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Help!  I am trying to get information (prices, contact inoformation, facilities, etc.) on Canada fishing lodges.  I am most interested in fly-in lodges that have good Northern Pike fishing.  I would appreciate any comments or suggestioins. Thanks, Irish Mike

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hey mike. dont know where you are specifically, but my site lists some canadian content you can look into if you like. fishing page has some links for lodges etc. didnt say where you were looking so can’t narrow it down for you bear wiith us we are in midst of fixin the site up a bit. Brian http://members.home.net/walleyewarrior/ Fishing, hunting, camping, golf, outdoor leisure, sports pages. Get all the latest news, message boards, send greeting cards and more. Your one stop source for all pro sports results and info on your favorite teams.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help!  I am trying to get information (prices, contact inoformation, facilities, etc.) on Canada fishing lodges.  I am most interested in fly-in lodges that have good Northern Pike fishing.  I would appreciate any comments or suggestioins. Thanks, Irish Mike

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http://www.scottlakelodge.com one of the very best and most innovative.

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www.sawmill-lodge.com Housekeeping and American Plans including 16 ft. Lund or Naden boats with 25 HP motors. All rates in Canadian Funds. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.scottlakelodge.com one of the very best and most innovative.

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Irish Mike Ask this same question in   (can.rec.fishing)     NG Im sure yule get some good response Try these for A start… http://www.outdoor-canada.com/news.html  http://www.sunsetcountry.net/

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Ever think of an outpost….. No dinner bell out there…… Eat when your hungry &…. Fish when your not sleeping…..

Canada 2001

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Minor Bay Lodge on Wollaston Lake, four 50"s caught this year says it all. www.minorbay.sk.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help!  I am trying to get information (prices, contact inoformation, facilities, etc.) on Canada fishing lodges.  I am most interested in fly-in lodges that have good Northern Pike fishing.  I would appreciate any comments or suggestioins. Thanks, Irish Mike

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Remember Herters? The case that finally dove them into bankruptcy was importing flies and fly tying material from India (and other countries).   I would think customs inspectors would see a red light when any thing like a feather showed up in the baggage of a traveler just back from India.  I don’t think the money saved would be worth the trouble.

I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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I think your right.  It just sounded like the tread was evolving to the point where the guy was going to bring a cotton sack full of feathers back with him. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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Yes,  I was just after the most basic materials to take,  just in case I couldn’t find them there. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think your right.  It just sounded like the tread was evolving to the point where the guy was going to bring a cotton sack full of feathers back with him. I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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Remember Herters?  The case that finally dove them into bankruptcy was importing flies and fly tying material from India (and other countries).   I would think customs inspectors would see a red light when any thing like a feather showed up in the baggage of a traveler just back from India.  I don’t think the money saved would be worth the trouble. There are shops around here that sell crafts from third world countries.  I have not checked them out because they are mostly "pottery and useless things that women buy"..  If they sold fly I would consider buying from them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore), What kind of fish? Since a good percent of the worlds commercially tied flies come from India there may be plenty of materials available there. — Charlie…

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

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What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water? George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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Mike, I would definitely take some marabou and chenille as this is relatively light and flat so is easily packed. Are you still up for the fly swap. E-mail me if any problems. Chris

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  

What kind of fish? Since a good percent of the worlds commercially tied flies come from India there may be plenty of materials available there. — Charlie…

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Are you Richard Cook ("RC")? I received an email from RC about a fly-swap, 12 contesters or something;  is this the fly swap you mention? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I would definitely take some marabou and chenille as this is relatively light and flat so is easily packed. Are you still up for the fly swap. E-mail me if any problems. Chris

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What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there.  However,  I shall also be in Madras (Chennai) for a while,  and that is by the seaside.  I have only ever spent 1 week in India.  I saw the most numerous and humongous rats in Bombay; I enjoyed the relative leafy calm of Bangalore,  and I withered in the August heat of Delhi. My first day in Bangalore saw some kites from my car window in the suburbs/rural fringes.  I asked my agent what they were,  and he said that they were large predatory birds looking for "things" in the waterways.  We soon came across a bridge over one of these waterways.  Naturally I was keen to take a peek over the bridge walls.  I’ve never seen such pollution ever in my life; the water was literally a flowing mass of human waste.  God only knows what the kites were after.  There certainly were no fish in this particular stream. I will be in India on and off for some time to come.  I have already given instructions to my agent to research the topic of "fly fishing in southern India".  A topic on my agenda for "taxi from airport talk" will most definitely be "where are we going fishing then?"  "what will we be after", and (hopefully) so on. Anyway,  I’ve opted for: pheasant tail hare’s mask peacock herl starling breast feathers some seal’s fur some badger cock hackles ginger too tinsel small amount of yellow bucktail 2 starling secondaries (one from either wing) french partridge breast feathers duck flank What else should I take?

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Michael, yes this is the fly swap. You sent me a message saying you wantyed to participate in the fly swap, sorry if this is not you. Please advise if you will be participating in the swap. Thanks Chris

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Must have been a while ago,  as I obviously must have forgotten.  Either that or bad memory.  Did I really mail a message saying I would?    Mmm, I’m getting to the point wherefrom  I forget how bad my  memory really is. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael, yes this is the fly swap. You sent me a message saying you wantyed to participate in the fly swap, sorry if this is not you. Please advise if you will be participating in the swap. Thanks Chris

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You should be able to obtain more than sufficient tying supplies in India. Quite a lot of stuff is on offer there for tying.  A friend of mine brought back several hundred quite excellent capes from India, but that was over twenty years ago.  Might be worth having a good look around though. Be careful about CITES regulations if you bring anything back with you. I would probably take along a hares mask, a starling skin, and get the rest there.  I assume you will be fishing in hill streams for brownies, I vaguely remember reading something about this a long time ago, but I have forgotten where. I also recall reading that many rivers in India are so badly polluted that fishing is more or less a waste of time. Might even be worth while to concentrate on getting some good tying materials, and forget the fishing.  I recall my friend telling me he only fished twice while he was there, once for trout, and once for something like perch, the rest of the time he wandered around collecting materials. Got some magnificent stuff too. Whatever, hope you have a nice time there. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend?

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Check import of natural materials.  For example, I think Japan bans peacock. Don’t know anything about India.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

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<< What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there. << Michael"   A quick search under Mahseer, a species I remember from reading books by colonial British sportsmen, found the following, among 80 other sites.  I have no connection to this or any other fishing site and relay it only as a possible source of info. "Mahseer Fishing Holidays in India with Chandertal Tours The finest freshwater fighting fish in the world? The Mahseer is regarded by many anglers as simply the best sport available, and the first time you hook a sizeable one you will discover why! Today, it can be found mostly in India and Burma." http://www.adventure-mag.com/Default.asp?Adventure=14 I think I recall that Mahseer are the largest members of the minnow family, running well past 100 lbs.  Legendarily, one needs deep sea gear to land them. Probably horsehooey; in Indian rivers today you probably are casting for Coney Island Whitefish.  The Mahseer in the picture at that site is pretty impressive though. Keep us posted. Glenn GKT

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<< What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there.   << Michael"   Forget my last post about a web site on Mahseer.  Look at the picture at this site http://www.indianwildlife.com/angling_mahseersouth.htm It would take a fish like that to convince me to stand half-naked in a river in India, and the sucker had better have fought like a tarpon.  Anyway, this site was under "southern" India and Bangalore.  Good luck. Maybe there are still exotic species tucked away in corners where people haven’t completely crapped up the world. GKT

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

Penicillin. And plenty of it.

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za Cheers Ari

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za

Rugby, braaivleis, sunny skies and Chevrolet…. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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I also catch butterfly peacocks in South Florida. The ultimate bait is, of course, small shiners. The best artificial I’ve used for them is a #5 Rapala floating fire tiger.  The colors seem to really get their attention.  It also works well for largemouth bass! Brady – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we have peacock bass in south fla. i use a number 13 rapala black or silver back, or a 1/8 oz stanly tadum willow leaf glod and silver spinnerbait with a zoom split tail trailer slow rolled. i found any good topwater bait , pop-r or zarra puppy gets them to. Cajunbass8 "THE TRUTH HURTS"

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If you would like to know what works in S. Florida, you might want to order a copy of Carlos Hidalgo’s "South Florida’s Peacock Bass ". He has suggestions for everything from live bait to flyfishing. It is locally available here in Ft. Lauderdale, but you might want to try my Freshwater Fishing Books page for a link to Amazon.com at http://inshore.com/bk-fresh.html . Jim Sawyer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a resident here in hawaii and I would like info on the best methods or lures to catch peacock bass. I haven’t been too successful in catching them and could use any suggestions on catching the butterfly strain of the peacock bass that are stocked here in hawaii. mahalo Lono

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(1)  Do any of you guys/gals who fish for Peacock Bass have pictures of them you could post? (2)  Has anyone ever ascertained if Peacock Bass could cross-breed with LMB bass or spots?  Or smallmouth? Warren Funk

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you would like to know what works in S. Florida, you might want to order a copy of Carlos Hidalgo’s "South Florida’s Peacock Bass ". He has suggestions for everything from live bait to flyfishing. It is locally available here in Ft. Lauderdale, but you might want to try my Freshwater Fishing Books page for a link to Amazon.com at http://inshore.com/bk-fresh.html . Jim Sawyer I am a resident here in hawaii and I would like info on the best methods or lures to catch peacock bass. I haven’t been too successful in catching them and could use any suggestions on catching the butterfly strain of the peacock bass that are stocked here in hawaii. mahalo Lono

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Hey Warren — I just checked out page 742 of McClane’s Standard Fishing Encyclopedia (includes a nice picture).  According to McClane, the Peacock is a member of the cichlid family. Our favorite black beauties are members of the sunfish family.  I dont’ think we have to worry about hybridization because the only situation where members of two completely different families can mate and reproduce is in a cheap Sci-Fi movie. Gotta tell you a quick story about hybridization and cichlids.  Years ago I was strolling the shoreline of Town Lake which winds through downtown Austin, Texas.  When I see a group of anglers on the bank, it’s pretty hard for me to pass by without stopping to see what they’re catching, — especially, as in this case, when they’re acting excited.  So I trotted over and asked what was happening.  One of the older guys said, "My wife just caught the damndest thing you ever saw — it’s a cross between a Bluegill and a Piranha!"  His wife chimed in, "It ain’t safe to swim here anymore — these things could bite your leg off." I have to admit I was pretty curious because it is not unknown for tropical fish hobbyists to turn unwanted pets loose, and Town Lake has produced some interesting catches, so I’ve heard.   So I asked to see the fish.   She proudly held up an 8-inch male Rio Grande Perch, which with its hump, does look a little like a Piranha.   I said, "Yes ma’am, that’s pretty interesting," and continued my walk. The Rio Grande Perch is, I think, the only member of the cichlid family native to North America.  Austin is about as far north as you’re likely to see one. Tight Lines, Bent Rods, Storm

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Warren, I have a picture of about a 3# peacock I caught last year.  Unfortunately, I’m holding it so you have to see me as well! I don’t know if it’s proper to post it here – I can scan it and post it, or e-mail it to you directly. Please let me know. Brady – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (1)  Do any of you guys/gals who fish for Peacock Bass have pictures of them you could post? (2)  Has anyone ever ascertained if Peacock Bass could cross-breed with LMB bass or spots?  Or smallmouth? Warren Funk If you would like to know what works in S. Florida, you might want to order a copy of Carlos Hidalgo’s "South Florida’s Peacock Bass ". He has suggestions for everything from live bait to flyfishing. It is locally available here in Ft. Lauderdale, but you might want to try my Freshwater Fishing Books page for a link to Amazon.com at http://inshore.com/bk-fresh.html . Jim Sawyer I am a resident here in hawaii and I would like info on the best methods or lures to catch peacock bass. I haven’t been too successful in catching them and could use any suggestions on catching the butterfly strain of the peacock bass that are stocked here in hawaii. mahalo Lono

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I am a resident here in hawaii and I would like info on the best methods or lures to catch peacock bass. I haven’t been too successful in catching them and could use any suggestions on catching the butterfly strain of the peacock bass that are stocked here in hawaii. mahalo Lono

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we have peacock bass in south fla. i use a number 13 rapala black or silver back, or a 1/8 oz stanly tadum willow leaf glod and silver spinnerbait with a zoom split tail trailer slow rolled. i found any good topwater bait , pop-r or zarra puppy gets them to. Cajunbass8 "THE TRUTH HURTS"

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I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock. It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!" Thanks for any help I may receive Mike

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock.    It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel    really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!"    Thanks for any help I may receive    Mike Sorry about the last one, you will find this one more useful: The Screamin’ Reel Alarm Clock         http://www.los-gatos.ca.us/los_gatos/businesses/upstream/clock.html -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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I am looking for the page that has the audio fishing reel alarm clock. It starts off with a few clicks on the reel and continues until the reel really screams and the associated  voice yells "fish on !! fish on !!" Thanks for any help I may receive Mike

Hi Mike, There is a brass lamp with a fly reel on it. You turn the handle and it tightens a chain and turns on the lamp. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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writes: Hi Jerome,  Try ‘The Anglers Journal’ , Box 1427, Livingston, MT, 59047. A.J.Thramer

I second that. I just received a complimentary copy and am favorably impressed. Not glossy. Published by Bob Auger (Dupuy’s). I was surprised to see an article by our roff/rofft friend and frequent poster Al Beatty. John Nesselrode Shawnee, KS

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The mailing address is  P.O. Box 40429, San Francisco, CA  94105. You can pick one up at most SF fly shops, though they often sell out.

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I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great

-SNIP- Hi Jerome, You can get a subscription to the California Fly Fisher which is a large format magazine (about the size of Computer Currents with glossy cover and newsprint interior)  about fishing in California.  Lots of good info. It’s published by Rich Anderson, but I don’t have his address handy.  It’s a monthly publication and you can pick up a copy at the Orvis store in SF or any of the fly shops in town.  Subscrciption information is always found inside.                          Good Fishing,                               Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Hi Jerome,   Try ‘The Anglers Journal’ , Box 1427, Livingston, MT, 59047. A.J.Thramer

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fly fishing the west or Western flyfishing,  used to be just Flyfishing. I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great.  I had a subscription to FlyRod & Reel, but it seems like a waste of money since I don’t think I will be fishing outside of the state in the near future and they usually only had one article on the western states with the rest of the articles on the eastern states.   Thanks, — Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road             voice: 415-528-2847 Mountain View, CA 94043               fax:   415-528-4159 http://home.netscape.com/

Also "California Fly Fisher" Don Burns

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Fly fishing the west or Western flyfishing,  used to be just Flyfishing. I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great.  I had a subscription to FlyRod & Reel, but it seems like a waste of money since I don’t think I will be fishing outside of the state in the near future and they usually only had one article on the western states with the rest of the articles on the eastern states.  

Hi Jerome,    Pick up a copy of California Flyfisher at your local flyshop or call (415) 284-0313 and order one. You’ll probably subscribe. Not a very wizzy rag but from time to time flyfishing needs a bit more unwizzyness. -Ralph —

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Fly fishing the west or Western flyfishing,  used to be just Flyfishing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great.  I had a subscription to FlyRod & Reel, but it seems like a waste of money since I don’t think I will be fishing outside of the state in the near future and they usually only had one article on the western states with the rest of the articles on the eastern states.   Thanks, — Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road             voice: 415-528-2847 Mountain View, CA 94043               fax:   415-528-4159 http://home.netscape.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great.  I had a subscription to FlyRod & Reel, but it seems like a waste of money since I don’t think I will be fishing outside of the state in the near future and they usually only had one article on the western states with the rest of the articles on the eastern states. Thanks, — Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road             voice: 415-528-2847 Mountain View, CA 94043               fax:   415-528-4159 http://home.netscape.com/That’s odd.  I,m about as far east in the US as you can get, and think

all the major mags spend too much time on western rivers!! Maybe they do have amiddle ground perspective if we both think they are slanted.   I subscribe to all the majors, but my favorite (and most useful) National Mag is Fly Fisherman, but it maybe because they have an eastern slant, but I have issues where the only eastern reference is the postmark!  There are several western mags, and I’m sure one of the left coast regulars can provide you with the details. jg

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I’m interest in subscribing to a flyfishing magazine and wanted suggestions on which one to order.  I am interested in a magazine that is geared more toward the western United States.  If there is one for California since I’m in San Francisco, it would be great.  I had a subscription to FlyRod & Reel, but it seems like a waste of money since I don’t think I will be fishing outside of the state in the near future and they usually only had one article on the western states with the rest of the articles on the eastern states.   Thanks, — Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road             voice: 415-528-2847 Mountain View, CA 94043               fax:   415-528-4159 http://home.netscape.com/

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I am new to this group so don’t know if there are other groups where this msg would be better posted.  Any suggestions regarding that would be appreciated. I am organizing a trip to Boundary Waters Canoe Area in MN for the end of July, 1996.  There will be 4 adults and 8 Boy Scouts in the age range 13-15.  All the kids are experienced campers and have at least some experience canoeing.  I have not been to BWCA before and would appreciate any words of wisdom that those with experience might have to offer.  Our current plan is to use Isabella Lake (Pt 35) as the entry point.  We will be on the lakes from 7/22/96 through 7/27/96.  We have already received our reservation confirmation from the Forest Service. One specific question I have regards water filtration systems.  What is the current state-of-the-art?  What should I consider? My ISP doesn’t keep msg for this newsgroup very long and I am afraid I might miss posted responses.  e-mail responses would me most appreciated. Tim: I don’t have any experience with boundary waters but I did take my troops venture crew into Algonquin Park last year for a week long canoe trip. I would expect that the water system we used might be of help to you. We took three PUR scout water purifers with the charcoal filters. One was personal gear and was kept in reserve. The other to were asigned to each of the patrols. We selected the PUR’s for two reasons. First they are purifers ie have an iodine matrex inside the filtering element. Second , ther price. About $60 (US) Their rated service life is about 200 gallons(US) per unit. These worked very well for us. As to other newsgroups where you mighrt post to, Have you trie rec.scouting. If you can tolerate all the BSA political threads, it a good newsgroup to check out. Hope this is of some help to you. Bill Schooley T-391 Hamburg, Mi.

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I am new to this group so don’t know if there are other groups where this msg would be better posted.  Any suggestions regarding that would be appreciated. I am organizing a trip to Boundary Waters Canoe Area in MN for the end of July, 1996.  There will be 4 adults and 8 Boy Scouts in the age range 13-15.  All the kids are experienced campers and have at least some experience canoeing.  I have not been to BWCA before and would appreciate any words of wisdom that those with experience might have to offer.  Our current plan is to use Isabella Lake (Pt 35) as the entry point.  We will be on the lakes from 7/22/96 through 7/27/96.  We have already received our reservation confirmation from the Forest Service. One specific question I have regards water filtration systems.  What is the current state-of-the-art?  What should I consider? My ISP doesn’t keep msg for this newsgroup very long and I am afraid I might miss posted responses.  e-mail responses would me most appreciated. Thanks in advance for any responses! — ——      X      Tim C. Perry    T/cP    DSA, Inc.             314-576-5101

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It has been several years since we went to BWCA.  You will really enjoy.   I don’t recall your entry point.  Good TOPO’s are helpful.  We found many of their maps were poorly done.  Be prepared for possible T-shorms.  It can put scouts through some weather stress because you can see storms coming for quite some time.  The water you cross can be big and quite choppy depending on the days.  The water is/was close to pottable so purifier shjould be satisfactory.  Don’t expect to carry the canoe and your packs together on the portages.  Plan several trips back and forth.   Some can be long. Very serious about the maps though.  It is easy to get disoriented on the water.  Be open to second guessing yourself. But you should have a great trip–We loved it there.  I intend to take our kids there again.  It is a great wilderness experience.  Take your fishing gear. Since your canoeing and not backpacking you can pack a bit of extra gear.  I suggest you make some bread.  The aroma in camp in the morning is unparalleled. PS be prepared for sketters and you may still be in black fly season.

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Todd,     Visit Kaufmanns in Tigard try some parking lot casting and get a catalog. You might consider one of their schools.  The Anglers Club of Portland meets at the East Bank Saloon on the 2nd thursday of every month…not a bad place to start meeting people.  Members include many local and some national fishing luminaries.  I think Jim Shollmeyer, local guide, much published photographer and author will be speaker.                             Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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FWIW, on the Portland aspect of this thread there are lots of f.f. videos in the Multnomah County Library system; my college roommate learned to cast from the ones he checked out at the brach near us (I can’t remember the name, how sad…  Capitol Hill?  near PCC-Sylvania).  I expect the main library would have a listing of titles.  There are even fish in Johnson Creek in Milwaukie if you have a free evening– don’t know if I’d keep them to eat, but fun to chase if you don’t have time to leave town.   Also lots of toxic bass/panfish in the Columbia slough and some of the little lakes on Sauvie’s Island. Enjoy- — Derek R. Larson           Indiana University        Dept. of History                 "Nothing interesting occurred today…"         -Meriwether Lewis at Ft. Clatsop, Oregon, Jan.4th, 1806

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Fujinaka) writes: Do I take a class?

The short answer is yes.  It will save you years of trial and error and frustration.  It will also save you from spending lots of time correcting bad habits that you developed on your own.  I would recommend that you get instruction from a FFF Certified Fly Casting Instructor, or get references from from former students of a non-certified instructor.  Fly fishing clubs can be a good source for instruction though quality of instruction can be erratic. Do I watch a video?

 I would recommend a few:  "The Essence of Fly Casting (vol.1)"  by Mel Krieger. IMHO the best casting video so far.  Has little fishing info in it but a great treatise on casting.  "Skills of Fly Fishing" by Gary Borger. Gives lots of great info on equipment, knots, fishing a dry, nymph and streamer fly, all about water types, etc.   The weak point in this video is the casting, get the Krieger video for that.  Another good one that has been around for quite a while is "Anatomy of a Trout Stream" by Rick Haefle.  Even though he squints into the sun while he’s talking to you, the info is very good. Do I go to the expensive store in downtown Portland and let them have their way with me?

Depends on how they treat newbies.  If they realize your value to them as a long term customer, they will get you the best bang for your buck.  If not, they will try to sell you the moon.  Ask around about the reputation of the shop.  There are plenty in your area if the downtown one doesn’t work out.  It’s been about 8 years since I lived in your area, but I used to do business with "Stewart’s Custom Tackle" on Halsey out by Wood Village and "The Fly Shop" in Welches (near the junction of the Salmon River and the Sandy).  Both were reputable and helpful shops.  Ask around.   Mail order from Kaufmann’s in Tigard is safe as they will take back anything you order but don’t like when it arrives.                                                       Hope this helps,                                                                    Dan

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Sounds like a candidate for the most up to date fly fishing instruction you can own, Fly Fishing the McCloud River, the computer game sold at Orvis SF and other fine fly shops.  I think it is great. Right Dan!

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I’d like to know how to get started, and I can’t find a FAQ. I’ve WATCHED a lot of people fish, especially in Japan and I’ve always wanted to learn how to fly fish. Do I take a class? Do I watch a video? Do I go to the expensive store in downtown Portland and let them have their way with me? Even more regionally, I’m in NW Portland, away from the East County stores. Maybe I should mail order? Help! So far I’ve read two short stories by Hemmingway and half of _The Orvis Fly-Fishing Guide_. Oh, and _A River Runs Through It_. And I spent several hours standing in a the John Day near Monument, OR watching a friend fish the John Day (I caught a watch, but that’s another story). Thanks for any help! — Home is where you wear your hat.

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Back Sunday night from four days in and around Clinton and Savona areas in the interior of BC. Two and a half days at Big Bar Lake and a day and a half at Tunkwa Lake. Big Bar was great, beautiful, uncrowded and good fishing. The fish were a mixed bag of some coloured fish and some bright silver fish. Tunkwa wasn’t quite as easy, was more crowded, and the weather wasn’t as nice. Quite a contrast between a popular lake and one that has a low-profile but which offered a better fishing experience. A question: are the dark fish spawning or is it post-spawning colouration? The largest fish was a 20" rainbow with heavy shoulders and a bulldog disposition. It leapt like a silver fish and fought as hard as any other fish I have caught, but fishermen seem not to have such a high opinion of them. Is this only because of the poor table qualities of such a fish? I have hooked other dark fish and they have not fought nearly as hard as bright fish, but this trout was an exception.

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Sounds like a post spawn fish. The low opinion stems from poor   flesh quality and the lack of fight comes from depleted physical   condition. Your fish was probably just starting to come back   into condition. Sounds like you had a great time. Ken Lindsay Fly Fishing Online http://www.flyfishing-online.com

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This weekend (January 26 – 29) is the Sportsman’s Show.  It is at the Kingdome.  The show covers hunting and fishing (all kinds), and is pretty big.  I’ll be there probably on Thursday or Friday if I can get the time off. Just about anybody in town can give directions to the Kingdome! — Kevin Farlee       | DISCLAIMER                   | Stupid questions are                    | my own, and not my employers | to stupid mistakes

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Al—–The show is called the Seattle Sportsmans Expo amd is held this weekend at the KingDome, dont miss it it is an awesome show.                                      tight lines!                                                D.Davy

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Hi all, I will be in Seattle this coming weekend on business, and I would like to attend the flyfishing show. Can someone tell me where it is to be held? Thanks Al.

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