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These thoughtful posts from Tara are just too good to allow to fade from usenet. Since Tara set them not to be archived, I’ve copied them here to protect them for posterity. MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Hogwasher/2.6.1 (Macintosh) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.national- parks,rec.backcountry,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,alt.wolves X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 73 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.226.237.31 X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1023508397 209.226.237.31 (Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:53:17 EDT) Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl2!news- out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!upp1.onvoy!msc1.onvoy!onv oy.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.c om!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: usenetserver.com rec.outdoors.national-parks:143809 rec.backcountry:254050 rec.outdoors.fishing.fly:328244 alt.wolves:135493 atl1.usenetserver.com) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bingo! Yippee!  You win! So youa re actively and vigorously working at protecting the Tom Benos of the world. Ya think?  Well, I guess I’m not going to get too worked up over it.  I mean, how many of them can there be?  I don’t believe I’ve ever encountered the name Beno before……I’d be much surprised if there’s more than a couple dozen Tom Benos on the planet.  And, given how unlikely it is that they share much more than a name, I suspect that giving all of them my active and vigorous support would pretty much be a wash in the long run, don’t you? Thanks for the support! Uh…..you’re welcome…….I guess…….um…….are you a Tom Beno? E-mail his ISP and complain about the illegal and unconstitutional harassment techniques of the far right extremists trying to take away his right of free speech! Rise up and smite the oppressors!  Dirty filthy cowards, all of them… Dan Evidence be damned!  I’m gonna go way out on a limb here and give long odds that you and the rest of the Tom Benos think you got something to say. Wolfgang whattya say boys and girls……who wants to win a shiny new nickel?      :)

Reading all of this – all of this – I am overwhelmed with the sheer pettiness of all of you. ALL of you.  What a waste of time, what a waste of lives. Do none of you have nothing better to do with your time.  Do any of you ever stand back and look at what you write and actually see yourselves. "I’ll do what I want because my way is the right way. And I’ll do what is right because you are wrong!" "And I’ll fix you, ha ha!"  Do you not see that all of you are right and all of you are at the same time wrong?  Nah, you don’t. Your attitude, both sides, is why we have the mess we do.  This is why this world, it’s politics and it’s results are, and continue to be a mess   This is not the way to clean it up or change it. It’s only a way to perpetuate it. I sit back and look at this and I see that Tom, at least has a cause, a purpose and we need that. We need crusaders. But when it becomes a matter of oneupmanship or one of school yard childishness, there is no hope of change. What to do?  Has anyone ever known what to to. I sometimes think it’s simply going to be a struggle forever.   In the history of the world the only ones who have truly changed anything are those who have always been unwilling to resort to the tactics I see here. You, all of you are the grain of sand that is the universe. What kind of universe do you want it to be. Tara Just my 2 cents. MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Hogwasher/2.6.1 (Macintosh) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.national- parks,rec.backcountry,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,alt.wolves X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 112 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.208.65.191 X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1023515054 216.208.65.191 (Sat, 08 Jun 2002 01:44:14 EDT) Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl2!btnet- peer1!btnet!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!torn !webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.b ellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: usenetserver.com rec.outdoors.national-parks:143811 rec.backcountry:254061 rec.outdoors.fishing.fly:328261 alt.wolves:135495 atl1.usenetserver.com) Tom is not a crusader, he’s a nuisance. I’m sure that you also welcome into your home every person that has a religous message to share. And isn’t that the ultimate crusade?

Ahhh, Jeff, notice how you searched for and of course, found the one thing you could find to perpetuate and continue the madness. And also notice (you won’t, however), how you brought it into a new twist to perpetuate the argument.  But, I’m not arguing, and I will not continue (no matter what idiotic responses come from what I’ve said) to post here anymore on this topic. Tara Bye buy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bingo! Yippee!  You win! So youa re actively and vigorously working at protecting the Tom Benos of the world. Ya think?  Well, I guess I’m not going to get too worked up over it.  I mean, how many of them can there be?  I don’t believe I’ve ever encountered the name Beno before……I’d be much surprised if there’s more than a couple dozen Tom Benos on the planet.  And, given how unlikely it is that they share much more than a name, I suspect that giving all of them my active and vigorous support would pretty much be a wash in the long run, don’t you? Thanks for the support! Uh…..you’re welcome…….I guess…….um…….are you a Tom Beno? E-mail his ISP and complain about the illegal and unconstitutional harassment techniques of the far right extremists trying to take away his right of free speech! Rise up and smite the oppressors!  Dirty filthy cowards, all of them… Dan Evidence be damned!  I’m gonna go way out on a limb here and give long odds that you and the rest of the Tom Benos think you got something to say. Wolfgang whattya say boys and girls……who wants to win a shiny new nickel?      :) Reading all of this – all of this – I am overwhelmed with the sheer pettiness of all of you. ALL of you.  What a waste of time, what a waste of lives. Do none of you have nothing better to do with your time.  Do any of you ever stand back and look at what you write and actually see yourselves. "I’ll do what I want because my way is the right way. And I’ll do what is right because you are wrong!" "And I’ll fix you, ha ha!"  Do you not see that all of you are right and all of you are at the same time wrong?   Nah, you

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Dang!  You know, I think she’s right.

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Yeah, she may be right, but in the end, isn’t her responding to them just more of the same?  And isn’t my response to her responding to them just more of the same? …Whoa, too much thinking makes Kurt’s head spin.  I’m going to go sit down now.

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Anyone using a fly line with sinking tip for nymphs or streamer fishing? If so, do you use weighted nymph? How long for the leader/tippet? In what circumstances should such lines be used? I have tested scientific angler class 3 and class 5 in a park near my home. Class 3 was hard to cast. Class 5 was very hard to cast. Comments and recommendation anyone?

I agree with the gentleman previous toi this thread. When you cast heavy line of any kind (above 7) the idea is to false cast NEVER, well maybe once if you have to. On the Roannoke in NC casting for those monster sex crazed stripers, I cast a seven wt with a fast sinker to get it down in the seams that would whip a weighted fly all over. The technique is to find  a pocket cast to the side, draw the line to the suface with a slow backcast, then just before the fly reaches the suface, load the rod by the surface tension of the water. even with this powerful back cast-not by the speed of it, but by loading the rod, you get the line in the air. Make your foreward cast count-and place your fly. If you back cast here, your line will drop,it s just too heavy. If you muff the cast, Start from the begining or suffer frustration. Good luck and tight lines! Thanks to Lefty for this tip, he deserves the credit. Steve

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Leader length of 3 or 4 feet work well for me. Weight the nymph as you see appropriate. Most cases an unweighted nymph is best. Some flies seem to benefit from weight of some sort. Casting sink tips requires a more carefull, slower stroke, don’t hold too much line in the air and keep false casting to a minimum. Ralph H – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone using a fly line with sinking tip for nymphs or streamer fishing? If so, do you use weighted nymph? How long for the leader/tippet? In what circumstances should such lines be used? I have tested scientific angler class 3 and class 5 in a park near my home. Class 3 was hard to cast. Class 5 was very hard to cast. Comments and recommendation anyone?

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Jean, Try the AirFlo Fast Sink or Intermediate Sink leaders.  They cast extremely well and the Fast Sink really takes the fly down.  I have been using one this week to cast small Clousers to shad in the Rappahannock and it is working beautifully.  I use a heavier, stiffer (regular monofilament) tippet and keep it to under 3 feet.  The AirFlo leader comes in a 10 foot length for Fast Sink.  If they have the 5 foot model out now it might be a good bet depending on where and what you are fishing.  Another handy thing is they handshake to a line loop and a surgeon’s knot on one end of the tippet. Makes swapping between floating and sinking a matter of seconds and changing tippets the same. Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone using a fly line with sinking tip for nymphs or streamer fishing? If so, do you use weighted nymph? How long for the leader/tippet? In what circumstances should such lines be used? I have tested scientific angler class 3 and class 5 in a park near my home. Class 3 was hard to cast. Class 5 was very hard to cast. Comments and recommendation anyone?

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Anyone using a fly line with sinking tip for nymphs or streamer fishing? If so, do you use weighted nymph? How long for the leader/tippet? In what circumstances should such lines be used? I have tested scientific angler class 3 and class 5 in a park near my home. Class 3 was hard to cast. Class 5 was very hard to cast. Comments and recommendation anyone?

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As it seems like golf is kinda taking over the ‘clave, I propose we rename the fishing part "The Tim Walker Invitaional Wet Golf Classic." Now for the hard part.  We have to select the course, figure out scoring and handicapping, what consitutes "out of bounds", penalty strokes for refusals and long-line releases, plus important stuff, like who’s cabin is the 19th hole and will Tim fly out from Aspen to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Peter

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and will Tim fly out from Aspen to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.)

Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards, Anthony Ritter

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award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter

An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

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award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

All I have to say is somebody had better take pictures and put up a webpage after all this for those of us who can’t make it to the clave.  We expect the final tally’s for all competitions held including all the embarrassing details.  :-) Later,      - Ken

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Why not save time and just fish the hazards ? "Let’s Dance" Rodney Dangerfield,  Caddyshack — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Why not save time and just fish the hazards ?

Tim, It must be *exciting* to have an annual golf tourney named after you.  Will you be on hand at the clubhouse to make the presentation of the Orvis bullett proof vest a la the Masters? Keep on swingin’, Anthony Ritter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to award the trophy.  (I hear it’s a creel and priest combo.) Wrong. I heard from influential sources close to the PGA that the grand prize at the first annual ROFF Classic is a demo version of Mr.G’s rod with the inscription in gold flake: "Spare the rod and spoil the child." Regards,Anthony Ritter An excellent prize. I shall treasure it always. –Wataugan "counting da booty" Walt

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Hi All, I was wondering about the quality of fishing on a couple of lesser known rivers in BC. One is Cayoose Creek which runs east out of Duffy Lake on the Pemberton-Lillooet road? The other is Gerrard Creek which runs out of Trout lake in the Kootneys. Cayoose is close enough for some nice weekend work but I am thinking about buying some property right by Gerrard. Thanks in advance, Kent Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

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Hi All, I was wondering about the quality of fishing on a couple of lesser known rivers in BC. One is Cayoose Creek which runs east out of Duffy Lake on the Pemberton-Lillooet road?

it is reported to have a modest population of small rainbows and a small number of steelhead in the Spring. The other is Gerrard Creek which runs out of Trout lake in the Kootneys.

closed to fishing as this is (surprisingly) the spawning and nursery grounds for the Gerrard Rainbow of Kootenay and Trout Lakes. Cayoose is close enough for some nice weekend work but I am thinking about buying some property right by Gerrard. Thanks in advance, Kent Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

Ralph H note spurious hyperbole, insults and ‘personal attacks’ made by the author are meant to honour "the Soul of Cicero" and are not intended as personal slights. Please don’t take offense as none is intended. remove "(take_this_out)" for email reply.

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Why not try the Beartooths or the Absoraokas,  northeast of Yellowstone. The Beartooth plateau is great for backpacking and fishing. Penny — Specialty Outdoor Sewing Professional Sewing for the Outdoor Enthusiast Spokane, Washington Ask about my line of Cataraft accessories!   web page coming soon…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi! My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks.  He loves to fly fish and love to hike.  We have done the usual tourist routes in the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds.  I would love some suggestions for other areas we could visit.  Any input would really be appreciated. Thanks! Mary

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Check out the Snowy Range southwest of Laramie.  Your hubby can fly fish and hike to his heart’s content and won’t have to fight crowds – tourists either go on to Yellowstone and the Tetons to the north or Colorado to the south.  The scenery is beautiful and different from any other mountain range I’ve been in.  Geez, I hate telling more people about this place – maybe you should check out the Big Horns in north central Wyoming.

: Hi! : My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks.  He loves : to fly fish and love to hike.  We have done the usual tourist routes in : the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds.  I would love some suggestions for : other areas we could visit.  Any input would really be appreciated. : Thanks! : Mary

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Hi! My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks.  He loves to fly fish and love to hike.  We have done the usual tourist routes in the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds.  I would love some suggestions for other areas we could visit.  Any input would really be appreciated. Thanks! Mary

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Flyfishing for bonefish in the stressfree environment of the Keys in March is the way to spend time for yourself and family. Try your skills on bonefish being caught from 9lbs and up. If you would like to spend a day on the flats, go to http://www.boneranger.com and plan your trip today! Hope to see you on the flats!

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Flyfishing for bonefish in the stressfree environment of the Keys in March is the way to spend time for yourself and family. Try your skills on bonefish being caught from 9lbs and up. If you would like to spend a day on the flats, go to http://www.boneranger.com and plan your trip today! Hope to see you on the flats!

If you can go bonefishing just once in your life, do it. I am trying to get everyone to go, but especially the people that have fish for a life time in fresh water. It is so neat and if you are looking for a way to do it cheap, I can give you some advise. Going with a guide is really the best. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Asking the usual question…looking for suggestions for best fly fishing in the general area of Lava Hot Springs in southern Idaho.  Appreciate it.  I might like to leave the family in the pool and seek my own kind of adventure for a day. P. Bowers

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Asking the usual question…looking for suggestions for best fly fishing in the general area of Lava Hot Springs in southern Idaho.  Appreciate it.  I might like to leave the family in the pool and seek my own kind of adventure for a day.

Check out the upper Portneuf River above Lava Hot Springs.  This river used to be pretty darn good, went downhill, and has recently undergone some stream improvement.  Ask for local directions to the old highway (not the one over Fish Creek Summit).  Try the area up around Pebble Creek.   Regards, George O. Jacox Boise, ID City of Trees

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Check out the upper Portneuf River above Lava Hot Springs.  This river used to be pretty darn good, went downhill, and has recently undergone some stream improvement.  Ask for local directions to the old highway (not the one over Fish Creek Summit).  Try the area up around Pebble Creek.  

P.S. Watch out for African lions.  <bg  Unfortunately, it’s too long a story to reproduce here.  Ask one of the locals and you’ll get an earful. Enjoy yourself on the Portneuf.  That’s the river I learned to flyfish on, many moons ago. Regards, George O. Jacox Boise, ID City of Trees

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Asking the usual question…looking for suggestions for best fly fishing in the general area of Lava Hot Springs in southern Idaho.  Appreciate it.  I might like to leave the family in the pool and seek my own kind of adventure for a day. P. Bowers

Upper Portneuf can be good. Kelly-Toponce area is best. Several access points along Rte 30 north of Lava. Downstream toward McCammon where the big bridge crosses the river there is an irrigation diversion, some swampy spots and several channels. Some decent browns there but very difficult to get to. You might also try tubing Chesterfield Reservoir (on upper Portneuf) or 24-Mile Reservoir. Both can be very good. Next few weeks might be tough though. The algae comes up off the bottom in big clumps a couple feet across and inches thick and clog the surface. It’s about that time. Should sink again or break up by mid-Sep. Another place you might consider that’s fairly close is the upper Blackfoot River. See the article in October Western Flyfishing mag. I was there last weekend. Lots of cutts, but mostly small. Still fun though. If you’re in Pocatello, stop at Jimmy’s All Seasons Angler and find out what’s what. There are a bunch of other reservoirs in the area that are pretty good. Luck & Tight Lines! Lance    web stuff at: www.primenet.com/~hankins

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I have to agree with Keith, it is better to check all of the facts before sending replys.  I have fished the bighole for 11 yrs and live in Idaho where many mines have conducted operations with little or now adverse effect on the watersheds.  Much more damage comes from new home developement such as on the north shore of Henry’s Lake.   Doug

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I have to agree with Keith, it is better to check all of the facts before sending replys.  I have fished the bighole for 11 yrs and live in Idaho where many mines have conducted operations with little or now adverse effect on the watersheds.  Much more damage comes from new home developement such as on the north shore of Henry’s Lake.  

Yes, there are some good mining operations, but much mining is very environmentally harmful.  When you consider that mining companies pay next to nothing for the privilege, it’s especially disturbing.  There’s a reason that Butte, MT and the Clark Fork River constitute one of the largest Superfund sites in the U.S., compliments of Anaconda. John Woodling Sacramento, CA

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[text indicating belief in the Big Hole Big Lie SWALLOWED by  the Big Bit Bucket] Sandy just carved another notch in his 6WT computer keyboard. Nice catch ! TimW

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. . snip . Reading this is gut wrenching, to say the least. As I read this, I think . of the battle raging over the proposed mine at the headwaters of Penns . Creek. I have fished both the Big Hole and Penns, and they are both the . kind of waters trout fisherman dream of. I’m sure the management of the . mining company responsible for the Big Hole tragedy assured the local . sportsmen that no harm would come of the watersheds as a result of their . work. Alas, a promise made on paper will not prevent the kind of mishap Jennifer, Please check your facts before you spout off.  Sandy Pittendrigh’s Big Hole tragedy was a farce.  It did not happen.  Regular readers of rec.outdoors.fishing.fly are aware of this.  You owe an apology to the mining company you wrongly lambasted.  Do I really expect one?  No, self-proclaimed "enviromentalists" rarely have that level of integrity. – Keith

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You’re seriously believing this nonsense?  Mail me a copy of the article from the newspaper and THEN I’ll believe you. Jeff

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Yesterday’s Billing’s Gazette and Bozeman report the incredible loss

of the Bi g Hole River, due to a mining accident at Maidenrock. Miners at the

Rhoene Polen c talc mine, at Maidenrock canyon, apparently broke into a heretofore unknown labyrinth of cavernous, underground limestone chambers. The sudden

change in a ir pressure apparently caused an explosion, which collapsed the roof of

the limes tone chamber, and swallowed the entire flow of the Big Hole river,

approximately 5 miles upstream from Melrose.    Montana State University researchers estimate it will take 3-5

months for t he river to fill this massive underground cave system, and then resurface again, somewhere downstream, near Twin Bridges. Twelve to fifteen miles of

the Big Ho le river, it appears, will be permanently lost to this insideous

underground flow ! Sandy: I suppose I should say thanks for the information, but it somehow sticks in my throat.  I have fished in that area several times in recent years, and was planning to return this September.  Any further information on this devastating event would be appreciated for those of us here in the east.              Mark Faulkner Reading this is gut wrenching, to say the least. As I read this, I think of the battle raging over the proposed mine at the headwaters of Penns Creek. I have fished both the Big Hole and Penns, and they are both the kind of waters trout fisherman dream of. I’m sure the management of the mining company responsible for the Big Hole tragedy assured the local sportsmen that no harm would come of the watersheds as a result of their work. Alas, a promise made on paper will not prevent the kind of mishap which has taken down this great river. To those of you living and fishing this part of the Bighole, our hearts go out to you. To those of us living and fishing Penns Creek, I say this; let this be a lesson to all of us. The mining company doesn’t give a rats ass about the watershed or the sportsman who call it a friend. Let this serve as a call to arms. As much as I would love to kick somebody (Gov. Ridge) right in the nuts over this, it would do no good. The battlefield will be a court of law, and that requires money. The Orvis Company is spearheading the defense of Penns Creek. Any contributions to the defense fund sent to the following address will be matched by Orvis. Make check or money order payable to; Penns Valley Conservation Association and send it to; Penns Valley Defense Fund C/O Orvis, Historic Route 7A Manchester VT, 05254 Any donation over $200 is tax deductible. Thanx for the bandwidth Tom

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Hi ! my name is Frank , I’m working in a fishing store here in canada , I have 5 years of flyfishing experience in streams , pounds , and lakes. I’m offering you the oportunity to buy fishing equipements via E-Mail (flyfishing or else) Just E-Mail me what you need and I’ll do my best to send it to you. (Sorry our catalog is not ready yet )

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Hi ! my name is Frank , I’m working in a fishing store here in canada , I have 5 years of flyfishing experience in streams , pounds , and lakes. I’m offering you the oportunity to buy fishing equipements via E-Mail (flyfishing or else)

Just a suggestion Frank:  Advertising in a discussion group is generally discouraged.  While your message was not really intrusive and you’re certainly not the only one here that has equipment to sell participating in the discussions here is going to go a long way to attracting customers rather then just soliciting for our business.   Al Beaty is a perfect example of this.  He contributes more to this (and the flytying) group then just about anyone and his signature has just a brief notice that he also is in the business of selling flyfishing equipment.  I am more likely to do business with him then someone that only solicits.  Now, if he’d just carry some of the stuff I’m looking for I might actually buy something from him. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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Hi ! my name is Frank , I’m working in a fishing store here in canada , I have 5 years of flyfishing experience in streams , pounds , and lakes. I’m offering you the oportunity to buy fishing equipements via E-Mail (flyfishing or else)

5 years ? Shit Frank…i’ve stood at *one hole* for 5 years…waiting for a 10 year old fish ! Man…it took me 5 years just to tie one Tbone Streamer Special ! I use flylines that are twice that old…! TimW

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(Will) writes:

Yo, lighten up dude!! A guys got to start somewhere!!  Someone who’s been fishing for 1 week can still call himself a flyfisher! Darren.

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(Will) writes: Yo, lighten up dude!! A guys got to start somewhere!!  Someone who’s been fishing for 1 week can still call himself a flyfisher! Darren.

        yeah, and he can piss on my leg and tell me it’s rainin’, too.  but i’m not gonna let him get away with calling himself a thunderstorm.         a. wayne harrison

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If your going to fish Crowley in a tube, it would be criminal not to fish the Green Banks area.  Although at times it seems that you could walk bank to bank on the ‘tubers without getting you feet wet, this is a hot area of the lake.  Since the access roads are all unmaked dirt roads, you need to get directions from one of the local sproting goods stores.  I can get there but I can’t tell you how to get there. I have fished this area effectively using a sink tip line with an olive damsel fly nymph and olive woolybuggers in late June and July.  A word of warning, when the wind kicks up get off the lake.  It can be brutal. Good Luck, Dctr Trout

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Where is Crowley Lake?

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Where is Crowley Lake?

Crowley Lake is in Mono County, California. It is about a ten minute drive from the Mammoth Lakes Resort area. If you find Reno, Nevada on the map, follow Hwy 395 South-East approximately 180 miles.

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Have you tried Tim Alper’s lunker pond yet?  His designer Rainbow’s are big.

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I am looking for some advice on fishing Crowley Lake from a float tube.   I have fished the surrounding area (Hot Creek, Mammoth Lakes, Rush Creek, etc.), but I have always hesitated to fish Crowley because I hear you need a float tube to fish it right.  Well, now I have the tube and would love to get some tips on catching the Browns and Rainbows that everyone rants and raves about. I am planning trips in the Spring, Summer, and Fall.  I know the Olive Matuka is a famous Crowley fly, but maybe there are others???  Also, I will be looking the ‘tote the tube’ to any promising lakes within a day hike. Thanks in advance for any help, Matt Riley

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I am looking for some advice on fishing Crowley Lake from a float tube…

I have tried tubing Crowley near the marina and also off of Benton Crossing Road.  Haven’t hooked any of the big trout but was pretty amazed at the thick soup of hatching bugs – no wonder the trout grow. One trip we hit into a school of Sacramento Perch.  Locals said they were the best eating fish of all; we were camping so we kept quite a few (no limit) and filleted them and fried them up in a beer/bisquick batter and I wholeheartedly agree. Delicious! Before we cooked them a trout purist friend of a friend was pouting because we hadn’t caught trout, said he didn’t want any, then later, OK well lemme try a little bit, then another and he ended up eating about ten of them himself. There are lots of other lakes worth tubing, up any of the roads that go west from 395 in the Bishop area.  Last year a writer to this list caught 6 and 10 lb. brown trout on dry flies at North lake. I think especially with all the water, this year should be good for the east side sierra lakes. I like this area as much for the scenery, and when the mountains still have snow on the it is best. mark Vinsel Visit my gallery: http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.HTML

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