  One last suggestion is to stop at Kaufmann’s Streamborn in Troutdale, sw of Portland, address in local phone book.  If you go there and buy some flies you might get some better info about local fishing than I can provide.  Good Luck. Cory

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SNIP Estacada.  I’ve only been there once myself and did not have much luck, however had a friend fish it about 2-3 days ago with dries and sounds like he fairly good, lots of bites, smaller trout.  The Deschutes closes for trout oct 31 and steelhead on Dec 31.  

SNIP I believe that the Deschutes is open from the locked gate to the mouth for trout year around.  This includes the very popular area above and below Maupin. Jim

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I can’t believe you people keep falling for this stuff.  You need to just ignore the post altogether. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh say can you see, by the prides early light, that you are a fool, for buying the Ford.  And the engine breaks down,  you feel like a clown, Thats right you un-intelligent flag wavers!  Why is it that you all seem so hung up on BUY AMERICAN!   Why is it that innocent women get harrased by union truck drivers for driving a foriegn vehicle?  Would you like your wife,  daughter or mom to be insulted by some greasy moron who says  

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Want to fish with a combination wet and dry on my tippet. Problem is I’m not sure whether to attach my wet or dry as the first (dropper) fly or should I attach the wet to the dry fly hook bend? Although I’ll find this out, do the flies jumble up together when you false cast? Thanks, sjf muddler

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muddler) writes: Want to fish with a combination wet and dry on my tippet. Problem is I’m not sure whether to attach my wet or dry as the first (dropper) fly or should I attach the wet to the dry fly hook bend? Although I’ll find this out, do the flies jumble up together when you false cast? Thanks, sjf muddler Wet to the bend of the dry, and yes they will "jumble." Try to keep

the false casts to a minimum.  Try a quartering cast upstream, and fully allowing the drift to play out all the way down stream, and follow the drift with your rod tip.  When the current applies the tension, and the rod is pointed straight down stream, turn your rod hand to point the reel upstream, raise the rod tip slowly loading the rod and fire the cast back up to your starting point. No back cast, no false cast.  Lengthen of shorten the cast by feeding more, or retrieving line from the down stream drag before the recast good luck jg

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muddler) writes: Want to fish with a combination wet and dry on my tippet. Problem is I’m not sure whether to attach my wet or dry as the first (dropper) fly or should I attach the wet to the dry fly hook bend? Although I’ll find this out, do the flies jumble up together when you false cast? Thanks, sjf muddler

The best way I’ve found to fish a dry/wet combo is to use a dry fly on the end of your leadeder, and then tie a piece of tippet material to the bend of the dry fly’s hook and attach a wet fly or nymph to the end of the second piece.  This way you can fish both flies and you won’t get as many tangles when you’re casting.  If you put the nymph or wet on first and then attach your dry fly the dry fly won’t float well and the wet won’t sink well.  So it’s dryfly first and wet/nymph tied onto that. Other methods include tying on an extra piece of tippet and only trimming one of the tags. Then tie the dry fly onto the tag and the wet/nymph to the point.  This will tangle like crazy unless the tag is kept short (around 6") and still will tangle far more than the first method I described.                                          Hope this helps,                                                Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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  I have used both methods Mr Gracia describes (wet tied to dry’s bend vs dry on a dropper) and agree that the former rig tangles less often.  On the other hand, the only fish that I have hooked on the dry were taken with the dropper rig.  I have been experimenting with multiple-fly rigs for about a year, and the solution to the tangling problem seems to lie in the casting technique — softer, more open loops, a slightly sidearm delivery, and few false casts.  I have found that one of my old glass rods works better than my graphites for this.  Perhaps some reader from the UK, where multiple fly rigs are commonly used, could enlighten us more on this method.  – Roger

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If anyone cares (please!), the editor/publisher of California Fly Fisher has finally figured out how to get his modem working without sending the rest of his hardware into a nervous breakdown. Current email addresses are And hey, fans of Seth Norman’s writing (as seen in such august pubs as Fly Rod & Reel, Gray’s Sporting Journal, Fied & Stream and – yow! – Cal FF) might like to know that, as of Jan 21, he’s the proud papa of baby Sofia. Ta ta for now, Richard Anderson

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If anyone cares (please!), the editor/publisher of California Fly Fisher has finally figured out how to get his modem working without sending the rest of his hardware into a nervous breakdown. Current email addresses are

Cool.  California Fly Fisher gets on to the Internet.  I’ll have you know that I have been promoting your magazine in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly since it’s debut issue and have posted the subscrition address a number of times.  Keep up the good work. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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Richard, great to have you online.  I never get to bed early the day your magazine arrives, because I’ll read it way into the night.  Please publish your e-mail addresses in your magazine also, I’m sure it will increase the letters to the editor. Keep up the great work!  We should have plenty of water next season!  Bill

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Jeff: The cost of a fly-in to Northern Ontario lakes(walley/pike) typically runs $400-500 Canadian for a week.  That includes your fly-in from the local airport and accomodations(fairly rustic). Most remote lakes in N. Ontario are loaded with average  2 lb walleye, plus some trophy pike and walleye. I don’t have any recommendations handy, but 1-800-ONTARIO is a good start.  Let me know if you are really interested and I’ll see what I can do. remo

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        Since I was little, I have dreamed of taking a fly-in trip to one of the remote lakes in Canada.  I think people will basically drop you off with a pontoon plane at a lake for a week or so, and you fish for big pike/ walleye/muskie.  I think I can camp- I don’t need a cabin.           Does anyone have any experience with this type of thing?  How much does it cost?  Any recommendations?  Are guides used?  I’m going to call 1-800-ONTARIO, but after Scott Maitland’s fiasco fishing vacation, I think I’d like to talk with someone who has had a positive experience with an outfitter.         Thanks much. -Jeff

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Smith) says:        Since I was little, I have dreamed of taking a fly-in trip to one of the remote lakes in Canada.  I think people will basically drop you off with a pontoon plane at a lake for a week or so, and you fish for big pike/ walleye/muskie.  I think I can camp- I don’t need a cabin.        Does anyone have any experience with this type of thing?  How much does it cost?  Any recommendations?  Are guides used?  I’m going to call 1-800-ONTARIO, but after Scott Maitland’s fiasco fishing vacation, I think I’d like to talk with someone who has had a positive experience with an outfitter.

 Jeff,     Thanks for the citation, though I can think of better ways to be cited. I don’t distrust the brochures and materials we received…I just learned to be much more wary of what I am reading (and listening to) and also that you are safer if you get a first-hand recommendation from someone you know you can trust.  It’s the classic "buyer beware" with the lodge owner looking out for his business. We have since contacted many more places in Ontario and..this time we looked at the much fancier resorts.  I think this past trip we managed to outwit ourselves into a place that was nothing that we were looking for..meaning that the place s was a dive, the fishing stunk, the boats leaked, etc. Next trip we are going to spend the extra $$.  Again…a STRONG personal recommendation can mean a lot but you also have to be able to trust the person.  For example, a co-worker of my brother in law swears that the place we stayed is great…the fishing wonderful, and he was ready to go back there again.  The catch:  he used to go 10 years ago, hasn’t been back lately, and maybe he’s the type who only wants some sort of roof over his head without concern for anything else?  When we told him how horrible our trip was he seemed shocked.  Either the place really went down hill during those ten years or he has a very different idea of a good vacation. Let me know what you find…also, does anyone out there know of a contact point in the Ministry of Tourism in Ontario?  We wanted to voice our concerns with the place we stayed but the only contact I was given (by the 1-800-ontario  number) was the Better Business Bureau.  Thanks,                                           Scott

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