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John, that’s an inspiration to aspiring Grandads throughout ROFF. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Grandma and I had #1 and #2 grandsons this afternoon fishing Foothill Lake in Palo Alto.  #2 is two years old and, with Grandma, was tossing his Snoopy rod and reel with the practice casting plug everywhere, sometimes in the water <g!  #1 is 8 years old and ALWAYS catches more fish with Dad than with Grandpa <g!  #1 was tossing Powerbait, worms and marshmallows all over the lake with no luck but he was doing a good job.  Late in the day, the following occurred: He:  Look at that guy on the dock, Grandpa.  What is he fishing with? Me: A fly rod. He:  Isn’t that what you fish with? Me: Yes. He:  That looks like fun.  (Heart twinges) Me:  It is. He:  It looks hard. Me:  Well, it takes training.  Like bicycle riding or a skate board. He:  They’re easy, Grandpa. What’s he doing now? Me:  Stripping a fly imitating a minnow. He:  That looks like lots of fun (Heart Jumps). Me:  It is. He:  Would you show me how?  (BE STILL MY HEART) Me:  OK, whenever you want too. He:  Takes spin outfit, sits on rock and watches caster roll casting, double hauling and practicing long beautiful casts for good 5 minutes <WOW. She:  (Watching #1 watching fly caster) to me:  BE STILL MY HEART. Me:  OK Bud, it’s time to go. He:  Grandpa, will you teach me how to fly fish? HEART IN MY THROAT!!! Me:  Too choked up to say anything but SURE – Who’s Hungry? He:  Later he said:  "Mom Grandpa is going to show me how to fly fish!" She:  (Rolls eyes) Oh, he IS is he?  to me "How did you arrange that?" Me:  It’s in the genes <g!

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<snip A most delightful post, John. And a great lesson to one who pushed too hard to get my kids to embrace my sport.  Ah!!! But when the grandchildren come along. Patience, patience and patience. Perhaps.<G Thanks Kiyu

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You are indeed a lucky fellow.  Great post.  Looking forward to hearing how he progresses.  If only every 8 year old was as lucky …. Cheers and TLs. Natty

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Grandma and I had #1 and #2 grandsons this afternoon fishing Foothill Lake in Palo Alto.  #2 is two years old and, with Grandma, was tossing his Snoopy rod and reel with the practice casting plug everywhere, sometimes in the water <g!  #1 is 8 years old and ALWAYS catches more fish with Dad than with Grandpa <g!  #1 was tossing Powerbait, worms and marshmallows all over the lake with no luck but he was doing a good job.  Late in the day, the following occurred: He:  Look at that guy on the dock, Grandpa.  What is he fishing with? Me: A fly rod. He:  Isn’t that what you fish with? Me: Yes. He:  That looks like fun.  (Heart twinges) Me:  It is. He:  It looks hard. Me:  Well, it takes training.  Like bicycle riding or a skate board. He:  They’re easy, Grandpa. What’s he doing now? Me:  Stripping a fly imitating a minnow. He:  That looks like lots of fun (Heart Jumps). Me:  It is. He:  Would you show me how?  (BE STILL MY HEART) Me:  OK, whenever you want too. He:  Takes spin outfit, sits on rock and watches caster roll casting, double hauling and practicing long beautiful casts for good 5 minutes <WOW. She:  (Watching #1 watching fly caster) to me:  BE STILL MY HEART. Me:  OK Bud, it’s time to go. He:  Grandpa, will you teach me how to fly fish? HEART IN MY THROAT!!! Me:  Too choked up to say anything but SURE – Who’s Hungry? He:  Later he said:  "Mom Grandpa is going to show me how to fly fish!" She:  (Rolls eyes) Oh, he IS is he?  to me "How did you arrange that?" Me:  It’s in the genes <g!

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Thanks, that story ruled!  Perhaps you should start shopping for 6 ft fly rods <g Best of luck and congratulations, — Warren Findley

It might be easier for him to learn with an 8 foot rod. About fifteen years ago a friend and I started his eight year old son with my 8 foot 6 weight Cortland. He still uses that rod. I will look forward to meeting him at Flyfish 2002 next year. Big Dale

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<snipped story of Grandson Thanks, that story ruled!  Perhaps you should start shopping for 6 ft fly rods <g Best of luck and congratulations, — Warren Findley

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What I was originally opposed to was similar to a librarian saying, "go look in the card catalog it’s got to be there somewhere."  I see a big difference.  Do you?

Thought it was the same thing on both occasions.  The original I was referring to was when someone else posted a link to the source of the info, although not the specific link and got all kinds of flak for it.  Don’t see much difference in it other than the fact that the "librarian" not only gave them the book, but opened it for them to the right page.  Just thought it was kind of funny though. Warren X#-[

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What I was originally opposed to was similar to a librarian saying, "go look in the card catalog it’s got to be there somewhere."  I see a big difference.  Do you? Thought it was the same thing on both occasions.  The original I was referring to was when someone else posted a link to the source of the info, although not the specific link and got all kinds of flak for it.  Don’t see much difference in it other than the fact that the librarian" not only gave them the book, but opened it for them to the right page.  Just thought it was kind of funny though.

okay  :-) — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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r the record though, I see a difference between someone telling another where the information is apposed to telling them to go SEARCH for it themselves.  What I did is like a librarian taking someone’s hand and waking them over to a book, opening it, and telling them that their answer is right there as they point to a page.  What I was originally opposed to was similar to a librarian saying, "go look in the card catalog it’s got to be there somewhere."  I see a big difference.  Do you? — Vern

I don’t see any difference, Vern, except that you did it instead of me. Actually my post was quite specific in its instructions, and I had been to the sources and knew that they would be very helpful. Pat K

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Let’s start with the TU web-site and then some others are nice when it come to knots. http://www.tutv.org/html/equipment.html http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/knots/table.htm http://www.f-deans.freeserve.co.uk/knots/knots.htm http://www.steelheader.net/knots/knots.htm Now Vern, that wasn’t nice to do.  You should have drawn diagrams and posted step by step instructions instead of pointing to a web site <g

LOL.  Very funny Warren. Just for the record though, I see a difference between someone telling another where the information is apposed to telling them to go SEARCH for it themselves.  What I did is like a librarian taking someone’s hand and waking them over to a book, opening it, and telling them that their answer is right there as they point to a page.  What I was originally opposed to was similar to a librarian saying, "go look in the card catalog it’s got to be there somewhere."  I see a big difference.  Do you? — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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Let’s start with the TU web-site and then some others are nice when it come to knots. http://www.tutv.org/html/equipment.html http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/knots/table.htm http://www.f-deans.freeserve.co.uk/knots/knots.htm http://www.steelheader.net/knots/knots.htm

Now Vern, that wasn’t nice to do.  You should have drawn diagrams and posted step by step instructions instead of pointing to a web site <g Warren X#-[

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This site has a good description of how to set you rod up and great knot info.  Hope it helps http://www.flyfield.com/davetips.htm. I bought that same rod for my 5 year old son.  He likes it.  You should trash that level line that came with the rod and at least buy a cheap weight forward Scientific Anglers Weight Forward 5 wt floating line for 10 bucks at WallMart.  Your casting will benefit.  When you upgrade you can get premium line at a flyshop.  But the 10 bucks on a WF5F will be well spent. When I started I bought Flyfishing for Dummies.  It was a great help and left nothing to the imagination. Good luck JBB

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then tried to connect the leader and i am baffled

Several people around here swear by Eagle Claw Leader Links.  If you know how to tie overhand knots you can use a leader link. Mu  

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Alex, good luck getting started in fly fishing.  It is difficult to learn by yourself, but you will find it to be very rewarding and enjoyable.  I don’t know of any sites with knots, but a couple have been given so far.

Let’s start with the TU web-site and then some others are nice when it come to knots. http://www.tutv.org/html/equipment.html http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/knots/table.htm http://www.f-deans.freeserve.co.uk/knots/knots.htm http://www.steelheader.net/knots/knots.htm — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -llo everyone..well i am absolutly new to this whole scene of fly fishing. i am going camping in 3 weeks, and decided to go and buy a new reel and rod for the trip.. low and behold, i ended up buying a fly rod and reel with lines included,, ok I am now finding out that good be kinda tacky, and you get what you pay for..hehe.. but nonetheless i am goinmg to learn this, and i hope and intend to be somewhat successful on my first journey out, then while planning my next adventure, i will upgrade all the nessesary equipment,,, so this is what i got,, a south bend rod and reel, 6 1/2 ft. medium action, line class 4/5,, also got fly line (unsure of the weight, balanced floating?) and a knotless tapered leader 7 1/2 ft. 4x 3 lb test,,and some flies.. so i went to beginners net guide to fly fishing,  I attached my line to the reel ( i hope it is correct, i followed the illustrations), then tried to connect the leader and i am baffled,, so i believe i am looking for some help, and possibly other decent web sights that may be a little more informative,? so thank you for any advise,, even harsh critisism.  :) Alex( the new guy)

Welcome to flyfishing Alex.  The outfit you purchased will get you started anyway and you can catch fish with it.  When you want to upgrade, you will probably want an 8 1//2 to 9ft rod, depending on the type of fishing you will be doing.  Get back to us then for more info.  Re knots, you will need to learn several, but you may already know some of them.  For attatching line to leader, you should learn a nail knot (or some folks use a line connector though its considered less reliable), a double surgeons knot and/or a barrel knot for connecting two leader sections or connecting leader to tippet, and a clinch knot, berkeley knot, or improved clinch for connecting tippet to fly.  For detailed instructions on these knots go to : www.killroys.com/knots/knots.htm. You may also want to take a flycasting class from a local FF shop, so you get started with correct casting technique. Tight Lines, Pat K

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Alex, try this url. http://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/101/ It should give you a lot of good information to begin with.  In fact, it has a lot of good information for people that have been fishing for a while.  It’s simple to follow and find the information you are looking for. — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders"                             quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.

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Alex, good luck getting started in fly fishing.  It is difficult to learn by yourself, but you will find it to be very rewarding and enjoyable.  I don’t know of any sites with knots, but a couple have been given so far.  I too recommend that you go to a fly fishing shop and get some classes on casting and find someone to help teach you out on the water. If you have any more questions feel free to ask away.  There are a lot of people on this ng who have tons of knowledge and are willing to help.  The down side is that they are all at the conclave right now, but a few of us are still here and will help out as much as we can. Warren X#-[

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Alex, if you bought the rod, reel, and line as an outfit the line should be right for the rod. You need to purchase some tippet material ( 4X & 5X to start)   The tippet would be tied to the end of the leader with a blood knot or surgeon’s knot, and the butt of the leader attatched to the line with a nail knot. I don’t know of a web site that describes these knots, but I’m sure some of the guys on this group do. You really should get a good book on beginning fly fishing. "The Curtis Creek Manifesto" is the one most commonly recommended in this group. With only three weeks until your trip, your best bet would be to seek out a fly fishermen in your area that would be willing to spend a few hours with you to get you started. One aftrenoon with a competent fly fisherman will give you a jump start and will help you better understand what you read in books. If you have any more specific questions, feel free to email me and I’ll help as much as I can. Good luck! George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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hello everyone..well i am absolutly new to this whole scene of fly fishing. i am going camping in 3 weeks, and decided to go and buy a new reel and rod for the trip.. low and behold, i ended up buying a fly rod and reel with lines included,, ok I am now finding out that good be kinda tacky, and you get what you pay for..hehe.. but nonetheless i am goinmg to learn this, and i hope and intend to be somewhat successful on my first journey out, then while planning my next adventure, i will upgrade all the nessesary equipment,,, so this is what i got,, a south bend rod and reel, 6 1/2 ft. medium action, line class 4/5,, also got fly line (unsure of the weight, balanced floating?) and a knotless tapered leader 7 1/2 ft. 4x 3 lb test,,and some flies.. so i went to beginners net guide to fly fishing,  I attached my line to the reel ( i hope it is correct, i followed the illustrations), then tried to connect the leader and i am baffled,, so i believe i am looking for some help, and possibly other decent web sights that may be a little more informative,? so thank you for any advise,, even harsh critisism.  :) Alex( the new guy) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Ok, I"ve seen a few people mention Labrador in a couple of posts here so I thought I’d ask~ I’ve signed on for a trip up there, based mostly on a friends "hearsay" and word of mouth.  Can any of you give me your honest opinoin of the place..We will be at Coopers Minipi camps.  I’ve seen some of the pics from the place and have read alot about those BIG brookies and pike up there..Any input at all would be greatly appreciated…Thanks! Jeff Boks Fly Fishing~~~~~Just Do It

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<<Ok, I"ve seen a few people mention Labrador in a couple of posts here so I thought I’d ask~ I’ve signed on for a trip up there, based mostly on a friends "hearsay" and word of mouth.  Can any of you give me your honest opinoin of the place..We will be at Coopers Minipi camps.  I’ve seen some of the pics from the place and have read alot about those BIG brookies and pike up there..Any input at all would be greatly appreciated…Thanks! Expect to catch brookies in up to about 5 pounds.  Minipi Camps is a well run outfit and popular.  I have heard that the indians have taken a lot of fish from the river, however, so it isn’t as good as it used to be.  No confirmation on this — just listening to some folks who have been up there talk about it.   You might also consider Riverkeep Lodge on the Antikonac River. It is more remote than Minipi and I believe contains more and bigger fish including  pike, LL salmon, lake trout (togue), and whitefish as well as brookies. Regardless where you go, if you are in big brookie and pike water, take along a mouse fly (tied on a 2/0 hook).  Cast into running water and give it some action.  Be sure to wear your seatbelts while doing this!  <g Dave LaCourse

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Ok, I"ve seen a few people mention Labrador in a couple of posts here so I thought I’d ask~ I’ve signed on for a trip up there, based mostly on a friends "hearsay" and word of mouth.  Can any of you give me your honest opinoin of the place..We will be at Coopers Minipi camps.  I’ve seen some of the pics from the place and have read alot about those BIG brookies and pike up there..Any input at all would be greatly appreciated…Thanks!

Minipi just survived a big forest fire; you’ll hear lots of ‘war stories’ about it. — http://members.xoom.com/labradorian

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Hello RBPers! I read this post just the other day, especially the part regarding Old Towns being heavier than announced, and decided to check for myself. So I weighed my 17′ Penobscot, advertised at 65 lbs, and whaddaya know? It weighed 65 pounds! So, at least in this particular instance (and assuming the scale was accurate, etc.) Old Town’s number appears to be correct. Of course, as they say, your mileage may vary, but I’ve been very happy with the Penobscot.  It is my family’s first canoe, and we have had a lot of fun with it. And that, to me, is what it is all about.

Well, Our 16 ft Penobscot is a heavy dog.  I weighed it and it came to almost 75 lbs. It’s advertised at 63 lbs. The only additions are flotation and knee pads. I’m still trying figure out why its such a lump of lead! Eric L. Nilson Remove {Remove-to-mail} for email

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Thanks for your reply and comments, Andrew! I just didn’t want new folks (not unlike myself) to dismiss a manufacturer out-of-hand based upon one model or experience. I used RBP as one of my sources in selecting the Penobscot, so I truly believe people’s experiences here are valuable. Regarding materials, I think I would have liked to have been able to justify the Kevlar, but two to three times the price was just too much. I don’t know much about Kevlar’s real-life durability, but the weight reduction would have been nice. Maybe one of these days… Anyway, thanks again and let’s hope for an early spring! Carl Seals – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello RBPers! I read this post just the other day, especially the part regarding Old Towns being heavier than announced, and decided to check for myself. So I weighed my 17′ Penobscot, advertised at 65 lbs, and whaddaya know? It weighed 65 pounds! So, at least in this particular instance (and assuming the scale was accurate, etc.) Old Town’s number appears to be correct. Of course, as they say, your mileage may vary, but I’ve been very happy with the Penobscot.  It is my family’s first canoe, and we have had a lot of fun with it. And that, to me, is what it is all about. Happy paddline! Carl Seals Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced. When I said that, I meant specifically Old Town’s Discovery (polyethylene) boats.  The Penobscot is Royalex, so their weights for those boats may be accurate.  I’ve picked up Penobscots, and 65 lbs seems a reasonable amount (nicely designed boats too).  The 15-8 Discovery’s I’ve picked up are as difficult to lift as my friends wood-canvas boat (that is 80 lbs plus).  Old Town puts the weight of their Discovery’s much lower, about the same as their Royalex boats, even though the polyethylene is a much heavier material. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers

Hi Gene; One thing I outta say as long as we are talking about opinions, is; Like an old guide told me once, learn to cast sitting down, don’t argue, just do it. He was right of course. Casting while kneeling is not such a big task and makes flyfishing from a canoe a lot safer and more enjoyable. That said, of the boats you mentioned, the only one I have first hand experience with is the Old Town. I notice that it is the longest. Superficially at least, this indicates that it may be the fastest, and you can always learn to turn a fast boat, but you can never make a slow boat fast. This quality is important for dealing with wind, attainments in current and such. This is also a truism and therefore not always the case. I note that all the boats you mention are within a few pounds of the Old Town, which to me, knowing only what you have presented, makes it my choice. Anyway, there are some opinions for you. Have fun :wq

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Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs

I bought an OldTown Pathfinder for much the same purpose (it’s a shorter version of the Camper) and it was fine until I got hooked on canoeing and less interested in fishing.  I still flyfish from my Mad River Explorer. Stability has never been a problem, but switching between the fly rod and the paddle can be a nuisance…

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Hello RBPers! I read this post just the other day, especially the part regarding Old Towns being heavier than announced, and decided to check for myself. So I weighed my 17′ Penobscot, advertised at 65 lbs, and whaddaya know? It weighed 65 pounds! So, at least in this particular instance (and assuming the scale was accurate, etc.) Old Town’s number appears to be correct. Of course, as they say, your mileage may vary, but I’ve been very happy with the Penobscot.  It is my family’s first canoe, and we have had a lot of fun with it. And that, to me, is what it is all about. Happy paddline! Carl Seals I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape like a good fiberglass boat, like the Wenonah.  They’re only good for dropping off buildings, running into with your SUV, or paddling whitewater.  A good fiberglass boat will last for years. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello RBPers! I read this post just the other day, especially the part regarding Old Towns being heavier than announced, and decided to check for myself. So I weighed my 17′ Penobscot, advertised at 65 lbs, and whaddaya know? It weighed 65 pounds! So, at least in this particular instance (and assuming the scale was accurate, etc.) Old Town’s number appears to be correct. Of course, as they say, your mileage may vary, but I’ve been very happy with the Penobscot.  It is my family’s first canoe, and we have had a lot of fun with it. And that, to me, is what it is all about. Happy paddline! Carl Seals

Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.

When I said that, I meant specifically Old Town’s Discovery (polyethylene) boats.  The Penobscot is Royalex, so their weights for those boats may be accurate.  I’ve picked up Penobscots, and 65 lbs seems a reasonable amount (nicely designed boats too).  The 15-8 Discovery’s I’ve picked up are as difficult to lift as my friends wood-canvas boat (that is 80 lbs plus).  Old Town puts the weight of their Discovery’s much lower, about the same as their Royalex boats, even though the polyethylene is a much heavier material. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape                       ^^^^^^^ That’s not true, is it???

Yes, plastic, especially Old Town’s polyethylene as used in the Discovery series is the heaviest widely used canoe material.  Royalex is less so, but still heavy.  I’d try lifting the boats in question.  The 15-8 Discovery is listed at 72 lbs, but weighs closer to 85.  A Grumman 17′ is significantly lighter. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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     I’m not sure I understand the context here but David asks if it is true that royalex canoes will be less abrasion resistant than glass boats.  Well, I am one abrasion producing mojo and,  having both a glass WW boat (an Edge) and a royalite Rival,  I am here to tell you that the Rival takes abuse that would put the Edge back on the sawhorses for a serious session of patch and curse.  I wish that weren’t true because I love the Edge (even though it is much less forgiving) but theroyalex/royalite will take the beating much better.      I agree that your Old Town plastic boat might weigh more than they say.  I also think that glasas takes hits better than many , dare I say it, New Schoolers, might think.  But, for the big whap, like after the boof where there turns out to be one inch rather than one foot of landing water, plastic is better.  For flat water though, no question, go with glass or kevlar.. Chris Kelly

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape like a good fiberglass boat, like the Wenonah.  They’re only good for dropping off buildings, running into with your SUV, or paddling whitewater.  A good fiberglass boat will last for years. I feel that’s a little extreme.  He feels that weight is a problem. Being that most canoes are tandem and will be portaged and shuttled that way, an 85 pound canoe would be little problem to most folks. Weight is more of a consideration to individual kayakers.  Plastic or Royalex are good, sound choices; fiberglass is too breakable.

He’s not doing whitewater, he is using the canoe solo (I hope with a 14′ boat).  Usually one person gets the boat off the car, so heavy canoe are a problem.  Good fiberglass cloth layups (not chopper gun cheapies) are plenty strong.  A friend has been using his in whitewater for 10 years. To say they’re too "breakable" menas either you have little expereince with good fiberglass, or you are assuming the boat should be completely idiot proof, which I am not claiming. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape like a good fiberglass boat, like the Wenonah.  They’re only good for dropping off buildings, running into with your SUV, or paddling whitewater.  A good fiberglass boat will last for years.

I feel that’s a little extreme.  He feels that weight is a problem. Being that most canoes are tandem and will be portaged and shuttled that way, an 85 pound canoe would be little problem to most folks. Weight is more of a consideration to individual kayakers.  Plastic or Royalex are good, sound choices; fiberglass is too breakable.

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I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers

 Gene,  My opinion kind of originates from the perspective of *do you want to be seated or kneeling?*…  With the comfortable knee_pads sold today, I would find the kneeling position much more stable a platform in which to throw line out of…IMHO…particularly in dealing with casting itself…much more comfortable too, thus ..IMHO..I’d stay away from the flat barges…and go with a well designed kevlar.  A well designed hull with rock-solid secondary stablility gives me infinitely more security than sitting in a Camper… where I had to stay as still as I could when sitting…staying still while sitting?…trying to throw line..???? It just never worked for me…With the sensitive area being your top-heavy sitting position…your arm/shoulder area becomes a focal point of solidity…..??  when trying to set a #22 baetis emerger with a tight arm..??? good luck… $.02, steve drossel

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I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers Home Page URL: http://members.tripod.com/caddis1

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Gene, I own a Wenonah Spirit II in their Tuff-Weave material, basically reinforced fiberglass.  It is a very fine boat, and I would recommend Wenonah highly – though you didn’t say what material you were considering for the Fisherman.  I also like the OldTown Camper – in fact, I’m thinking of selling my Wenonah to buy a Camper, for both the added durability of Royalex, and because I can get the Camper in olive drab with stained seats and thwarts, which will be an advantage when duck hunting from it. One thing to watch out for – with the shorter, wider boats, you get more stability at the expense of paddling efficiency.  Personally, I wouldn’t go any wider than the 36 inch Camper, nor shorter than 16 feet, but then again, I’d give up some stability for paddling efficiency. Good Luck! Lou – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers Home Page URL: http://members.tripod.com/caddis1

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hi Eugene ,         i would also look at the Swift Algonquin series,probably the i6 ft. it will weigh less then these even in their swift tech and stronger. Check out                         www.swiftcanoe.com  Note that prices will be in canadian dollars.                                         Bo Sinanan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers Home Page URL: http://members.tripod.com/caddis1

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Which one felt best when you tried it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am about to buy a new canoe and am looking at the following four canoes: Mad River- Tahoe 14 37 inch beam wt 55lbs OldTown- Camper 16 36 inch beam wt 59lbs Novacraft-Angler 15 37 inch beam wt 54 lbs Wenonah-Fisherman 14 39 inch beam wt 62lbs I am a fly fisherman so with these canoes am looking for stability and ease of lifting and carrying. I would very much appreciate any input anyone has on these canoes to assist me in making my choice. Regards Gene Rogers Home Page URL: http://members.tripod.com/caddis1

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I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape like a good fiberglass boat, like the Wenonah.  They’re only good for dropping off buildings, running into with your SUV, or paddling whitewater.  A good fiberglass boat will last for years. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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I’d get the boat in fiberglass, the Fisherman is, not sure about the NovaCraft.  Don’t take Old Town’s weights seriosly, it will be heavier than announced.  Plastic, whether polyethylene or Royalex, will be less abrasion resistant, heavier, less repairable and will not hold its shape

                      ^^^^^^^ That’s not true, is it??? like a good fiberglass boat, like the Wenonah.  They’re only good for dropping off buildings, running into with your SUV, or paddling whitewater.  A good fiberglass boat will last for years. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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I’ve recently decided that I need to switch to fly fishing gear to catch the small specks that live in the beaver ponds and streams around my place in Ontario’s Haliburton Highlands.  From what information I have been able to gleam from the net I should get a 6 weight rod which will allow me to cast 5-7 weight line.  Is this correct or should I go for a lighter outfit.  The specks (brook trout) range from 3/4 to 3 lbs. Would a 6 weight rod be too light for 15 pound rainbows? Thanks for the help.

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A five weight will allow you to toss streamers while facilitating delicate presentation of small dry flies.  Lighter rods (2, 3, or 4 weight) will be more delicate, but they will not do as well as the five weight when you want to toss a heavy streamer. Do not mess around with line weights that are different from the recommended weight.  That is, if you get a five weight then use five weight lines.  Once your experience grows and your tastes develop, you may want to over- or underline your rod.  Until you are familiar with the feel of the recommended weight though, you are more likely to make your life difficult than to make a clever substitution. What you may want to do, however, is to get to different lines for your rod.  A nice combination would be a gently tapered line for flicking dry flies, and an aggressively tapered line for use with streamers or when it is windy. Six inch brookies are so different from lunker rainbows, that it would be hard to find tackle that is well suited to both.  Get a nice Brookie rod, and then mutter to yourself for a year before buying a big rainbow rod. Keep your stick on the ice, Thos. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve recently decided that I need to switch to fly fishing gear to catch the small specks that live in the beaver ponds and streams around my place in Ontario’s Haliburton Highlands.  From what information I have been able to gleam from the net I should get a 6 weight rod which will allow me to cast 5-7 weight line.  Is this correct or should I go for a lighter outfit.  The specks (brook trout) range from 3/4 to 3 lbs. Would a 6 weight rod be too light for 15 pound rainbows? Thanks for the help.

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Hello all,

[much snipped] Years ago I read, "Smoke is only smoke to me, now that I am old."  So, Fishing is fishing.  Like the Water Rat said in The Wind in the Willows: Come along over some time.  We’ll drop down to the river and make a day of it. Jess Thompson

Jesse Debate is healthy and often fun, providing it doesn’t degenerate into the slinging about of low grade insults.  I wouldn’t sweat it too much.  Fishing is about fun, especially shared fun.  Hopefully, some of that fun gets shared in ROFF too.  But I’ve noticed that it’s the contentious issues that get all the ink.  I post a couple of flyfishing stories and they’re barely noticed, but my whining about rod prices generated about 200 repsonses when you count in the derivatives.  I guess it’s just human nature.   Anyway. I had a great year of fishing, and I hope everyone else that reads this ng, did too.  Hopefully, in the new year, we’ll catch that big brown that spurned all our offerings last summer. Peter

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Well Peter, perhaps you whine better than you write. Just kidding, I enjoyed your stories. — Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail Ernie Harrison <snip I’ve noticed that it’s the contentious issues that get all the ink.  I

post a couple of flyfishing stories and  they’re barely noticed, but my whining about rod prices generated about 200 repsonses when you count in the derivatives.  I guess it’s just human nature.   <snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter

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Hello all, Please believe that I stumbled quite innocently into the fracus of C & E versus C & R.  And quite tardily.  Believe me also when I say that though I am old, I am not to old to learn, and to re-learn.  I should retract the statement  that I "slanted {the article Catch and Eat} purposely to arouse debate."   Talking over the pros and cons of a question, in a friendly fashion, I enjoy, but not dispute and name-calling.   It’s more correct to say that I wrote it rather, partly, in defense of those who received venomous messages for their positions.  And, because I had seen at times, on TV, what appeared to be careless C & R; and, because I think it’s okay to eat a fish now and then.  And surely, in the heat of reaction, I got a bit carried away.  If I had let the article cool longer, I would have toned down some of the more inflammatory passages.   The kind of fishing that’s done, C & E, C & R, fly, spoon, plug, bait–it all depends on who when what where and why.  The conditions, the fishing pressure, the fish populations, the locale. . . . But no matter what, we all like to fish; we all want to protect fish and fishing.   Mark Kelly, Steve Dsrt Traveler, Peter Charles, Moe, Ralph, Ernie, others (I don’t have all the names in front of me) have made good points–but it comes down to what Mark said–we all like to fish, we ought all,  finally, to support each other, and that’s exactly what I want to come back to. I’ve eaten  fish, I’ve  released fish, I’ve caught ‘em through the long years on worms, eggs, spoons, plugs, flies, treble hooks, barbless hooks, tiny hooks, big hooks, wild fish, hatchery fish, in pretty places, mucky places, and all of it,  any of it, well, "if it ain’t fun" I don’t know what is.  And the older you get, the more pleasant the memories of it all are.  Like all of us, I just wish we could all do more of it.   It’s fun if you catch fish or don’t catch fish, fun to watch others fish, to watch others catch fish.  I think it was Mark who fetched me up, properly, to remember that if we fight among ourselves, we don’t do the fishing world any good at all, but rather harm.   So I don’t want to rub sores, nor much care any more to wander off into the realms of mythology or animalism or primitivism or anthropology or philosophy. . .fishin’ is fishin’.   When we come down to earth, we know that.  In our better selves, we all know it:   Fishin’ is fishin’.   Exactly that. Years ago I read, "Smoke is only smoke to me, now that I am old."  So, Fishing is fishing.  Like the Water Rat said in The Wind in the Willows: Come along over some time.  We’ll drop down to the river and make a day of it. Jess Thompson

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Hello all, Please believe that I stumbled quite innocently into the fracus of C & E versus C & R.  And quite tardily.  Believe me also when I say that though I am old, I am not to old to learn, and to re-learn.  I should retract the statement  that I "slanted {the article Catch and Eat} purposely to arouse debate."   Talking over the pros and cons of a question, in a friendly fashion, I enjoy, but not dispute and name-calling.

Well Jess, that whole subject is something of a sore spot around here. You can’t even mention it without starting a huge rucus. It’s more correct to say that I wrote it rather, partly, in defense of those who received venomous messages for their positions.  And, because I had seen at times, on TV, what appeared to be careless C & R; and, because I think it’s okay to eat a fish now and then.  And surely, in the heat of reaction, I got a bit carried away.  If I had let the article cool longer, I would have toned down some of the more inflammatory passages.

Ah!  Not to worry. <snip So I don’t want to rub sores, nor much care any more to wander off into the realms of mythology or animalism or primitivism or anthropology or philosophy. . .fishin’ is fishin’.   When we come down to earth, we know that.  In our better selves, we all know it:   Fishin’ is fishin’. Exactly that.

I agree whole-heartedly.  I seems though, that there is a rather curious factor involved.  It seems that FFing is taking on a religious quality complete with orthodoxy, traditions, dogma, and theology.  It schmecks of fundamentalism with the "our way or no way" attitude you see on our trout streams.  A blinkered ideology that leaves little or no room for ideas outside strict adherance to the status quo. But you sir are right.  Fishin’ is Fishin’.  No more no less.  I can’t save the world, hell it won’t even save the rivers.  Better to enjoy it for what it is, rather than what we may want it to be. Years ago I read, "Smoke is only smoke to me, now that I am old."  So, Fishing is fishing.  Like the Water Rat said in The Wind in the Willows: Come along over some time.  We’ll drop down to the river and make a day of it. Jess Thompson

Well said sir. </c — </chaz Chaz Clover The Paved Earth Society http://www.rmi.net/~clover/pave_the_earth   "Why Not Just Get On With It?"

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I am going to buy a new 20 ft pontoon.  The manufacturer sells it with either 25 or 40 hp motors.  I have already decided to opt for the 40 but don’t know which brand to get.  They sell Force, Mariner, or Honda.  I understand that the quality of the Honda is excellent but have no experience with that brand.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Also, any comments about "add-ons"–I’m going to use the  boat for cruising as well as fishing. Bill

Hi Bill, I am looking for a 30 to 40 HP myself. I think that I might get a Honda 4 cycle. They are more money, heavier, but are quieter and get better gas milage. My next choice would be a Yamaha 2 cycle. What do others think? Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Go for the Honda.  Much better engine from reliability and maintenance point of view.  If the Honda is too much, then go with the Mariner.  Stay away from the Force.  It is a stripped down version made solely for the low end price market, which means it is also a low end motor. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to buy a new 20 ft pontoon.  The manufacturer sells it with either 25 or 40 hp motors.  I have already decided to opt for the 40 but don’t know which brand to get.  They sell Force, Mariner, or Honda.  I understand that the quality of the Honda is excellent but have no experience with that brand.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Also, any comments about "add-ons"–I’m going to use the  boat for cruising as well as fishing. Bill

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Get the Mariner. It is more dependable and has a better garintee. I baught a Mariner 3 years ago. I had a small problem with the coil and they gave me a brand new motor no questions asked.

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:I am going to buy a new 20 ft pontoon.  The manufacturer sells it with :either 25 or 40 hp motors.  I have already decided to opt for the 40 but :don’t know which brand to get.  They sell Force, Mariner, or Honda.  I :understand that the quality of the Honda is excellent but have no :experience with that brand.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Also, Hey Bill, I’m new to this group and your post caught my attention. I just got back from Florida where i rented a 20 foot pontoon with a 30 horse. It was pushing to get 15 to 18 mph ! I rented the same size boat last year with a 60 i believe and i was passing runabouts that were on plane !  If you ever need to  cover some real distance you might opt for bigger motor. If your just out scooting around small lake the smaller one will do but dont expect to get anywhere fast with that 25 Kevin

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I am going to buy a new 20 ft pontoon.  The manufacturer sells it with either 25 or 40 hp motors.  I have already decided to opt for the 40 but don’t know which brand to get.  They sell Force, Mariner, or Honda.  I understand that the quality of the Honda is excellent but have no experience with that brand.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Also, any comments about "add-ons"–I’m going to use the  boat for cruising as well as fishing. Bill

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I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

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No don’t delay go then! Best fishing is may-june into July. fishing holds into July Aug only when the weather is unusually coldin spring early summer. Early July will give you a shot at traveller sedge hatches. other than that major hatches (chironomids, damsels, dragons) are over or on the wane. Expect to fish scuds and leeches Good luck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly      in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

Brian Chan has an excellent video  "Stillwater strategies vol II" if your looking for techniques and patterns in Kamloops area. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

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I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort.

I will be fishing up in the Thompson-Nicola plateau (i.e. between Merritt and Kamloops) in about 4 weeks. Some of the higher lakes will still be iced at that time, but you’ll have no problems by July. As for further north – again, you should be out of ice by late May virtually everywhere in the area. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer.

Because of the snowpack, some of the *streams* will be a bit tough this year. However, most streams in that area are closed until June 30 anyway. The lakes will be just fine. 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (250) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (250) 368-9341

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

My friends and I are going the May long weekend to 100 mile house, hopefully the weather is warm, we plan on hitting the lowest elevation lakes around the area, concentrating on shallower lakes. A good source for info is a tackle shop just out side of 100 mile house near Lac la Hache(sp?), the shop is called FLY-R-US I think. The owner is very informative of which lake is fishable. You can’t miss the shop, it is right on the highway, look for the big sign of a fly. I think July should be alright for fishing in 100 mile area.

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Hi,Looking for a good lightweight outfit,to be used on a river in the U.K. The 3wt is a SAGE 389-3LL, 8ft9inch for a 3wt 3piece. I can’t recommend this rod highly enough as well as the 7ft9 for a 3wt line (you can cast beautifully only the leader as well as the whole line). If you need a shorter rod look at the Scott Power Ply, a 6ft10inch for a 3wt (very short but roll cast like a dream, Thomas Urbig

I agree with Thomas, but my small stream rods are the Sage LL 279, a 7"9" 2 wt, and a Powell SS  6′6" 2/3.  Both are sweetheart rods, that are great under cover.  Although I’m not sure you havve to spend as much as we did to get good performance with light gear.  I have used a St Croix 7′6" 3wt Legend (cost about $170USD) and I understand that the Cabela’s FT and PT series are also fine rods ($200 and $140USD respectively) jg

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,Looking for a good lightweight outfit,to be used on a river in the U.K. The Derbyshire Wye is a lovely stretch,with overhanging trees,weirs and everything you can think of. But i feel when i`ve fished it the past i`ve been over gunned. This has been with a 4 weight 8 foot rod,to 1.5 pound tippets and almost always flies,tied on 18 through 22. Hear the Americans have knowledge of 1 and 2 weight outfits. Would love some feedback on this. Any info relevant to the lightweight approach and tying small flies(I know there is a group for this) would be most welcome. — All things great,come to those who wait. Not always the case,me thinks. K.A.White

Keith, a 3wt is my standard trout rod here in New England and late summer and fall I stick with a 1wt when stalking finicky trout and fishing very small streams. The 3wt handles almost anything you ask from a trout rod (small to medium streams), the 1wt restricts you to some degree. Although you can cast quite some distance and will be able to throw a small streamer it won’t look beautiful and isn’t really a domain of a 1wt. On the positive side you have a rod which protects even a 1 pound tippet and enables you to trick a 5 pound trout on a #28 midge/1 lbs tippet without troubles. As far as dry fly fishing goes you are OK with flies #12 and smaller, but midge fishing with a 1wt is the domain of this rod. Also nymphing shallow water (you can cast up to a 0.4 g tin shot without much trouble) is great. Drawback, the 1wt line has not enough mass to lift the split shot off the water when doing a roll cast. I build my own 1wt from an Orvis blank. The 3wt is a SAGE 389-3LL, 8ft9inch for a 3wt 3piece. I can’t recommend this rod highly enough as well as the 7ft9 for a 3wt line (you can cast beautifully only the leader as well as the whole line). If you need a shorter rod look at the Scott Power Ply, a 6ft10inch for a 3wt (very short but roll cast like a dream, the SAGE analogs (356, 366) are to stiff for my feelings (although I like very fast rods). Hope that helps, if not mail back. Thomas — Thomas Urbig

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,Looking for a good lightweight outfit,to be used on a river in the U.K. The Derbyshire Wye is a lovely stretch,with overhanging trees,weirs and everything you can think of. But i feel when i`ve fished it the past i`ve been over gunned. This has been with a 4 weight 8 foot rod,to 1.5 pound tippets and almost always flies,tied on 18 through 22. Hear the Americans have knowledge of 1 and 2 weight outfits. Would love some feedback on this. Any info relevant to the lightweight approach and tying small flies(I know there is a group for this) would be most welcome. — All things great,come to those who wait. Not always the case,me thinks. K.A.White

This might not be the help you are looking for.  For myself, I just get by with a 4wt in a moderate wind.  That’s only on the days it isn’t really windy around here.  At any rate, Orvis sells 1wt and 2 wt rods and lines. Buy and try…  It’s the surest way to find out if it’s what you’re after, and if you don’t like it you have added to your rod collection.  Something for the grandkids.  "Yep, sonny, this is what I used to catch the big ones on when I was your age."

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Hi,Looking for a good lightweight outfit,to be used on a river in the U.K. The Derbyshire Wye is a lovely stretch,with overhanging trees,weirs and everything you can think of. But i feel when i`ve fished it the past i`ve been over gunned. This has been with a 4 weight 8 foot rod,to 1.5 pound tippets and almost always flies,tied on 18 through 22. Hear the Americans have knowledge of 1 and 2 weight outfits. Would love some feedback on this. Any info relevant to the lightweight approach and tying small flies(I know there is a group for this) would be most welcome. — All things great,come to those who wait. Not always the case,me thinks. K.A.White

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I will be in New Mexico between November 6th and 19th.  I am planing to fish the San Juan.  Can anyone tell me how the fishing is that time of the year?  Are there other rivers that fish well in Nov?  Any suggestions regarding flies would also be appreciated.

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I will be in New Mexico between November 6th and 19th.  I am planing to fish the San Juan.  Can anyone tell me how the fishing is that time of the year?  Are there other rivers that fish well in Nov?  Any suggestions regarding flies would also be appreciated.

The fishing on San Juan seems to never change! It is always excellent. Please dress for all weather types and chest waders are mandatory. The water is between 36 and 42 degrees. We also just had a cold front come through and cooled things off. Check out http://www.thereellife.com/reellife/ for the fishing reports of this area and for the San Juan. I maintain this site for the store it represents. T. Edwards

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