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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context. Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation!

Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-) The futile strugglings of a desperate soul…can be fun to watch in the right context.       – Ken — "Complex problems have simple, easy-to-understand wrong answers."                                          -Anon

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After reading Tim quote in context on sci.bio.fisheries, a limitted discussion of what constitutes a natural fishery came up.  One person felt that there wasn’t such a thing because once we include man, it is no longer natural. Dave Fluir gave the following definition: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My own bent, and this is, of course, purely personal bias, is to think of a natural fishery, in the purest sense of that term, as the following:    The exploitation of a fish population sustained solely by natural reproduction with no deliberate attempt at the inflation of    carrying capacity through a) anthropogenic nutrient input or b) introduction of species not enzootic to the waterbody for the    express purpose of increasing fish production. Wow, what a mouthful, eh? Dave (should I put on asbestos, now?) Fluri North Bay, Ontario  Canada

Another person said that that included most of the fisheries in his state, however, the bodies of water are themselves artificial. What makes a natural fishery? What waters do you consider natural fisheries? Willi

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"buttload of small ones"? Careful with that Powlesland bait, Timmy ;^)

You’re right…appreciate the ‘heads-up’… ouch there’s another one… ouch..that’s one too… I worry about a man who thinks a dick in melted sidewalk salt is a homoerotic image. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation!

You probably complain to Blockbuster that the previews aren’t full length versions either ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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I worry about a man who thinks a dick in melted sidewalk salt is a homoerotic image.

What about someone who ponders putting his there? <g — Charlie…

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Cruelty to animals.  The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management " Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-)

Quite the opposite my man.  Quite the opposite.  But of course, since you only look at the pictures (and in this case only read the subject line) I wouldn’t expect you to know. It was *PROVEN* that you reply without reading the posts earlier on in this thread Janek, you’re pretty much removed from any possibility of an intelligent debate AFAIC. That said, I am extremely tickled and very pleased with the sincere and intelligent followups I have seen to followup here in sci.bio.fisheries (Gee….sci.bio.fisheries…1 solid response based on science there would be worth 1000 based on emotion here) alt.flyfishing and co.general.  I have found a new home away from home in sci.bio.fisheries ! This following (admittedly out of context but standing alone) quote was the only reply I needed to refuel the cells.  I most certainly am not "mad" about the lack of response.  The only lack of response that I’m mad about is the lack of response from the CDOW. "It is true that the animal rights activists are going to attack this sport with vigor in the next few years. It is time a few fishermen break out of the lock-step of C&R and develop campaigns to pre-empt the inevitable" AMEN Brother…. To Catch is Human, to eat, the *only* possible justification To Catch. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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Another person said that that included most of the fisheries in his state, however, the bodies of water are themselves artificial. What makes a natural fishery? What waters do you consider natural fisheries?

I generally dislike attempting to define the undefinable, but from a "gut feeling" perspective, I have a definition that I for the most part agree with. A fishery with naturally reproducing fish.  I include fisheries which were stocked with hatchery fish, but that are now self- reproducing. Just my $0.02,      - Ken — "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing

Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Ah, he’s just mad because he’s not getting the response he thought he would.  The whole thing has mutated into a fight about "picking on Texas."  :-) Quite the opposite my man.  Quite the opposite.  But of course, since you only look at the pictures (and in this case only read the subject line) I wouldn’t expect you to know. It was *PROVEN* that you reply without reading the posts earlier on in this thread Janek, you’re pretty much removed from any possibility of an intelligent debate AFAIC.

B.M.T.I.A.  I love it when you have to resort to your famous *PROVEN* accolades.  It has been "proven" that you have never "proven" a damn thing here.  Every one of your "facts" has been shown to be nothing more than opinion and emotion and lots of people have taken you to task on these.  Throw away your emotional and ethical arguments and you haven’t a leg to stand on.  (No, not even your third leg after you’ve been playing with salt and sidewalks.)  You are all hot air and have been shown as such.  There are many people here willing to hold intelligent discussions, unfortunately you are not one of them. AMEN Brother….

These really are your true colors.  You are on a crusade.  Just like the other loons who stand on street corners and shout insults and tell us all to "repent your evil ways."  As with the other loons, there is no room for reason in your mind.  You’ve never pondered a single thing any other person has said here dispite many well thought out arguments by a great many intelligent people.  It must be sad to live inside such a tiny inflexible mind. Happy Friday,      - Ken — "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ?

naw…. don’t like the glue lines and they always come with a wierd bend to them. <G chris

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[snipped] …the need to harvest a buttload of small ones from time to time

"buttload of small ones"? Careful with that Powlesland bait, Timmy ;^)

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context.

Now doesn’t that crank you up – tim pulls the 5 second sound bight out of the context of another ng (doesn’t even reference the post or the author) and then compains one has to read the whole post to understand the context! A master of misrepresentation! RalphH

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To Catch is Human, to eat, the *only* possible justification To Catch.

The need to justify is an attribute of guilt. — Charlie…

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Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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I’m sorry everybody, but someone’s going to do it anyway.  So it might as well be me… "That said, I *am* an unabashed Animal Rights supporter. I *WOULD* vote to  make C&R illegal." – Tim Walker Do a DejaNews search if you want to see the context, but it doesn’t matter he meant exactly what he said.        - Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you? Cruelty to animals. The horse is dead stop beating the poor thing Don’t like it when C&R’s practiced on you eh ? It’s whopping good fun from this end ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer

– "I went to the woods to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts  of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when  I came to die, discover that I had not lived." – Henry David Thoreau

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Couldn’t care less about being baited by you. Unless your a member of an Animal Rights Group. Are you?

Yes, I am a member of the human race. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management " Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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Ah. I can think of no other two words which would inspire so much daydreaming, except maybe ‘beaver’ instead of ‘trout’.

You’d love driving around N GA, TN and NC. "Trout ponds’ are all over the place, they provide the poles and bait your hook too. Your pa,

Uh, don’t think so<g. — Charlie…

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what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G

Another goddamned fillet knife purist ! Probably have a Bastard #2 bamboo fillet knife, eh ? ;{) You need to read the post to understand the context.  It was discussing the fact of correcting an imbalance in a fishery vis-a-vis predator/prey relationship and the need to harvest a buttload of small ones from time to time and the observation that most anglers probably won’t fool with a 5 inch crappie, though that might be the best thing to be done and an electric fillet knife makes short order of filleting 200 bluegills. Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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[deleted] Your pa, Uh, don’t think so<g.

You’re right…. I meant to type "Your bitch," — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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You misspelled ‘trout pond’<g.

Ah. I can think of no other two words which would inspire so much daydreaming, except maybe ‘beaver’ instead of ‘trout’. Your pa, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management "

what the hell is wrong with a goddamn normal fillet knife.  an electric lesson <G chris

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A great quote there this AM… "a good electric knife and filleting lesson would greatly assist fishery management "

You misspelled ‘trout pond’<g. — Charlie…

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Hey, this is a "Catch & Release" newsgroup…                            - jqt –

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Well said, and moderate yesiree. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remove me from your mailing list you forgot to say please. for that little faux-paus, you have to grovel here by posting: "oh pretty please, please for god’s sake, let me please be removed from this list" hourly, for three more weeks. sorry, it’s the facs maam. waldo, snedekerated appointed facs bastard.

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You did it again Wayne.  You used up all of the on topic subjects, now we only have off topic subjects to talk about. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remove me from your mailing list Wayne Harrison wrote no, wait, stop!  don’t leave!  we can do better, i swear! we’ll stay on topic, honest to god!  please, wait…listen, how about this:  um, let’s see…oh, yeah:  7.5 foot rods are great for eastern freestone streams of average size; i like thomas & thomas, but that’s because i’m a very wealthy gear whore—you can get great, all-american type bargains at cabela’s.  remember to use a 9′5wt on those big, brawling western rivers, though.  oh, yeah, if you’re looking for a tip on where to go, try the beaverkill in new york, the madison or the yellowstone in montana, the south platte in colorado…ok, here’s a *real* inside tip:  go to the confluence of the frying pan and the roaring fork in colorado; a great guide lives there, in a shiny new house.  he let’s people stay for free.  oh, if you don’t know how to cast very well, always remember to keep your wrist firm, and don’t overpower the rod, ok?  hey, if you get all frustrated about your choice of fly your first time out on the battenkill, just slip an improved clinch (tied with an orvis leader) around that trusty ol royal wulff (size 14 is *unbeatable*) and hold on, pard!  and, heck, if you don’t haul em in by the dozens, what’s to worry:  i mean, it is "fishing", not "catching", right (pretty funny, eh?), and the whole point is to just be closer to nature or give a kid a chance to fish or be with god in your own special way or… did anybody ever tell you that you snore terribly? wayno, on topic, do or die.

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Remove me from your mailing list Before you buy.

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        no, wait, stop!  don’t leave!  we can do better, i swear! we’ll stay on topic, honest to god!  please, wait…listen, how about this:  um, let’s see…oh, yeah:  7.5 foot rods are great for eastern freestone streams of average size; i like thomas & thomas, but that’s because i’m a very wealthy gear whore—you can get great, all-american type bargains at cabela’s.  remember to use a 9′5wt on those big, brawling western rivers, though.  oh, yeah, if you’re looking for a tip on where to go, try the beaverkill in new york, the madison or the yellowstone in montana, the south platte in colorado…ok, here’s a *real* inside tip:  go to the confluence of the frying pan and the roaring fork in colorado; a great guide lives there, in a shiny new house.  he let’s people stay for free.  oh, if you don’t know how to cast very well, always remember to keep your wrist firm, and don’t overpower the rod, ok?  hey, if you get all frustrated about your choice of fly your first time out on the battenkill, just slip an improved clinch (tied with an orvis leader) around that trusty ol royal wulff (size 14 is *unbeatable*) and hold on, pard!  and, heck, if you don’t haul em in by the dozens, what’s to worry:  i mean, it is "fishing", not "catching", right (pretty funny, eh?), and the whole point is to just be closer to nature or give a kid a chance to fish or be with god in your own special way or…         did anybody ever tell you that you snore terribly? wayno, on topic, do or die.

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Remove me from your mailing list

You are hearby transferred to the mailing list of alt.flyfishingvampires.flonk.flonk.flonk!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Well he is not going to get a refund for unsubscribing so soon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayno That was goooooooooooooooooood. Almost poetic. I see an opportunity as a Wallmart greeter. My hero. Dave PS Maybe need a line on how to dress and perhaps something about how now that they are retired from mid management they can’t expect others to coddle them. Remove me from your mailing list no, wait, stop!  don’t leave!  we can do better, i swear! we’ll stay on topic, honest to god!  please, wait…listen, how about this:  um, let’s see…oh, yeah:  7.5 foot rods are great for eastern freestone streams of average size; i like thomas & thomas, but that’s because i’m a very wealthy gear whore—you can get great, all-american type bargains at cabela’s.  remember to use a 9′5wt on those big, brawling western rivers, though.  oh, yeah, if you’re looking for a tip on where to go, try the beaverkill in new york, the madison or the yellowstone in montana, the south platte in colorado…ok, here’s a *real* inside tip:  go to the confluence of the frying pan and the roaring fork in colorado; a great guide lives there, in a shiny new house.  he let’s people stay for free.  oh, if you don’t know how to cast very well, always remember to keep your wrist firm, and don’t overpower the rod, ok?  hey, if you get all frustrated about your choice of fly your first time out on the battenkill, just slip an improved clinch (tied with an orvis leader) around that trusty ol royal wulff (size 14 is *unbeatable*) and hold on, pard!  and, heck, if you don’t haul em in by the dozens, what’s to worry:  i mean, it is "fishing", not "catching", right (pretty funny, eh?), and the whole point is to just be closer to nature or give a kid a chance to fish or be with god in your own special way or… did anybody ever tell you that you snore terribly? wayno, on topic, do or die.

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mraz says: remove me from your mailing iist

Actually, mraz, you are not subscribed to a mailing list.  This is a newsgroup.  YOU have to unsubscribe yourself.  No one at Rec. Outdoors. Fishing. Fly (ROFF) can unsubscribe you.  I know how to do it with my isp, but not with your’s.  Do you have a window that that says "Remove" or perhaps "Quit"? Highlight roff and click on Remove or whatever and you should be unsubscribed. good luck. Dave L.

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True, but it wouldn’t have been as much fun. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – remove me from your mailing iist Jeff Cook wrote Okay, stop torturing the guy. <snip By the way, a simple question or polite request would have been much less noisy. Jeff Cook

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remove me from your mailing iist Before you buy.

I don’t know how to break this to ya bud, but you subscribed yourself and only you can unsubscribe.  Perhaps you should use the Help feature in your email/news client and put in the word "subscribe" in the help search.   Don’t blame us if you don’t know how to use your newsreader. Peter

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<snipped some helpful advice Please hold, an analysts will be with you shortly. <elevator music

actually Insid….doesn’t roff employs a proctologist for unsubscribing the az’s… jeff (avoiding the endoscope and proctoscope, and enjoyin the sh*t outta        roff)

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Well he is not going to get a refund for unsubscribing so soon

I say we hold him hostage and stake him out for the meowers…

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remove me from your mailing iist

Okay, stop torturing the guy. This is not a mailing list, it is a newsgroup. You are not subscribed to anything, but are actively asking for these messages to be displayed. Ask your internet provider or read the help files of your newsgroup reader software or your my-deja.com service to figure out how to drop rec.outdoors.fly.fishing from your active newsgroup list so you won’t be distracted by it anymore. By the way, a simple question or polite request would have been much less noisy. — Jeff Cook http://www.cookstudios.com Washington DC area

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good luck.

There should be instructions on deja.com on how to do this, it’s not an ISP issue unless you are accessing through a news server as opposed to a web site. — Charlie…

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        i have come to the terrifying conclusion that this goddam place is the hotel california, without the "champagne on ice", and all the other perks.

ROFLMAO! bc.

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remove me from your mailing iist Before you buy.

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remove me from your mailing iist

Pardon me, could you please repeat that?

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But you haven’t even asked for the address to send the unsubscribe fee.  It takes an incredible number of man-hours to unsubscride someone from this end, and we need to pass the costs onto the person requesting an emergency unsubscription. Now, it may cost you extra, as the ROFF tech staff is not sure where we keep the "iists" for mailing. Please hold, an analysts will be with you shortly. <elevator music

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I say we hold him hostage and stake him out for the meowers…

Let’s stake him out and give him a good flonking! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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I was extremely disappointed to find that you made no mention of what breathable waders he should buy. –Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no, wait, stop!  don’t leave!  we can do better, i swear! we’ll stay on topic, honest to god!  please, wait…listen, how about this:  um, let’s see…oh, yeah:  7.5 foot rods are great for eastern freestone streams of average size; i like thomas & thomas, but that’s because i’m a very wealthy gear whore—you can get great, all-american type bargains at cabela’s.  MORE GREAT STUFF DELETED wayno, on topic, do or die.

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OK, I give up.  Whence cometh this overwhelming need to be abused in a public forum?  Would the Flagellants not accept you?  Have you been so naughty that you feel no punishment is strong enough?  What….WHAT on this Earth compels one to so obviously and abjectly come begging for a beating?

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Remove me from your mailing list Wolfgang replied OK, I give up.  Whence cometh this overwhelming need to be abused in a public forum?  Would the Flagellants not accept you?  Have you been so naughty that you feel no punishment is strong enough?  What….WHAT on this Earth compels one to so obviously and abjectly come begging for a beating?

Add him to the femailing list. Ernie

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Good luck. I have been trying to unsubscribe for 5 years. I have finally determined this NG is the ultimate virus that even my Norton Super Virus Killer cannot kill.

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Good luck. I have been trying to unsubscribe for 5 years. I have finally determined this NG is the ultimate virus that even my Norton Super Virus Killer cannot kill.

        i have come to the terrifying conclusion that this goddam place is the hotel california, without the "champagne on ice", and all the other perks.         wayno, who is…afraid

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you forgot to say please. for that little faux-paus, you have to grovel here by posting: "oh pretty please, please for god’s sake, let me please be removed from this list" hourly, for three more weeks. sorry, it’s the facs maam. waldo, snedekerated appointed facs bastard.

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Wayno That was goooooooooooooooooood. Almost poetic. I see an opportunity as a Wallmart greeter. My hero. Dave PS Maybe need a line on how to dress and perhaps something about how now that they are retired from mid management they can’t expect others to coddle them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remove me from your mailing list no, wait, stop!  don’t leave!  we can do better, i swear! we’ll stay on topic, honest to god!  please, wait…listen, how about this:  um, let’s see…oh, yeah:  7.5 foot rods are great for eastern freestone streams of average size; i like thomas & thomas, but that’s because i’m a very wealthy gear whore—you can get great, all-american type bargains at cabela’s.  remember to use a 9′5wt on those big, brawling western rivers, though.  oh, yeah, if you’re looking for a tip on where to go, try the beaverkill in new york, the madison or the yellowstone in montana, the south platte in colorado…ok, here’s a *real* inside tip:  go to the confluence of the frying pan and the roaring fork in colorado; a great guide lives there, in a shiny new house.  he let’s people stay for free.  oh, if you don’t know how to cast very well, always remember to keep your wrist firm, and don’t overpower the rod, ok?  hey, if you get all frustrated about your choice of fly your first time out on the battenkill, just slip an improved clinch (tied with an orvis leader) around that trusty ol royal wulff (size 14 is *unbeatable*) and hold on, pard!  and, heck, if you don’t haul em in by the dozens, what’s to worry:  i mean, it is "fishing", not "catching", right (pretty funny, eh?), and the whole point is to just be closer to nature or give a kid a chance to fish or be with god in your own special way or… did anybody ever tell you that you snore terribly? wayno, on topic, do or die.

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My wife is pushing us to make plans to go to Florida in Feb, and I’m wondering if anyone knows when the FF show (Sommerset, NJ) is. Thanks. LV Before you buy.

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The Somerset  FF Show is Jan 28 -30

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The ‘Flyfishing Show’ in Somerset, NJ takes place the weekend of January 22nd and 23rd. It may even begin on Friday sometime but of that I’m not certain. The show is being held at the Garden State Exhibit Center, across from the Holiday Inn and next to the Doubletree Motel. If I remember correctly it is right off Exit 10 on Route 287.

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Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx.

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Where would i find some information on this fly at? do you have a picture of it?  Thanx.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx. Niblet Fly ought to do it…

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Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx.

Niblet Fly ought to do it…

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are you fishing the surface or subsurface, I like to use floatant on hares ear nymphs and strip it in the surface film  or use beadheads subsurface. Good dry’s are ones that can be skimmed over the surface without sinking or twisting the line, caddis drys are good as are renagades. Bushy wulffs are great for sight and for trout that will pounce on whatever they see. Wolly buggers are a favorite for many, I would use small patterns w/ black being a common color. Many use a bushy dry fly w/ a small nymph dropper usually a midge larva or or smalll beadhead 16-20.  this can be real fun the fish may be attracted by the dry but hit the dropper, just use a foot or two of 5 or 6x tippet and thie it directly to the bend of the bushy dry patterns hook, just make sure you check for breaking stregnth. The dry is a strike indicator for the nymph but this will tell you just how active the fish are toward big drys. If you get no hits on the dry change it if none on the nymph change that it can take out some of the problem solving on what they want because lets face it stockers can be fussy too.  : ]        

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Niblet Fly ought to do it…

ROFLOL! bc.

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aka the Golden Terrestrial. Steve Zimmerman

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx. Niblet Fly ought to do it…

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For your question of what type of fly to use ( stocked trout ), I have  had the best luck using a bead head caddis    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Anyone out there fish the Deschutes River.  Looking for someone to share information with.

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Anyone out there fish the Deschutes River.  Looking for someone to share information with.

I fish the lower 20 miles of the Deschutes.  I already have had freinds catch some steelhead.  this is th time of the year to get to the river and swing a fly across the current….hang on, he will jerk the rod out of your hand. Sharp Hooks, Pat Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. http://www.holdzit.com Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast.  Thank you.

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I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast.  Thank you.

You can go bonefishing on Cozumel. The cost is $300 for two anglers. Capt Gene Kelly

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I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast.  Thank you.

Hi All, There are at least a half dozen bonefish guides on Cozumel. I would get a guide for a half day for about $200 in the AM. Take a #7, 8 or 9 weight multi-piece outfit with a floating line. Have a hat, light colored Polarized glasses and sun screen. Bill Kiene (capitalist pig) Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 1-800-4000FLY (toll free in US) www.kiene.com

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I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast.  Thank you.

Be prepared for a real long boat ride. Make sure the boat has life preservers. Don’t trust the signs in hotels that say "purified water". Take $50 in one dollar bills to pay for cabs. The drivers won’t make change.

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Hi, I missed the original post, but if it’s tailing loops, Dan is right on – the timings the thing. I would just add that you might also check that ou are indeed throwing the line "up and over". I find that many problems originate when a caster is just whipping the rod, rather than concentrating on putting the fly line up and over the shoulder, this ensures a straight take away, and does a lot to prevent side loops, which most people confuse with tailing loops. Just a thought…. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dan, I have to say that your recent series of posts has been one of the most helpful things I have ever seen in this newsgroup. I’m sure a lot of us have learned from it, even those of us who have been fishing for a while (I can still tail the odd loop just fine after twenty years with a fly rod). We might even have to stop bitching about Orivs for a while… (-: Andrew Andrew N. Herd Associate Editor, Waterlog Magazine http://www.demon.co.uk/medlarpress/ writes: If the timing is bad, the line drops well below the plane on the forward cast before you bring it forward and it can hit the line.  Practicing your casting at times other than just when you’re fishing can go a long way to develop the sense of timing needed to correct this.  A practical exercise to allow you to see the cast without swiveling your shoulders (swiveling shoulders causes you to throw hooks in your cast) is to either use a side-arm cast, or angle your body at about 60 degrees to the target so you can move your head to watch the back cast extend without moving your shoulders. Snip                        Hope this helps,                                Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

– Bill Curry Tight Lines Guide Service Lockeport, Nova Scotia, Canada http://www.tightlines.ns.ca

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This is one of the best explanations/techniques I have heard for identifying this problem!!!  A couple years ago I was throwing tailing loop after tailing loop.  Since it was the end of the day and I had gotten up at 4:00am I just figured I was tired and decided to call it a day.  Just then (of course) a big brown noisily slurped a hopper and I decided on "just a couple more casts". I promptly threw a tailing loop AND tangled in an overhanging branch.  I snapped off the leader.  When preparing to tie on a new one I noticed a crack in the flyline about 2 or 3" up from the leader.  I trimmed the line, tied on a new leader and proceeded to make several casts that were better than most I had thrown all afternoon.  Now I have a technique for identifying the problem rather than lucking out.  Thanks! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated. Hi Dana, Before you start worrying about your casting technique, take a quick look at the junction of the leader to the fly line.  If it is cracked so that it hinges instead of transferring energy smoothly, no amount of casting modification will make it work. Perfectly executed casts with this mechanical problem will throw tailing loops. If you’re not sure whether or not the junction causes a hinge, here’s a simple test: 1.  Hold the fly line in one hand and the leader in the other with the junction in the middle and about 6" of material on each side of it. 2.  Push your hands together until they are about 6" apart.  This should form an upside down "U"  in the line. 3.  Raise one hand while lowering the other.  This will roll the junction over the upside down "U" in the line. 4.  If it rolls over smoothly then your casting technique is the problem. If one side collapses instead of rolling over, then you have a mechanical "hinging" problem.  If you use too fine of a diameter monofilament for the butt section of your leader, that will cause hinging on the leader side – If you use too heavy of a diameter mono for the butt section it will cause the fly line to collapse.  Any crack that is serious enough to cause casting problems becomes immediately apparent with this test.  In any case the answer is to cut off the old junction and replace it with one of the right size.  You will often have to cut off a few inches of the fly line if it’s badly cracked. I’ll address some casting options in another post.                            Hope this helps,                                      Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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Dan, I have to say that your recent series of posts has been one of the most helpful things I have ever seen in this newsgroup. I’m sure a lot of us have learned from it, even those of us who have been fishing for a while (I can still tail the odd loop just fine after twenty years with a fly rod). We might even have to stop bitching about Orivs for a while… (-: Andrew Andrew N. Herd Associate Editor, Waterlog Magazine http://www.demon.co.uk/medlarpress/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: If the timing is bad, the line drops well below the plane on the forward cast before you bring it forward and it can hit the line.  Practicing your casting at times other than just when you’re fishing can go a long way to develop the sense of timing needed to correct this.  A practical exercise to allow you to see the cast without swiveling your shoulders (swiveling shoulders causes you to throw hooks in your cast) is to either use a side-arm cast, or angle your body at about 60 degrees to the target so you can move your head to watch the back cast extend without moving your shoulders.

Snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                        Hope this helps,                                Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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Hi Dana, It sounds like the old trailing loop syndrome.  We all start off with it as a throw back to the spinning rod. Your book is correct. I’ve taught many people how to cast and they all go through this problem.  Most seem to correct the problem once they’ve heard the problem explained in a way that makes sense to them. So I’ll explain it in a different way. Hold your rod out directly straight from you and push down. Notice the Tip of the rod goes up before it goes down with the rest of the rod. When you start a cast the same thing happens. If you apply too much power too soon the rod tip goes down before it goes forward. The line simply follows along going down before it comes up. Sometimes catching itself on the way back up. Any power applied before the tip of the rod reaches the 12:00 position will cause the rod tip to go down before forward. Therefore the majority of power must be applied after the tip of the rod has past the butt. Good Luck — William Endicott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated. Thanks, Dana

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Something that improved my casting was to convince myself there was no difference between the back and forward cast.  I started false casting 30′ of line and slowly rotated while keeping the line going in the same direction until I was facing what was my back cast.  When I could rotate 360 degrees under the cast and keep it going smoothly with tight loops and not shock the line or have tailing loops, my attitude toward the mechanics of casting changed and my casting improved. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated. Thanks, Dana

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writes: If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated.

Hi Dana, Before you start worrying about your casting technique, take a quick look at the junction of the leader to the fly line.  If it is cracked so that it hinges instead of transferring energy smoothly, no amount of casting modification will make it work. Perfectly executed casts with this mechanical problem will throw tailing loops. If you’re not sure whether or not the junction causes a hinge, here’s a simple test: 1.  Hold the fly line in one hand and the leader in the other with the junction in the middle and about 6" of material on each side of it. 2.  Push your hands together until they are about 6" apart.  This should form an upside down "U"  in the line. 3.  Raise one hand while lowering the other.  This will roll the junction over the upside down "U" in the line. 4.  If it rolls over smoothly then your casting technique is the problem.  If one side collapses instead of rolling over, then you have a mechanical "hinging" problem.  If you use too fine of a diameter monofilament for the butt section of your leader, that will cause hinging on the leader side – If you use too heavy of a diameter mono for the butt section it will cause the fly line to collapse.  Any crack that is serious enough to cause casting problems becomes immediately apparent with this test.  In any case the answer is to cut off the old junction and replace it with one of the right size.  You will often have to cut off a few inches of the fly line if it’s badly cracked. I’ll address some casting options in another post.                             Hope this helps,                                       Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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writes: If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated.

Besides the mechanical problems addressed in another post, your casting technique can certainly cause this problem. The two most common causes are bad timing, and the afore-mentioned jerky accelleration.  If the timing is bad, the line drops well below the plane on the forward cast before you bring it forward and it can hit the line.  Practicing your casting at times other than just when you’re fishing can go a long way to develop the sense of timing needed to correct this.  A practical exercise to allow you to see the cast without swiveling your shoulders (swiveling shoulders causes you to throw hooks in your cast) is to either use a side-arm cast, or angle your body at about 60 degrees to the target so you can move your head to watch the back cast extend without moving your shoulders.   For the side-arm cast, lay the rod out directly in front of you with the reel pointed in the direction of the target (not pointed down at the ground *very important*).  Use a slicing motion, not a scooping motion to make the cast while keeping your shoulders perfectly still.  You can watch the loop travel in both directions and you can easily see the width of the casting arc you’re using.  By changing the width of this casting arc you can widen or tighten your loops.  *Dont wait for the line to straighten out entirely* before you start your forward cast.  It takes a split second reaction time to initiate the forward cast and if you wait until it straightens out entirely it will fall considerably and bleed off energy before you actually start your forward cast. Reaction time is different for everyone and you have to find out just when is right by trial and error.  For starters pick a spot a foot or two back from the end of the fly line, and when the unrolling loop reaches that point, start your forward cast.  Adjust this distance farther back from the end of the fly line or closer to it as needed.  When you hit it "spot on" the fly will just sort of stop for a split second in mid-air.  That’s perfect.  The good news is that it doesn’t have to be perfect, but the closer you can get to it the more efficient your casting will be. Bad accelleration is a more common problem with tailing loops and it becomes particularly noticeable when making longer casts or when casting in windy conditions.  The tendency is to put a lot more force into the rod and that usually results in jerking it forward.  This sudden jerk causes the rod to load (flex) suddenly and then unload (straighten) slightly because less energy is used to finish the stroke than start it.  This causes the rod tip to travel in a concave or U shape and will always throw a tailing loop.   Extra power can be added to a casting stroke, but it must be at the very end – "Accellerate to a Stop".  If this is the problem, try stopping the rod more suddenly at the end of the stroke instead of hitting it harder at the start. Another option that will result in the same thing is to start the beginning of your cast by pulling on the rod, not jerking it.  With proper accelleration and the right casting arc, your rod tip will travel in a straight line "—-" from start through the flexing and to the finish which will throw a tight efficient loop.                         Hope this helps,                                 Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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If anyone can help me I could really use some advice (and I really don’t want to hear anything about my socks not matching my shoes).  I consider myself an intermediate fly caster, but I occassionally will get a closing loop where the leader will actually wrap itself around the loop.  I read in a book that it can be caused by accelerating into the foreward cast too soon and not smoothly accelerating. Does anyone else have some advice? All opinions are appreciated. Thanks, Dana

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I would appreciate if someone would post chapter and verse the regulations regarding foul hooking (or snagging) of fish in Colorado. So far the only reference has been a brief ‘open season’ on the Gunnison to utilize Kokanee in the late fall. Is snagging generally allowed. Is it only allowed in only this or other specific instances? If only in limited circumstances what if anything do the regulations say about what an angler must do if he/she accidentally foul hooks a fish when it is not within the specific allowance of the regulation?

Ralph, I have read along this thread and waded through some of the off target posts. After reading you post and the follow up from  "Keith Bell" snagging rules are likely very different than what constitutes a legal catch and how a foul hook is defined. Here in Georgia this has been of concern to myself and several of my fellow anglers. On a trophy stream(the only one at the time) one of the regular anglers was suspected of snagging(which would be foul hooking) fish. Understand the the water here is small and in the summer it can be extremely shallow. This particular angler(whose name sadly became synonymous with foul hooking) used a fly rod with a VERY heavy leader, several full size split shot and a size six wolly worm. Amazingly he detailed how fish would strike repeatedly after actually being hooked and breaking off. It was more accurate to say that he stood over fish, dragging his terminal tackle along, under a fish and I guess near the head. Then he would give it a hook set. He regularly foul hooked fish as reported by those who fished with him. My partner came upon he and his son and kept out of site till they left. When we entered the hole we found a fish floating with a very noticable puncture wound in the belly; it was recently dead. Now, I must say that I have foul hooked fish. When that happens and I realize it I try to land the fish quickly and release it. The former stream mentioned allowed an angler to keep a single fish over 22"(17" Brook) per day(3/yr) but if it was foul hooked, it technically should have been released. I don’t know how to avoid foul hooking a fish in normal angling. Here in Georgia though, if you are fishing in put & take streams I suppose it does not matter. Streams with restrictions would be different but it still depends mostly on the ethics of the angler. Hope this is not too long. Good luck on your serach for information. Regrads, J. Webb Atlanta Mac User Group

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [deleted] 7. SNAGGING:         Snagging is illegal unless permitted by the Division on specific waters during specific times. Those seasons are in the list of waters in this brochure. Snagged fish, except kokanee salmon, must be returned to the water immediately. Waters open to snagging include: Beaver Creek Res.; [list shortened] and Williams Fork Res. Snagging begins as early as Sept. 1 on some waters and runs to Jan. 31 on others. To be useful, though, Ken, you should have also posted the definition of Snagging. I didn’t think it was needed, but if it makes you feel better. From the following URL… http://www.canoecreek.com/CFF/p12.htm SNAGGING: Taking of fish by snatching with hooks, gang  hooks, artificial flies or lures or similar devices that hook  fish in part of its body other than mouth. Sounds like you’re pretty much busted on this one.  ;-( But, to be *truly* useful, now you will have to define "snatch". TimW

))))))))  I’m afraid that you’re stretching just a bit too far on that one.  (((((((-: Considering the original phrase in the regulation, "Snagged fish, except kokanee salmon, must be returned to the water immediately."  It leaves little room for anyone to believe that the intent of the regulation is anything other than if you happen to snag a fish you are supposed to release it. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the regulation, you technically were in violation. Sorry,      - Ken

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [deleted] 7. SNAGGING:         Snagging is illegal unless permitted by the Division on specific waters during specific times. Those seasons are in the list of waters in this brochure. Snagged fish, except kokanee salmon, must be returned to the water immediately. Waters open to snagging include: Beaver Creek Res.; [list shortened] and Williams Fork Res. Snagging begins as early as Sept. 1 on some waters and runs to Jan. 31 on others. To be useful, though, Ken, you should have also posted the definition of Snagging. I didn’t think it was needed, but if it makes you feel better. From the following URL… http://www.canoecreek.com/CFF/p12.htm SNAGGING: Taking of fish by snatching with hooks, gang  hooks, artificial flies or lures or similar devices that hook  fish in part of its body other than mouth.   Sounds like you’re pretty much busted on this one.  ;-(

But, to be *truly* useful, now you will have to define "snatch". TimW

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By your definition’s oh great right and mighty ones, *All* active presentations of the lure would be illegal. And clearly, any self respecting flyfisherman would look the other way while I weeded out the ‘trash’ species. What do the flyfishermen in the valley call them as they hurl the mighty whitefish onto the bank…"Choabies" ? — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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By your definition’s oh great right and mighty ones, *All* active presentations of the lure would be illegal.

You’re twisting the words again. Here’s what was said, "Snagged fish, except kokanee salmon, must be returned to the water immediately."  This is straight from the Colorado regs.  What they are saying is that if you happen to snag a fish, you must return that fish to the water immediately. This doesn’t make any type of presentation illegal, it just says that regardless of how you happened to do it, you must let the fish go. Whether this is the correct thing to do or not is not at issue here, according to the regs you were doing the wrong thing. Just trying to keep things honest here,      - Ken — Due to USENET parsing SPAMmers, anti-spam measures are in place, reverse the letters in my login to reply (kinajk to kjan..). The opinions expressed do not necessarily indicate the opinions of my employer.

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[deleted] 7. SNAGGING:         Snagging is illegal unless permitted by the Division on specific waters during specific times. Those seasons are in the list of waters in this brochure. Snagged fish, except kokanee salmon, must be returned to the water immediately. Waters open to snagging include: Beaver Creek Res.; [list shortened] and Williams Fork Res. Snagging begins as early as Sept. 1 on some waters and runs to Jan. 31 on others.

To be useful, though, Ken, you should have also posted the definition of Snagging. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON

I think Ralph’s answer was based on the the original post requesting for fishing spots within mountain biking distance from Vancouver.  I agree Chehalis and Vedder are hot spots but they are a little far for biking.  Good post though. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THIS IS MARK GIBSON FROM COQUITLAM. I HAVE LIVED IN THE LOWER MAINLAND OF B.C. FOR 20 YEARS AND FISHED LOTS OF PLACES. THE END OF JULY IS THE BEST TIME TO FISH IN THE LOWER MAINLAND. I READ THE MESSAGE THAT THE OTHER GUY SENT (DIDN’T GET THE NAME) BUT HE DID NOT TELL YOU THE HOT SPOTS. THE FRASER RIVER IS TEEMING WITH SALMON. THERE ARE 50 POUND CHINOOK AND 20 POUND COHO BUT THE BIG ATTRACTION IS THE HUGE RUN OF SOCKEY. THESE FISH CAN GET TO BE 10 POUNDS AND PUT UP A GREAT SCRAP. THE RUN THIS YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THAN EVER. 20 MILLION ARE EXPECTED. LAST YEAR WE HAD 4 MILLION AND I CAUGHT FISH EVERY OUTTING. USE A PEACE OF LIGHT GREEN WOOL IN THE LOOP OF A BAIT KNOT, 3 FOOT LEADER, SWIVEL, AND SOME PENCIL LEAD. AN 8 FOOT ROD AND A LEVEL WIND REAL, (I USE A DIAWA MILLIONAIRE) IS THE BEST EQUIPMENT TO USE. THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO USE A WET LINE, FEW SPLITSHOTS AND A GREEN FLY. A SOCKEY ON A FLY ROD WILL BE WICKED. OH, AND WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID IS TRUE BUT THE BEST FISHING IS NOT IN THE CAPILANO; THE VEDDER (CHILLIWACK), CHEHALIS, AND BEST OF ALL THE FRASER. IF YOU COULD, WRITE BACK AND TELL ME ABOUT THE FISHING WHERE YOU ARE. PS      CHECK THE REGS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND USE A BARBLESS HOOK; CATCH AND RELEASE IS THE BEST WAY TO FISH. TIGHT LINES MARK GIBSON I think Ralph’s answer was based on the the original post requesting for fishing spots within mountain biking distance from Vancouver.  I agree Chehalis and Vedder are hot spots but they are a little far for biking.  Good post though. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

I believe I’ve blabbed excessively about the "50 million" salmon returning to the Fraser previously. This years sockeye run is hoped to be 500% bigger than last year. Unfortunately if it proves true it virtually guarentees 10 times the number of anglers will go after them. While large numbers of salmon return to the Chehalis and Vedder rivers each summer and fall so do equally large numbers of fishermen (and women). Anyone who is travelling to this area and hopes to sample those fisheries while here, I strongly urge that you arrange your fishing time to fall during the week days to avoid the worst of the crowds Ralph H replace "spamsucks" with direct for email reply.

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I am just getting started in FF and I don’t know the best method for affixing my flyline to the reel.  Also, how do I attach the leader to the line?

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Benjamin, You can tie the backing to the reel, the backing to the fly line than the flyline to the leader/tippet. Reel to backing: Two simple overhand knots. Tag end of backing around spool 2 times and tie an overhand knot in the end. Than a second overhand knot around the standing line. Snug up the second knot. Than pull the standing line tight. The knots should slip down to the spool hub. Fly line to backing and leader to fly line to leader/tippet can both be done with a nail knot. Most books on basic fishing will have a picture of this knot. If you purchased all your tackle from a fly shop, take it back to the shop and ask them to show you how to do it. Most will be happy to do it for you. If you got your tackle mail order, go to your local fly shop and purchase about $100  worth of additional tackle and than ask them to help you. There are are other knots you can use, but I find these knots east to tie. Good luck & Good fishing, — Dennis C. Aron Independent Representative #13921 Champion Fishing Co., Ltd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am just getting started in FF and I don’t know the best method for affixing my flyline to the reel.  Also, how do I attach the leader to the line?

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Benjamin,         Your local shop will do most of it for you and the other posts suggest the best knots for it but I just wanted to add that from your fly line, the first bit of mono is called the butt section and it’s the thickest diameter part of your leader.           It was suggested to me to have a short butt section from my line to my leader and have a loop at the end of it.  This way I can make the same loop on my leaders and change leaders forever without having to retie the nail knot at the end of the flyline.           Whoever at your local shop will probably be hip to the entire set up. Don’t ever be intimidated into NOT asking questions of these people, I’ve learned a lot from them. Good Luck, Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also, how do I attach the leader to the line?

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I am just getting started in FF and I don’t know the best method for affixing my flyline to the reel.  Also, how do I attach the leader to the line?

Ben, Spend some money on a good beginner fly fishing book. Try to find a copy of Dave Hughes "Fly Fishing Basics" for $12.95 (US$) – I happen to think it’s quite good. ISBN 0-8117-2439-5. Also, you don’t attach your fly line to the reel, you attach it to backing line which is attached to the reel. Backing goes around the reel spindle twice and is tied with a simple overhand knot and a second overhand knot at the end of the tag end. Pull this tight and the tag end overhand knot will catch in the first overhand knot that is tied around the backing line. Hard to write – easy to tie. NOTE: make sure you wrap the line onto the reel in the correct direction too. Adjust the drag pawls too. Use a nail-knot at the backing line /fly line point. If you are using a wt. forward fly line – make sure the correct end is attached to the backing material.Should be okay if left on the original spool until attaching it to the backing. (A DT line is double-ended so no mistake possible) Use a braided loop on the end of your fly line and form a loop in the end of your leader(s). A loop-to-loop connection allows leader change out quickly. Add some extra tippet material to the "fly" end of your leader and save buying lot’s of expensive leaders. Tight Lines, Don Burns Wishful collector of Gillums and Dickersons – owner of Montague, H-I and Heddons

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