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Trip Report – Titusville

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Hi Folks, I made the long trip from Oz to Orlando for a conference and on Saturday 5th of May got out to Titusville for a fish. I wanted to stop in at The Flyfisherman store, but they didn’t open until 10am, so I sniffed out a likely spot on Mosquito Lagoon about 8am and got started. It was a windy as hell which limited my options and the water was pretty dirty. I put on a white and pink clouser and nervous of crocs, oops, gators, started wading. After 45 min of nothing, I hooked up solid to a decent sized fish in knee deep water that turned out to be a spotted sea trout about 3lb. Soon after I got another about 4lb or so. I really wanted to catch a red so I packed up and went into the Flyfisherman for help. The guys there were really friendly and Chris there drew me a map to one of his favourite secret spots (he doesn’t mind showing them to visitors from a far ). I went forth to spot X on the Indian R with some prefered local flies, being told to shuffle out to a knee deep grass bank and wait patiently for something to happen. After about 20 min, 3 or 4 big red tails popped up through the wind chop about 40 feet to my right. The wind was at that nasty level where flyline comes out of the rod tip sideways. I took 2 or 3 tries to get the fly to them and I ended up slamming it down right over where I thought they were. To cut a sad story short, I don’t know if I spooked them or if they just doddled along their way invisible under the choppy surface – but I didn’t get a touch off them and lost track of them. I stayed out there another 2 hours and didn’t see another thing! In calmer conditions, this kind of fishing would be fantastic, alas, I had my chances and dudded out completely on the reds. I will return!!!!! Thanks to Anis Popp and R Dean for their advice and putting me onto The Flyfisherman. Cheers John K Sydney Flyrodders — John Knight ALEMITE LUBREQUIP PTY LTD mobile 0407 959100 office 61-2-99382999 fax 61-2-99053631

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I stayed out there another 2 hours and didn’t see another thing! In calmer conditions, this kind of fishing would be fantastic, alas, I had my chances and dudded out completely on the reds. I will return!!!!!

Nice report.  I’ve only fished FL once since leaving Gainesville in the early 90s.  Your story brought back pleasant memories. At least you dudded out on the reds and not on the redds.  ;-)  Better luck next time. JR

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I’m glad you enjoyed yourself. I assume you were told Redds are quite moody and what spooks them one minute drives them to mall a fly the next. When the shrimp are running at haul over they’ll nail just about anything. Possibly the fish were cognizant of the shock to your nervous system that would have occurred if you had tied into one of the biggie redds of the area. When you consider most of them caught are too BIG to keep you can see why this is a popular fishing spot. — John Popp in Sanford Fl.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Folks, I made the long trip from Oz to Orlando for a conference and on Saturday 5th of May got out to Titusville for a fish. I wanted to stop in at The Flyfisherman store, but they didn’t open until 10am, so I sniffed out a likely spot on Mosquito Lagoon about 8am and got started. It was a windy as hell which limited my options and the water was pretty dirty. I put on a white and pink clouser and nervous of crocs, oops, gators, started wading. After 45 min of nothing, I hooked up solid to a decent sized fish in knee deep water that turned out to be a spotted sea trout about 3lb. Soon after I got another about 4lb or so. I really wanted to catch a red so I packed up and went into the Flyfisherman for help. The guys there were really friendly and Chris there drew me a map to one of his favourite secret spots (he doesn’t mind showing them to visitors from a far ). I went forth to spot X on the Indian R with some prefered local flies, being told to shuffle out to a knee deep grass bank and wait patiently for something to happen. After about 20 min, 3 or 4 big red tails popped up through the wind chop about 40 feet to my right. The wind was at that nasty level where flyline comes out of the rod tip sideways. I took 2 or 3 tries to get the fly to them and I ended up slamming it down right over where I thought they were. To cut a sad story short, I don’t know if I spooked them or if they just doddled along their way invisible under the choppy surface – but I didn’t get a touch off them and lost track of them. I stayed out there another 2 hours and didn’t see another thing! In calmer conditions, this kind of fishing would be fantastic, alas, I had my chances and dudded out completely on the reds. I will return!!!!! Thanks to Anis Popp and R Dean for their advice and putting me onto The Flyfisherman. Cheers John K Sydney Flyrodders — John Knight ALEMITE LUBREQUIP PTY LTD mobile 0407 959100 office 61-2-99382999 fax 61-2-99053631

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The ones I saw I guessed at 10-15lb. I was just above knee deep and they had big fat tails sticking up 4"-5" from the chop. It was good fun – Chris at The Flyfisherman said he has seen them tailing in 3 feet of water so I know what you mean about maximum sizes. When they are close by can you hear or feel them? About the time I saw them I sensed croaking or popping sounds coming up my spine and at the back of my neck – was that them or something else (like shrimps) they  were feeding on? Sorry about the name John, I went from memory yesterday. Regards John K Sydney Flyrodders

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Thanks to Anis Popp and R Dean for their advice and putting me onto The Flyfisherman.

You’re more than welcome. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cheers John K Sydney Flyrodders

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– John Popp in Sanford Fl.

The ones I saw I guessed at 10-15lb. I was just above knee deep and they had big fat tails sticking up 4"-5" from the chop. It was good fun – Chris at The Flyfisherman said he has seen them tailing in 3 feet of water so I know what you mean about maximum sizes. When they are close by can you hear or feel them? About the time I saw them I sensed croaking or popping sounds coming up my spine and at the back of my neck – was that them or something else (like shrimps) they  were feeding on?

They do croak, like a croaker. Most people miss that as they fish from boats. They must have been on a young oyster bed, they make a popimg sound as the fish crush the shells. they will often also leave a cloud like discoloration in the water. It’s not bottom but the crushed up shell fish remains they emit. As for gators, they do frequent the intercoastal occasionally but prefer fresh water right now folks who have pools close to open water better look before they leap. by the way you were just a bit early due to the weather, but then a good spot kinda beats a brookie. And I was hopeing for you. John Popp in Sanford Fl. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry about the name John, I went from memory yesterday. Regards John K Sydney Flyrodders

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Hey Dean;     While you were in G-ville did you ever get over to St.Augestine Beach to fish flounder with a fly? I tied into a winter flounder over there about 20 yrs ago that measured exactly 3′. Did it on a 6wt fiberglass, it took about 45 min. to get it out of the water. It spit the fly when on the beach. Man we hustled to keep it from being a catch and return. My wife grabbed the rod and pinned it and I belly flopped on it. It was delicious. I think that was a once in a lifetime experience for a po boy. — John Popp in Sanford Fl.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks to Anis Popp and R Dean for their advice and putting me onto The Flyfisherman. You’re more than welcome. TC, R Cheers John K Sydney Flyrodders

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I thought the popping sound was them – damn I’m cranky I never got one. I saw a big gator on the Mosquito Lagoon side – about 8′ – laying on the fresh water side of the roadway. A kid picnicking with his parents pointed it out to me, he was throwing bait at it. Dopey things – Believe me, there is no way I would have been that close to an Aussie croc without a .44! Cheers John K

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Whitefish

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Yeah, you guys better watch out or all my bottom dwelling junkyard dogs will…will…will….well just watch out or you’ll be sorry! {:-)

I think I already am sorry (or so I’ve been told)<g. — Charlie…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again. No shit? — Charlie…         careful, duc!  you may be set upon by the hundreds (or thousands, even) of angry lurkers who get upset when george is trifled with.  think of your family, man! wayno

____  Someday, this year, when you make a mental error, you just might talk about fly fishing for once.  Show up at the Jackson Hole airport and I’ll pick you and Anthony up personally.  I would like to take you both on some very special float trips.  I would even give you my private phone number if you change your mind.  Summers with a son come and go.  The time is NOW for that special trip with the lad.  Do what you can.  Give it some serious, serious, serious thought. : ) — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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George, I believe that you missed the point of Jeff’s post.  I don’t believe that he was disputing the fact that you caught a Whitefish of that size under those circumstances.  At least in my mind, he was referring to your feeling the need to post about the incident in light of "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it.". BTW I have caught several Whitefish in that size range in the Clearwater while fishing for steelhead, but always have considered the pursuit of fishing records somewhat silly. Bob Weinberger

______  I understand what you’re saying but what many don’t know is, Charlie Brooks was retired military.  The term, "no sweat" was common with him. Fishing for records for you, I imagine is silly and serves no purpose.  In the early years, records helped our company and products.  They still do.  I don’t pursue them actively anymore or specifically, but should one come my way, I would honor the fish, and after the measurements, I  now release them.  You can do that now.  One doesn’t need to kill a fish to make it a world record. That aside, thanks for the thoughts Bob.  I’m going to have to check the record books for the present and see what the Whitefish "high water mark" is now, for the record. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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George, did you even stop to read what I quoted?  Read it again, and then again, until you finally figure it out. "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff _____  No, I’m not right, you’re wrong.  What you don’t know is infinitely greater than what you know.  Call up Sam Melner, Eugene, OR area.  He’ll confirm how wrong you are.

Regards, Jeff

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"No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it."

Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff

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"No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff

_____  No, I’m not right, you’re wrong.  What you don’t know is infinitely greater than what you know.  Call up Sam Melner, Eugene, OR area.  He’ll confirm how wrong you are. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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Once again its "great minds discuss ideals, mediocre minds discuss events and small minds discuss people"  and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff

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Once again its "great minds discuss ideals, mediocre minds discuss events and small minds discuss people"  and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again.

Thanks again, anyhow J.C.. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff

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and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again.

No shit? — Charlie…

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and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again. No shit? — Charlie…

Interesting… R

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and the intelectual level or ROFF rises again. No shit? — Charlie…

        careful, duc!  you may be set upon by the hundreds (or thousands, even) of angry lurkers who get upset when george is trifled with.  think of your family, man! wayno

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who get upset when george is trifled

George who? — Charlie…

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who get upset when george is trifled George who? — Charlie…

Adams? <g Warren X#-[

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George, I believe that you missed the point of Jeff’s post.  I don’t believe that he was disputing the fact that you caught a Whitefish of that size under those circumstances.  At least in my mind, he was referring to your feeling the need to post about the incident in light of "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it.". BTW I have caught several Whitefish in that size range in the Clearwater while fishing for steelhead, but always have considered the pursuit of fishing records somewhat silly. Bob Weinberger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." Uh, yeah, right. Regards, Jeff _____  No, I’m not right, you’re wrong.  What you don’t know is infinitely greater than what you know.  Call up Sam Melner, Eugene, OR area.  He’ll confirm how wrong you are. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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who get upset when george is trifled George who? — Charlie… Adams? <g

Yeah, you guys better watch out or all my bottom dwelling junkyard dogs will…will…will….well just watch out or you’ll be sorry! {:-) George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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Whitefish as table fare is much better than trout.  The late/great Charlie Brooks always went after whitefish for dinner.  Hated eating trout.  Which some of know is a much better choice. Thing is, in the Madison are some of the largest whitefish known and in the surrounding area.  I caught and released (to my error) a whitefish that exceeded five pounds while Charlie Brooks sat on the bank sipping a cold bottle of beer.  In fact, that is all he carried in his wicker basket on his hip.  It was always loaded with beer. "Biggest damned whitefish I’ve ever seen George!" he yells.  As I quickly weigh it and release it.  "How much it weigh?" he adds after another swig. "Five pounds two ounces," I shout back as I stagger to shore for a cold one. I walk up to Charlie who is enjoying a small fire I built, he and two more friends, one whom I now forget the name of but the other is Sam Melner of "Fly Fisherman’s Bookcase," Croton on the Hudson. "I think you just released a world record George," he adds matter of factly. "How would you know that?" I counter as I decap a brown, super-cold bottle of beer from the river. "I’ve been fishing those things my whole life and its the only damned fish worth a hoot for eating.  That, was a big fish, I’m telling you." "Well, it so happens I have a diary here with all the fly fishing records it it," as I start thumbing through it.  Under "Whitefish" I see that five pounds is indeed MORE than enough to establish a new world record. I turn the little manual around and hand it to Charlie.  "Dang!" I laugh, "If you’re not right!" "No sweat George, only you and I need to know you did it." as he offers a toast to bump.  We click bottles and Charlie finishes the beer.  He returns the empty and pulls out another cold one.  "It’s the memories man!  It’s the memories!" We all sit back and laugh our hearts out.   "Good show," adds Sam. True story. — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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Vintage Fly Rod and Reel—Help!!!!

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Hi, I am interested in trying my hand a fly fishing this Spring, and I have been given a Horrocks Ibbotson Model 1104 bakelite fly reel and a Langley fly rod that is about 8′ long and came in an aluminum tube.  Everything is in real nice shape, and the reel has the original box.  This set looks to be from the 30’s or 40’s(?) and I am wondering as to whether it would be better to try and learn on this vintage equipment, or sell it/trade it and try and get a more modern outfit.  Any suggestions appreciated, especially if any one can tell me what weight line I should equip it with or have any other hints.  Please email Thank you, Jim K Media, PA  

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Jim, Horrocks-Ibbotson rods were very cheap, production rods.  Even ones in good shape aren’t worth much today.  Go ahead and fish it ot your heart’s delight. Pete C

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE: Jesus *is* King of the Jews! *!***! !!***

CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE: Jesus *is* King of the Jews! *!***! !!***

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[snip] I believe he also said that fishing with nymphs was the same as bait fishing, except without having to get your hands dirty. Got him in some kind of trouble, for sure. — Charlie…

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why do chicks dig jesus? (hold arms in shape of cross) Cause he’s hung like this  :) 12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] I believe he also said that fishing with nymphs was the same as bait fishing, except without having to get your hands dirty. Got him in some kind of trouble, for sure. — Charlie…

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12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen!

hey tom b.    don’t this ’splain alot :) –Wataugan Walt

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Remember to view New Testament accounts with skepticism.  Most of the witnesses to major events recorded there were fishermen! Al Soroka Vancouver, B.C.

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12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen! hey tom b.    don’t this ’splain alot :) –Wataugan Walt

Yep. Next, he’ll blame it on his friends and clientele. tb — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong."   H.L. Mencken

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We already had some evidence. Albeit rather inconclusive. Quite a few of Georges

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tree gods….

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are on a beautiful mountain stream, where a big, wily wild brown is at peace, resting and content at sipping the invertebrate that comes his way. His location is in a undercut bank with overhanging rhododendron within two feet of the water surface. As you get over the shakes, you plan for minutes (feels like hours) on how to get that sidearm/roll/whatchamacallit humphreyesque cast ahead of the fish and under the rhodo into that perfect drift. After you stealthily move into optimum position you gingerly cast with confidence and unleash your favorite fly. As it is magically approaching that perfect spot, a previously unnoticed dead rhodo twig rears its ugly, graying stub and snatches your fly within inches of miraculous touchdown. As you are gently tugging on your line in the impractical hope that it may softly dislodge, the trees sway (laugh) in the wind and the brown rockets upstream in a big swoosh chucklin’ all the way.

As they say in NE Tennessee ….’been thar done that’ — Good Fishing and Tight Lines             | /              |/    (         /|     —     / | C. Michael Bullard

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You are on a beautiful mountain stream, where a big, wily wild brown is at peace, resting and content at sipping the invertebrate that comes his way. His location is in a undercut bank with overhanging rhododendron within two feet of the water surface. As you get over the shakes, you plan for minutes (feels like hours) on how to get that sidearm/roll/whatchamacallit humphreyesque cast ahead of the fish and under the rhodo into that perfect drift. After you stealthily move into optimum position you gingerly cast with confidence and unleash your favorite fly. As it is magically approaching that perfect spot, a previously unnoticed dead rhodo twig rears its ugly, graying stub and snatches your fly within inches of miraculous touchdown. As you are gently tugging on your line in the impractical hope that it may softly dislodge, the trees sway (laugh) in the wind and the brown rockets upstream in a big swoosh chucklin’ all the way. As they say in NE Tennessee ….’been thar done that’ — Good Fishing and Tight Lines             | /             |/   (         /|    –     / | C. Michael Bullard

– yup, too many times…. btw, what part of TN you from? –Walt

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: sounds about right. only a couple of trees? I’ve been thinking of just : throwing a few beat-up flies to the wind before my first cast to : appease …. : 4. any combo of the above  (depending upon their moods)     : : Watch out when they’re really ticked, like when you volunteer a handful : of used tatters.  They’ve been known to take rod tips.  Ouch! : : BobW : :         : Acute observations Bob. In addition I might add: : You are on a beautiful mountain stream, where a big, wily wild brown is : at peace, resting and content at sipping the invertebrate that comes his …. : dislodge, the trees sway (laugh) in the wind and the brown rockets : upstream in a big swoosh chucklin’ all the way. : The tree gods are smiling, for they are appeased. : –Walt I also found it doesn’t pay to try to get one back even in you can. One occasion I was able to bend down the branch in question and unhook it. Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH! Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491              

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I also found it doesn’t pay to try to get one back even in you can. One occasion I was able to bend down the branch in question and unhook it. Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH!

Being snagged is almost as bad is bending a branch to retrieve a fly to a point where the spring loaded tension  causes one to lose their balance….this usually happens (at least to me) at a point where the water is much deeper then the tops of my waders…..bummer :( — Good Fishing and Tight Lines             | /              |/    (         /|     —     / | C. Michael Bullard

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Mike laments: <snip Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH!

Bonus!!!! Two for the price of one. Patrick

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I also found it doesn’t pay to try to get one back even in you can. One occasion I was able to bend down the branch in question and unhook it. Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH!

Lucky you weren’t in Germany Mike, the next angler to come along would have been morally obliged to ram a knife through your head ;^) — Stuart Nuttall (Replace ‘nospam’ with ‘warboyz’ to reply by e-mail)

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Stuart Nuttall hilariously writes:

<<Lucky you weren’t in Germany Mike, the next angler to come along would have been morally obliged to ram a knife through your head ;^) — LOL.  You are *baaaaaaad*, Stuart.  Bad, bad, bad.  d;0) Dave L.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I also found it doesn’t pay to try to get one back even in you can. One occasion I was able to bend down the branch in question and unhook it. Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH! Lucky you weren’t in Germany Mike, the next angler to come along would have been morally obliged to ram a knife through your head ;^) — Stuart Nuttall

Nicely put, Stuart.  I’m still laughing! Bob Scott

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I also found it doesn’t pay to try to get one back even in you can. One occasion I was able to bend down the branch in question and unhook it. Then I let go of the branch, and WHAM, this unnoticed treble hook offering from a bait chucker lodged itself in the palm of my hand. Needless to say it was not debarbed. OUCH! Lucky you weren’t in Germany Mike, the next angler to come along would have been morally obliged to ram a knife through your head ;^) — Stuart Nuttall (Replace ‘nospam’ with ‘warboyz’ to reply by e-mail)

Saturday night, 10 pm on the east coast of the US, wondering why I’m reading ROFF instead of doing what normal people do on a Saturday night, and I suddently get to laugh my ass off.  Thanks Stuart. Mark Faulkner

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Once I lost I fly in extremely high water and could not get to the tree to retieve it.  The following spring the Tree God blessed me and I found the exact same tree and retrieved the fly…   can’t figure out why I wasn’t blessed with fish… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sounds about right. only a couple of trees? I’ve been thinking of just throwing a few beat-up flies to the wind before my first cast to appease the tree gods so that I can fish w/o losing tippett. But I’m sure they will ignore my paltry offerings and go for the real thing. In my experience the tree-gods only accept offerings consisting of either: 1. the last copy of the only fly that works 2. the one you just paid 2 bucks for and has yet to see water 3. the next one you just paid 2 bucks for & still hasn’t seen water and is attached to the last 2 feet of 6X in the county. 4. any combo of the above  (depending upon their moods) Watch out when they’re really ticked, like when you volunteer a handful of used tatters.  They’ve been known to take rod tips.  Ouch! BobW Acute observations Bob. In addition I might add: You are on a beautiful mountain stream, where a big, wily wild brown is at peace, resting and content at sipping the invertebrate that comes his way. His location is in a undercut bank with overhanging rhododendron within two feet of the water surface. As you get over the shakes, you plan for minutes (feels like hours) on how to get that sidearm/roll/whatchamacallit humphreyesque cast ahead of the fish and under the rhodo into that perfect drift. After you stealthily move into optimum position you gingerly cast with confidence and unleash your favorite fly. As it is magically approaching that perfect spot, a previously unnoticed dead rhodo twig rears its ugly, graying stub and snatches your fly within inches of miraculous touchdown. As you are gently tugging on your line in the impractical hope that it may softly dislodge, the trees sway (laugh) in the wind and the brown rockets upstream in a big swoosh chucklin’ all the way. The tree gods are smiling, for they are appeased. –Walt — The Blue Ridge Book Gallery | We are located 8 miles south of Boone on Rt. 1 Box 975-23            | Hiway 105 in Foscoe in the heart of the Banner Elk, NC 28604        | beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains. Please (704) 963-5001              | visit us when you’re in the area.                            |  Thanks….Marie & Walter Winter http://www.mercury.net/~wgwinter/         also on Interloc…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sounds about right. only a couple of trees? I’ve been thinking of just throwing a few beat-up flies to the wind before my first cast to appease the tree gods so that I can fish w/o losing tippett. But I’m sure they will ignore my paltry offerings and go for the real thing. In my experience the tree-gods only accept offerings consisting of either: 1. the last copy of the only fly that works   2. the one you just paid 2 bucks for and has yet to see water 3. the next one you just paid 2 bucks for & still hasn’t seen water and is attached to the last 2 feet of 6X in the county. 4. any combo of the above  (depending upon their moods)     Watch out when they’re really ticked, like when you volunteer a handful of used tatters.  They’ve been known to take rod tips.  Ouch! BobW

Acute observations Bob. In addition I might add: You are on a beautiful mountain stream, where a big, wily wild brown is at peace, resting and content at sipping the invertebrate that comes his way. His location is in a undercut bank with overhanging rhododendron within two feet of the water surface. As you get over the shakes, you plan for minutes (feels like hours) on how to get that sidearm/roll/whatchamacallit humphreyesque cast ahead of the fish and under the rhodo into that perfect drift. After you stealthily move into optimum position you gingerly cast with confidence and unleash your favorite fly. As it is magically approaching that perfect spot, a previously unnoticed dead rhodo twig rears its ugly, graying stub and snatches your fly within inches of miraculous touchdown. As you are gently tugging on your line in the impractical hope that it may softly dislodge, the trees sway (laugh) in the wind and the brown rockets upstream in a big swoosh chucklin’ all the way. The tree gods are smiling, for they are appeased. –Walt — The Blue Ridge Book Gallery | We are located 8 miles south of Boone on Rt. 1 Box 975-23            | Hiway 105 in Foscoe in the heart of the Banner Elk, NC 28604        | beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains. Please (704) 963-5001              | visit us when you’re in the area.                             |  Thanks….Marie & Walter Winter http://www.mercury.net/~wgwinter/         also on Interloc…

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fish » Ausable River questions

Ausable River questions

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I have time available for a one day & camping overnight stay in the Lake Placid area of up state New York. I intend to fly fish the whole day and camp that night.  Can anyone help we with the following: 1 – Where to fish on the Ausable since it sounds like that is the place of choice.  If not, other locations to fish but they must be relatively close to Lake Placid.   2.  Where to get and how much a one day license will cost. 3.  Where I may be able to find a primative campsite location – preferably near where I would be fishing.. Thank you in advance – I’ll let you know how I did! — David A. Laatz Information Systems Counsulting Group, Inc. 704 S. Wenonah ave. Oak Park, Il 60304-1034 Phone – 708.445.0396

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I have time available for a one day & camping overnight stay in the Lake Placid area of up state New York. I intend to fly fish the whole day and camp that night.  Can anyone help we with the following: 1 – Where to fish on the Ausable since it sounds like that is the place of choice.  If not, other locations to fish but they must be relatively close to Lake Placid.   3.  Where I may be able to find a primative campsite location – preferably

Head for Wilmington (actually on the river, 10 or 12 miles from Lake Placid.)  The Wilmington Notch state campsite may still be open (but there is frost at night by now) — "primitive" meaning cold water.  Camping is allowed only at organized and plumbed campsites.  Information can be got at Fran Betters fly shop on Hwy. 86 at the west end of Wilmington or Jones’ Outfitters on Main St., Lake Placid. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Surface fishing in sierras

Surface fishing in sierras

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I mostly soak power bait in the High Sierras, but was always inquisitive about surface fishing. We stay at Silver Lake Resorts about 40 yards from Silver Lake near the boat launch area. (June Loop)  From our cabin you can see the lake and the trout are jumping like crazy first thing in the morning. Obviously they are surface feeding. I was thinking of using a clear plastic bubble with a little bit of water (for casting distance) with a 6 to 8 foot leader and some kind of fly or other bug..  Or 1/8 oz. Kastmaster with spots or Gold Panther Martin.  Have always excelled in soaking bait, but never really got into lures or surface fishing.  Any help would be really appreciated a.s.a.p. as we are leaving the 12th of September. Thx Garry     Good fishin’

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I mostly soak power bait in the High Sierras, but was always inquisitive about surface fishing. We stay at Silver Lake Resorts about 40 yards from Silver Lake near the boat launch area. (June Loop)  From our cabin you can see the lake and the trout are jumping like crazy first thing in the morning. Obviously they are surface feeding. I was thinking of using a clear plastic bubble with a little bit of water (for casting distance) with a 6 to 8 foot leader and some kind of fly or other bug..  Or 1/8 oz. Kastmaster with spots or Gold Panther Martin.  Have always excelled in soaking bait, but never really got into lures or surface fishing.  Any help would be really appreciated a.s.a.p. as we are leaving the 12th of September. Thx Garry     Good fishin’

A lure that I’ve had excellent results with is the Panther Martin in all silver.  Silver body, silver blade.  It works great.  Use the smaller sizes.   Good luck.   =)

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A lure that I’ve had excellent results with is the Panther Martin in all silver.  Silver body, silver blade.  It works great.  Use the smaller sizes.   Good luck.   =)

I havent had much luck with silver but gold blade w/gold or black bodys definately catch sierra planter trout. Dunno about surface fishing, I leave that for the fly guys. But I will occasionally mess with the bubble float fly rig with some luck. I wonder if trout will take topwater plugs? stev — stev_ix_netcom_com is a fake. Sorry, Im tired of all the crap I get in the mail.    

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Deschutes Flow?

Deschutes Flow?

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Hi Dave, Hear is another stream flow site, it covers the whole US: http://h2o.usgs.gov/swr/ Once you get to that page, then you select a state and from there…? Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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: Anyone heard how the Deschutes is doing now?  I know a month ago the : rains had the flow way up.  Has it calmed down?  Anyone catching fish : there? : Regards, :       Bill

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Anyone heard how the Deschutes is doing now?  I know a month ago the rains had the flow way up.  Has it calmed down?  Anyone catching fish there? Regards,    Bill

Hi Bill, Just out last Sunday on the Deschutes. It has calmed down alot since I first went out last month. I got a 17-inch native redside on a stonefly nymph. Alot of the bank vegitation has been either washed away or knocked down. I would say about 60% of it is gone. But I have bee fishing it three times in the last month and have had great succes on nymphs. I have seen very little hatch activity. The river flow now is about 5,000 cfs which is usually the max that you want to be fishing. Ideal is 3,000-4,000 cfs. You can call the PGE fish line at 503-464-7474 which will give you flow info on the Deschutes, Sandy, and Clackamas rivers. Right now the story on the D is nymphs and riffles. Good Luck Dan Root Portland, Oregon

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Anyone heard how the Deschutes is doing now?  I know a month ago the rains had the flow way up.  Has it calmed down?  Anyone catching fish there?

Just talked to Cy Happy at Ray’s River Dories who floated the river on the 13th and 14th from Warm Springs to Maupin.  Flows were 5700cfs, the visibility was good at about 3 feet.  No visible hatches but Cy reported good fishing with stonefly nymphs. He mentioned that the fish were active and strong and showed few apparent effects from the strong stream flows earlier. He also cautioned boatmen that the river is different from before.  For example, there is a new large boulder in Whitehorse that has already claimed at least one boat

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Anyone heard how the Deschutes is doing now?  I know a month ago the rains had the flow way up.  Has it calmed down?  Anyone catching fish there? Regards,         Bill

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Anyone heard how the Deschutes is doing now?  I know a month ago the rains had the flow way up.  Has it calmed down?  Anyone catching fish there? Regards,        Bill

Check out this USGS website–gives you streamflow stats every half-hour, fresh from space.   http://wwworegon.wr.usgs.gov/rt dir/realtime/data/man.14103000.html (Work back from here for stats on other rivers.)

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Seal-Ex Dubbing

Seal-Ex Dubbing

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Hi Seal-EX is distributed by Rocky Mountain Dubbing in Lander, WY. They don’t sell directly to the public but could probably tell you a store they serve near you. You can reach them at 800-866-4094. Good Luck Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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There is a new product available from Partridge in the SLF range that I personally find a lot easier to dub, is much more like seal and comes in a lovely array of colors. It was developed by Davy Wotton and Poul Jorgensen (original developer of Seal-Ex) and is available at http://www.flyfield.com

It’s neat stuff, but sparkles a lot more than natural seal does.  Fishes great though.                                                              Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Schools Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Does anyone know a supplier of Poul Jorgansen’s Seal-Ex dubbing? If you havn’t used it, it shines like a mother, and is great for caddis pupa. Thanx, Adam

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