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Hi Doug, Thanks for the comment. I kinda like the style. It’s different! ;) For power on mine, I’m going with the merCruiser 6cyl. diesel. That will give me 225 HP at each prop. I’m also going to use the Bravo 3 outdrive.
Hey Mark, help me out here. Why are you choosing the Bravo 3 outdrive for a twin engine application? What advantage is there as compared to any of the less expensive alternatives? Who builds that engine? It sounds like a great engine for that application. Regards, Tom Brown
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*** big snip *** Shameless plug for MaxWeld boats … see thier site at: http://www.maxweldboats.com/ You’re getting a really cool boat…I love its looks. — Harry Krause
Thanks Harry. I’m not too sure about the looks. I kinda like the looks of a boat with a well appointed fly bridge better. However, the boat *should* be really functional and they *are* extremely stable fishing platforms and that means a lot more to me than looks. (besides the fact that they are "hell-built" for stout!) Still having trouble deciding on colors and a name for her. The wife and I have decided (with a little coaching from the builder) to paint the cabin the same grey as the pictures show and we are going to go with a black back deck. I thought something lighter, but Andy says that the black deck is a lot easier to maintain. I personally think that when the sun shines on it the back deck is going to get awful warm! Whatever we decide … No White in the work area!! Makes my tired old eyes hurt! ;) -mArk- (who finds naming a boat harder than naming kids! ;))
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Doug, Thanks for the comment. I kinda like the style. It’s different! ;) For power on mine, I’m going with the merCruiser 6cyl. diesel. That will give me 225 HP at each prop. I’m also going to use the Bravo 3 outdrive. Andy will set them up with almost any type of power that you want. The one he just finished building (basicly the same boat I’m getting) had twin Cummins with jet pumps type outdrives. I don’t know if he has build one that is a true inboard yet, but he has been talking about it. It’s just a matter of what the customer wants. He’s *very* flexible. I looked at several different engines before I picked the merCruisers. I had originally picked the Volvo 6cyl. diesel, but Andy told me that there had been quite a few warranty issues (new engines that needed work) and that Volvo had not been real good about honoring the warranty. He said that having your new boat have to go in right away for engine work kind of soured the whole boat buying process and suggested that I go with the merCruiser for dependability sake. Andy worked out a deal with the merCruiser dealer to get the engines at the same price as those from Volvo. They usually cost about $2000 an issue more. The Cummins engines are like $10k more. Kinda outa my price range! 
-mArk- (not speaking for the company) Shameless plug for MaxWeld boats … see thier site at: http://www.maxweldboats.com/
You’re getting a really cool boat…I love its looks. — Harry Krause I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family. -GW Bush
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Wow-Cooool Cat ! What’s the power ? Do they offer inboards in a catamaran ? Doug Miller
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk-
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Hi Doug, Thanks for the comment. I kinda like the style. It’s different! ;) For power on mine, I’m going with the merCruiser 6cyl. diesel. That will give me 225 HP at each prop. I’m also going to use the Bravo 3 outdrive. Hey Mark, help me out here. Why are you choosing the Bravo 3 outdrive for a twin engine application? What advantage is there as compared to any of the less expensive alternatives? Who builds that engine? It sounds like a great engine for that application. Regards, Tom Brown
Hi Tom. It’s another one of those hell-built-for-stout things that I’m so hung up on. I want equiptment that won’t fail (or at least has less chance of failure) when I’m a hundred miles from shore. There is also the fact that the twin props give you a little more umph. Besides, Andy catagoricly refuses to use "cheap" stuff on his boats. He only wants to use the best he can get in any given class. The Bravo 3 is much stouter than any of the Alpha drives and actually has quite a few design improvements over the Bravo 1 & 2 outdrives. I believe Andy told me that the engine blocks actually come from Isuzu (sp?). All the bolt on stuff is Mercury specific. I just hope these engines are as bullet proof (idiot proof?? ;)) as I’ve been led to believe. I spent a lot of time researching both the merCruiser and the Volvo diesel offerings and they seemed pretty close. Part of the decision was based on the builders recommondation (and I trust Andy a lot … known him for a lot of years!). -mArk- (who beleives that down fishing time means lost revenue)
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Hi Doug, Thanks for the comment. I kinda like the style. It’s different! ;) For power on mine, I’m going with the merCruiser 6cyl. diesel. That will give me 225 HP at each prop. I’m also going to use the Bravo 3 outdrive. Andy will set them up with almost any type of power that you want. The one he just finished building (basicly the same boat I’m getting) had twin Cummins with jet pumps type outdrives. I don’t know if he has build one that is a true inboard yet, but he has been talking about it. It’s just a matter of what the customer wants. He’s *very* flexible. I looked at several different engines before I picked the merCruisers. I had originally picked the Volvo 6cyl. diesel, but Andy told me that there had been quite a few warranty issues (new engines that needed work) and that Volvo had not been real good about honoring the warranty. He said that having your new boat have to go in right away for engine work kind of soured the whole boat buying process and suggested that I go with the merCruiser for dependability sake. Andy worked out a deal with the merCruiser dealer to get the engines at the same price as those from Volvo. They usually cost about $2000 an issue more. The Cummins engines are like $10k more. Kinda outa my price range! -mArk- (not speaking for the company) Shameless plug for MaxWeld boats … see thier site at: http://www.maxweldboats.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow-Cooool Cat ! What’s the power ? Do they offer inboards in a catamaran ? Doug Miller Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk-
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk- Sounds woodlike. What is she? — Harry Krause Naw … we’ve talked about this one a little before … it’s an aluminum Catamaran style hull with twin merCrusier 6cyl. diesels. Pictures at: http://www.maxweldboats.com The picture on the first page is a 27′ version of what my boat is going to be. You looked at this one once before and told me that you’d feel safe about going out to sea in a boat like that … -mArk-
You are correct. When you started discussing bulkheads and frame, I immediately thought of wood. — Harry Krause The students at Yale came from all different backgrounds and all parts of the country. Within months, I knew many of them. -GW Bush
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk- Sounds woodlike. What is she? — Harry Krause
Naw … we’ve talked about this one a little before … it’s an aluminum Catamaran style hull with twin merCrusier 6cyl. diesels. Pictures at: http://www.maxweldboats.com The picture on the first page is a 27′ version of what my boat is going to be. You looked at this one once before and told me that you’d feel safe about going out to sea in a boat like that … -mArk-
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk-
Sounds woodlike. What is she? — Harry Krause This case has had full analyzation and has been looked at a lot. I understand the emotionality of death penalty cases. Dubya Dense
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Went down to the coast last Friday (3/23) so that I could stop in and see what progress has been made on the new boat. Took Andy and crew 2 weeks to lay the bulkheads and stringers, but the boat is finally right-side up and starting to take shape!! They started putting the sides of the hulls on so it actually is starting to look like a boat! I’m getting really excited as things start to take shape! Whilst I was looking at what they had done during the week Andy told me that he didn’t think the boat had a deck length of 28′10" as we originally agreed too (he has stated several times that all sizes are estimates as each hull is layed by hand and everything is custom). He put the tape on it and came up with the new length of 29′9". He looked at me and smiled and say something to the affect of "I didn’t think you’d mind the extra (almost) foot of length". ;) Too Cool! He’s also decided to change the "swim platfrom" from 36" to 42". He was saying that the extra 6" doesn’t seem like much, but it really makes a difference when you are out on it. WAY Cool! ;) Still haven’t picked a color scheme or a name, but we are working on it. I was going to use some of the commercial gear off’n "Fish Assassin" (my 22′ dory) but Andy says "nope". He does not like the galvanized davits for the down-riggers and is going to build me some custom made Stainless davits. He is also going to build me some custom aluminum outriggers … length to be determined, but they look like they want to be about 28′ with forstays built into them. WhooWhee!! Can’t hardly contain myself waiting for the magical day when I get to take delivery (about June 16th)!! ;) ;) -mArk-
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P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Well, they say hope springs eternal. Just curious; when you go to the reference library do you ask them to keep all the red books covered? Wolfgang who can help….honestly….but declines, thank you.
Wolfie, you didn’t think she was REALLY going to skate by with that, did you? Get Ready!!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Joe, I have a GREAT idea!! Come on down and pick up Lenny Young on the way. We’ll head over to the Vally and fish our way up north toward Maryland. At the end of the day we’ll lay over in Berkley Springs WVa. Just south of town on 522 (north bound side of the road) is Bambi’s Massage. The three of us will pile up in there, drink some Scotch, smoke some cigars, and have ol’e Bambi give us a nice relaxing rub- down. In the meantime, we’ll give Monica a $10 gift certificate to Potomac Mills Outlet Mall, it’s the least we can do since she is footing the bill for our "fishing" trip! We’ll be back Sunday evening, fished out and totally relaxed! Whadda’ya say guys!!
Sounds pretty good, but you may have tipped our hand by mentioning Bambi’s. No doubt you just happened to notice that place on the way to church. 
Why Monica, we’d NEVER take Lenny there, honest. (Do you think she bought that?) Joe F.
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Dang Wayne, I might try that place myself. (Now where can I leave the kids? Say, how may bedrooms ya got? <g) Joe F.
Joe, we’ll drop your kids at my place. We’ll stock the fridge with pizza and Coke. We have cable and a VCR. The gutters need cleaning, the garden needs weeding, and the grass needs mowing. Meadow Lane Lodge would be a great weekend getaway. You bring the Special Edition Wild Turkey and I’ll bring the Macallan. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Joe, I have a GREAT idea!! Come on down and pick up Lenny Young on the way. We’ll head over to the Vally and fish our way up north toward Maryland. At the end of the day we’ll lay over in Berkley Springs WVa. Just south of town on 522 (north bound side of the road) is Bambi’s Massage. The three of us will pile up in there, drink some Scotch, smoke some cigars, and have ol’e Bambi give us a nice relaxing rub- down. In the meantime, we’ll give Monica a $10 gift certificate to Potomac Mills Outlet Mall, it’s the least we can do since she is footing the bill for our "fishing" trip! We’ll be back Sunday evening, fished out and totally relaxed! Whadda’ya say guys!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant.
Actually, I thought that was precisely the question: "I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions?" I hadn’t meant to whiz in anyone’s Wheaties; just trying to be helpful. Sorry if I offended. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue.
I understand your point; and perhaps a weekend teaching his kids to flyfish would be the ideal fly fishing weekend getaway for him. It would be a fine weekend activity for me as well, just not a "getaway". PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can.
It’s set to wrap outgoing messages at 76 characters. Why? Joe F.
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In article Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some
suggestions. Hey! Watch your language! There are no gentlemen here! It’s virtually impossible to ask for suggestions here without an argument starting. Don’t take it personally – it’s entertainment for some of us. Looks like you have several suggestions to consider in any case * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant. Actually, I thought that was precisely the question: "I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions?" I hadn’t meant to whiz in anyone’s Wheaties; just trying to be helpful. Sorry if I offended.
No offense taken, and I hope the same, but I guess it hit me strangely for some reason. I still believe if a kid is old enough to show genuine interest, they are old enough to start to learn, but JMO. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue. I understand your point; and perhaps a weekend teaching his kids to flyfish would be the ideal fly fishing weekend getaway for him. It would be a fine weekend activity for me as well, just not a "getaway". PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can. It’s set to wrap outgoing messages at 76 characters. Why?
Well, it originally had to do with early terminals (and tins can and string…hey, you old farts, chime on in…<G), but now most people use things that can easily handle at least 80 characters, and I’ve found it seems to be the optimum setting as I never get that annoying "wrap" of a word or two. I’ve seen varying recommendations, so YMMV. Joe F.
TC, R
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Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting.
Well, they say hope springs eternal. Just curious; when you go to the reference library do you ask them to keep all the red books covered? Wolfgang who can help….honestly….but declines, thank you.
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When I "get away" I enjoy taking my family. I don’t get away from them. I get away from my job, the city, and all of the stuff I have to do every day. When I get away I love to take my family because I love my family. Jeff, is it hard to think that some men want to be with their family? — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders" quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike. message My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
Sounds like you have a good man. It also sounds as though you are a loving wife. It’s nice to see a family like this. :-) — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders" quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.
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Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike.
Why be sorry? That’s why there is chocolate and vanilla. It sounded like Wayne Hart provided an excellent suggestion, and I’m sure your situation is not unique, so I’m sure you’ll find a happy blend if you decide (or forced…<G) to go. For what it’s worth, fly fishing is generally done in some rather nice locations, and maybe you can tag along. Also, for what it’s worth, if this is his first time with a fly rod, it is likely that neither of you will have a lot of fish to deal with…<G. Further, my SO hated fishing until she tried it, so if you’ve never tried it, you never know…of course, I’ve never tried a fertilizer malt, so I don’t know if I’d like ‘em. However, I do know I’m not going to find out. As to the thread, I doubt asking for the time here would get a simple answer, what with time zones, philosophy, analog v. digital, automatic, self-winding, and quartz, etc. In other words, don’t sweat it, and in fact, it is what makes ROFF, well, ROFF. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need.
I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else. Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Secondly, if your husband will be learning this for the first time, his stress level will be greatly reduced if he isn’t worrying about where else he should be or what else he should be doing or where are the kids. Just cut him loose for the weekend and don’t expect to see him until Sunday night. He’ll love it. Trust me. Alternatively (and this is a good idea too), stash the kids, go with him, and learn fly fishing yourself. You may love it and you may be a natural; there’s nothing inherently macho about it. It’s graceful, it’s beautiful, it’s relaxing. Giving your husband a good fishing "buddy" would be a great gift. Sorry, but I don’t see the kids fitting into this at their age. If he really wants to fly fish, great; but if it’s just a "load the Evian into the Lexus and head over to the Orvis store because it’s kind of cool and Robert Redford made a movie about it" kind of thing; I’d say just go to Great Adventure. It’ll cost less and everybody will have more fun. One last suggestion (I’m on a roll.) Does it have to be fly fishing? You’re quite close to the Chesapeake, and it’s possible (depending on your budget) to charter a boat for a day of fishing on the Bay (out of Annapolis or Kent Island). Everybody could go, you’ll probably have fun and catch a lot of fish, and you won’t need to buy anything new. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting.
That would certainly be a first. Good luck, Joe F.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway. It may be possible to teach a 5-yr.-old boy to fly fish; but if you try, it will be far from a "fly fishing getaway" for you, which I presumed was the point of the gift. Joe F.
Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue. As to age, I would offer it could be easier to teach an interested 5 yo (boy or girl) as they don’t have learned habits, theories, and likely, haven’t read every word Lefty Kreh has written. They just want to learn to do it. TC, R PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can. HTH? R
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Monica, try Meadow Lane Lodge in Warm Springs VA. Nice country Inn with 2 miles of private Jackson River trout water. Beautiful place, kid friendly, stuff to do at the Inn and surroundings. Makes a romantic getaway if you have a baby-sitter. Check out the URL http://www.meadowlanelodge.com/
Dang Wayne, I might try that place myself. (Now where can I leave the kids? Say, how may bedrooms ya got? <g) Joe F.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else. Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air.
Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway. Secondly, if your husband will be learning this for the first time, his stress level will be greatly reduced if he isn’t worrying about where else he should be or what else he should be doing or where are the kids. Just cut him loose for the weekend and don’t expect to see him until Sunday night. He’ll love it. Trust me.
Well, now here you _may_ have something here, but you sure are making a lot of decisions for someone else. Do you know these people? If so, why are you posting instead of just calling and chatting about it. As I don’t know him, I won’t presume he doesn’t enjoy learning _with_ his family. I, for one, actually like doing such things with kids. They aren’t jaded, and they don’t presume a whole lot…plus, they leave my Scotch the hell alone, never need to bum tobacco products, and are useful for errands. Alternatively (and this is a good idea too), stash the kids, go with him, and learn fly fishing yourself. You may love it and you may be a natural; there’s nothing inherently macho about it. It’s graceful, it’s beautiful, it’s relaxing. Giving your husband a good fishing "buddy" would be a great gift. Sorry, but I don’t see the kids fitting into this at their age. If he really wants to fly fish, great; but if it’s just a "load the Evian into the Lexus and head over to the Orvis store because it’s kind of cool and Robert Redford made a movie about it" kind of thing; I’d say just go to Great Adventure. It’ll cost less and everybody will have more fun.
I’ll just let this stand (or rather, wobble) on its own… One last suggestion (I’m on a roll.) Does it have to be fly fishing? You’re quite close to the Chesapeake, and it’s possible (depending on your budget) to charter a boat for a day of fishing on the Bay (out of Annapolis or Kent Island). Everybody could go, you’ll probably have fun and catch a lot of fish, and you won’t need to buy anything new.
Hey, so am I…when you’re finsihed wizzing in this lady’s Wheaties, why not just plan the trip, send them a schedule and timetable (and your credit card), and be done with it. As to the original post, Monica: I don’t presume to know you, your husband, or boys, and Joe’s point regarding your husband learning, etc., is valid. As to the safety of the boys, there is normally no danger associated with fly fishing common sense won’t handle. (Bears Au Poivre, Cottonmouthed Water Rattlers with Uzis, Molotov UPS trucks, and half-dressed, fully hung over ROFFians excluded). If he doesn’t reply, send an is generally helpful without being a jerk, unlike much of the rest of us… HTH? TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. That would certainly be a first. Good luck, Joe F.
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote… There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11. I’m inclined to agree with Ken. My almost-three year old loves to try to cast a fly rod on the front lawn, generally making a rat’s nest out of the line–but despite her apparent interest it’s going to be several years until I’d feel safe putting a hook on. –Steve
Steve, If it matters, my mother did the same thing, and was a (unaged) casting champion by 13 or 14. She, and then I started with a little 6 footer and a 1494 Medalist about 4 or 5, and at least a dozen other similarly-aged kids did the same with the same rod – we still have it. I don’t know your daughter, but I’ve seen 40 year-olds do worse than your description of her, and give up in a temper tantrum. May I suggest tying her some bright whiffs (so she can track them), setting a hula hoop out and letting her go as she will, instructing if you see any bad habits forming? If you need a few bright tips and hair, I’ll be happy to drop some in the mail. HTH? TC, R
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote… There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11.
I’m inclined to agree with Ken. My almost-three year old loves to try to cast a fly rod on the front lawn, generally making a rat’s nest out of the line–but despite her apparent interest it’s going to be several years until I’d feel safe putting a hook on. –Steve
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Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway.
It may be possible to teach a 5-yr.-old boy to fly fish; but if you try, it will be far from a "fly fishing getaway" for you, which I presumed was the point of the gift. Joe F.
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I learned to fly fish when I was 4. I received my first rod when I was 5. Perhaps 3 is a bit too young, but 5 certainly is not.
There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11. — Ken Fortenberry
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Joe: The next time my wife is looking for ideas for my birthday can I have her contact you for suggestions? –Stan I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else.
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Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air.
I learned to fly fish when I was 4. I received my first rod when I was 5. Perhaps 3 is a bit too young, but 5 certainly is not.
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? …
http://www.coldspringanglers.com/guides.html — Ken Fortenberry
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
Monica, try Meadow Lane Lodge in Warm Springs VA. Nice country Inn with 2 miles of private Jackson River trout water. Beautiful place, kid friendly, stuff to do at the Inn and surroundings. Makes a romantic getaway if you have a baby-sitter. Check out the URL http://www.meadowlanelodge.com/ For a "further afield" fly-fishing only place try West Branch Anglers along the PA-NY border on the West Branch of the Deleware. Not very kid-friendly but has a great restaurant and the drift boat trips are great fishing if you catch the water levels right. I think we have a poster here who guides in the area. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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