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This reel seems to have left the market. Anyone have any info about what, where and how I could find another?
This reel seems to have left the market. Anyone have any info about what, where and how I could find another?
Todd Vivian at Lamiglas is a good guy. Drop him a line, he might know of someone who still has some in stock. His email address is: Ian Scott http://www.about-flyfishing.com/
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Alaska Fly Fishing / Racquetball Tourney
We are trying to hold a racquetball tournament in Alaska’s bush so we can fly fish. You want to play too? See below….. On July 22, 16 brave players will walk into the Alaskan Bush. On July 27, only one will leave as Champion. This is more than a tournament, this is an experience of a lifetime. Wildball – as wild as it gets, Alaska. The First Annual Wilderness Limited Racquetball Clinic & Tournament July 22 to 27, 2001 Bentalit Lodge, Alaska http://www.racqcat.com/wiltour.html Clinics Conducted by: Andy Roberts – Former World Champion All Participants Receive: Ektelon’s newest highest rated racquet Exclusive Team Ektelon Clothing and Gear Nordica Hiking Shoes Participant’s Plaque and much more! The New Champion will receive: All of the above Winner’s Leather Jacket with Insignia Handcrafted Native Alaskan Spirit Mask Other Prizes and Recognition For Pricing & More Information: 422-6400. http://www.racqcat.com/wiltour.html Sponsors: Ektelon, The Trent Group, RacquetballCatalog.com and Reiter Pro Sales, Inc. General Manager www.theracquetballcatalog.com Sales: 1-866-4Gear77
We are trying to hold a racquetball tournament in Alaska’s bush so we can fly fish. You want to play too?
If you pay expenses I’ll be there. Considering the location, I’ll waive my customary appearance fee. By the way, is this round robin or single elimination? I hope it’s single elimination because I’ll lose my first match so I can do you-know-what. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
at 4500 a week you may want to play double elimination to get your monies worth. fishworship
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And then I got it. Sorry long day in the sun without any fish…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You what? Yes, well, I bet you don
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fish » Dagger Delta or Perception Acadia/Carolina
Carl, These boats differ in their performance. The Delta, Acadia, Bayou, Keowee and Swifty are all "recreational boats". The Delta and the Bayou are very similar in performance but one is longer than the other and tracks better. They both have flat hulls and are very good with initial stability but not very good secondary stability. These boats will track better and be a bit faster than the Swifty and Keowee. The Swifty and Keowee are just knock around boats. They don’t track well but do maneuver easily. The Acadia is at the extreme low end of "touring kayaks" It’s has a little more rocker on it but is made to get out into the easy ocean if desired. It has good initial and secondary stability. All of these boats will do flat water, easy class I/II rapids and paddle in bays well. The Acadia, you can take a step further out in the easy ocean.
I’ve seen Swiftys and Keowees on class II, and I don’t think I’d say that they do it well. Certainly people have fun in them, but…well, it depends on the class II, I guess. I think that the more technical the river is, the less fun these boats will be. Also, I’ve never seen anyone wear a skirt with these — it could be a pretty damp experience. — :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I would not exchange the sorrows of my heart for the joys of the multitude"
Yes it does depend on the river. The Chattahoochee in Atlanta would be fine but something that is more technical would not. That’s why I said easy class I/II rapids. People have the option of purchasing a skirt with these boats. The companies make skirts that fit each one. If a person tells me they want to run some easy class I/II as well as flat water, I tell them they may want to purchase a skirt with it to keep the water out. On the other hand if they just want to do flat water, there’s no need for a skirt unless they want to get a mini-skirt for splash or paddle drip. Courtney Rapid Adventures – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve seen Swiftys and Keowees on class II, and I don’t think I’d say that they do it well. Certainly people have fun in them, but…well, it depends on the class II, I guess. I think that the more technical the river is, the less fun these boats will be. Also, I’ve never seen anyone wear a skirt with these — it could be a pretty damp experience.
You can get into a Swifty and yes it will float but it will sit lower in the water and be sluggish. The Delta would be a better boat for doing what you are wanting to do and be more in your weight range. If you really liked it, go for it. It’s a great boat and I’m sure you won’t be disappointed. Courtney Rapid Adventures – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Courtney WOW- what a great reply…..thanks SO VERY MUCH!!!! As a follow-up- being 6-01/245- will the Swiftie float ?? 
If so, I think it would be an ideal 1st boat for me…..going to the kids later (if I like it enough to spend more $$$$$) All I want to do at this point is paddle out a little, or paddle upstream a little (slow river) and flyfish for Bass/Panfish on the way back. I do have to admit though- out of the Delta and Bayou- I liked the Delta MUCH better. The Bayou just seemed a little squirley compared to the Delta. I even sat back and pulled my legs out and dangled them in the water in the Delta. A nice way to float down stream . Couldn’t do that in the Bayou. I guess the thing that keeps me fluctuating towards Perception is their cool web site- maybe their boats are as cool?? Haven’t seen one though- other than on the web 
. Thanks again!! Carl
Dear Courtney WOW- what a great reply…..thanks SO VERY MUCH!!!! As a follow-up- being 6-01/245- will the Swiftie float ?? If so, I think it would be an ideal 1st boat for me…..going to the kids later (if I like it enough to spend more $$$$$) All I want to do at this point is paddle out a little, or paddle upstream a little (slow river) and flyfish for Bass/Panfish on the way back. I do have to admit though- out of the Delta and Bayou- I liked the Delta MUCH better. The Bayou just seemed a little squirley compared to the Delta. I even sat back and pulled my legs out and dangled them in the water in the Delta. A nice way to float down stream . Couldn’t do that in the Bayou. I guess the thing that keeps me fluctuating towards Perception is their cool web site- maybe their boats are as cool?? Haven’t seen one though- other than on the web . Thanks again!! Carl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Carl, These boats differ in their performance. The Delta, Acadia, Bayou, Keowee and Swifty are all "recreational boats". The Delta and the Bayou are very similar in performance but one is longer than the other and tracks better. They both have flat hulls and are very good with initial stability but not very good secondary stability. These boats will track better and be a bit faster than the Swifty and Keowee. The Swifty and Keowee are just knock around boats. They don’t track well but do maneuver easily. The Acadia is at the extreme low end of "touring kayaks" It’s has a little more rocker on it but is made to get out into the easy ocean if desired. It has good initial and secondary stability. All of these boats will do flat water, easy class I/II rapids and paddle in bays well. The Acadia, you can take a step further out in the easy ocean. As for the Carolina and Chinook, they are both Touring (sea) kayaks. They track very well but are harder to turn. Normally they will come with a rudder to help you with this. They are both much faster than the above mentioned kayaks. They have very good initial and secondary stability and both perform beautiful on flat water, easy class I/II rivers, bays and out in the ocean. Their intended purpose is for actual sea kayaking, flat water and easy rivers. Both companies hold a good warranty (I think 3 years). Dagger plastic is made of Excel polyethylene whereas Perception is made of Linear. Technically Excel is stronger but both plastics are very good. Wilderness Systems material is made up of Crosslink. This is the strongest of materials but a little heavier. Since you tried the Delta and liked it but didn’t like the Bayou, you may also check out the Wilderness Systems Manteo. You may find you like it a whole lot better than the Pungo. The hull on these boats are called a tri-hull. They have excellent initial and secondary stability and track very well. I have known several people to take them on all the above mentioned waters but they did get a bit nervous when out in the ocean and the waves got big or choppy. If you’re looking at a used boat, take a look to see that the top of the boat is the same color as the bottom of the boat. People store their kayaks outside allot and the UV rays break down the plastic over time. If stored indoors the plastic condition should be fine. Also look for oil canning (where the boat has a bow in it somewhere on the hull, usually under the seat). I little bow is o.k. but if it looks really wavy, the plastic is getting warn and doesn’t have too much time left before it cracks. Look for deep gouges as well. There will always be scratches on a boat and that’s fine but DEEP gouges can be a sign of trouble on the horizon depending on where these gouges are. For instance, under the seat would be a bad place. Out of all of these boats, I would focus on the Delta, Acadia and Manteo if not planning on really getting out into the ocean. The Manteo does great in waves and flat water, the Acadia the same but less initial stability and the Delta does better in flat water due to the good initial stability but not that much secondary and is not as wave friendly. If planning on going into the ocean, either the Carolina or Chinook would be good. I personally like the Carolina the best because of it’s stability and performance. Hope this helped and sorry it’s so long. I work in a boat store and sell these boats every day and it’s hard to narrow it down to two sentences. Courtney Rapid Adventures Hi: I’m a long time paddler (canoe) that’s brand new to kayaks…..but I’m hooked Tested the Delta today and loved it….haven’t seen the Acadia or Carolina, however from the web the Acadia seems almost exactly like the Delta. What are your thoughts….which is a better company (product, fit and finish, warranty, support etc) and which is a better boat? To complicate matters another shop has a used Perception Chinook for the same price as these new boats……. Also, I’m 6′01" and 245lbs…..any large kayakers try the Keowee or even the Swiftie? I did paddle the WS Pongo and the Dagger Bayou and did not like either (for different reasons). I know this is a long message, but I do hop there are some out there that will have the time to respond…..I’m hopelessly confused Carl
Carl – Did you try also posting your message to the following newsgroup? rec.boats.paddle.touring You might reach more users who could help you out there. Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I wanted to thank the two newsgroup members above- they were the only replies to my post. For the rest of you, PLEASE help me with opinions. I have no kayak background and thought that this would be the perfect forum to get experienced responses. My original post is below:- (My sole (current) ambition is to paddle a mile or so upstream and fly-fish downstream)) Hi: I’m a long time paddler (canoe) that’s brand new to kayaks…..but I’m hooked Tested the Delta today and loved it….haven’t seen the Acadia or Carolina, however from the web the Acadia seems almost exactly like the Delta. What are your thoughts….which is a better company (product, fit and finish, warranty, support etc) and which is a better boat? To complicate matters another shop has a used Perception Chinook for the same price as these new boats……. Also, I’m 6′01" and 245lbs…..any large kayakers try the Keowee or even the Swiftie? I did paddle the WS Pongo and the Dagger Bayou and did not like either (for different reasons). I know this is a long message, but I do hop there are some out there that will have the time to respond…..I’m hopelessly confused Carl
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Carl, These boats differ in their performance. The Delta, Acadia, Bayou, Keowee and Swifty are all "recreational boats". The Delta and the Bayou are very similar in performance but one is longer than the other and tracks better. They both have flat hulls and are very good with initial stability but not very good secondary stability. These boats will track better and be a bit faster than the Swifty and Keowee. The Swifty and Keowee are just knock around boats. They don’t track well but do maneuver easily. The Acadia is at the extreme low end of "touring kayaks" It’s has a little more rocker on it but is made to get out into the easy ocean if desired. It has good initial and secondary stability. All of these boats will do flat water, easy class I/II rapids and paddle in bays well. The Acadia, you can take a step further out in the easy ocean. As for the Carolina and Chinook, they are both Touring (sea) kayaks. They track very well but are harder to turn. Normally they will come with a rudder to help you with this. They are both much faster than the above mentioned kayaks. They have very good initial and secondary stability and both perform beautiful on flat water, easy class I/II rivers, bays and out in the ocean. Their intended purpose is for actual sea kayaking, flat water and easy rivers. Both companies hold a good warranty (I think 3 years). Dagger plastic is made of Excel polyethylene whereas Perception is made of Linear. Technically Excel is stronger but both plastics are very good. Wilderness Systems material is made up of Crosslink. This is the strongest of materials but a little heavier. Since you tried the Delta and liked it but didn’t like the Bayou, you may also check out the Wilderness Systems Manteo. You may find you like it a whole lot better than the Pungo. The hull on these boats are called a tri-hull. They have excellent initial and secondary stability and track very well. I have known several people to take them on all the above mentioned waters but they did get a bit nervous when out in the ocean and the waves got big or choppy. If you’re looking at a used boat, take a look to see that the top of the boat is the same color as the bottom of the boat. People store their kayaks outside allot and the UV rays break down the plastic over time. If stored indoors the plastic condition should be fine. Also look for oil canning (where the boat has a bow in it somewhere on the hull, usually under the seat). I little bow is o.k. but if it looks really wavy, the plastic is getting warn and doesn’t have too much time left before it cracks. Look for deep gouges as well. There will always be scratches on a boat and that’s fine but DEEP gouges can be a sign of trouble on the horizon depending on where these gouges are. For instance, under the seat would be a bad place. Out of all of these boats, I would focus on the Delta, Acadia and Manteo if not planning on really getting out into the ocean. The Manteo does great in waves and flat water, the Acadia the same but less initial stability and the Delta does better in flat water due to the good initial stability but not that much secondary and is not as wave friendly. If planning on going into the ocean, either the Carolina or Chinook would be good. I personally like the Carolina the best because of it’s stability and performance. Hope this helped and sorry it’s so long. I work in a boat store and sell these boats every day and it’s hard to narrow it down to two sentences. Courtney Rapid Adventures – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi: I’m a long time paddler (canoe) that’s brand new to kayaks…..but I’m hooked Tested the Delta today and loved it….haven’t seen the Acadia or Carolina, however from the web the Acadia seems almost exactly like the Delta. What are your thoughts….which is a better company (product, fit and finish, warranty, support etc) and which is a better boat? To complicate matters another shop has a used Perception Chinook for the same price as these new boats……. Also, I’m 6′01" and 245lbs…..any large kayakers try the Keowee or even the Swiftie? I did paddle the WS Pongo and the Dagger Bayou and did not like either (for different reasons). I know this is a long message, but I do hop there are some out there that will have the time to respond…..I’m hopelessly confused Carl
I wanted to thank the two newsgroup members above- they were the only replies to my post. For the rest of you, PLEASE help me with opinions. I have no kayak background and thought that this would be the perfect forum to get experienced responses. My original post is below:- (My sole (current) ambition is to paddle a mile or so upstream and fly-fish downstream)) Hi: I’m a long time paddler (canoe) that’s brand new to kayaks…..but I’m hooked Tested the Delta today and loved it….haven’t seen the Acadia or Carolina, however from the web the Acadia seems almost exactly like the Delta. What are your thoughts….which is a better company (product, fit and finish, warranty, support etc) and which is a better boat? To complicate matters another shop has a used Perception Chinook for the same price as these new boats……. Also, I’m 6′01" and 245lbs…..any large kayakers try the Keowee or even the Swiftie? I did paddle the WS Pongo and the Dagger Bayou and did not like either (for different reasons). I know this is a long message, but I do hop there are some out there that will have the time to respond…..I’m hopelessly confused Carl
Hi: I’m a long time paddler (canoe) that’s brand new to kayaks…..but I’m hooked Tested the Delta today and loved it….haven’t seen the Acadia or Carolina, however from the web the Acadia seems almost exactly like the Delta. What are your thoughts….which is a better company (product, fit and finish, warranty, support etc) and which is a better boat? To complicate matters another shop has a used Perception Chinook for the same price as these new boats……. Also, I’m 6′01" and 245lbs…..any large kayakers try the Keowee or even the Swiftie? I did paddle the WS Pongo and the Dagger Bayou and did not like either (for different reasons). I know this is a long message, but I do hop there are some out there that will have the time to respond…..I’m hopelessly confused Carl
paddled the Carolina in a Basic Sea Kayaking course and was pleased with it. It was my first time kayaking and I had no problems. It is 25 1/4 inches wide so it will be more tippy than the Delta I believe. I would be reluctant to paddle a kayak with out some instruction. Oh, I almost forgot, I am 6′ 2" and found the Carolina a little too scrunched up for my legs. I rented a Current Designs Storm (17′ l 24"w) today and the leg room was better and it was fast, but it was extremely heavy. Hope this helps some.
I have had two Dagger white water boats and have had no complaints about their fit or finish. Are you pretty much decided on a day-tripping boat? There are a number of choices out there, in a number of lengths, and it is easy to get "analysis paralysis". Check out the paddling shops in your area and find out about rentals and demo days. Get hooked up with a paddling club or two and you can get exposure to a number of different boats and opinions. Many folks have more than one and might be willing to help you compare. Don’t worry about making the choice. You’re really just buying your *first* kayak, anyway . (ps- one of the boats I have is a Wilderness Systems Seacret, which is plenty wide (I’m 6′1" and weigh 205) and has lots of foot room, and was surprisingly maneuverable and quick… I bought it to serve as a fishing photo platform, but really like it generally. Check and see when the outfitters in your area are selling used equipment…worked for me, and I got it half price! Good luck! — paddlrat living proof that rats can swim! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Silver Creek (and don't match the hatch)
And Sandy, while occasionally getting snippy with one or another poster on roff, doesn’t hold a grudge forever and ever and go on and on. Something to be learned there, I am sure.
Well, he can dish it out too, Rick. The reason I really want to track him down in Montana is that I was his principal victim in one of the all-time great ROFF scams. Do you remember (say, 1996 or so, on April Fools day) when Sandy posted an extended "quote" from the Missoula newspaper, reporting that the Big Hole had disappeared into the Rhone Puolanec (spelling ?) mine? Perhaps it was because I had fished in that vicinity, but I fell for it completely. By the end of the day, half the population of Pennsylvania had heard the "news". After I fish with him and buy him a few brews, I intend to wring his scrawny neck Mark Faulkner, holding a grudge forever and ever.
Chained flies are far less prone to tangling than dropper flies, plus they are easier to cast. Try fishing a large grasshopper as a strike indicator (bobber) that catches fish, followed by one, two or three nymphs. Why use a pink foam indicator when you can use a grasshopper?
I use this method, but three _dries_ daisy chained has me wondering Drag must be a problem or is the water type such that drag is not an issue. Seems to me three dries on loops would be a nightmare to cast. One large and two small might be workable . Got to try it when I am full of patience. Harry
take a quick look at http://www.montana-riverboats.com/bhsf.html
An X- rated picture, that’s for sure. Mark faulkner
God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously, and outfished everyone in sight. I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin…
– I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice.
I have to agree with that…the Adams seems to work pretty much everywhere. I caught a nice fat 18" rainbow on X creek just the other day using a #18 adams. -Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously, and outfished everyone in sight. I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin… — I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
— I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
atta boy, richard; an early entry into the quarter-finals of the john asadi amazing post of the year award. wayno
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice. I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously,
and outfished everyone in sight.
I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies.
Hatch. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin… — I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing but a trot line fly fisherman.
______ I’m pleased you had a happy evening kind sir. I wish I knew why they took the Adams instead. Curious. — Mr. G. "Gink Keeps It Up" http://www.gink.com
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » A History Of Fly Fishing – Part 1
As far as I’ve been able to ascertain, no one really knows exactly how far back fly fishing dates. Based on caves drawings and such, we do know that our stoop shouldered, uni-browed ancestors did, in fact, fish. Of course, early fishing techniques lacked a lot of the finesse associated with modern angling. Rods, for instance, were much shorter and heavier, and were used in a somewhat different manner than we are accustomed to. A prehistoric angler, favorite rod in hand, would wade out into a stream and take position. He’d carefully balance his tackle, assuring himself that his grip was firm and proper. After quietly surveying the water, he’d swing the rod in the classic ‘ten o’clock – one o’clock – ten o’clock’ manner. Then he’d bash a fish in the head, pick it up, and eat it raw on the spot. This style of fishing eventually developed into two distinct areas: one group preferred ’sight bashing’, preferring to actually see a fish before swinging. The other tribe members stuck with the more old fashioned form of ‘blind bashing’. The sight-bashers soon came to hate the blind-bashers, claiming that their particular style was messing up the fishing. The blind-bashers fired back with the old traditionalism vs. neo-fishism, and the debate raged, leading to an inevitable spilt up of the tribe. One group moved upstream and the other, down. It wasn’t long before a splinter group of blind bashers decided that using longer poles was the way to go. They, too, eventually moved out to practice their particular style of fish catching. Before you knew it, ideological angling dichotomy had forced civilization to spread to the four corners of the globe. (Interestingly enough, many of these philosophical arguments continue to this day.) Of course, early fishermen never really looked upon their labors as being a sport. Owing to the presence of other predators on the stream in those days (saber-toothed tigers, tyrannosauruses, etc.), the prehistoric angler constantly ran the risk of being eaten raw on the spot himself. When a trip to the ol’ fishing hole meant a 50/50 shot of being dinner instead of getting dinner, angling could hardly be considered recreational relaxation. It would be many years before people would look upon fishing as anything but a free, albeit risky, meal. Our angling ancestors did, however, contribute one thing to the sport which has remained with us. One fine morning, an aboriginal angler (we’ll call him ‘Nok’) was working his favorite stream. At the time of the incident, Nok was using the forerunner of today’s electronic fish finder…that is to say he was knee-deep in the stream, bent over with his head fully submerged. As he scanned the water for his breakfast, a large, fish/angler eating cave bear was also surveying the stream for an early repast. It spotted Nok’s exposed backside, strolled over, sniffed, and then took a tentative exploratory nibble. Now, a modern angler, no longer attuned to the wilderness environment due to ions of soft, urban living, would have surely met certain death under the same circumstances. Nok, on the other hand, reflexes sharply honed by years of eat-or-be-eaten fishing, reacted instantly. In an explosive, blinding fury of splashing, clubbing, and squealing, Nok was out of the stream and up a tree before the bear’s jaws could clamp completely shut. The astonished bear, left with nothing more than a good soaking and a small piece of loincloth dangling from one tooth, just stood and gazed upward at the terrified caveman, whose trembling had quickly denuded the tree of its leaves. After a fashion, it ambled off in search of a less frisky (and somewhat quieter) meal. Later that evening, while sitting around the campfire, Nok regaled his small band of fellow anglers with a vivid (and, of course, slightly exaggerated) account of the day’s event. Like all good fishermen, the tribe listened quietly to the story, all the while rolling their eyes and winking at each other when Nok wasn’t looking their way. It wasn’t until Nok turned around and presented the physical evidence that they believed that this wasn’t just another fishing tale. After much congratulatory grunting and chest pounding, the tribal elder announced that from that evening on Nok would be forever known as ‘Gup Nar’…The One That Got Away. "The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men’s lives the hours spent in fishing" – ASSYRIAN TABLET (2000 B.C.) Copyright 1997 Da’ Capn
When was the strike indicator invented? Is that in part 2? George Adams
When was the strike indicator invented?
the day the music died… wayno
A very well researched and thought out article. In fact there is some evidence to suggest that our uni-browed ancestors were indeed the biological forerunner of todays polarized sunglasses. Nature, realizeing that the "Uni-Brow" enabled prehistoric man to fish better – the "uni-brow" helping to cut down on the surface glare from the water – and being unable to develope polarized eyesight from an evolutionary aspect, procedd to evolve (remember Darwin?) a more intelligent species of hominoid who could later invent polarized sunglassed. Contrary to the established dogma that man gave up hunter-gatherer society to form an agrarian culture to brew beer, modern theorists now opine it was for the purpose of inventing polarized sunglasses to pursue better fishing. It is, however, well recorded that primitive man related his tales of adventure around the campfire on the night s of the full moon. And thus, when Nok exposed his backside to prove the veracity of his tale . . . invented the term "mooning." Practice C&R and you can kill it later . . . . . . .john
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » Fla. Fly Fishing School
For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where: Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When: November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors: 3 Theme: "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features: 1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times 3. Minimum classroom time 4. Instructional text book 5. Finest Sage rods 6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes: 1. All tackle 2. Fishing license 3. Lunch and refreshments 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where: Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When: November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors: 3 Theme: "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features: 1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times 3. Minimum classroom time 4. Instructional text book 5. Finest Sage rods 6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes: 1. All tackle 2. Fishing license 3. Lunch and refreshments 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com
OK Tim, this is an ad so I consider it fair game! 
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PLEASE EVERY BODY dont wast your money on this, if you want real advise book a charter boat captian, they’ll teach you how to do all that with PRIVATE instruction and are usually CHEAPER. Here is one I know http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/toccoa/Default.htm#Captain -Paradoxal – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Immediate Release Announcing the Boca Grande Fly fishing School’s November Session Where: Uncle Henry’s Marina Resort in Boca Grande, Fl When: November 14 thru 16, 1997 Levels of Experience: all levels, novice thru expert Class Size: max. 12 Instructors: 3 Theme: "Learn to Fly Fish, not just Fly Cast" Special Features: 1. Actual fishing with your instructors 2. All instructors present at all times 3. Minimum classroom time 4. Instructional text book 5. Finest Sage rods 6. Saturday evening Bar-B-Que Includes: 1. All tackle 2. Fishing license 3. Lunch and refreshments 4. Guided fishing with your instructor What to bring: hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, rain jacket, and a Sense of Humor Cost: $495.00 per angler (Family Rates available) Contact: Capt.. Pete Greenan 1-941-923-6095 or http://www.floridaflyfishing.com/FFSchools.html — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » New COLORADO FLY FISHING RESORT
We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado. The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public. Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water. All walk and wade. Guided. Instruction available. No extra costs. Catch and release. Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish. For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1, Walden, Colorado. 80480. 970-723-4209
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado. The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public. Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water. All walk and wade. Guided. Instruction available. No extra costs. Catch and release. Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish. For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1, Walden, Colorado. 80480. 970-723-4209
There goes another one. There it goes again !. There goes another one. When will it ever end ?. TimW
New? New my ass…new if your new to the group…but i think most of us are tiring of this add by now… Dan Foster
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Central Colorado in August
I’ve got the good luck to have 4-days near Evergreen CO in early August and am looking for suggestions on streams to stalk, catch and release. Don’t mind walking in a bit and I don’t need big name water or 18" fish to have fun – although 18" fish are… Anything within a reasonable 2-hour drive? Thanks and let me know how to reciprocate for Wisconsin, if I can.
The local fly shop in Evergreen is the Blue Quill Angler. Same folks that run the Orvis Colorado Fly Fishing school, Rick Rishell runs it and his number 800-235-9763. They would give you a very good idea as to what is going on there. Bear Creek right in town was aggressively cleaned up and improved by the local TU chapter. Behind the Amoco gas station a few years ago I caught a 18" rainbow. Clear Creek along I-70 is pretty good too at Georgetown, that’s just up the road a few miles. Those are great after work areas. The South Platte river at Deckers is close to for a serious session of lots of fish. Stop in at the fly shop in Deckers (Motel, gas pump, cafe/bar and fly shop setup, it is the town) and get the info on the current flies. You can go North to Hot Sulphur Springs and hit the Colorado, great time of year for the Colorado. Evergreen is a great place to get to lots of the famous gold medal water but the little streams right around town are really fun. LOTS of water this year. — Ken Rupkalvis, THE Republic of Texas
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Float Tubes or Pontoon Kick Boats?
I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the cost?
I’v tried both ans still prefer the manueverability of a tube. Bob McDuffee Network Services Manager, WICHE Office:303.541.0299 Fax:303.541.0291
Whether something is worth the cost is pretty subjective. I bought a float tube for about $150 a couple of years ago. It works just fine. I’ve never been tempted by U-boats, kick boats, pontoon boats or whatever "this year’s greatest invention of the century" the manufacturers can think of.
I stepped up to a pontoon boat (the Leigh) after wearing float tubes since the 70s. I don’t plan to wear a float tube again. Except for the weight, there’s no comparison in ease,etc. Also on price. The basic boat I have runs $325 — not much more than some tubes. ’Course you can run that up considerably with oars and accessories. I got the oars but seldom use them on stillwater unless I expect considerable wind. Dick Hubbard
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the cost? I’v tried both ans still prefer the manueverability of a tube. Bob McDuffee Network Services Manager, WICHE Office:303.541.0299 Fax:303.541.0291 Hi I have fished with boats, they both have their advantages.U-BOATS are great for backbacking and small lakes.Were a kick boat is great with oars on large lakes but costs double the price of a u-boat
Can’t beat the price and portability of a U-boat for small lakes. If going to fish large windy lakes or reservoirs-get a pontoon boat.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the cost? I’v tried both ans still prefer the manueverability of a tube. Bob McDuffee Network Services Manager, WICHE Office:303.541.0299 Fax:303.541.0291 Hi I have fished with boats, they both have their advantages.U-BOATS are great for
backbacking and small lakes.Were a kick boat is great with oars on la I have a tube, a U-boat, and a pontoon boat. After using the U-boat and pontoon, I think the tube is very awkward and can be dangerous in some situations. The additional price for the U shape is absolutly worth the additinoal price. Do not get a regular tube! The difference between a U-boat and a pontoon boat is less imporant, but significant. The pontoon sits you up higher so you can cast farther and see more fish. The pontoon is easier to manouver, except in a side-wind. The pontoon is more stable and more comfortable, and many can accomodate a rowing frame. I have a Caddis tube, a Creek Company U-Boat, and a Super Cat pontoon boat. Tight lines. -Doug (Olympia WA)
Bruce, I use a SuperCat 60 produced in the Seattle area after having used a float tube for several years. I love the pontoon boat. I stay warmer, its easier on my knees, and I have a rowing frame for windy or when-I’m-in-a-hurry conditions. The only drawback I’ve seen other than slightly increased weight for packing in somewhere is the cost. If you can afford it, I’d go pontoon boat. If not, tubes are wonderful anyway.
Hello, Due to a nice gift certificate I now can comment on two low-end pontoon boats. I have a JW Outfitters Osprey ($300 two years ago) and a new Bucks Bag Colt ($200 now). I highly recommend either the Uboat design or pontoon boats, simply because of the ease of entry/exit. I consider it a matter both of convenience and Valuable Fishing Time. It matters because we always seem to wait too long before heading for shore for those necessary short breaks; at these times every second counts (removing smells from waders was another thread). I have been using the JW Osprey for two full seasons and really like it. I have only used the Bucks Colt once but have a few comments on both. I think both are excellent fishing platforms and well worth the price if you can afford them. The Osprey is bigger and higher, a true pontoon boat as only your legs touch the water. The Bucks Colt is shorter, stubbier and lower; functionally not much different than a Uboat. The JW Osprey (their lowest cost model) seat is well above the water; it is feasible to go without waders in warm weather, though your butt will get wet from splash. With the seat out of the water it is possible to go much faster because of less water resistance. For the same reason it is blown around by the wind more. It is also more difficult to kick without surface disturbance, which can be very important in the shallows. The seat on the JW is of mesh supported by an aluminum tube framework. Your thighs rest on the forward crosstube and this is uncomfortable at first; I got sore the first few times but have built up muscles there. You have to keep the straps very tight to keep the seat from sagging. Cramps and soreness are pretty common complaints from beginners with any float tube until you get the right muscles developed. Over about 80 – 100 days of use, the seat supports are wearing out and I have had to reinforce the seatback. The seat doesn’t offer great back support. New models seem to have a more rugged seat but I’m not sure how well it supports. To really enjoy the Osprey it is important to really blow up the tubes and pull the straps tight. The JW Osprey can be taken down completely to the aluminum tube pieces, the seat web and the pontoons, so it can be more compact and individual pieces can be stashed wherever they fit so it is pretty packable in a duffle or suitcase. To assemble it from this stage takes about fifteen minutes including blowing it up. The Bucks has a molded plastic seat that is comfortable for me. You sit just below the water level so you push a little surface when you paddle, so it’s top speed is more like a Vboat or Uboat. You’d be wet from the waist down without waders. The rigid seat makes it less compact but it folds into about a 2′ square. It has more support in the lower back area and is very comfortable, even for a beginner, as long as your butt fits the molded seat. The Bucks has hypalon or some covering on the underside of the pontoon tubes, the JW outfitters shows a little abrasion wear on the nylon fabric (more expensive models of JW have hypalon coverings). The Bucks has more pocket space, though stuff in the big pocket in the seat gets wet. It can fold up compact with the tubes together after inflating and with add-on strappsd can be packed. Both are of similar weight – around 10-15 lbs. The same straps can be used to carry the JW, but it is still about five feet wide (JW has a "backpacker" model better for this). The only nuisance I found with the Bucks Colt was a lack of velcro tiedowns to secure the rod while changing flies, smoking etc. I can easily add some. And no stable deck on which to rest a beer – I set it in a pocket and the zipper holds it. If budget is your main concern, get any float tube and get started as it is an enjoyable way to fish, but if you can afford to get a pontoon boat. Mark Vinsel couch potato no, floating tuber yes Visit my gallery: http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.HTML
I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the cost?
I have had a kick boat called a Waterwagon for about 15 years, and consider it ideal for flyfishing in lakes and ponds. It is higher off the water than a float tube, and although I haven’t used any of the inflatable pontoon style kick boats, this seems like a superior design because of its rigidity, portability, and so on. I don’t know if the WaterWagon company is still in business, but there are similar styles out there. One was shown in a photo in this year’s magazine, FFing for Bass and Panfish. The waterwagon is a flat styrofoam "boat" about, 3×5′ and 6" thick, shaped like this: — – | | | | | | | | It is reinforced with aluminum pipe | —– | and the pipe reinforcing is exposed in | x | front at the open end of the "U". You sit | | at the "x" with your flippered feet hanging | | in the water from about mid-shin down. Since only your| | feet are in don’t wear waders in water down to about 55. It weighs about 20 lbs., and is easy to carry over your shoulder, leaving the other hand free for rod and flippers. It easily carries a small cooler, a second rod, etc., fits in the back of a pick up or is easy to car-top. It is highly maneuverable, leaves both hands free to handle line and rod, keeps you up high out of the water so drooping backcasts are not a problem, and has nothing to catch your loose line on. With good fins it is reasonably fast (a slow walking speed), and it is very stable. I commonly cross a 300 yard arm of a local lake on it, and in an afternoon will often fish about a mile of shoreline, cross over and fish a mile or so back. Any bass over about 3 lbs. will tow you around a bit. Overall, I think it’s the best of all possible boats for lake and pond fishing! It’s better that a bass boat with a trolling motor, because it leaves your hands completely free and still doesn’t put a bunch of stuff on the floor to tangle your line on. It’s even better that having a partner paddle you in a canoe, because you are in complete control of how far or close to the bank you want to be. Mine cost around $200 10-12 years ago, and I wouldn’t bat hesitate spending 2 or 3 times that amount to replace it, since there is nothing that I know that compares to it for fishing convenience. The only drawbacks are that you move backwards and a right handed FFer will normally be most comfortable moving parallel to a shoreline fishing the left hand bank. I spent a very frustating 10 minutes going in circles when I started using it, but got accustomed to manuvering it with my feet on the first trip and never thought about it since. — University of Illinois at Springfield
: I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for : Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. : I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the : additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with : the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the : cost? I have been using a kick boat for a few years now and I really like it. They are better in a few ways. You can go in shallower water. You get less cold because you are not IN the water as much. The casting platform is higher off the water so casting is a bit easier. I’d love to have one of the new commercial kick boats, they look REALLY nice! — Bruce Conner
I am about ready to purchase a float tube but have recently seen adds for Pontoon Kick Boats. Now I am really confused with so many options. I have tried a float tube and like it. Is a kick boat really worth the additional cost or should I stay with the basics? If I were to go with the kick boat, which model would give me the best performance for the cost?