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I am a beginner at fly fishing (Boy, what fun??). Among the many questions that I have is about a creel. How is it used, do you just put a freshly caught fish in the creel, or what?

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A creel is simply a basket to hold freshly caught fish, instead of putting them on a stringer. I’ll assume you’re talking about wicker creels (the weaved wooden kind.)  If you’re going to use a creel, it’s a good idea to put a layer of damp moss in it, to keep the fish cool and to keep it from drying out. I’ve read before that people even stick a layer of moss between each fish, to keep them fresh. you can either wear the creel with the help of a shoulder strap, or leave it on the bank until you need it (the latter would be easier on your shoulder, but it would mean slogging back to the bank when you wanted to keep a fish. I don’t think there’s too many guys still carrying a creel as an every-day piece of tackle, as many fly fishers have adopted the habit of catch & release fishing, only keeping fish every once in a while to eat. Again, to answer your question tho, the creel is just a basket to keep your fish in, instead of using a stringer. I’ve read that fish kept in a creel are usually better eating (better flavor) than those kept on a stringer. Creel is also a bit more convenient to carry than a stringer when you’re packing the fish out, as the creel is worn much like a ladie’s purse (or duffel bag, if you really need a macho example) instead of carrying it out in your hand. Hope this info is some help to you. PS…you don’t sound very enthused about taking up flyfishing, is there anything you’re confused about or need help with?

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A creel is simply a basket to hold freshly caught fish,

        a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"… wayno

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        a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"… wayno

No, I’m pretty sure that it was Tbone… Kevin

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          a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"… wayno No, I’m pretty sure that it was Tbone…

Yes, it was TBone.  The wise man was the one who said "guilt debased the meal" <g — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

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   a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"…

I thought it was a "quilt" that replaced the creel? Don’t tell me I was reading that wrong, it makes even *less* sense your way. <g — Charlie…

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I am a beginner at fly fishing (Boy, what fun??). Among the many questions that I have is about a creel. How is it used, do you just put a freshly caught fish in the creel, or what?

Reed: Having come up with the "Old Men" who were still of a mind set that it was OK, even expected to "keep" the fish you caught I have a lot of experience with the wicker creel. Commonly it was lined with cedar fronds that were first wet in the river in which you were fishing thus keeping your catch cool. A fresh set of fronds was added as the creel recieved "layers" of fish. The fish was ALWAYS gutted and gilled first. The old guys commonly cut open their first fish (yep even if undersized) to examine stomach contents. Over the years my wickers were replaced with canvas. Then the canvas was left behind as fish became scarcer and privacy on the river became almost non-existant. Now the only fish I keep from the river are usually too badly injured to release with good survival chances. There is the infrequent meal when Fish are abundant. These then fit in my pouch nicely. My wickers now serve as traveling tackle boxes while spin fishing. For that they work freaking great! Especially while wading. The shoulder strap when used, goes (if wearing the creel on the right side) over the right shoulder, and then the body strap circles the torso and holds the shoulder strap in proper position. In general though creels went out of style and use just about the time when I finally figured out how to make one.  Figures! Mostly they are just a romantic and nostalgic accessory that sees little use these days. Buy some other piece of equipment instead. Something like a nice streamer wallet (also somewhat out of style but very classy), a couple of good braided butt leaders, or perhaps a nice tippet caddy. I would buy a nice streamside light for those times (everytime I am out) when you fish in the dusky dusk. These would see more use and provide more enjoyment. You could even buy some tying materials and REALLY get the bug. Tight Lines M. Wm.

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I am a beginner at fly fishing (Boy, what fun??). Among the many questions that I have is about a creel. How is it used, do you just put a freshly caught fish in the creel, or what?

He must know all there is to know about creels…

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        a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"… wayno No, I’m pretty sure that it was Tbone…

LMAO!

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          a very wise man once said that "guilt replaced the creel"… wayno No, I’m pretty sure that it was Tbone… Yes, it was TBone.  The wise man was the one who said "guilt debased the meal" <g

First, I’m articulate, and now THIS!  I’m starting to worry about you Warren.     Wolfgang who is beginning to feel embarrassed by the actions of the thiasus

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Thanks for the replies. I have been fishing for bluegills and other panfish. I do beleive in catch and release, but there are times that I want to keep a few for supper.

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First, I’m articulate, and now THIS!  I’m starting to worry about you Warren.    

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I thought it was a "quilt" that replaced the creel? Don’t tell me I was reading that wrong, it makes even *less* sense your way. <g

Quilts can be bulky, and a wet quilt can weigh a ton. OTOH, a forked stick can do a pretty good job. Seriously, creels are nice to have. I feel naked without one. The wicker jobs are classic, but the canvas ones are more practical and less prone to damage. If you’re keeping a fish, kill it and field dress it ASAP, and put in in the creel. As it says, keep well soaked while in use. this will keep your catch cool and fresh. Now the sermon: Don’t keep a fish unless the stream can handle some harvest, and you intend to actually eat the fish, rather than letting it slowly rot in the fridge. Even when I don’t intend to keep anything, I’ll often use it as a streamside beer cooler. The looks you get on C&R water with a dripping, laden Polar Creel can be priceless. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g

At least Dave doesn’t have a net to rig up to his back And Willi, to answer your question from a another thread (which doesn’t appear on this server) i haven’t been back to the urban spring creek. I have been fishing instead on the rio grande just 30 miles upstream from my house where there’s been reports of monster browns.  These reports have left me skeptical because i’ve tried every trick in the book up there with no success until sunday.  Check this link out.  Scroll down to the bottom of "catches of the week" http://www.abqjournal.com/go/fishingline.htm The fish was more like 21" and 3.5 lbs, but still bigger than anything I’ve caught in the San Juan, or anywhere else for that matter.  The Rio Grande in that area is what i imagine steelheading to be like, ie not many strikes, but when you get a hookup, it’s a good one.  The report also says "tiny silver fly".  They asked me to show them the fly i caught the fish with.  It was a lite brite prince, size 18, tied real skinny and buggy. bruce h Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. I think that’s especially true if you’re close enough to some water to able to fish when you can get away for only an hour or two. Spending twenty minutes getting dressed and undressed doesn’t work too well. One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

– Trust my experience.  Hip Waders come in only one size.  A quarter inch too short.  Stick to the wet wading. IF you do get the hips waders, make sure they have felt bottoms with studs.   (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water. When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

Yes there is.  Simple = good, IMO. I love my stockingfoot hip boots.  They take up practically no room, are lightweight, cooler than chest waders and suffice rather nicely on most of the creeks I fish.  I’ve been a hip wader user for many years, though, so I’m used to being careful about my depth on bigger water. I’ve also done lots of wet wading in sandals and shorts with minimal tackle–nothing more than I could fit into a pocket or two. Think minimalist.  Consider everything other than rod, reel, leader, tippet, flies and flask as luxury items.  Rubber boots and a net sounds like a deal to me.  Don’t forget your Ketchum Release <g. Tom G minimalist angler on numerous occassions

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And Willi, to answer your question from a another thread (which doesn’t appear on this server) i haven’t been back to the urban spring creek. I have been fishing instead on the rio grande just 30 miles upstream from my house where there’s been reports of monster browns.  These reports have left me skeptical because i’ve tried every trick in the book up there with no success until sunday.  Check this link out.  Scroll down to the bottom of "catches of the week" http://www.abqjournal.com/go/fishingline.htm The fish was more like 21" and 3.5 lbs, but still bigger than anything I’ve caught in the San Juan, or anywhere else for that matter.  The Rio Grande in that area is what i imagine steelheading to be like, ie not many strikes, but when you get a hookup, it’s a good one.  The report also says "tiny silver fly".  They asked me to show them the fly i caught the fish with.  It was a lite brite prince, size 18, tied real skinny and buggy.

Nicw fish. Some details.  How big of a river is it?  Was it low and clear this time of year? Is this down stream from the canyon? Have you fished the canyon? Willi

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Thanks Warren,

No problem. When does runoff start up there?

Sometime in May is normal.  It depends on what river as to what part of May.  The tailwaters dirty the slowest, and the Yellowstone seems to get it first if I remember correctly.  The Gallatin goes next and then the Madison. — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server. Bruce, Send me your email address. your post, I doubt he would have been able to send his email to you <g

Thanks Warren, When does runoff start up there? Willi

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This!  Is a man that KNOWS! was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter GEAR….you gotta have GEAR!  Once you have GEAR you always need MORE GEAR and to use it you need fly tying STUFF!  Once you get STUFF you never have what you need and you are always on the lookout for more STUFF!! Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine! Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

– (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet

shown up on this server. Bruce, Send me your email address.

your post, I doubt he would have been able to send his email to you <g Warren

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server. Willi, I’ve fished the canyon of the Rio (the NM part).  Up near the CO border, it’s like a typical large-ish beautiful freestoner, with very little fishing pressure.  There’s miles of water and access is difficult. I caught the big brown about 100 miles downstream, in an area that we never formerly thought would hold trout because we assumed that no trout would survive the summer.  But it is a tailwater, as Cochiti Resevoir is located on the Rio about 40 miles upstream of Albuquerque, and we fish about 10 river miles down from the dam.  Apparently the water’s warm enough within the first 15 miles or so down from the dam.  I know now that there are really big browns in there. The river below Cochiti is mostly wide, sand and gravel, with big riffles like the Madison near Ennis.  That’s about the only similarity to the madison of course.  The water is mostly thigh deep, the river is about 100 yards wide mostly.  There are a few deep runs below the narrower riffles, and that’s where the big browns are I think.  I say "I think" because I’ve now been there five times and gotten a total of one strike that I know of.  It’s just that the one strike produced the best fish I’ve ever caught.  I think even Angie, the queen of spey, might say "nice fish" but probably not Yesterday afternoon I went back and got skunked like usual.  There were tiny brown mayflies galore but no rising fish nor were there any visible fish.  Oh well.  The SJ water just went yucky, everything else down here is in runoff mode, so maybe I’ll go back to the RIO tomorrow. bruce h Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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Once again I’m responding to a question from Willi that hasn’t yet shown up on this server.

Bruce, Send me your email address. Willi

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When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple.

Of course, fishing catalogue photos aren’t necessarily representative of reality, either.   Truth is probably somewhere in between.   You could get by with less, the guys in the photo would need more to fish where you do. Joe F.

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When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple.

I think that’s especially true if you’re close enough to some water to able to fish when you can get away for only an hour or two. Spending twenty minutes getting dressed and undressed doesn’t work too well. One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

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Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water. When I got home, my Hardy catalogue had arrived from England and in it was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

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Last night I rummaged around the basement, looking for ways to do this better.  I found an old rod tube that’ll help with the rigging problem and I dug out  my neoprene stocking foot hippies.  That still leaves me with boots and gravel guards but the clothes changing part is now history.  For an hour’s worth of fishing on the Credit, a pair of insulated rubber boots and a jacket with a couple of big pockets are all that’s really necessary.  Always an excuse to buy more stuff, eh?

What you really need, Peter, is a horse and a telescoping fly rod. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g Dave

No worries, all Timmies are 24/7/365 Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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was a picture of a couple of guys fishing from the bank; no special gear except for a fishing rod, net, and pair of rubber boots.  There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. Peter

GEAR….you gotta have GEAR!  Once you have GEAR you always need MORE GEAR and to use it you need fly tying STUFF!  Once you get STUFF you never have what you need and you are always on the lookout for more STUFF!! Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine! Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com

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One of the things I do is to keep a rod rigged up. I made a case from a piece of PVC piping lined with some foam pipe insulation. The end has a notch cut into it that the reel slips into and which holds the rod in place. I just hook the fly into the hook keeper, break down the rod rell in the slack and slide the rod into the case. Pull it out and you’re ready to go. In the summer I wade wet, but I’m looking into a pair of boot footed hippers. Easier than waders, boots, gravel guards etc. Willi

Last night I rummaged around the basement, looking for ways to do this better.  I found an old rod tube that’ll help with the rigging problem and I dug out  my neoprene stocking foot hippies.  That still leaves me with boots and gravel guards but the clothes changing part is now history.  For an hour’s worth of fishing on the Credit, a pair of insulated rubber boots and a jacket with a couple of big pockets are all that’s really necessary.  Always an excuse to buy more stuff, eh? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Petah writes: Yesterday after work, I stopped at the Burnhamthorpe parking lot to put in a couple of hours of fishing on the Credit.  This involved planning the previous evening to pack up everything I would need and loading the truck.  Then on arrival, strip off my work clothes and pack them away, pull on assorted longjohns, sock systems, kangaroo, quick dry pants, waders, boots, gravel guards, wading jacket, wader belt, hat, fingerless gloves, camera, vest, fly boxes, tippet, then rig up the rod.  — The couple of hours available for fishing already had a 20 minute dent in it I still wasn’t at the water.

On the 7th and the 8th, we *will* leave early for our journey to the Credit. What time does Hortons open?  <g Dave

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Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.  Not that there’s really anything wrong with being ugly, I feel proud  that I am actually very good at practicing and exhibiting ugliness, it doesn’t take a lot of work ya know. Hell, if we were to hook up as a small clave of complete mullethead wearing, scudge head looking, biscuit head toting boneheads we just might be able to take over the place and buy some fine tackle.  I am sure the hucksters would gladly hook-up a collective group of biscuit head Roffians with good prices and great deals,  just to see us move away from their booth in a hurry. Having never visited the show before I have every intention of dragging this big ass unsightly looking numbnut over to the extravaganza in hope of meeting some other butt ugly Roffian brothers and see some way cool stuff and demos.  Who knows, even a non repugnant ugster like myself could grab some free FF lessons and/or instructions. Anybody interested at meeting one another at the show please post to the group or e-mail me, maybe someone who have been there before could indicate a good place to meet, at least for an introduction.  Keep in mind the uglier the better, attractive people need not apply. On the more serious side, if anybody is interest in car pooling from Columbia, MD, please give me a shout.  I’ll be glad to drive as long as my Jeep is out of the shop. Your One and Only Supreme Cheesehead. Tony Norton

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.  Not that there’s really anything wrong with being ugly, I feel proud  that I am actually very good at practicing and exhibiting ugliness, it doesn’t take a lot of work ya know. Hell, if we were to hook up as a small clave of complete mullethead wearing, scudge head looking, biscuit head toting boneheads we just might be able to take over the place and buy some fine tackle.  I am sure the hucksters would gladly hook-up a collective group of biscuit head Roffians with good prices and great deals,  just to see us move away from their booth in a hurry. Having never visited the show before I have every intention of dragging this big ass unsightly looking numbnut over to the extravaganza in hope of meeting some other butt ugly Roffian brothers and see some way cool stuff and demos.  Who knows, even a non repugnant ugster like myself could grab some free FF lessons and/or instructions. Anybody interested at meeting one another at the show please post to the group or e-mail me, maybe someone who have been there before could indicate a good place to meet, at least for an introduction.  Keep in mind the uglier the better, attractive people need not apply. On the more serious side, if anybody is interest in car pooling from Columbia, MD, please give me a shout.  I’ll be glad to drive as long as my Jeep is out of the shop. Your One and Only Supreme Cheesehead. Tony Norton

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid

HEY FRANK!  I just figured out HOW to hold that carnation!!!! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid HEY FRANK!  I just figured out HOW to hold that carnation!!!! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter

GAAAWWWWD PETER!! You want pictures of the STRANGEST things! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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So, Tony, after that last bit of visual cueing (god, I’ll need extensive therapy just to cleanse my brain, or a 4 pack of McAffrey’s), do you still want to meet with this bunch?           Frank Drink early, drink often. ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter GAAAWWWWD PETER!! You want pictures of the STRANGEST things! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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I’ll be there Saturday.  I’ll look for the ones wearing a "ROFF" sign around their neck about noon.  I’ll be the decrepit old coot wearing a non-fly fishing white baseball cap that has a small red, white and blue logo that says "owners day 2000" on the front.  If you don’t like what you see make believe that you never heard of ROFF Lou

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Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.  The wiff promised to get some at work so I’ll pass them out (before I pass out).             Frank I’ll be there Saturday.  I’ll look for the ones wearing a "ROFF" sign around their neck about noon.  I’ll be the decrepit old coot wearing a non- fly fishing white baseball cap that has a small red, white and blue logo that says "owners day 2000" on the front.  If you don’t like what you see make believe that you never heard of ROFF Lou

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"Frank Reid" wrote Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.

   And pick-up trucks!           Charlie, feeling a little out of luck.

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Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.

SWMBO & I will be there Saturday (I’m still amazed she’s going to do it.) If I can’t find pink carnations, I’ll be wearing a ROFF hat (yeah, and shirt & pants & shoes for you wise guys).   Probably won’t make a whole day of it; but noon Sat. at the entrance table works for me.   Counting spouses, that’s what, seven? Joe F.

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Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.  The wiff promised to get some at work so I’ll pass them out (before I pass out).            Frank

I thought the title was A White Sport Coat and Pink Crustaceans. Parrot Head Big Dale

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Well, in Maryland, we all got crabs, so that would be a bit outre.  We should do crab samiches for lunch.      Frank I thought the title was A White Sport Coat and Pink Crustaceans. Parrot Head Big Dale

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Big Dale, Dianna and I were at one of his concerts last summer and had a blast.  Parrot Heads and fins everywhere!!! — Wayne wasting away in margaritaville To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

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Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad

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I was there a number of years ago and plan to go back. Inaddition to the usual dive cites, Check out Placentia on the coast. — Dennis Gibbons CN35-207 S/V Dark Lady

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The diving’s great, as there is a barrier reef off the coast (I think I read that it’s the second largest in the world after Australia).  We saw intense coral formations, lots of beautiful fish, whale sharks, rays, etc. Where we were in Placencia, there was NO diving off of the beach. typically the dive boats took us out to one of the cayes. Callen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad

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Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad

There are tons of terrific Web sites on Belize.  I believe that Belize has more Web sites than any other country its size in the world.  Beisides our own Web edition, I especially like the Belize by Natural Light sites and the AmbergrisCaye.com site. I edit and publish a magazine on Belize — e-mail us if you have questions, and we’ll try to answer them. –Lan Sluder Lan Sluder Editor & Publisher BELIZE FIRST MAGAZINE Free Web edition (600 + pages of ad-free information) at http://www.turq.com/belizefirst/

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Hi We went to Belize in February ‘97 and had an amazing time. Stayed in Belize City and did some day trips, then San Pedro for a couple of days. The snorkelling was incredible, so I imagine the diving is even better. Macy’s in Belize City is great place to eat. Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad

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Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad

Hi Bernie, Belize is great because they have not ruined it yet. It is still pretty untouched. Get a Belize guide book by Moon Publications. Most divers stay out on Ambergris Cay in or near the town of San Pedro.  You are in a nice little town on an island of the coast from Belize City. You can also stay out at one of the remote dive lodges on one of the three atolls off the coast past the reef in the Blue Water. On Turneffe Atoll, you can stay at Black Bird Resort, Turneffe Flats Lodge or Turneffe Island Lodge. On Lighthouse Atoll, you can stay at Lighthouse Reef Resort where they have the famous Blue Hole. On Glover’s Atoll, you can stay at Manta Reef Resort. This is one of the most remote palces in Belize. On South Water Cay, you can stay at the Blue Marlin Lodge right of the barrier reef. All these places have web sites now. I go to Belize to fly fish for bonefish, tarpon, permit and snook. I can help you there if you need any. I like Placencia too.  www.placencia.com Look at the Belize First site.

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If you are interested in some great spring flyfishing for stripers, contact me. I had several days with catches of 100+ on Clousers last May.

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100 fish in one day? One person catching 100 fish in one day?  Stripers? Get real. Big Al – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are interested in some great spring flyfishing for stripers, contact me. I had several days with catches of 100+ on Clousers last May.

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What no pictures ? Ohhhh, I thought you said "strippers" !! Pardon, Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are interested in some great spring flyfishing for stripers, contact me. I had several days with catches of 100+ on Clousers last May.

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Why not just post  some of the facts and let us decide for ourselves… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are interested in some great spring flyfishing for stripers, contact me. I had several days with catches of 100+ on Clousers last May.

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Does anyone know if a larger reel foot is available for a Ross Gunnison G3 reel? The slip ring on my fly rod’s reel seat has streched enough that it slides all the way over my reel foot, and the nut on the reel seat cannot tighten the reel down.  The reel seat is a Struble U3 reel seat, with a removeable fighting butt attachment on it, so I don’t think I can take the reel seat apart and put a new ring on the reel seat.  If a larger foot can be put on the reel (there are four screws holding the current foot on) I think the slip ring should work ok.  I fixed the problem by putting three layers of duct tape on the reel seat, to minimize the spacing inside the ring with the reel foot in place.  This is not the solution I want to live with.  A new reel is not a solution I want to consider either, since I still have my old Pflueger Medalist that fits fine. Thanks, Mark Johnson A Sorry if this question has something to do with fly fishing.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know if a larger reel foot is available for a Ross Gunnison G3 reel? The slip ring on my fly rod’s reel seat has streched enough that it slides all the way over my reel foot, and the nut on the reel seat cannot tighten the reel down.  The reel seat is a Struble U3 reel seat, with a removeable fighting butt attachment on it, so I don’t think I can take the reel seat apart and put a new ring on the reel seat.  If a larger foot can be put on the reel (there are four screws holding the current foot on) I think the slip ring should work ok.  I fixed the problem by putting three layers of duct tape on the reel seat, to minimize the spacing inside the ring with the reel foot in place.  This is not the solution I want to live with.  A new reel is not a solution I want to consider either, since I still have my old Pflueger Medalist that fits fine. Thanks, Mark Johnson A Sorry if this question has something to do with fly fishing.

Apology accepted.  Just don’t do it again, OK? I used to have a Gunnison 3 with the same problem.  Apart from tape, the only thing I can suggest, is try to find a reel that has the same screw pattern and then order just the foot from that manufacturer.  If I remember correctly, the G3 has a screwed-on reel seat.  (If it’s riveted, you’re screwed.)   Most other reel manufacturers make thicker feet.  Don’t drop your G3 on anything hard either, the foot is awful thin.  I had to work on mine to remove a ding before it would fit on the rod again.  Also, don’t overheat the drag (i.e. no Chinook or salt fishing.)  You’ll wear (melt?) the point off the plastic pawl. Peter

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D433-Mark_E_Johnson(Mark)x3037 schrieb in Nachricht … Does anyone know if a larger reel foot is available for a Ross Gunnison G3 reel?

Hi Mark, I had this problem on a rod which I did not want to take apart either.  I built a new reel foot.  Any good fitter or mechanical workshop should be able to do this for you at minimal cost. It mainly depends on how the reel foot is attached to the reel. Mine was held by four small screws, so the modification was easy. I  got a secondary advantage out of the mod too, by making the reel foot come off at an angle from the reel, I moved the reel up the rod about one and a half centimeters effectively. This makes for better casting and holding, less fatigue, and my fingers or hand no longer touch the metal of the reel seat. This makes it much more comfortable. Hope this helps ! Tight lines  ( and reel seats ! ) Mike Connor

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Probably — I had the same problem with the G4 and a Scott rod.  I asked the dealer involved if he could help, and a week later, Ross sent a larger reel foot that works great.  I believe that Ross sent the dealer a kit with a bunch of feet for various reels in their line. Rob

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Hi Joe, I would recommend a level wind reel like a Penn 9 or Penn 109 for 100 yards of lead core. A Penn 209 will hold 200 yards of lead core for real deep fishing. After you install the lead core on the reel, I would pull out about 1 inch of lead from the inside of the braided line. Put a needle about 1 inch up inside the line an push it out through the side making a hole. After this you can take a 30 foot piece of 15 pound mono and put it up inside the braided skin of the lead core and then out through the side. Then make a barrel, blood or snell knot over the outside of the line. On the end of the 30 feet of 15 pound mono you then attach you trolling blades. Then attach about 2 to 3 feet of 6 to 8 pound mono with you fly, worm or spoon on the end. Get two rigs the same so they will both be rotating together at the same speed. The fish are shallower in the morning and evening and deeper in the daytime. They are also shallower in the fall, winter and spring and deeper in the mid summer. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Exactly what is your question? How to fish with it? load it on the reel?

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Typically you rig lead core with a 50 foot leader of mono, Spiderwire, or Fireline.  On a trolling reel or large baitcaster, you spool up enough leadcore for your needs then you can tie the leadcore to your 50 foot leader.   Rather than just tying the two together, many people like to tie the two together wil a small barrell swivel.  Just make sure the barrell swivel is strong enough. If your looking to run your lines deeper and don’t want to use downriggers yet, there are other options besides using leadcore. Leadcore certainly works and has it’s place.  However  another option is to use Dipsey Divers or similar devices.  A second option is to use the Snap Weights from Off Shore Tackle that clip onto your line.  It all depends on the fishing your doing, however, if it was myself, I’d prefer using Dipseys or Snap Weights over lead core in most cases. If you want any more info feel free to send me some e-mail. Good Fishin’ Don Mutsch

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I am planning on fishing Milton and Martis Lakes (Truckee area, CA) this weekend (3 -4 May).  I was wondering if anyone fished them opening weekend and could supply me with a report? Fish on,         John Kinyon

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes. In exchange, I offer this report from Indian Creek Reservoir, near Markleeville south of lake Tahoe. Elevation ~5,000 ft.   Weekends of 4/26 & 5/3. Fishing is slow. Water is still very clear.  Very few callibaetis or damsels showing yet, and no visible surface action morning or evening. Dedicated fishers willing to fish through the wind are getting 5-10 hookups per day, on full sink lines fished near the bottom. Most fish in the 12-14 inch range.  Try olive leeches, rubberlip hares ears, and green scuds. Winds generally blowing from the south towards the dam. Most fish were caught in the northern half of lake with few fish taken in the shallows at the southern end. More fish were being caught by trollers with flashers than tubers with flies. It does not seem that there are as many fish here as in years past, but a damsel or callibaetis hatch may bring them to the surface and prove that wrong. -Mark Vinsel I am planning on fishing Milton and Martis Lakes (Truckee area, CA) this weekend (3 -4 May).  I was wondering if anyone fished them opening weekend and could supply me with a report? Fish on,         John Kinyon

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes.

I heard Martis was not bad, but you could not get into Milton. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes. I heard Martis was not bad, but you could not get into Milton. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

Bill & Mark—-Martis has been fishing well in the new "flats" on the south side, at the inlet.  Check-out my website and click on "update" for more detailed info on Martis:                  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/CyberFly Frank R. Pisciotta

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Just moved here from LA, If anyone has any advice on the good places to float a dry, please email me. Thanks A bunch. Tight Lines John JTA The Truth Is Out There, But Would You Recognize It? Can You Handle It?

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Just moved here from LA, If anyone has any advice on the good places to float a dry, please email me.

Try the San Juan in April – May and October.  You’ll love it.

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Just moved here from LA, If anyone has any advice on the good places to

float a dry, please email me. Try the San Juan in April – May and October.  You’ll love it.

Chuck – You might also want to check out the Rio Grande near Pilar from October thru February.  You’ll find some excellent fishing and there won’t be many other people around.  Let me know if you want more info. Jeff Schmitt

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I just caught up with the exchanges on New Mexico – also have the opportunity to get out that way in mid-late march and am trying to get some info on the San Juan.  I’ve read about the size and prolific bug life but have also heard about the crowds…Bottom line, what’s to be expected at that time of year, either weather wise or in terms of runoff?  I’m not up to date on the snow pack/drought conditions or how much difference it makes on this great tailwater…Happy to reciprocate if you all ever get out to the midwest.  Thanks.

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I bought a vest from an outfit in Montana called Goldeneye.  I got their shortie vest.  Supplex material, many pockets, YKK zippers, etc.

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I bought a vest from an outfit in Montana called Goldeneye.  I got their shortie vest.  Supplex material, many pockets, YKK zippers, etc.

I got something pretty cool for Christmas.  It’s made by  Liegh, and is a kind of non-vest.  Two pouches, like fanny packs front and rear held on by a harness.  It seems to hold quite a bit of gear, and include two water bottles in easy to get to holders.  Has a nice net loder as well.  I haven’t gone out with it, but I’m certain I’ll like it.  I think it goes in the $50.00 range, and comes in several colors.  I hope this helps, and this posting doesn’t screw things on this thread up too much. Chaz

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caen!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ao665 Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Lines: 28 Am looking to buy a budget priced vest (under $50).  Am considering Cabela, LL. Bean, and FeatherCraft offerings.  Any experience or ideas?

Several stores are having sales at his time of year.  I just found two local stores that were selling Patagonia vests for 40% off.  I got the vertical vest for only $60.00.  It’s a great vest, much better than the Orvis Tac-L-Pak which is already ripping apart after only 2 months of use (I am going to try to see if Orvis will take it back).  My girlfriend also found a good deal by going to the Columbia Clothing Outlet store where she found a "Henry’s Fork" vest for $30.00.  This is also much higher quality than the Orvis. Good luck. – Steve

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Am looking to buy a budget priced vest (under $50).  Am considering Cabela, LL. Bean, and FeatherCraft offerings.  Any experience or ideas?

My wife bought me an LL Bean Guide vest ($55 US).  It is made of a fairly light fabric, but it is 65% polyester/35%cotton so it should endure.  (The catalogue says it is 65% cotton but the label says that polester predominates.)  Because of the high polyester content it dries quickly. It does not have a high tech collar like an Orvis Tac-L-Pak, but it is comfortable anyway. It has lots of pockets.  The small ones beside your navel will hold a 3X5X1.5 inch box.  The little one on the right chest pocket will hol a nymph wallet.  The one I like best, though, is the big gusseted cargo pouch on the back.  It is just like the game pouch on my grouse vest.  It is very handy for carrying water, sanwiches, and a raincoat.  It is big enough that I can stuff my landing net in there while I bust through the alders. Don’t you wish you had a wife like mine? Keep your stick on the ice. Thos.

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Am looking to buy a budget priced vest (under $50).  Am considering Cabela, LL. Bean, and FeatherCraft offerings.  Any experience or ideas?

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Am looking to buy a budget priced vest (under $50).  Am considering Cabela, LL. Bean, and FeatherCraft offerings.  Any experience or ideas?

A friend has one from Cabellas and likes it.  In general, get one with more pockets than you think you can use — at some point, you’ll be glad you have them!  Its hard via the mail, but watch out for thin fabric and low-quality workmanship.  Return it if you think it won’t hold up.  Both Cabellas and Bean are real good about exchanges or refunds if you’re not happy. Enjoy, Nat Davis

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