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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations?   I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible. Thanks, Steve

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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations? I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible.

Any of the lakes around Mt. Bachelor such as Hosmer Lake, Elk Lake, Todd Lake and many others should be good for trout.  Great float tubing.  You also have the opportunity to fish the Deschutes River, a great spot, especially with a guide if you’re a first timer there..  For more info you might try Sunriver Fly Shop (541)593-8814 or Sunriver Guides and Outfitters (541)593-8247 both located in Sunriver, Oregon. Greg

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I’m going to be in Oregon in mid-August and would like to get in a day or two of fishing.  Does anyone have a suggestion for guides and locations?   I would love to try summer steelhead and trout if possible. Thanks, Steve

I stayed at Crystalwood Lodge in the Klamath basin about 4 years ago and had a great time.Their guides usually take you to the local rivers such as the Williamson or the Wood. I had a good success and I’m nowhere near an expert, but it is not a budget trip:). If "Marlin" is still guideing try to get him, Lloyd Heilbrunn

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Steve — If you want to fish for steelhead on the Deschutes in mid-August you will have be in north-central Oregon, about 90 miles from Bend and about 250 miles from Klamath Falls.  You will probably need a guide who fishes the mouth of the Descutes, although some fish will probably be as far south as Maupin by mid-August. Rob

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Can anyone recommend a good area to fish in the Myrtle Beach (Indian Wells) area. I’ll be down there the end of April. Last time I was down there I didn’t do any fishing but it seemed like access would be a problem to some promising looking areas. Thanks… Bill

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William, I’ve been gone from there since ‘92 and really don’t know what is now part of some monsterous resort but I used to access the salt marshes at Little River and down towards Murrells Inlet, Pauley’s, and Georgetown. at that time I did not fly fish at that time but when the tide was running right, usually had a good shot at redfish. There is a state park in Murrells Inlet which gave good access to the ocean if surf fishing is in your cards. Wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone recommend a good area to fish in the Myrtle Beach (Indian Wells) area. I’ll be down there the end of April. Last time I was down there I didn’t do any fishing but it seemed like access would be a problem to some promising looking areas. Thanks… Bill

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Thanks Wayne…Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – William, I’ve been gone from there since ‘92 and really don’t know what is now part of some monsterous resort but I used to access the salt marshes at Little River and down towards Murrells Inlet, Pauley’s, and Georgetown. at that time I did not fly fish at that time but when the tide was running right, usually had a good shot at redfish. There is a state park in Murrells Inlet which gave good access to the ocean if surf fishing is in your cards. Wayne Can anyone recommend a good area to fish in the Myrtle Beach (Indian Wells) area. I’ll be down there the end of April. Last time I was down there I didn’t do any fishing but it seemed like access would be a problem to some promising looking areas. Thanks… Bill

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Good story Mike, I often wondered how you got your expertise. Ernie Harrison

<snipped an good fish tail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Apparently as soon as I had left the table the gentleman who had been standing there watching all the time had asked him who I was, and whether I was one of the more well known dressers there.  My friend had told him that this was indeed the case, and that I would be back later to continue the demo. "Oh, I don’t need the demo", the gent replied, " I don’t know who the bloke is, but he must be a genius, I only showed him how to tie some of these patterns at my stall in the flea-market shortly before the show started, and he sat and tied them here even better and faster than I can, I was just amazed that someone can learn so fast", and he then left the scene. Mike Connor

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says… <Snipped for berevity Very heartening story… I spent the better half of the evening trying to tie a variant of the yellow stimulator pattern that looks a lot like the one a friend from work showed me. I now have a new foe to vanquish and elk hair is thy name!!! http://www.troutflies.com/flies/yellowstimulator.htm I also need to work on gauging how much to cut and put on. Also keeping it from sliding around is a real challenge! Needless to say I got tow four tied. Two abortive and two looking like frankenstiens brides… I need to start building up a good collection of good quality hackles. Trying to tie dry hackles with saddle feathers is making me mental. I am also deathly afraid of going into fly shops as I am spending altogether too much on gather supplies! Tonight I managed to improvise a dubbing twister from a garbage bag tie. It works but it aint pretty! I think I shall prevail upon Tom at work to show me that pattern again at lunch! I’d love to visit one of those shows. I’ll have to keep my eyes open when one comes around my area. — Michael Era

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NEED HELP WITH POWERED PARACHUTES January 22,1997 Hi Folks,         My wife and I need all the help we can get–ideas?-advise-tips, etc. We are planning an environmental expedition into some uncharted jungles of Central America.  After four expeditions over the last nine years of trying to reach this particular area on foot we are seriously considering the use of back pack powered parachutes.         First, perhaps a little of our background would be helpful.  We are forty and fiftyish and in reasonable shape. We are both professionals-my wife is an Arthur and amateur photographer and one the best bushpersons I have ever met. She grew up on a farm where her father taught her hunting, fishing, and trapping. I am not big into guns but I’ve seen her shoot a six inch pattern at thirty yards (with a 44 magnum revolver!)  I have degrees in education, English, and Industrial Technology.  I am a licensed pilot (SEL) and have flown a paraplane trike. Spelunking is a hobby and I worked as a commercial diver a few years back(definitely a youngmans job).  I’ve worked in Mexico, the Caribbean, and we lived full time in Central America for a couple of years recently. (Stayed as long as the money and the luck held out).  We are back here in the States, in suburbia, working our tails off try to save or raise the money to get back South of the border and back to our work.  We have a non-profit tax exempt scientific and educational corporation and our Federal   tax exempt status for those that donate to the cause(we can furnish the 501 forms for tax purposes). Staying as independent as possible we have financed most of our expeditions out of our own pockets. So, who are we and what do we do?  Even though the term is about a hundred years out of date, perhaps the US Ambassador was the closest when he introduced at a banquet as Explorers.  Believe it or not there are still a few places left on this Earth that are still uncharted and unexplored.           Now a little about our work.  The area that we have tried (unsuccessfully) to reach overland has only been mapped from the air and some of those photographs were taken by Charles Lindberg in the thirties! So the Topo maps that do exist are notoriously wrong.  While cutting our way into this area we have in the past taken GPS readings, and collected samples of unusual plant life. (There is one vine that when boiled tastes just like coffee and another that if beaten into a pulp and put into relatively still waters will stun the fish enough to bring them to the surface and then when you gotten what you need you pull the vine out and stir the waters and the other fish revive).  Any archaeological ruins that we come across we get coordinates (GPS) sometimes do preliminary surveys and report to the authorities when we come out.  We don’t dig or loot.  Our next expedition is planned for the dry season in 1998 (February through April).  We will establish a base camp accessible by road and fly out of it.  We are currently working on a drag net that can be deployed and opened in the air and then retrieved while still in the air.  We will use this for the collection of insects above the canopy and up the river and stream valleys where we can.  If the back pack powered chutes work as I hope they will we should be able to land and take off from sand bars, clearings etc.  I’ve flown the valleys in a Cessna and am well aware of the variable winds, especially ridge drafts.  After almost being inverted twice I got back to altitude (prayerfully at that).  However, mornings and evenings are often calm-so if you don’t get stupid you might get away with it.         Now for the real reason for this E-mail.  Many questions??  We are considering building our first unit to train on here in the States as we don’t have the finances for a new or used unit at this time.  Has anyone had any experience with a company called "Easy Up".  They offer plans and recommend sources for new and used equipment.  I have also heard that there were tandem units on the market.  Not that we would fly tandem, but it would add a great measure of safety if a parachute, engine, or pilot were disabled.  What about climbing radius after take off (I’m sure it varies with thrust and chute design). My weight should be at about two hundred and my wives about a hundred and thirty.         What about Corporate sponsorship.  Any ideas on fundraising? There will obviously be a video produced.  Anyone know of anyone that has a unit stored that they would like to take a tax write-off on (or am I dreaming). Or a Patron or person of means who would fund the project-They might get a new bug or plant species named after them-Yeah, I know doesn’t seem like much incentive does it.  We will consider taking a few folks with us, but at this point it would have to be on a voluntary basis with them picking up their own expenses.  Experience and attitude would also be a very important considerations.   Well, thanks for taking the time to read this.  If you can’t help please pass it along to someone who may have suggestions or ideas. Thanks, John

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Trevor, YOu could always try the news group rec.aviation.powerchutes. R. Williams – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – G’day I am looking for information on paramotoring. I can find plenty on paragliding but less or even nil on the powered para. Any info on clubs, competition or buying/selling would be appreciated especially in but not restricted to Australia . I travel to the USA and British Isles regularly with work too so any info from these countries would be welcome cheers Trev Mac —

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I suggest you to read Big Air ’s Accident Reports. There are a few Paramotor accident reports which can be benefitial to you. Regards, Kinsley Wong Big Air Paragliding http://www.web-partners.com/paragliding

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Hi Klaus, here is an other german paramotor pilot. Name here is Oscar and I am located near the city of Ulm. I fly a Fresh Breeze paramotor with Paratech wing…. Any other paramotor pilots from Germany here ??? Best regards, Oscar

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if you come to scotland try phil.

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if you come to scotland try phil.

I like that "Coudbusters" !

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Here’s another: http://www.poweredparaglider.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – G’day I am looking for information on paramotoring. I can find plenty on paragliding but less or even nil on the powered para. Any info on clubs, competition or buying/selling would be appreciated especially in but not restricted to Australia . I travel to the USA and British Isles regularly with work too so any info from these countries would be welcome cheers Trev Mac —

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G’day I am looking for information on paramotoring. I can find plenty on paragliding but less or even nil on the powered para. Any info on clubs, competition or buying/selling would be appreciated especially in but not restricted to Australia . I travel to the USA and British Isles regularly with work too so any info from these countries would be welcome cheers Trev Mac —

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zum Thema "Re: paramotor": anyone here who is paragliding with paramotor ? I flied more than one hundred times powered PG.  When you tried to fly by Powered PG, you should never use high performance PG because it is difficult to take off.  Additionally, the high performance PG is easy to collapse, sometimes recovery of collapsed PG is difficult in the case of powered PG.

I want to use my old parachute for flying with paramotor. I gave it back   to the company for changing to stronger ropes. For normal fly I want to buy a new modern high performance PG. I think that your have much experience in PG.  If not, you should learn how to control PG by PG flyer.  Powered PG is very intresting, but it is danger to fly without basic experience and knowledge about PG.  In Japan, there is one fatal accident in powered PG.  He was a ultralight flyer. Anyway, best way to safety flying is to learn how to control PG by PG (or Powered PG) flyer.

I spent lots of hours flying conventional PG, some hours Ultralight and in   past lots of hours soaring. But it is always a new experience to start flying in spring mfg KMW —   ,–.__,-.__,—-.__,-.__,–.  // Klaus Michael Weinreich

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Try this: http://hometown.aol.com/skybrake/brakeindex.html

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good innit? he’s a very clever man.

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anyone here who is paragliding with paramotor ? I have bought one, second hand, but I still have no experience at all with   flying this funny thing, although I have licence for Ultralight etc. mfg KMW

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Try     rec.aviation.powerchutes R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – G’day I am looking for information on paramotoring. I can find plenty on paragliding but less or even nil on the powered para. Any info on clubs, competition or buying/selling would be appreciated especially in but not restricted to Australia . I travel to the USA and British Isles regularly with work too so any info from these countries would be welcome cheers Trev Mac —

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Slainte ! MC

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If you had to list ten flies to fish Western North Carolina streams year round, what would you take- elk hair caddis(tan); royal wulff; female adams; kauffman’s royal stimulator; royal trude; parachute blue-winged olive; letort hopper; prince nymph; squirrel tail nymph; montana nymph; pheasant tail nymph. wayno

If I remember correctly (and it’s tough) PJ only used two.  A royal coachman and any old nymph as a dropper.   Makes life simple. Peter

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BTW, I’ll do my best to raise a glass to your health this weekend when some roffizen probates are in town….hell, I’ll do my best to raise a glass to each and every roffizen –waldo…takin’ liver pills

thank you sir.  I’ll toast you as well from the far fields of PA. Mark Faulkner

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If you had to list ten flies to fish Western North Carolina streams year round, what would you take-

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If you had to list ten flies to fish Western North Carolina streams year round, what would you take-

elk hair caddis(tan); royal wulff; female adams; kauffman’s royal stimulator; royal trude; parachute blue-winged olive; letort hopper; prince nymph; squirrel tail nymph; montana nymph; pheasant tail nymph. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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No Lt. Cahill, hare’s ear or terrestrials? Can you explain your selection understanding ten is a short number. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you had to list ten flies to fish Western North Carolina streams year round, what would you take- elk hair caddis(tan); royal wulff; female adams; kauffman’s royal stimulator; royal trude; parachute blue-winged olive; letort hopper; prince nymph; squirrel tail nymph; montana nymph; pheasant tail nymph. wayno

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No Lt. Cahill, hare’s ear or terrestrials? Can you explain your selection understanding ten is a short number.

    fly selection is darwinian. wayno

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If you had to list ten flies elk hair caddis(tan); royal wulff; female adams; kauffman’s royal stimulator; royal trude; parachute blue-winged olive; letort hopper; prince nymph; squirrel tail nymph; montana nymph; pheasant tail nymph.

Wayno, quit usin’ your toes to count to ten. That extra one down on the end gets you in trouble every time. A most excellent list, but some would make room in the top 10 for a yellow humpy. — Ken Fortenberry

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Who? Darwin? You gonna’ listen to your friends or to the trout? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No Lt. Cahill, hare’s ear or terrestrials? Can you explain your selection understanding ten is a short number.     fly selection is darwinian. wayno

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If you had to list ten flies to fish Western North Carolina streams year round, what would you take-

An experts

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Hello,     My name is Bernard Vetter, and I am a watercolorist who specializes in painting fly fishing scenes. I would like to invite members of the group to visit my web sites: www.ourartgallery.com/vetter and www.artcrawl.com/bernardvetter.html I would appreciate any comments that you might like to send to me. Although the photos that I sent to the sites for scanning came from the same rolls of film, the scanning quality varied from one site to the other.     I love fly fishing, and I find that people who enjoy the sport are really great.     Thanks     Bernard Vetter

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Hello,     My name is Bernard Vetter, and I am a watercolorist who specializes in painting fly fishing scenes. I would like to invite members of the group to visit my web sites: www.ourartgallery.com/vetter and www.artcrawl.com/bernardvetter.html I would appreciate any comments that you might like to send to me. Although the photos that I sent to the sites for scanning came from the same rolls of film, the scanning quality varied from one site to the other.     I love fly fishing, and I find that people who enjoy the sport are really great.

Welcome to the group Bernard. Hope you enjoy it. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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[rip...] Boulder: A prime reason to resume above-ground nuclear weapons testing.

What do you think Rocky Flats is there for ? — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks.

if you read john gierach, you would get a pretty good idea of what the area is like…it is his haunt and he does talk about it a lot… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks. Saw Hill Ponds, off 75th st. in Boulder.  Big bluegill and lots of bass, some very large.  I know it ain’t trout, but the panfish action will be great this time of year.  Tell him to walk to the back ponds. JE

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: I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor : Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have : any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information : would be appreciated.  Thanks. Right under the library downtown.  I believe I’ve seen that big fish from Vail there… I guess it makes road trips.  (Will I ever stop flogging this horse?) — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor : Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have : any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information : would be appreciated.  Thanks. Right under the library downtown.  I believe I’ve seen that big fish from Vail there… I guess it makes road trips.  (Will I ever stop flogging this horse?)

If you go under the library, or downstream at the observatory, make sure it is well after midnight…those literary types get all bent out of shape when you creel a couple for dinner in front of them… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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: I have a good friend who is going to the Boulder, CO, area around Labor : Day and would like to know what’s available for fly fishing.  Do you have : any information on rivers/streams and guide services?  Any information : would be appreciated.  Thanks. Right under the library downtown.  I believe I’ve seen that big fish from Vail there… I guess it makes road trips.  (Will I ever stop flogging this horse?) If you go under the library, or downstream at the observatory, make sure it is well after midnight…those literary types get all bent out of shape when you creel a couple for dinner in front of them…

I would not try to smoke any tobacco products either.  They get pretty testy about that shit.  Noone will bug you if you decide to spark up a Fat One:-) though, in fact they may want to join you. I would also avoid taking dumpsters, lighting them on fire, and then rolling them down The Hill at policemen. You can, however, get away with murder in that town.  If you do kill someone, the police will posture for months and then bust some poor homeless guy on drugs instead. Boulder: A prime reason to resume above-ground nuclear weapons testing. </chaz

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I have to agree with Keith, it is better to check all of the facts before sending replys.  I have fished the bighole for 11 yrs and live in Idaho where many mines have conducted operations with little or now adverse effect on the watersheds.  Much more damage comes from new home developement such as on the north shore of Henry’s Lake.   Doug

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I have to agree with Keith, it is better to check all of the facts before sending replys.  I have fished the bighole for 11 yrs and live in Idaho where many mines have conducted operations with little or now adverse effect on the watersheds.  Much more damage comes from new home developement such as on the north shore of Henry’s Lake.  

Yes, there are some good mining operations, but much mining is very environmentally harmful.  When you consider that mining companies pay next to nothing for the privilege, it’s especially disturbing.  There’s a reason that Butte, MT and the Clark Fork River constitute one of the largest Superfund sites in the U.S., compliments of Anaconda. John Woodling Sacramento, CA

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[text indicating belief in the Big Hole Big Lie SWALLOWED by  the Big Bit Bucket] Sandy just carved another notch in his 6WT computer keyboard. Nice catch ! TimW

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. . snip . Reading this is gut wrenching, to say the least. As I read this, I think . of the battle raging over the proposed mine at the headwaters of Penns . Creek. I have fished both the Big Hole and Penns, and they are both the . kind of waters trout fisherman dream of. I’m sure the management of the . mining company responsible for the Big Hole tragedy assured the local . sportsmen that no harm would come of the watersheds as a result of their . work. Alas, a promise made on paper will not prevent the kind of mishap Jennifer, Please check your facts before you spout off.  Sandy Pittendrigh’s Big Hole tragedy was a farce.  It did not happen.  Regular readers of rec.outdoors.fishing.fly are aware of this.  You owe an apology to the mining company you wrongly lambasted.  Do I really expect one?  No, self-proclaimed "enviromentalists" rarely have that level of integrity. – Keith

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You’re seriously believing this nonsense?  Mail me a copy of the article from the newspaper and THEN I’ll believe you. Jeff

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Yesterday’s Billing’s Gazette and Bozeman report the incredible loss

of the Bi g Hole River, due to a mining accident at Maidenrock. Miners at the

Rhoene Polen c talc mine, at Maidenrock canyon, apparently broke into a heretofore unknown labyrinth of cavernous, underground limestone chambers. The sudden

change in a ir pressure apparently caused an explosion, which collapsed the roof of

the limes tone chamber, and swallowed the entire flow of the Big Hole river,

approximately 5 miles upstream from Melrose.    Montana State University researchers estimate it will take 3-5

months for t he river to fill this massive underground cave system, and then resurface again, somewhere downstream, near Twin Bridges. Twelve to fifteen miles of

the Big Ho le river, it appears, will be permanently lost to this insideous

underground flow ! Sandy: I suppose I should say thanks for the information, but it somehow sticks in my throat.  I have fished in that area several times in recent years, and was planning to return this September.  Any further information on this devastating event would be appreciated for those of us here in the east.              Mark Faulkner Reading this is gut wrenching, to say the least. As I read this, I think of the battle raging over the proposed mine at the headwaters of Penns Creek. I have fished both the Big Hole and Penns, and they are both the kind of waters trout fisherman dream of. I’m sure the management of the mining company responsible for the Big Hole tragedy assured the local sportsmen that no harm would come of the watersheds as a result of their work. Alas, a promise made on paper will not prevent the kind of mishap which has taken down this great river. To those of you living and fishing this part of the Bighole, our hearts go out to you. To those of us living and fishing Penns Creek, I say this; let this be a lesson to all of us. The mining company doesn’t give a rats ass about the watershed or the sportsman who call it a friend. Let this serve as a call to arms. As much as I would love to kick somebody (Gov. Ridge) right in the nuts over this, it would do no good. The battlefield will be a court of law, and that requires money. The Orvis Company is spearheading the defense of Penns Creek. Any contributions to the defense fund sent to the following address will be matched by Orvis. Make check or money order payable to; Penns Valley Conservation Association and send it to; Penns Valley Defense Fund C/O Orvis, Historic Route 7A Manchester VT, 05254 Any donation over $200 is tax deductible. Thanx for the bandwidth Tom

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Anybody know some goods spot in and around Ottawa Canada for some trout fly fishing. Luc Nocente — Luc Nocente

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Ottawa is more a bass/pike hotspot than trout, but I’ve heard that there are now Brown trout in the Ottawa River (Quebec has been stocking them). The flyfishing for bass in the Ottawa is good, and for that alone is worth bringing your rod alone. Try the rapids from Britannia Filtration plant downstream. The Ottawa is a big river and can be fearsome in high water.

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Ottawa is more a bass/pike hotspot than trout, but I’ve heard that there are now Brown trout in the Ottawa River (Quebec has been stocking them).

Confirmed:  a 3 or 4 lb. brown was reported taken at Britannia 13 months ago, and I got a 10-inch brown during the summer.  Local folklore has it that, because the Ottawa River is the frontier between Ontario and Quebec provinces, fisheries managers are not supposed to stock it:  but one or more managers dumped surplus trout there just to see if they could survive and reproduce — which my 10-inch fish suggests is possible. The flyfishing for bass in the Ottawa is good, and for that alone is worth bringing your rod alone. Try the rapids from Britannia Filtration plant downstream. The Ottawa is a big river and can be fearsome in high water.

This is why early fly fishing has been poor this year.  When the water warmed up enough, hydro dams upstream were opened to run off extra snow melt or rain, and the good spots are now too deep and the current too strong.  Fly fishing for bass is best done wading (and from July one can wade wet i.e. in shorts and sneakers).  Anywhere with exposed rocks and mixed current and quiet water can be good.  There are reliable hatches at sundown half the time in July-August, when besides bass other species can be taken e.g. mooneye and walleye. —  |          Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Rd., Carlsbad         |  |        Springs, Ont., Canada K0A 1K0; tel: (613) 822-0734       |  |  "What I’ve always liked about science is its independence from |  |  authority"–Ontario Science Centre (name on file) 10 July 1981 |

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Hello Donald Please reply here and in e-mail,I’m curious if this get’s out…sorry folks just a test for the moment Tight Lines Dale Kent … I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet! |Fidonet:  Dale Kent 1:351/400

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Rather than the Ottawa River, I’d suggest the Mississippi (the *other* one, in the Ottawa suburbs). Nice smallmouth, pleasant surroundings. — 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (604) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (604) 368-9341

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: Rather than the Ottawa River, I’d suggest the Mississippi (the *other* : one, in the Ottawa suburbs). Nice smallmouth, pleasant surroundings. : — Speaking of which, I was FFishing the Mississippi just below a set of rapids/waterfalls and could *see* some really nice smallmouth, but dammit all I could catch were lots of rockbass. I mean, the rockbass were *fun* but I was getting really frustrated with the smallies. Now, I was using a wooly bugger for a while, brown and black, and then changed to smaller nymphs, and kept catching the panfish, but no bass. Sigh. Still, the spin casters were catching *nothing* so I was happy. — Chris Pawlowicz, Research Engineer Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

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Hi My name is Matt I am an acomplished fisherman (meaning im not some young dork who doesn’t know a thing about fishing but brags cause he spent a lot on his gear) any way I am doing a project for school on fishing around the world if you could get any info to my address at home by tonight I would greatly appreciate it……and if anyone needs help or advice on fishing in nothern and central New Jersey or eastern Penn I would be happy to give it out…. Thanks in advance, Matt, age 16

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any way I am doing a project for school on fishing around the world if you could get any info to my address at home by tonight I would greatly appreciate it……

In my day, Matt, we would wait unitl the morning the project was due before starting research. . . . –sean williams

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any way I am doing a project for school on fishing around the world if you could get any info to my address at home by tonight I would greatly appreciate it…… In my day, Matt, we would wait unitl the morning the project was due before starting research. . . . –sean williams

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I’m thinking of buying a Winston 9′ 6 weight rod. I’m interested in hearing peoples’ opinions about Winston rods. Does anyone know what the company means when they refer to "Winston action"?

I have a 9′ 2-piece 7 weight that I used for a week in Alaska (Wood- Tikchik State Park) last summer for rainbows, sockeye salmon, and arctic char.  The rod is a little slower than, say, a Sage, but it it really a pleasure to cast and especially to play fish with. It might not be as great for casting heavy or bulky flies in the wind, but it really is fun for most fishing.  A very distinctive feel and definitely plenty of muscle for fighting big fish. I also use that one a lot for bass bug fishing here in Iowa and just love it. Bob

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It might not be as great for casting heavy or bulky flies in the wind, but it really is fun for most fishing.  A very distinctive feel and definitely plenty of muscle for fighting big fish.

I love the Winston rods and use almost nothing else.  The one occasion to go to something stronger, however, is, as suggested, for bulky flies in the wind.  Other than that situation, however, the "Winston Action." is perfect for me. BTW, there has been thread on the Flyfish listserve that would indicate that Winston rods have a very broad and loyal following. Lyman Hughes                                               Dallas, TX                                               Ennis, MT

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I have two Winston Rods—they are "sweet."  I have an 8′ 3wt made from 1st generation graphite and an 8 1/2" 3 pc. 5wt.  The 3wt is my small stream, light action tool. It excels at small flies, fine tippets in the close to medium ranges, is ultra lite in the hand and will lay up to 65′ with a little effort…still pinpoin acuracy. My 5wt is for bigger streams. I prefer the 8 1/2" legnth over the 9′ for personal reasons.  The im6 graphite is a little faster, but is "sweet" to cast.  It feels so light in my hand and smooth on the cast it is a joy to use. I’ve fly fished for 18 years and these rods are the ones I’ll use till my last fishing day.  The comsetics, the Winston action are as allthe other posts describe.  Winston is the epitome of what a quality production rod should be and expect to pay dearly for it…then enjoy!  

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I’ve owned several winston rods, my 9′6" 6 wt.Graphite I, is my favorite. My idea of the "winston action" is a slower to moderate action rod, i.e. it bends deeply into the butt section. I find for me this action is the best. Your feeling on casting a rod is the most important element in buying any rod.

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I’m thinking of buying a Winston 9′ 6 weight rod. I’m interested in hearing peoples’ opinions about Winston rods. Does anyone know what the company means when they refer to "Winston action"?

Hmmm…I’m an incredible Winston bigot (consider yourselves warned!) – I own three of their rods and am eyeing a fourth (all of them are for freshwater use) – and yet I’m not certain how to convey the feel of their rods…But I’ll give it a go… First of all, they’re incredibly smooth, from tip to butt – a true progressive taper using IM6 graphite with resultant progressive action (using the standard jargon, I guess most freshwater Winston rods would be "medium/fast" to "medium" – though some of their short rods might be considered "fast"). A Winston loads easily enough to make a short cast, but has enough backbone to support you on those wind-fighting long reaches. Such are the hallmarks of a well designed progressive action rod… Speaking of the tip: Winston is known for their tip designs, and I don’t believe you’ll find a rod made by anyone that will protect fine tippets better than a Winston. I have no fear in using 7x-8x tippets in low/clear water situations even when I know there’s a good chance that a 3 or 4 pound landlock salmon or wild brookie will latch on. I’ve landed large fish using fine tippets under tough conditions that I just *know* were kept on the line as much because of the rod as my abilities. (Hey – that’s the way it should be – we’re partners! ;^) Regarding more aesthetic qualities: I defy anyone to show me an off-the-shelf rod that is better appointed and finished than any model Winston you might look at. They’re simply beautiful. You won’t find a cheap plastic winding check on a Winston, or aluminum or steel reel seats with PhonyWood ™ inserts – they use German Silver and exotic wood components instead. They use high grade cork for their grips, and high quality strippers, snakes, and tiptops. First rate stuff…And you’ll never find a rod wrapped better than a Winston – a flawless emerald green jewel… Besides my Winston collection, I also own a couple of GLoomis IMX rods (for AtSal & striper/bluefish/false albacore use), a Sage RPL (bassin’ and schoolies), and a full custom built on a GLoomis IM6 blank (backup trout/landlock rod). All very fine rods, well designed/manufactured for the tasks I use them for. But they don’t give me the same sheer pleasure to hold and cast as the Winstons do… If you’re looking for blinding speed – pass on the Winstons and get a GLoomis IMX. Otherwise, spend some time at your local shop’s "casting pool" (be it grass, asphault, or *real water* ;^) with a Winston… /dave (geeze – he sure does get carried away, don’t he? ;^) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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I’m thinking of buying a Winston 9′ 6 weight rod. I’m interested in hearing peoples’ opinions about Winston rods. Does anyone know what the company means when they refer to "Winston action"?

I use the three-piece 9′ #6 model and like it better than any I have tried.  Three years ago it was the only three-piece model I could find and that is what I wanted so I cast it and it felt so nice that I saved my pennies and bought it.  Now there are other three-piece rods on the market.  In this price range you should try Scott too.  I could not tell the difference in action from the two-piece but if you hike or travel at all this is a real convenience. The Winston action is a soft tip with a medium, fully flexing butt, more reminiscent of classic cane than most of today’s fast stiff graphite. I mostly cast big loops because I use long leaders and often use two-fly rigs and big loops prevent tangling and this rod does that very well.  It also loads easily at short distances. If you fish a very tight crisp loop or need to cast for long distance as the primary consderation, you will like the stiffer rods better. Last year I hooked a steelhead over ten pounds unexpectedly on this rod, and had to try to horse the thing back up past a rock he had gone around and beyond.  I knew this was really abuse but held the reel tight and really put a bend in it, and found it had the power to do this (unfortunately later in the game the leader parted at the abrasion). I think the best word for Winston action is lively. Whether casting or playing fish, it feels springy and sensitive. I wholeheartedly recommend their rods. Mark Vinsel Visit my gallery: http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.HTML

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Have use Winstons for 15 years.  Fell they are the best rods onmarket.  Can handle a King Salmon on my 8 wgt.  Nice beause between a 4wgt and 10 wgt, they all cast the same. — Gene Dobrzynski, Eagle River, Alaska

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I have two Winstons, one of which is a 9′0 for 6 wt. three pc. This is a great rod. Like most of the other people who have responded to your inquiry I have several other rods (including cane) which are used for various situations but for a production graphite rod I think the Winstons are in a class by themselves. Before I bought the 6 wt I tried a Sage SP+ in  a 5wt. with a Wulff 5/6 Triangle Taper line which was very nice. Ultimately the Winstons superior aesthetics and more subtle action (the Winston Action!) tipped the scales in favor of the Winston. If you have already bought the Winston (or whatever rod you selected) enjoy it. If not, good luck withyour decision Bill Sadataki

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I’m thinking of buying a Winston 9′ 6 weight rod. I’m interested in hearing peoples’ opinions about Winston rods. Does anyone know what the company means when they refer to "Winston action"?

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"I’m thinking of buying a Winston 9′ 6 weight rod. I’m interested in hearing peoples’ opinions about Winston rods. Does anyone know what the company means when they refer to "Winston action"?" I am familiar withthe Winston rods.  I own a couple (including the 9′ 6wt) and have made several rods from Winston blanks for others.  Here are my thoughts. I very much like the Winston  rods.  The "Winston action" is a slow action that is true for all IM6 graphite rods, but is particularly smooth in the Winstons.  My favorite rods are the Winstons in the lighter weights.  The ones that I have made have been three weights.  Perfect mid-range, spring creek, dry fly rods.  O secondary importance, but also nice, is the fact that the deep green rods are absolutely beautiful. Two words of caution.  The softer action carries into the heavier rods as well.  this makes a 6wt a very nice rod for longer distances or a little wind when a lighter rod just won’t cut it.  But if you have a heavy wind, the "Winston action" just isn’t strong enough.  If you need an IMX, the IM6 just won’t do the job.  So if you are planning on getting the 9′ 6wt for heavy wind conditions, I would caution against it. Second, Winston just switched to its own factory for the manufacture of its blanks.  Before now, the blanks came from Loomis to Winston specs.  I assume (and have been assured by people at the factory) that the action of the blanks made by Winston will be the same action as the ones from Loomis.  Time will tell, but I have already made one rod with the new blanks, and it was perfect. (BTW, if you are near or in Twin Bridges, MT, go by the Winston factory.  Thepeole are very friendly and wil be glad to show you around.) Finally, although I am a big fan of the Winstons, you should try out any rod that you are considering buying if you are not familiar with the action.  What is right for one person may not be right for another. Good luck,                                               Dallas, TX                                               Ennis, MT

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