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like a good time was had by all…… –walt

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like a good time was had by all……

It was a great trip. A great Winter fishing fix. Lots of greasy food, liquor, short restless nights etc. that make a man my age regret his age the next morning. Lots of assorted grumblings about various bodily ailments throughout the group. Aging, ain’t it wonderful! There were quite a few people there on the weekend but on Monday and Tuesday, we essentially had the river to ourselves. Fishing was alittle slower with more smaller, 14 to 16 inch, fish than last year probably because of the murky water. Everybody did get into some good ones though. We did get some good dry fly action the last two days. That was a kick. I pointed out what I thought was a sweet young thing to Warren but he thought she was too chubby and passed on her, but I guess all those young things look good to a man my age. She even caught more fish than Warren. I did my best to hook him up by volunteering Warren to be a netting gilly for her when she landed her fish, but to no avail. Willi

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It was a great trip. A great Winter fishing fix. Lots of greasy food, liquor, short restless nights etc. that make a man my age regret his age the next morning. Lots of assorted grumblings about various bodily ailments throughout the group. Aging, ain’t it wonderful!

  Your age?  I thought Warren was older than you.  He certainly looked it in the mornings:)  I was a bit less "creaky" than normal.  The Ketoprofen 200 mg seemed to do the trick for my Osteoarthritis affected toes.  And, I felt great the next morning due to doctor mandated cutback in beer consumption.  Heck, I even brought beer back.  Hey, speaking of beer, I’m always getting crap about my "ol Mil but noticed that, after hiking up the hill, several of you guys drank it! Now that I’m back home, it’s back to water and diet Pepsi.  Bummer. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Does anyone know if there is any worthwhile flyfishing in the area.  I will be there late March and am wondering if there are any opportunities in the area.

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(EVANV) writes: Does anyone know if there is any worthwhile flyfishing in the area.  I will be there late March and am wondering if there are any opportunities in the

area. Lots of worthwhile fishing opportunities in the area. Plenty of wadeable tidal pools in the bay, bayous, and sound where good shots at redfish and speckled trout can be had.There’s an Orvis Store in Destin (my credit card statement says Blue Bay Outfitters, but I thought it was called something else, oh well it’s there ) Also good fishing in the gulf and in nearby fresh water rivers and ponds. And if you’re lucky, I onced hooked a small tarpon there while casting to redfish though I understand that is a rare occurence. Wayne Knight Geneva IL                            

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I inquired at the local Orvis shop (Destin) and was very satisfied with the

Well I’ll be…another good spot for information is Half Hitch tackle. me where I could wade for redfish, speckled trout and pompano. He also said

Although that area still has a bit more net-ban-poaching than other areas there seem to be more fish when I was dock fishing over Thanksgiving. Let me put this way, I caught the first redfish I had caught from the location in about 15 years.  A couple of places to wade are the sound at the Brooks bridge going into FWB.  There are a nice set of grass beds on the FWB side of the sound between the bridge and to the point to the east side of the bridge (ie the side opening to the bay). Heading toward Destin from FWB, just before the bridge to Destin on the left is the Coast Guard Station.  In front of the Coast Guard Station is a decent size sand flat.  In March there might be some spanish moving through (ask at the Half Hitch). Some folks try across the road from the Coast Guard Station on the gulf side of the island and back toward FWB.  You will see a spot to park very near the beach about 1/4 mile before the Destin bridge. One other place that I have never tried, but it is a large sand flat now is on the bay side of the island about half way between FWB and Destin. there were some very nice bluefish off the east jetty. It can be accessed by

At tide change the jetty can be rather good from what I have seen the few times that I have been there.  You can get to either jetty and the walk to the end of the west jetty takes about 30 minutes.  You can also "try" to fish the eddy in the pass on that side as well. Cheers, Mike — Mike Marler                          Information Technology, Georgia Tech

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I spend a fair amount of time in that area, and although I have never fished there I plan to in the future. When I was there over the Christmas holidays I inquired at the local Orvis shop (Destin) and was very satisfied with the info I got. I do not recall the name of the owner, but he was able to tell me where I could wade for redfish, speckled trout and pompano. He also said there were some very nice bluefish off the east jetty. It can be accessed by foot or boat(better). I got some additional info from a sporting goods store named Sockeyes. I would recommend contacting both before going. I was very disappointed after talking to them that I had not come prepared to fish. If you want to travel a few miles (30 or so) to the east past Panama City you can go to St. Joseph Bay. There is excellent fishing there. I also understand there is a tarpon fishery there. If you decide to use a guide and have any desire to split a trip, I would be interested. It is only a few hours from New Orleans and I am always looking for an opportunity to fish. Best of luck. Does anyone know if there is any worthwhile flyfishing in the area.  I will be there late March and am wondering if there are any opportunities in the

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Thanks, I may give it a shot sometime soon. In a sit-on-top kayak, staying dry is not much of an option<g. I would expect to stay in pretty close to shore and away from other boats though. I’m not sure since I have never kayaked…but I have used a lake canoe out there.  It is advisable of course to use it in areas where you can avoid heavy boat traffice <obviously. But to answer your question simply…yes…it would probably be a godsend for you. Make sure you have enough room to keep stuff dry Tight lines,

– Charlie…

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I’m not sure since I have never kayaked…but I have used a lake canoe out there.  It is advisable of course to use it in areas where you can avoid heavy boat traffice <obviously. But to answer your question simply…yes…it would probably be a godsend for you. Make sure you have enough room to keep stuff dry Tight lines, — Nicholas J. Slodki

:Nicholas, : :Would a sea kayak be any good down there. I just bought a sit-on-top :and have been thinking about trying it around that area (I’m in :Atlanta). Thanks. : : :Bryan, : :I’ve lived in that area many times before and visit constantly. : :What I suggest is an outfit from 7-10 wt., WF Intermediate or sinktip type :II, and a reel with a min. of 220 yards of 20lb.  backing. : :If you head over toward panama city or are able to get back in the marshes :in Choctawhatchee and St. Andrews Bays, you’re in for a treat.  They haven’t :had much rain down there until this last week and the water should be :relatively clear and the bottom stable.  Redfish and Seatrout will be moving :into the back harbors and inlets at this time of year as winter is :approaching.  On the jetties at the pass entrances, spanish mackerel, reds, :pomano in the surf and flats, jacks, possibly some blues, specks and small :sharks should be everywhere. : :Leaders should be no less 7′ and tapered to a min. of 10lb. class tippet. :Shock tippets would be good for the spanish…about a foot of 30lb. :albrighted to the tippet. : oppers are a must on the flats in the early mornings or evenings for reds, :specks and jacks.  Some dredging flies <McCrab, clousers, Puffs no larger :than a size 1 hook are good during the day.  Also deceivers in red/yellow, :white/yellow, white/black are excellent.  For the spanish macks, glass :minnows in a fast retrieve are way good. : :Make sure you bring a good pair of wading shoes that protect your feet from :shell debris and stingrays (yes, they’re everywhere too lol), a hat, and a :good pair of sunglasses. : :Hope this was helpful to you. : :– :Charlie…

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Bryan, I’ve lived in that area many times before and visit constantly. What I suggest is an outfit from 7-10 wt., WF Intermediate or sinktip type II, and a reel with a min. of 220 yards of 20lb.  backing. If you head over toward panama city or are able to get back in the marshes in Choctawhatchee and St. Andrews Bays, you’re in for a treat.  They haven’t had much rain down there until this last week and the water should be relatively clear and the bottom stable.  Redfish and Seatrout will be moving into the back harbors and inlets at this time of year as winter is approaching.  On the jetties at the pass entrances, spanish mackerel, reds, pomano in the surf and flats, jacks, possibly some blues, specks and small sharks should be everywhere. Leaders should be no less 7′ and tapered to a min. of 10lb. class tippet. Shock tippets would be good for the spanish…about a foot of 30lb. albrighted to the tippet. Poppers are a must on the flats in the early mornings or evenings for reds, specks and jacks.  Some dredging flies <McCrab, clousers, Puffs no larger than a size 1 hook are good during the day.  Also deceivers in red/yellow, white/yellow, white/black are excellent.  For the spanish macks, glass minnows in a fast retrieve are way good. Make sure you bring a good pair of wading shoes that protect your feet from shell debris and stingrays (yes, they’re everywhere too lol), a hat, and a good pair of sunglasses. Hope this was helpful to you. — Nicholas J. Slodki

:I am looking for anyone who may have some tips to share for fly fishing near :the Sandestin Resort in Florida.  I am planning to go mid October. Any :information on areas and tackle would be very helpful to a new initiate. : : :

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Nicholas, Would a sea kayak be any good down there. I just bought a sit-on-top and have been thinking about trying it around that area (I’m in Atlanta). Thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bryan, I’ve lived in that area many times before and visit constantly. What I suggest is an outfit from 7-10 wt., WF Intermediate or sinktip type II, and a reel with a min. of 220 yards of 20lb.  backing. If you head over toward panama city or are able to get back in the marshes in Choctawhatchee and St. Andrews Bays, you’re in for a treat.  They haven’t had much rain down there until this last week and the water should be relatively clear and the bottom stable.  Redfish and Seatrout will be moving into the back harbors and inlets at this time of year as winter is approaching.  On the jetties at the pass entrances, spanish mackerel, reds, pomano in the surf and flats, jacks, possibly some blues, specks and small sharks should be everywhere. Leaders should be no less 7′ and tapered to a min. of 10lb. class tippet. Shock tippets would be good for the spanish…about a foot of 30lb. albrighted to the tippet. Poppers are a must on the flats in the early mornings or evenings for reds, specks and jacks.  Some dredging flies <McCrab, clousers, Puffs no larger than a size 1 hook are good during the day.  Also deceivers in red/yellow, white/yellow, white/black are excellent.  For the spanish macks, glass minnows in a fast retrieve are way good. Make sure you bring a good pair of wading shoes that protect your feet from shell debris and stingrays (yes, they’re everywhere too lol), a hat, and a good pair of sunglasses. Hope this was helpful to you.

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I am looking for anyone who may have some tips to share for fly fishing near the Sandestin Resort in Florida.  I am planning to go mid October. Any information on areas and tackle would be very helpful to a new initiate.

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

one thing about runoff, well two things…. 1) you can always, always fish no matter how high or muddy and nail nice ones. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA.

The rivers are dropping and clearing.  I think you’ll have good fishing. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape.

How heavy does my sink-tip have to be to get my fly down in the snow-field? — -Wayne Trzyna

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. The rivers are dropping and clearing.  I think you’ll have good fishing. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape. How heavy does my sink-tip have to be to get my fly down in the snow-field?

then you’re getting too high, Wayne…<g… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

The hydrographs I have seen show the West Slope to be about 10-14 days behind the East Slope for runoff. On the East Slope runoff is only now slowing substantially. My forecast is that it will be another week or two before levelling off to something like normal summer conditions; the west slope should follow by another week or so. Still fishable, though. Ken Clark Ft. Lupton, CO

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Anyone been to the MacKenzie Trail Lodge in B.C…… we saw the owner at the sportsman show in denver and are thinking about going next summer….would like some feedback on the place if anyone has been there.

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Anyone been to the MacKenzie Trail Lodge in B.C…… we saw the owner at the sportsman show in denver and are thinking about going next summer….would like some feedback on the place if anyone has been there.

I have visited Tsasha Lake and stayed with Bill the last 4 years. The dry fly fishing on the Blackwater is excellent. I fished in June, July, and August and found the fishing good any month but I prefer June. The weather is cooler and it has a better chance of rain but the fishing makes up for it. Lots of fish-a 50 fish day on the Blackwater is probably below average if you spend any time and effort. I only counted fish one day (my first) and easily topped 100 fish. The real trick on the Blackwater is getting into larger fish 16". There are fly outs available and some of the lakes offer larger fish. Bill will steer you to the spot that will meet your needs. There are a few walk in lakes that offer good fishing. One has very nice fish but it is possible to get skunked. I always give it a shot and catch fish about 1/2 the time. I tie flies for Bill and give seminars after the feasts they call dinner. So factor in my biasis. Perhaps others will have more to say. — Vic Brockett Vic’s Fly-By-Night http://www.navicom.com/~vic

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’ve always called suckers, fallfish, big chubs, etc. by the name Hoover-mouth Trout. No dishonour in these fish. They’ve saved a few days on the river, and taught my kids how to fish a dry fly. Hi Brent I like your attitude.  I feel the same about Mountain Whitefish.  They get a lot of bad press (undeserved I feel) and have saved more than one day of fishing for me. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)Yep, last spring I was steelheading on the White River in MI and I

didn’t even see a steelie, but a few suckers made some really impressive reel-screaming runs. The grey tumors on their sides were kind of a bummer, though, and my buddy was taken aback when one that I hooked made a thirty yard run downstream straight to his boot and started sucking away.  Fun fish, though. -Jon

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We’ve always called suckers, fallfish, big chubs, etc. by the name Hoover-mouth Trout.

BTW, as I was in line at the supermarket yesterday I couldn’t help but think of fishing as I noticed the cover of the current COSMOPOLITAN magazine. It was like I had a good fish on then got it close and – damn, a sucker. This lip injection fad has gone too far. Mark Vinsel http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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We’ve always called suckers, fallfish, big chubs, etc. by the name Hoover-mouth Trout. BTW, as I was in line at the supermarket yesterday I couldn’t help but think of fishing as I noticed the cover of the current COSMOPOLITAN magazine. It was like I had a good fish on then got it close and – damn, a sucker. This lip injection fad has gone too far.

true, but they’re sporting a cleavage factor of 9 these days. TimW

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We’ve always called suckers, fallfish, big chubs, etc. by the name Hoover-mouth Trout. No dishonour in these fish. They’ve saved a few days on the river, and taught my kids how to fish a dry fly.

Hi Brent I like your attitude.  I feel the same about Mountain Whitefish.  They get a lot of bad press (undeserved I feel) and have saved more than one day of fishing for me. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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We’ve always called suckers, fallfish, big chubs, etc. by the name Hoover-mouth Trout. No dishonour in these fish. They’ve saved a few days on the river, and taught my kids how to fish a dry fly.

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Mike:   The best Fly rods I use here in Oregon aren’t Sage or Orvis. I feel the best buy is either a Diamondback (Stowe, VT) or a Powell Rod (Chico,CA). Both of these rods can be purchased from $325 to $385 and the warranties are great… Ralph Glazier South Fork Fly Fishing Alsea, OR.

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I recently aquired a fly rod in an aluminum case. The rod is in a cloth case that has the name Lyon and Caulson, Buffalo NY. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this rod or if the company is still in buisness. I don’t fish, so I’d like to get rid of it if anyone is interested. The rod appears to be in perfect shape. It has "Regent #103" just above the handle. If anyone knows anything about it or is interested in it please E-Mail me. Thanks. Rob

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I’m brand new to flyfishing and was wondering if getting involved in a club was the best way to get started.  I live in the "Thumb" of Michigan. Any comments would be helpful.  Thank you.  Jeff.

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I’m brand new to flyfishing and was wondering if getting involved in a club was the best way to get started.  I live in the "Thumb" of Michigan.

Club membership is the best way for beginners.  There are probably locals in your state of both Trout Unlimited and the Federation of Fly Fishermen. Your quickest line would be to ask at a specialist FF store as near as possible to either your home or your likely fishing region.  There is a famous store and lodge run by "Rusty" Gates on the Ausable at Grayling, another at Traverse City etc.:  browse this newsgroup for phone numbers. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I’m brand new to flyfishing and was wondering if getting involved in a club was the best way to get started.  I live in the "Thumb" of Michigan. Any comments would be helpful.  Thank you.  Jeff.

Hi Jeff, A club is a great way to learn from friends – either casting, fishing, and tying. To locate a club near you call the Federation of Fly Fishers at 800-618-0808 and ask about a FFF club near you. A local fly shop is also another source for this information. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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used to fish that in the olden days, back in ‘56 and ‘57.  Good to great fishing then, and nice little brookie fishing in upper stretches.  Most memorable occasion:  in a bar in Frederick a drunk came up to me and informed me in a horrified voice that my hat was full of bugs!  Often think of that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any opinion’s on Big Hunting Creek in Maryland? I was there today and it was horrible. All of the "locals" didn’t fair much better, no one had more than one. I heard this was supposed to be great. Did I pick a bad day or what? |                                        | |  …and go fast too."                  |     Lehigh University |                    -Edgar Grospiron    |

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  I live about 20 minutes from Big Hunting creek. Have fished it for 35+ years and frankly don’t fish it much anymore.  The folks who want to throw hatchery slugs in there, instead of allowing a decent population of wild brown and brook trout to have the place upset me.  The dam folks do keep a steady if at times extremely sparse flow of water on it.  It seems they are more interested in the lake above then the creek below.  I learned to fly fish there when I was a kid and Fish the pocket water: I like little brown trout clouser  style streamer , to catch very pretty native browns, avoid pools full of rainbow slugs !!!                               Regards   leo

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No Rob, it’s not only you.  I was at Hunting Creek a week ago.  Conditions were favorable (sunny/partly cloudy; 60+degrees) with some BWO coming off.  The fish, although present, showed no interest.  Not a nibble all day. This is about par for many of my trips to Hunting Creek.  The best I’ve done up there is three Rainbow over 12" on a day last summer. Incidentally, Western Maryland is worth the trip! Jack Van Horn

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Hey fellas-  Can I jump in with my 2 cents worth? I enjoy BHC but do agree it could be better. I also learned to float a fly there ’bout 5 years ago. Maybe that’s why I’m fond of the place… I was there Sun Apr 8. There was decent blue quill hatch coming off (#14-16) and the fish were rising til 3 or 4 pm. I caught 6 browns and must have hooked and lost that many more.  My best day was during the fall of 93 when I caught 26 fish one day, all on an inchworm I came up with. Maybe THAT’S why I’m fond of the place… <g.  For a more pure fishing experience try fishing above the lake. Hardly no pressure, ALL wild browns and brooks and a workout climbing the rocks. A McMurry ant always works good for me.  I would be in favor of some put and grow stocking but agree that the rubber rainbows degrade the experience. Even tho’ I did catch a 26" once there. (I had to throw that in, forgive me.)  Thanks for letting me sound off on a stream I love to fish. Jack, do I know you from NCCTU?

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