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http://taggart.glg.msu.edu/gyro/gbee.htm Free Plans Opps, Documentation

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Strongly advise joining the Popular Rotorcraft Association.  Their magazine keeps you current with whats going on in the autogyro business.  Their website is www.pra.org. Stu Fields

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any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

I see your email at least is in the UK. You’re going to have to deal with the Populr Flying Association (PFA) which has been delegated the authority to certify experimentals there. The CAA takes only a broad interest. Unlike the US and Canada where you can literally put wings on a fishing boat or a parachure wing on a Honda motorbike and register it if you haven’t done a shoddy job building, the PFA wants to see approved designs. Not sure if the Gyrobee and its relatives are blessed by PFA. You might be left with the choices of using a kit the PFA has already approved, or negotiating the forest of PFA approval on your own. (I have never done this — I’m in the US — so I dunno if it’s easy or hard. You certainly CAN do it because quite a few homebuilt designs originate in Britain, but it seems like there are not as many as from other Western nations). Anyway, the PFA is a good place to start with anything experimental-aviation related in (what I assume to be) your area. Somebody there will be able to definitively answer your questions. cheers -=K=- Rule #1: Don’t hit anything big.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe) I see your email at least is in the UK. You’re going to have to deal with the Populr Flying Association (PFA) which has been delegated the authority to certify experimentals there. The CAA takes only a broad interest. Unlike the US and Canada where you can literally put wings on a fishing boat or a parachure wing on a Honda motorbike and register it if you haven’t done a shoddy job building, the PFA wants to see approved designs. cheers -=K=- Rule #1: Don’t hit anything big.

   Alfuk,    Another good place to search for info is at the "Fly Gyro! forums":    http://pub23.ezboard.com/btheflygyroforums    There is a UK specific forum there, and plenty of gyroheads to answer all of you questions.    "Gyro"Mike

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any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

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Check Raplh Taggart’s Gyrobee first: http://taggart.glg.msu.edu/gyro/gbee.htm Cheers, Alex http://twistairclub.narod.ru – Light Rotorcraft in Russia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

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The author made it sound as though anybody with an ounce of sense could catch trout on a fly rod, and it was with that optimism that I had my brother’s rod tip repaired, borrowed a pair of rubber waders from my company’s field dept., and gave it a try.   The author was correct, and I did in fact catch a trout that day, following his advice. . . .  This sound familiar to anybody?

I cannot help with author or title, but run parallel except that I still have the book. 1.  In or before 1967, browsing as usual among second-hand books, I was attracted by Ray Bergman’s Trout (even though I fished seldom, after a summer in northern Ontario) so bought it. 2.  In or about 1970 a girlfriend bought a new car and on delivery wanted a longish trip:  so we drove from Ottawa towards Lake Placid, which I had heard of as a tourist destination: and stopped at a pretty waterfall just beyond the village.  A bronze plaque told us this was the Ausable River and I remembered reading about it in Bergman as famous for trout. 3.  Before the end of the year I got a $9.99 Japanese bamboo rod at the local Canadian Tire store, we borrowed a camping outfit (i.e. squashed an 8×12 ft. canvas tent into the back of a Beetle) and I had landed my first trout on a #14 BWO about 100 ft. upstream of the Hwy. 86 bridge. I could show you the spot to within two feet. I still treasure the book. — Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)

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I can’t remember what it was, so I thought I’d tap the remaining memories of this crowd to see if my description shakes out a title & author.   See, I’d been a spin fisherman for a long time; but when my younger brother left town, he sort of bequeathed to me an old HI glass fly rod.   In some coming together of the cosmos, I picked up a copy of a book on fly fishing one day and began reading.   The author made it sound as though anybody with an ounce of sense could catch trout on a fly rod, and it was with that optimism that I had my brother’s rod tip repaired, borrowed a pair of rubber waders from my company’s field dept., and gave it a try.   The author was correct, and I did in fact catch a trout that day, following his advice. The book itself was not a long or excessively technical book IIRC, and one feature about the book that stands out in my mind was his opinion that streamers were the ticket to make any newbie successful.  (My first was on a little rainbow trout streamer.)   I’ll be darned if I can remember the name of either the book or the author, though. This sound familiar to anybody? Joe F.

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after two years of research and fishing i can now say with some authority,that yes,thick lip mullet,and golden grey mullet can be tackled on fly gear. i personally took numerous fish to 5lb 10oz last season here in Jersey (channel islands). we fish a place here on the south east that is best described as a tidal saltwater wetland. tides are large and racey,and they cannot be fished unless local knowedge is available. they behave much like bonefish,but with some marked differences.water temp, wind etc all playing a big factor,like with most species. I have read here that people have tried and failed with this species,but rest assured it can be done,and repeated. I`ll keep you all updated,with catch reports throughout the current season. — Keith.

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Keith: If you had asked two years ago I coulda saved you the time. Floridians (those in the know) been catching mullet by cast net, seine, spinning tackle, and fly for a long time. Fact is in the old days they were a staple here. I’ve personally caught many with spin and fly. They are running little buggers and will come close to stripping all your backing off just as quick as you can set. Don’t know how it is now but they used to bunch up at the spill way after the rodman dam was built. (thats in the Oklawaha river before it empties into the St.Johns across from Buffalo Bluff near seven sisters islands just a tad south of Palatka. John Popp in Sanford Fl.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – after two years of research and fishing i can now say with some authority,that yes,thick lip mullet,and golden grey mullet can be tackled on fly gear. i personally took numerous fish to 5lb 10oz last season here in Jersey (channel islands). we fish a place here on the south east that is best described as a tidal saltwater wetland. tides are large and racey,and they cannot be fished unless local knowedge is available. they behave much like bonefish,but with some marked differences.water temp, wind etc all playing a big factor,like with most species. I have read here that people have tried and failed with this species,but rest assured it can be done,and repeated. I`ll keep you all updated,with catch reports throughout the current season. — Keith.

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Hi John, What kind of flies and how do you fish for the mullet? aloha, Fred E. Nakaguma Aiea, Hawaii – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keith: If you had asked two years ago I coulda saved you the time. Floridians (those in the know) been catching mullet by cast net, seine, spinning tackle, and fly for a long time. Fact is in the old days they were a staple here. I’ve personally caught many with spin and fly. They are running little buggers and will come close to stripping all your backing off just as quick as you can set. Don’t know how it is now but they used to bunch up at the spill way after the rodman dam was built. (thats in the Oklawaha river before it empties into the St.Johns across from Buffalo Bluff near seven sisters islands just a tad south of Palatka. John Popp in Sanford Fl.

– Fred E. Nakaguma Aiea, Hawaii

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Keith: If you had asked two years ago I coulda saved you the time. Floridians (those in the know) been catching mullet by cast net, seine, spinning tackle, and fly for a long time. Fact is in the old days they were a staple here. I’ve personally caught many with spin and fly. They are running little buggers and will come close to stripping all your backing off just as quick as you can set. Don’t know how it is now but they used to bunch up at the spill way after the rodman dam was built. (thats in the Oklawaha river before it empties into the St.Johns across from Buffalo Bluff near seven sisters islands just a tad south of Palatka. John Popp in Sanford Fl.

My thoughts exactly regarding line catching.  Heck, for years, they were considered the worst of trash fish, from Mississippi around and down, even to the point of racial slurs.  Plus, in oyster season (cold weather), keep a few, gut them and slow smoke them head-on, bone-in over a hickory or equivilent (fruitwoods aren’t my favorite here) fire.  Then flake the flesh (no skin) and mix with cream cheese (about 1 to 1), Lea and Perrin (Worchestershire), thyme, salt, pepper, and lemon juice, and serve with Melba, Carr’s, or other firmer crackers and cold dry white wine. Yum, boy… R

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Ok,Ok,OK, now that we know they can be caught…tell us what flies to use!! Very frustrating when fishing and see a 6-9 pounder jump and there is nothing I can do to hook it. Chuck

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Ok,Ok,OK, now that we know they can be caught…tell us what flies to use!! Very frustrating when fishing and see a 6-9 pounder jump and there is nothing I can do to hook it. Chuck

here you go. The answer is neutral density. as you know mullet sift through sand and mud,and get their heads down to feed,and this is also true of our golden grey mullet. these fish operate on the very edge of the tide,sometimes in 5-6 inches of water,so you actually cast back to the shore,from maybe 75 feet,so as not to spook the fish or shoal. the fly is cast approx 5-6 feet in front of the feeding pattern, and this is something which is learned,as on different tides the fish often take different routes toward shore. but to cut a very long story short,a well presented fly in the size 10 and smaller size range is best. Bent back,and using a basically dusky dirty pink,body of wool,with plastic bead chain eyes,and with a trigger colored tail. i cannot really get more specific at this stage,but presentation,seems more important than shape,and color seems to be a factor also. in water thats less than 6 feet a red tail is effective,but in very shallow water a lime green tail is king. throughout the year,i`ll get the patterns standardised and publish them. along with the techniques required foer each fly. I know you americans loathe the mullet somewhat,but they are indeed a worthy quarry,in fact as hard to catch as any permit. I know,cause i`ve caught both,and they can be very very frustrating. — Keith.

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Ok,Ok,OK, now that we know they can be caught…tell us what flies to use!! Very frustrating when fishing and see a 6-9 pounder jump and there is nothing I can do to hook it. Chuck

Well, maybe I misunderstood Mr Popp, but when I’ve caught them or seen them caught, it was by accident while fishing for something else.  I have no idea, other the a cast net, (when we want a couple to smoke ourselves ((Rather than buying)), we’ll carry a net while floundering) what one would use SPECIFICALLY to catch them.  I guess use a shrimp or streamer and pretend you’re after redfish or striped bass….a bone pattern and pretend you’re after bones….<G? R

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good advice SNIPPED for bw.. I know you americans loathe the mullet somewhat,but they are indeed a worthy quarry,in fact as hard to catch as any permit. I know,cause i`ve caught both,and they can be very very frustrating. — Keith.

I’ll be damned!  I know of many old-timers that would be (be)mused…Fly-fishing specifically for mullet…hey, fishing is fishing, and this sounds fun, plus you can eat the catch…The only thing I can add is the above-mentioned pretense of being after game fish, as that usually insures at least one or two…<G.   One thought, however, is possible that we are talking about different species of fish?  I know of white and striped, but not golden, plus your mention of "hard to catch as any permit."  Your "mullet" isn’t some form of Pompano, is it? TC, R

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Catching mullet on a fly is easily accomplished by chuming them with small bread balls and using small white/grey flies to immitate the bread balls. It is true that large mullet will take line, but they tire very quickly and are not at all like a bonefish. Bob E. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – after two years of research and fishing i can now say with some authority,that yes,thick lip mullet,and golden grey mullet can be tackled on fly gear. i personally took numerous fish to 5lb 10oz last season here in Jersey (channel islands). we fish a place here on the south east that is best described as a tidal saltwater wetland. tides are large and racey,and they cannot be fished unless local knowedge is available. they behave much like bonefish,but with some marked differences.water temp, wind etc all playing a big factor,like with most species. I have read here that people have tried and failed with this species,but rest assured it can be done,and repeated. I`ll keep you all updated,with catch reports throughout the current season. — Keith.

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Catching mullet on a fly is easily accomplished by chuming them with small bread balls and using small white/grey flies to immitate the bread balls. It is true that large mullet will take line, but they tire very quickly and are not at all like a bonefish. Bob E.

Ah,yes you can catch mullet like this,but is it really fly fishing ?. i think not. you could also toss a hand grenade at the mullet,and stun them,walk on over and scoop them up in your hand. Unfortunatly,this would not be too much fun,for me or the mullet. I`m actually taking a purists view,that fly caught fish should be just that.Fly caught without the assistance of chum,or any other aid. One rod,one fly,one fish. At least thats the way i like to do it. Also in no way would i compare the fighting qualities to that of bonefish. i was refering to the habits of the fish. but then again,on the right gear,which seems to be a 6#wt outfit,they display fine fighting ability. Its like comparing a stock rainbow trout that weighs 8lb,and last saw a man feeding it trout pellets,to the wild rainbow of the mountain stream that weighs only 2lb. ask yourself which would be the better and most rewarding catch ?. Thats why i choose to flyfish in saltwater here.Its never been done on my doorstep,and its all a new and very rewarding experience,no matter what the species. — Keith.

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Want to catch mullet on a fly without chuming? There’s a way to do that too. It’s much more challenging than the bread ball trick. Ask (better yet, hire) Capt. Steve Kantner from the Fort Lauderdale area. He’s the expert. Bob E. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catching mullet on a fly is easily accomplished by chuming them with small bread balls and using small white/grey flies to immitate the bread balls. It is true that large mullet will take line, but they tire very quickly and are not at all like a bonefish. Bob E. Ah,yes you can catch mullet like this,but is it really fly fishing ?. i think not. you could also toss a hand grenade at the mullet,and stun them,walk on over and scoop them up in your hand. Unfortunatly,this would not be too much fun,for me or the mullet. I`m actually taking a purists view,that fly caught fish should be just that.Fly caught without the assistance of chum,or any other aid. One rod,one fly,one fish. At least thats the way i like to do it. Also in no way would i compare the fighting qualities to that of bonefish. i was refering to the habits of the fish. but then again,on the right gear,which seems to be a 6#wt outfit,they display fine fighting ability. Its like comparing a stock rainbow trout that weighs 8lb,and last saw a man feeding it trout pellets,to the wild rainbow of the mountain stream that weighs only 2lb. ask yourself which would be the better and most rewarding catch ?. Thats why i choose to flyfish in saltwater here.Its never been done on my doorstep,and its all a new and very rewarding experience,no matter what the species. — Keith.

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Any small brown subsurface fly works. They are normally vegetarian but will on occasion think a fly floating vegetation. If it is slow going you can start a feeding frenzy with chicken feed. Take a handful, dip your hand in the water and mash the feed into a ball. Throw it out into the water. When the swirls are hot and heavy flip the fly into the melee and hang on. John Popp in Sanford Fl. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi John, What kind of flies and how do you fish for the mullet? aloha, Fred E. Nakaguma Aiea, Hawaii Keith: If you had asked two years ago I coulda saved you the time. Floridians (those in the know) been catching mullet by cast net, seine, spinning tackle, and fly for a long time. Fact is in the old days they were a staple here. I’ve personally caught many with spin and fly. They are running little buggers and will come close to stripping all your backing off just as quick as you can set. Don’t know how it is now but they used to bunch up at the spill way after the rodman dam was built. (thats in the Oklawaha river before it empties into the St.Johns across from Buffalo Bluff near seven sisters islands just a tad south of Palatka. John Popp in Sanford Fl. — Fred E. Nakaguma Aiea, Hawaii

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When they are jumping they are ridding themselves of vermin and don’t give a fig for eating. Ever try to get a dog to do something in the middle of a flea scratch ? John Popp in Sanford Fl.

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SNIPPED Heck, for years, they were considered the worst of trash fish, from Mississippi around and down, even to the point of racial slurs

Funny isn’t it! – Same thing the world over. If we fished near a sewer outlet, we used to laugh about catching a "blind mullet". Cheers JK

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I will be fishing the Deshutes in Mid-Sept and would like some advice on flies that I can use for both Rainbows and Steelheads.  Thanks Tony

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Bring your standard dry and nymph boxes to cover mayflies etc Other folks will give you the lowdown. Ive just two suggest ions: 1. Crayfish, whatever pattern including G.P. 2. The Kaufman (www.kman.com) series ie, Freight train, Coalcar, Max canyon, signal lite etc. These were designed on the Deschutes. Its the kind of thing that independents do and Orvis doesn’t, and hasn’t for 60-70 years.  The Burlap is also a Deschutes standard. There’s also an independent  fly shop at Maupin if you go in at that side. Also don’t ignore the approach from the Columbia side. Dave

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I will be fishing the Deshutes in Mid-Sept and would like some advice on flies that I can use for both Rainbows and Steelheads.  Thanks Tony

–A fly that will catch both rainbows and steelhead is a weighted black wooley bugger.  If your going just for steelhead use something with purple in it, my favorite is a freight train.  For trout I like a elk hair catis. Sharp Hooks, Pat http://www.holdzit.com Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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A good source of information is the Oasis Resort in Maupin, Oregon.  Mark and Marnie operate the business sale a ton of flies to the fishermen and glean the day-to-day knowledge. (541)395-2528.  I supply a few major Deschutes River guides flies and they pretty much stick to stimulators, caddis flies, Adams Parachutes, bead head Prince Nymphs, bead head Hare’s Ear Nymphs, and Bead Head Pheasant Tail Nymphs.  If you are looking for a good source of flies and discounted prices for your trip, give me a call/email. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be fishing the Deshutes in Mid-Sept and would like some advice on flies that I can use for both Rainbows and Steelheads.  Thanks Tony –A fly that will catch both rainbows and steelhead is a weighted black wooley bugger.  If your going just for steelhead use something with purple in it, my favorite is a freight train.  For trout I like a elk hair catis. Sharp Hooks, Pat http://www.holdzit.com Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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X-no-archive: yes Animal rights Internet lists are abuzz over the summer movie Instinct, which stars Anthony Hopkins as a primatologist.  Activists claim the film has a strong animal rights message. Don’t give this movie your money.

I saw the movie about ten days ago.  The animal rights message, as explicitly stated, is reasonable enough, i.e. the wanton slaughter of gorillas is a bad thing.  The subliminal messages which may come through have been the topic of a great deal of discussion here in the past month or so, but I don’t think the film has much to add, or that it will make a great impression on the general public.  There is, however, an even better reason to avoid this one; it’s a bad movie.  The cast looked pretty bored throughout and left me feeling much the same.  Maybe I’m just tired of people loping around in bad gorilla costumes.

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What is now left my friends? I ask  you humbly what may we discuss? without wishing to cause tension on the surface, perhaps the meniscus? If treated properly perhaps this odd phenomenon will disappear or sink, for those of you now quite alarmed, dont worry friends , it will float again with gink. The souls of fishes long departed may return at last to haunt us anglers all, the wanton bludgeoning we once practiced in our youth begin with age to pall, what can one do, how may one then, avoid such horrible and all consuming fate? one might perhaps then praise the fish in prayer, before placing it well spiced and heated on ones plate. Oh lord I fear that what I did perhaps was not quite right, and maybe not your wish but lord forgive me please, judge not harshly, remembering I used a  fly to catch this glorious fish. There are some who would have us think that fishing is an evil thing, in actual fact a heinous crime Or did you lord, when we were placed here,  think of us, and give us all these lumps of tasty protein packed in slime ? I may be wrong of course oh lord, and even far too proud in my assumptions of your wishes, in which case then I will surely land in hell, and burn forever as a punishment for bludgeoning all those fishes. Whatever lord, although it may be wrong, and not in accord with your decrees, this fascinating fishing with an artificial fly. If you dont mind, and nothing else occurs to change my mind, I

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Hi there.. I’m looking in to getting back into fly fishing (I used to do it a bit with my father a long time ago..).  Essentially, I have forgotten all that I was taught.. and I was wondering if anybody had suggestions on how I could best get back into the sport.. or what would be the best strategy for learning about the state of the sport nowadays? Thank you for whatever help you can give me.

     Assuming you live in Central Ontario, Bud Hoffman runs a good fly fishing school on the Beaver River, near Kimberley, Ont.  His number is/was 519 986-2351. Bud is a pretty level-headed guy, and easy to talk to and learn from.  The Izaak Walton Fly fishing Club can be reached at 905 855-5420.  It might help if you post what part of Ontario you fish. Good luck JIM WARD Twin Willow Farm "Home of good horses, fine whiskey and great wild trout"

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Hi I suggest you contact the Federation of Fly Fishers at 406-585-7592 and find out the location of an affiliate club near you. Then join and learn from a new friend. At this time of year many club sponsor fly fishing classes in preparation for the season so you timing is right on. If there is no club near you, ask the FFF about their educational booklet "Introduction to Fly Fishing" It cost $2.00 plus S&H and gives a lot of good info. Other FFF educational booklet that would help are on casting, entomology, and beginning fly tying. Al Hi there.. I’m looking in to getting back into fly fishing (I used to do it a bit with my father a long time ago..).  Essentially, I have forgotten all that I was taught.. and I was wondering if anybody had suggestions on how I could best get back into the sport.. or what would be the best strategy for learning about the state of the sport nowadays? Thank you for whatever help you can give me.

Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Hi there.. I’m looking in to getting back into fly fishing (I used to do it a bit with my father a long time ago..).  Essentially, I have forgotten all that I was taught.. and I was wondering if anybody had suggestions on how I could best get back into the sport.. or what would be the best strategy for learning about the state of the sport nowadays? Thank you for whatever help you can give me.

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Hi there.. I’m looking in to getting back into fly fishing (I used to do it a bit with my father a long time ago..).  Essentially, I have forgotten all that I was taught.. and I was wondering if anybody had suggestions on how I could best get back into the sport.. or what would be the best strategy for learning about the state of the sport nowadays? Thank you for whatever help you can give me.

Hi One of the best ways is to learn from a friend and I think you will find a few of those on this group and the fly tying group as well. Also you might consider joining a local club. I suggest you contact the Federation of Fly Fishers at 406-585-7592 and get the contact person in a local club. Then you can join and learn from a friend. If you have a specific question please post to this group or check my tips and tricks section at my web site. I think the address is in my signature. Good luck and welcome to the best legal drug available; flyfishing. Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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I went to the San Jaoquin last year and it was great!!  Go to any of the local FF stores and purchase a handful of Sierra Bright Dots 16 – 18.   Also and of the beadhead nymphs worked on dropper rigs with a large dry works great too.  The "river" is actually pretty narrow and shallow this time of year, so hip waders or lightweight waders are the best choices. As to how to get there, go towards the Mammoth ski area and take the road towards Devils Postpile.  Its a long and naroow road down to the valley.  You’ll past a small lake then turn right into the 1st or 2nd campground and the stream is right there.   You’ll catch a ton of small fish but they’ve pulled some nice browns out of there.  Good luck! Bill

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When You get to the area stop by any store and pick up a copy of the " Anglers guide to the Eastern Sierra" by John Barbier, its a good reference on most lakes and rivers in the area. If you dont mind the hike Lane lake is a good spot for cutthroat and brookies, The trail head starts at Levitt meadows and is well marked. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be taking a weekend trip to the Eastern Sierras next weekend (Sept. 13,14,15).  Any suggestions?  Plan to try the San Joaquin (I’ve never fished it, and am curious on how to get there, "hot" spots, and how to fish it), the Owens, and possibly the East Walker.  I’m a fly novice, so any specifics would be greatly appreciated.

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I will be taking a weekend trip to the Eastern Sierras next weekend (Sept. 13,14,15).  Any suggestions?  Plan to try the San Joaquin (I’ve never fished it, and am curious on how to get there, "hot" spots, and how to fish it), the Owens, and possibly the East Walker.  I’m a fly novice, so any specifics would be greatly appreciated.

Make sure that you stop by Hot Creek (which I would go to over the East Walker).  The lower section is a little easier than the upper (at least with my rod).  The San Joaquin is a blast!  You have to drive there  prior to 7 am–after that the only way to get in is via shuttle.  I think that the shuttle might stop by running by LaborDay(so you may be able to drive at any time now).  In  the higher Sierra creeks small Adams and caddis work well.  Even with no visible hatch theese small fish will rise. Have a great time up there! Aaron

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  Plan to try the San Joaquin (I’ve never fished it, and am curious on how to get there, "hot" spots, and how to fish it), the Owens, and possibly the East Walker.

Excellent selection.  As far as the SJR goes, the further from the road, the better.  Hike down to Rainbow Falls, fish the pool, go a bit further downstream and have a good time.  Just about any old small fly will work, dry or nymph–these fish will be hungry.  In the old days, you had to drive in before the bus service starts, 6 AM?  8 AM? The East Walker is tougher fishing, but bigger fish.  If you’re a confident wader, explore downstream from the bridge (a mile or so below Bridgeport Res.).  There’s a dirt road that cuts to the right, just at the bridge, follow it down a ways to where the terrain opens up a bit, and get on the water.  Above the bridge, the water is slower and flows through a meadow, below the bridge it’s more like pocket water.   If you’ve got a float tube, don’t miss fishing the lakes in the vicinity. Good luck, Anglerboy

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I will be taking a weekend trip to the Eastern Sierras next weekend (Sept. 13,14,15).  Any suggestions?  Plan to try the San Joaquin (I’ve never fished it, and am curious on how to get there, "hot" spots, and how to fish it), the Owens, and possibly the East Walker.  I’m a fly novice, so any specifics would be greatly appreciated.

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I will be taking a weekend trip to the Eastern Sierras next weekend (Sept. 13,14,15).  Any suggestions?  Plan to try the San Joaquin (I’ve never fished it, and am curious on how to get there, "hot" spots, and how to fish it), the Owens, and possibly the East Walker.  I’m a fly novice, so any specifics would be greatly appreciated.

You can get to the eastern section of the San Joaquin by taking the road out of Mammoth Lakes that runs down to Devil’s Postpile.  I don’t recall the number but it’s pretty easy to find on a map.

You might want to revaluate your choice of user id if you’re going to hang around in this newsgroup long. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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are there any schools that teach fishing with conventional tackle instead of pure flyrod?

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are there any schools that teach fishing with conventional tackle instead of pure flyrod?

I don’t know of any. I think that is why the fly fishing industry is doing so well.  There are lots of videos, books and schools on the sport of fly fishing. Most of the conventional tackle is sold by self service mass merchandizers like Walmart and Kmart. It is hard to get any service, help or fishing info from those stores. I have watched the tackle business change for the last 31 years that I have been involved in it. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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With the current thread on the exploding float tube (Float Tube Safety – Near Drowning) I was thinking about the recent thread about the guy who drowned. It appeared that he was stuck in an upside-down float tube. A few have said that they would try to flip their tubes and see if they can get out. Has anybody tried this yet? Jon Porter

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With the current thread on the exploding float tube (Float Tube Safety – Near Drowning) I was thinking about the recent thread about the guy who drowned. It appeared that he was stuck in an upside-down float tube. A few have said that they would try to flip their tubes and see if they can get out. Has anybody tried this yet? Jon Porter

Hi Jon, Several years ago I accidently flipped my tube.  Thank god I had two friends right next to me and we were only about six feet from the bank.   I don’t think I could have gotten out of the tube by myself.  I promptly bought a pontoon boat with a rowing system (Water Otter) and have never been in a float tube since. After getting the Water Otter I purposely turned it over a couple of times to see how difficult it would be to get out of it (again with friends present to help).  I was able to free myself rather quickly on both occasions.  I’ve never had an unscheduled roll over as it seems to be quite stable.  I suppose a roll over is possible if I was not paying attention and ran one of the pontoon up on a rock in faster water. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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The Rio Penasco between Cloudcroft and Artesia is a fine little trout stream.  Not very well known.  The Messilla Valley Flyfishers (a club from Las Cruces) manages the water and has negotiated access from owners.  Some really nice browns call it home. It should be within a couple of hours of El Paso.  We routinely fish it from Lubbock (4 hours in a fast car).  Give it a try it may be just what you want.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Xref: news.indirect.com rec.outdoors.fishing.fly:12250 Path: news.indirect.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.mega web.co m!newstf01.news.aol.com!uunet!prodigy.com!usenet Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 7 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap3.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 I’m interested to know if anyone has ever fished on the GILA RIVER or in the GILA Wilderness.  I’m not a novice fisherman, but I’m living in El Paso Texas now and the flyfishing possibilities are limited.  I’v heard of the GILA RIVER but have never fished.  If anyone has any info on where to go fishing in New Mex besides the San Juan River, your help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your help!

I’ve never fished the Gila, but their are many streams worthy of a trip north. Just a few of them are: The Jemez, The Guadalupe, and the San Antonio, all of them within an hour and a half of Albuquerque. Other streams further North are the Pecos, Rio Grande, and the Red River below the hatchery.

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I’m interested to know if anyone has ever fished on the GILA RIVER or in the GILA Wilderness.  I’m not a novice fisherman, but I’m living in El Paso Texas now and the flyfishing possibilities are limited.  I’v heard of the GILA RIVER but have never fished.  If anyone has any info on where to go fishing in New Mex besides the San Juan River, your help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your help!

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