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A few months back I shared the news about having found another job, after losing one just a few months prior. Things are going pretty well as far as the actual work part goes, not too difficult from a physical standpoint and enough weekends to save my ass before it falls off. The really good news is that I got a fabulous 6 month evaluation (public employment..) and I am now a permanent staff member. In the summer of ‘98 when I fell apart, it never occurred to me that I might be where I am now. After all by the summer of ‘99 , I was barely walking and most days were about 2 hours long. Things just didn’t look all that promising, if you know what I mean. With a lot of adaptation, some pharmaceutical intervention and a little   luck, I was able to crawl through the process of re-training, and then actually staying together long enough to find a job in a crappy job market. Dang. My ms has basically simmered and not boiled over for some time now. I am convinced that copaxone has made a big difference for me, as well as a lot of other stuff. A good marriage, I can still can ride a motorcycle (in fact just got a new one see http://colevalley.net/photos/bikes/03yam/yam.02.jpg), I still can fly-fish, and even go for walks in the park. Not that I haven’t had  few days here and there where I felt like I had been dunked a vat of novacaine and beaten with a dead salmon, but overall I just have to say that I will probably look back on this time of my life as the good old days. Of course things won’t always be this rosy but for now , I will take it. — Jim S

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In <news:wQvTd.599$C47.305@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, jim s said: > Not that I haven’t had  few days here and there where I felt like I > had been dunked a vat of novacaine and beaten with a dead salmon,

Dude… some people would pay good money for treatment like that.  :-)

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Michael wrote: > In <news:wQvTd.599$C47.305@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, > jim s said: >>Not that I haven’t had  few days here and there where I felt like I >>had been dunked a vat of novacaine and beaten with a dead salmon, > Dude… some people would pay good money for treatment like that.  :-)

Don’t most of them live with their elderly mothers, on a lonely highway somewhere south of Austin, Nevada? — Jim Stinnett R1100Rs VTR1000 YZF R1 http://moto-rama,com

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In <news:10wTd.602$C47.216@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, jim s said: > Michael wrote: >> In <news:wQvTd.599$C47.305@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, >> jim s said: >>> Not that I haven’t had  few days here and there where I felt like I >>> had been dunked a vat of novacaine and beaten with a dead salmon, >> Dude… some people would pay good money for treatment like that. > Don’t most of them live with their elderly mothers, on a lonely > highway somewhere south of Austin, Nevada?

They only call those old ladies "mom" for the benefit of police and social workers.

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We are all very happy for you and hope things continue to go well It sounds like good things are happening — may they continue Do not pass any around, but to cover all bases I have included — some cyber smoked steelhead — some cyber salmon jerky — five cyber pounds of dark chocolate because everyone on this newsgroup knows that dark chocolate is healthy for you You can be sure that we all recognize and appreciate where you are at now from where you used to be and everything that goes with it Congratulations — thanks for keeping us informed — may things continue to go well for you we all are all sharing in your good fortune — Larry Rather than building character, adversity tends to reveal it written using voice recognition software "jim s" <elkab…@colevalley.net> wrote > Of course things won’t always be this rosy but for now , I will take it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Jim S

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"jim s" <elkab…@colevalley.net> wrote  I can still can ride a motorcycle > (in fact just got a new one see > http://colevalley.net/photos/bikes/03yam/yam.02.jpg), > Jim S

Jim, youre in far to poor a condition to ride a motorcycle like that, I think you need to hand that over to someone like me who can take care of it for you.  ;^) Thats a sweet looking ride my man.  Nice.  Very nice.  I must have dropped my Sporty 50 times before I finally bought crash-bars for it, and, of course, havent really droped it once since.  Aint that how life goes though? Rob

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hi jim, may the dead-salmon-and-novocaine days be few, and the tires-hitting-the-road days many! continued good fortune, rose

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"Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com> wrote in > Thats a sweet looking ride my man.  Nice.  Very nice.  I must have dropped > my Sporty 50 times before I finally bought crash-bars for it, and, of > course, havent really droped it once since.  Aint that how life goes

though? Yeah…what’s up with that? Maybe it’s a karmic insurance policy! vroom. Jim S

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"white.lynx" <white.l…@shaw.ca> wrote in message > Do not pass any around,

but to cover all bases I have included > — some cyber smoked steelhead > — some cyber salmon jerky > — five cyber pounds of dark chocolate because everyone on this newsgroup > knows that dark chocolate is healthy for you > You can be sure that we all recognize and appreciate where you are at now > from where you used to be and everything that goes with it

I love chocolate, enough that it rivals some of the other rather important things, like breathing…:) Jim

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I contracted food posioning which turned into Guillian Barre Syndrome which left me totally parilized. I have been in recovery for three years and have regained use of my upper body and my lower body is starting to move.

You might find this useful; http://www.fishing-hunting.com/fishingnews/terrylawton/article3.htm TL MC

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Scott, that’s pretty much the way it works here except this may vary according to the library’s program… The feature here is called ‘ILL’ (Inter Library Loan). My Library’s website does not search the interlibrary loan database. That search (for a particular book) has to be done by the librarian.. There is a cost….50 cents.,…..to read any book out there and man there is a lot! We’re talking collectors items…oops. john

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I contracted food posioning which turned into Guillian Barre Syndrome  which left me totally parilized. I have been in recovery for three years and have regained use of my upper body and my lower body is starting to move.Before my illness I lived to fish and flyfished anytime I could.My local Libary carries very few fly fishing titles and most are old. My question is are there any online libaries or sources that loan books? I was buying some used but I have a wife and three kids so have to watch the budget.Are there any good web sights that have alot of info on fly tieing and fishing. Thank you. KCL ”I’m Ready , Im Ready”   ~Spongebob Squarepants~ You didn’t mention your location (big city, small town).  Most libraries I know of have extensive interlibrary loan programs these days, and the service has been way enhanced in recent years by the internet. Find the books you want, via fishing mags, fishing sites, or even Amazon’s search engine (which I go to before trying my university library search if I need an ISBN number), then go to your libraries web site and request the book.  You’ll get an email when it gets in, and your wife or you can pick it up. If you have trouble, call the reference desk at your library and see if they can help.  Librarians can be very creative to meet special needs. Also, call your state conservation office to find out if there are any special opportunities for handicapped fisherman.  Whether you’re ready for it today or need to wait a little more into your recovery, eventually you’ll want to get out and there are ways to facilitate that. Good Luck, Scott

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I contracted food posioning which turned into Guillian Barre Syndrome  which left me totally parilized. I have been in recovery for three years and have regained use of my upper body and my lower body is starting to move.Before my illness I lived to fish and flyfished anytime I could.My local Libary carries very few fly fishing titles and most are old. My question is are there any online libaries or sources that loan books? I was buying some used but I have a wife and three kids so have to watch the budget.Are there any good web sights that have alot of info on fly tieing and fishing. Thank you. KCL ”I’m Ready , Im Ready”   ~Spongebob Squarepants~

You didn’t mention your location (big city, small town).  Most libraries I know of have extensive interlibrary loan programs these days, and the service has been way enhanced in recent years by the internet. Find the books you want, via fishing mags, fishing sites, or even Amazon’s search engine (which I go to before trying my university library search if I need an ISBN number), then go to your libraries web site and request the book.  You’ll get an email when it gets in, and your wife or you can pick it up. If you have trouble, call the reference desk at your library and see if they can help.  Librarians can be very creative to meet special needs. Also, call your state conservation office to find out if there are any special opportunities for handicapped fisherman.  Whether you’re ready for it today or need to wait a little more into your recovery, eventually you’ll want to get out and there are ways to facilitate that. Good Luck, Scott

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 I contracted food posioning which turned into Guillian Barre Syndrome which left me totally parilized. I have been in recovery for three years and have regained use of my upper body and my lower body is starting to move.Before my illness I lived to fish and flyfished anytime I could.My local Libary carries very few fly fishing titles and most are old. My question is are there any online libaries or sources that loan books? I was buying some used but I have a wife and three kids so have to watch the budget.Are there any good web sights that have alot of info on fly tieing and fishing. Thank you. KCL ”I’m Ready , Im Ready”   ~Spongebob Squarepants~

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I got a postcard from them saying the newsletter was stopped, but they were going to do articles on the website.  If the website is down the SAA is pretty much gone.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let’s be truthful about the SAA.  I was a member if you could call it that.  I donated twenty dollars to get mailings.  There was no formal membership, just a mailing list.  If someone wanted to write some articles and someone wanted to print it it happened.  It was a volunteer organization not much different than any  of the mail lists we are on except that it took donations and used to cover mailing costs.  that is the only difference.  It had some mailings. Remember Paul said he was too tired to start a new EAA all over again. So since there was not much there to begin with except the spirit of those interested.  If the spirit still exists then SAA still exists.  No need to complicate or overstate anything.  Except for the fact that the website is down nothing new or different is happening. The website has been down for a long while and it was not much substance anyway.  Just a few pages by volunteer web developer. So lets be realistic guys and dont blow this out of proportion. Before you buy.

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I got a postcard from them saying the newsletter was stopped, but they were going to do articles on the website.  If the website is down the SAA is pretty much gone.

The fancy magazine was stopped.  One member supported it.  However, the newsletter was NOT stopped.  I got an issue not long ago.  I expect to see Paul at Blakesburg the end of the month.  I will ask him how it is going.  Actually there were some pretty active volunteers who were out signing folks up.   I signed up early on at Blakesburg, leaning on the fence in front of the Groundloop Lounge talking to Paul one year.  That is how I got the number 88! — HighFlyer Highflight Aviation Services

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Let’s be truthful about the SAA.  I was a member if you could call it that.  I donated twenty dollars to get mailings.  There was no formal membership, just a mailing list.  If someone wanted to write some articles and someone wanted to print it it happened.  It was a volunteer organization not much different than any  of the mail lists we are on except that it took donations and used to cover mailing costs.  that is the only difference.  It had some mailings. Remember Paul said he was too tired to start a new EAA all over again. So since there was not much there to begin with except the spirit of those interested.  If the spirit still exists then SAA still exists.  No need to complicate or overstate anything.  Except for the fact that the website is down nothing new or different is happening. The website has been down for a long while and it was not much substance anyway.  Just a few pages by volunteer web developer. So lets be realistic guys and dont blow this out of proportion. Before you buy.

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I asked HQ about SAA and received this in return: Richard: The Sport Aviation Association has dissolved.  If you would like more information on EAA it can be found at www.eaa.org. Thank you for your interest,    xxxxxxxxxx Membership Services — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

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Eh? I just got my June issue of TO FLY from SAA and there was no mention of disolving.  I’ll keep following it as there should be a gathering of SAA members at the AAA fly-in in September in Ottumwa, Iowa. –Scott– 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked HQ about SAA and received this in return: Richard: The Sport Aviation Association has dissolved.  If you would like more information on EAA it can be found at www.eaa.org. Thank you for your interest,    xxxxxxxxxx Membership Services — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

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That was a direct copy of the note HQ sent to me…. So what’s the story from Paul P? Can we still join? — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

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   How do we join?    GyroMike    http://www.geocities.com/gyromike Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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So what is the URL of SAA?? Seems that the people that "Belong" would be willing to tell in the post, as that was what the question was, not if you recieved your subscription. We KNOW EAA is not going to tell us the URL. As EAA has a publication called Sport Aviation it seems the names are a little to close for comfort. I would think EAA would squelch the name and considering who is supposed to be running it I find it unlikely he would pick a name that close.  Anyone can use any name they want for  .com and who is to know better. Could someone be fishing for input from EAA and ex EAA members on what they would like to see changed in anticipation of a possible "New" EAA division?? John "Flying …. Just about the most fun you can have and still keep your clothes on"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Eh? I just got my June issue of TO FLY from SAA and there was no mention of disolving.  I’ll keep following it as there should be a gathering of SAA members at the AAA fly-in in September in Ottumwa, Iowa. –Scott– 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! I asked HQ about SAA and received this in return: Richard: The Sport Aviation Association has dissolved.  If you would like more information on EAA it can be found at www.eaa.org. Thank you for your interest,    xxxxxxxxxx Membership Services — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01 —

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So, while I’m typing search engine is working. http://www.sportaviation.org/ Unfortunately the web site is closed.. John "Flying …. Just about the most fun you can have and still keep your clothes on"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what is the URL of SAA?? Seems that the people that "Belong" would be willing to tell in the post, as that was what the question was, not if you recieved your subscription. We KNOW EAA is not going to tell us the URL. As EAA has a publication called Sport Aviation it seems the names are a little to close for comfort. I would think EAA would squelch the name and considering who is supposed to be running it I find it unlikely he would pick a name that close.  Anyone can use any name they want for  .com and who is to know better. Could someone be fishing for input from EAA and ex EAA members on what they would like to see changed in anticipation of a possible "New" EAA division?? John "Flying …. Just about the most fun you can have and still keep your clothes on" Eh? I just got my June issue of TO FLY from SAA and there was no mention of disolving.  I’ll keep following it as there should be a gathering of SAA members at the AAA fly-in in September in Ottumwa, Iowa. –Scott– 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! I asked HQ about SAA and received this in return: Richard: The Sport Aviation Association has dissolved.  If you would like more information on EAA it can be found at www.eaa.org. Thank you for your interest,    xxxxxxxxxx Membership Services — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01 —

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked HQ about SAA and received this in return: Richard: The Sport Aviation Association has dissolved.  If you would like more information on EAA it can be found at www.eaa.org. Thank you for your interest,    xxxxxxxxxx Membership Services — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

The SAA meeting at OSH was on July 31 and was attended by 200 people, according to an email I got from the Colonel on Aug 3. No mention of dissolution in his message. Before you buy.

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I’m starting to think there are some internal politics involved here… — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

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I’m starting to think there are some internal politics involved here… — Richard Lamb — http://www.flash.net/~lamb01

Well, the web site did mention a need for new material. Probably have as much trouble soliciting articles as I have. — Bruce A. Frank, Editor               "Ford 3.8/4.2L Engine and V-6 STOL BAFRANK(at)worldnet.att.net              Homebuilt Aircraft Newsletter"                                  | Publishing interesting material|                                  | on all aspects of alternative  |                                  | engines and homebuilt aircraft.|                (-o-)/        AIRCRAFT PROJECTS CO.                 ___/           Manufacturing parts & pieces                 /             for homebuilt aircraft,                0     0          TIG welding While trying to find the time to finish mine.

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So Charlie, I’d be making that H&H, you need the length for mending and for keeping the fly out of the crap behind you, on the backcast.

Thanks, I’ll get the parts ordered. — Charlie…

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Charlie Choc: I’d need a 6wt (looking for an excuse to build a rod, actually<g). —

Build.  Build.  Build.  Tell the OWMBO that I said so. Dave Dave LaCourse

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Uh, I hit send before I was finished.  More to follow. All of the fish I caught were on a 9 foot four weight with WF4F line.  A  6 weight would be ideal for lobbing streamers (help me here, Peter C.), but a 5 should work just as well.  And bring a four for nymphing and dry fly work.  Salmon Fly was using his own boo rod — prettiest damn thing you ever saw, and he was giving it a work-out.  I believe it was a 4 weight Dave LaCourse

Dave n’ Charlie Just fired up the laptop in North Bay before I start with their NT conversion (3 people branch – won’t take long) and I caught your plea for help.  <g I’m taking a 9 1/2′ 6 wt. for slinging big streamers into second current, off that big rock at the end of the island.  I’ll also be bringing a short 6 wt. and a 9′ 4 wt. and perhaps one other 4 wt. So Charlie, I’d be making that H&H, you need the length for mending and for keeping the fly out of the crap behind you, on the backcast. Peter

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[snip report] Nice report Dave. Makes me think I need to start building a rod to use there in September. I’m thinking about a 9 1/2′ 6wt from an H&H blank. Think that’ll be useful for streamer fishing? (I’ll be bringing along 3, 4 and 5wt rods as well). Will that be enough firepower or will I need something heavier? — Charlie…

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Nice report Dave. Makes me think I need to start building a rod to use there in September. I’m thinking about a 9 1/2′ 6wt from an H&H blank. Think that’ll be useful for streamer fishing? (I’ll be bringing along 3, 4 and 5wt rods as well). Will that be enough firepower or will I need something heavier? — Charlie…

Uh, I hit send before I was finished.  More to follow. All of the fish I caught were on a 9 foot four weight with WF4F line.  A  6 weight would be ideal for lobbing streamers (help me here, Peter C.), but a 5 should work just as well.  And bring a four for nymphing and dry fly work.  Salmon Fly was using his own boo rod — prettiest damn thing you ever saw, and he was giving it a work-out.  I believe it was a 4 weight Dave LaCourse

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All of the fish I caught were on a 9 foot four weight with WF4F line.  A  6 weight would be ideal for lobbing streamers (help me here, Peter C.), but a 5 should work just as well.  And bring a four for nymphing and dry fly work.  

OK, like I said I’ll have 3, 4 and 5wt rods along, just wondered if I’d need a 6wt (looking for an excuse to build a rod, actually<g). — Charlie…

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Jo, Henry and I arrived at Lakewood just in time for lunch on Monday.  I was a bit alarmed to hear that there were 15 people at the "island", but even more alarmed when told there were 35 there the day before!!!!!  I opted for the dam. Big mistake.  The dam should be easy to fish at 1300 cfs, but the new dam keeper just can’t get it right.  I had the place all to myself, but fishing was very difficult.  No rises.  Water temp at 51.  No hatches.  So, nymphs (or if Peter Charles streamers) were the order of the day.  I went through every nymph pattern I had and never got a strike.  Nothing!  I tied on a Prince as a dropper from a GRW and finally started to catch fish.  No brookies — only salmon 15 – 17 inches — and I ended the day with 3 fish. Tuesday found me at the "island" bright and early.  Two locals in a canoe lobbing big streamers in the 1st and 2nd currents.  I walked up to the wing dam pool and looked around for a few minutes.  No surface activity, but there were a few Henricksons coming off, but no fish rising to them.  I prefer fishing dries on this river, so I tied on a #16 Adams parachute.  Second cast into the riffles coming out of the wing dam and WHAM, a big brookie hit it.  I managed to land the 18 inch fish without a net, something I am not very good at. Beautiful color and it fought like hell.   I figured this was my day.  Wrong!  I fished for 4 more hours and never caught a thing.  But I was not alone.  I returned after lunch and the six or so people that were there had left, probably in disgust. I continued fishing the wing dam pool and managed another brookie about 15 inches, and a couple of salmon about 12 inches, all on prince nymphs. Wednesday, back to the "island" bright and early.  No one there.  I fished the wing dam pool again with limited results.  One of the guests at Lakewood walked his canoe up the rapids of the 2nd current and anchored in the fast water at the head of the pool.  In less that 10 minutes, he was into a helluva big fish.  When it broke off, he turned to me and put his hands about two feet apart.  "Honest", he said.  <g  Ten minutes later he was into another big one and managed to net all 23 inche of it.  It was the biggest brookie I had seen come out of those waters – not so much in length, but in girth too — it measured 16 inches in front of the dorsal.  I have forgotten the formula, but looking at that fish it must have weighed in at 6 pounds.  The irony of it all — that was his first and *only* fish of the day.    I landed (with help from my net!) a 20 inch brookie taken on a BWO emerger. The big brookies were not at the wingdam riffles like they normally are, but farther out in the pool.  They were porpoising, eating at what seemed a leisurely pace.  Every once in awhile, one would come straight up like he was trying to stand on his tail.  But there was very little splashing or noise — you wouldn’t know they were feeding unless you saw them.  And no one saw them except me.  Well, at least for awhile, anyway.  I threw every imaginable caddis emerger I could find in my fly box and they ignored everying.  I finally saw a flying insect and thought it to bea BWO.  Hmmmm. Not caddis.  Mayflies.  I tied on a BWO emerger that I bought several years ago on the advice of some "knowing" friend.  I bought a dozen and never used them — I *think* they are called RS2 or something like that.  Not being much of a mayfly fisher, I had completely forgotten them until now.  Well, I cast the damn thing out there and couldn’t see it in the moving water.  There was a rise where my fly *should* have been, but when  I set the hook, I had nothing.  So, I tied on a #14 Goddard Caddis and used the emerger as a dropper.  Second cast and the Goddard disappeared three seconds after it hit the water.  I set the hook Dave LaCourse

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   Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?    I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

And for those who can’t fish tomorrow, Sunday the 18th will automatically be deleted and the 17th will carry over for another 24 hours. Big Al

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   Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?    I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

Lucky b—-r, I’ll  be stuck battling a fibreglas hatch on the Credit. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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    Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?     I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

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Just finished watching a piece on Fashion TV, CITY-TV, Toronto where they interviewed Karen Graham.  The former Vogue model was sought out by Estee Lauder, lured away from her fly fishing school and brought in to promote stuff for older women.  She’s going to have a TV ad running soon as well. And boy,  she can double-haul me any day.  ( No honey, I’m not serious. . . . stop looking over my shoulder . . . yes I love that rod you bought me, . . .  stop whacking me with it. . . .) Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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I just saw a piece about Karen Graham on Oprah recently… very interesting.  Besides being very beautiful, she was charming and down to earth as well.  And most importantly, she casts beautifully. ;^) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just finished watching a piece on Fashion TV, CITY-TV, Toronto where they interviewed Karen Graham.  The former Vogue model was sought out by Estee Lauder, lured away from her fly fishing school and brought in to promote stuff for older women.  She’s going to have a TV ad running soon as well. And boy,  she can double-haul me any day.  ( No honey, I’m not serious. . . . stop looking over my shoulder . . . yes I love that rod you bought me, . . .  stop whacking me with it. . . .) Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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Does anyone have a web address for fly fishing screen savers or wallpaper?

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Try http://www.webshots.com Does anyone have a web address for fly fishing screen savers or wallpaper?

– Steve Vaughn Kodak Park Health, Safety & Environmental Services Eastman Kodak Company – http://www.kodak.com Phone: (716)722-4744 Fax:   (716)722-3695

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www.webshots.com Great site…and worth purchasing as you can set up your own screensavers from scanned photos…or copied photos etc. Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have a web address for fly fishing screen savers or wallpaper?

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While this may not be flyfising, but there is a free fish screensaver at www.download.com called mopyfish you can get. Here is  the brief descrition:                  The HP MOPy Fish (Piscenus                  Mopei Floataneus) lives on your                  desktop in its own aquarium, soothing                  your mind with its calming nature. Its                  movements are based on actual fish                  for realism. The HP MOPy Fish will                  develop its own unique personality,                  depending on how you treat it: It will                  perish if neglected and prosper with                  proper care.                  Minimum requirements:                  Windows 95/NT I have not tried this screensaver myself… JT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have a web address for fly fishing screen savers or wallpaper?

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As for me, a month ago I was fishing, with a Lazer line, that turned out to be a piece of junk.  The store that sold it to me (Kingsway Sports in Guelph) special ordered it in for me so I can’t ask them to take it back. It would be a good line, (it’s a WF5F) if it FLOATED!.  Unfortunately, it gives a great imitation of a sink tip.  I would really appreciate the name of the contact person at Courtland so that I can tell him how much I REALLY like their crappy products.   James P. Ward Twin Willow Farm Paisley, Ont.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just bought a new 5 wt. DT floating Lazerline (lime), so I’m kind of interested in this thread. I’m heading over to Europe and don’t want my line to let me down. What kind of line dressing have you guys been using or not using on your lines? The little pad that Cortland ships with the line? Something else? What type of soap are you using if you clean it with soap. I wonder if some it’s some brands of line dressing or bug repellants that you’re using thats doing the line in? Does everyone, that has had problems, have some other products in common? Ones that could eat a line! Maybe we should list the stuff that comes in contact with our lines? And how offen you clean it. Might get to the bottom of this yet. So to get started, I’m using the Cortland pads and have Cortland "XL" line dressing. Use Repel 100 bug spray. A couple of different brands fly floatant also. Don Burns

I use the Cortland pads with "Flot-Cote" and I never use bug spray on my hands. I also use a lot of Cortland products and I do not wish to bash this company at all. Sometimes things just don’t work out in the manufacturing process. After all, I am trying like hell to give those fish a real fighting chance (actually, they are doing better than expected) and Cortland has been there with me every cast along the way. Thank you all for responding. If they are willing, I certainly will have Cortland replace my line. Johnny

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Welcome to the Lazerline cracked line club.  I sent back 3 lines to cortland for replacement last season.  Just return the line to cortland adn they will replace it with another. Cheers gp : Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing : outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming : off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be : about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the : line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone : else had this experience with this or any other line? — gp

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line? I can’t offer any help I’m afraid Johnny, but wanted to relate my experience to the audience : I bought a 5-wt Cortland 444 about 5 years ago and it is still going strong despite being used most weekends.  Showing a little memory now, especially at the start of the day, but an amazing line. I was chatting to the store owner who sold it to me all that time ago and he openly admitted that the new Lazer lines are noticeably less resilient than 444s. Anyone else ? Russ

Russ, last year I too bought and used a lazer line from Cortland and experienced the same problem. The coating on the line was delaminating from the core in a crazing sort of fashion. The line was a DT6F. I sent the line back to the company along with an explaination and they promptly sent me back a new line along with an explaination that went something like: "There was a bad batch of lines that caused problems like yours to other customers as well." Anyway, the new line has performed exceptionally well and the delamination problem has not resurfaced. — Lou Dutra Don’t kill your limit,…limit your kill.

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Don, This is a known problem with (some) Lazer lines.  I have spoken to a number of other flyshop owners and all have experienced the problem.  Some of these lines had problems right out of the box, others took a few weeks to show problems.  I would suggest taking your line out and practice with it for a while and then check it very carefully.  If I were you I would carry an extra (444) line on your trip. Sandy Lockleer Creekside Fly Shop, Salem, Oregon http://www.halcyon.com/flyshop/

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I have both a grey and lime green – 5 wt – and my experience is consistent with others on this thread:  the grey is cracked badly and I stopped using it after 10-15 times over a period of about a year.  The lime green is still OK, although without frequent treatments it does a great imitation of a sink tip.  Meanwhile, my 444SL’s ( two) have been great in all respects.  I should note that I bought both Lazers in 1994, so there may have been changes since then.  Nevertheless, I’ll stick with the 444.                                             Mark Faulkner

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Cortland seems to be having a variety of QC problems. I spoke to a flyfishing professional/instructor a few weeks ago that was an avid Cortland 444SL user until last year. He also observed the Lazer line problem with chunks falling off the line with relatively little usage. He mentioned something about the plastisizer being the issue in the formulation of the coating. While WD40 and some other compunds can damage coatings it appears this problem exists right out of the box. He also had problems with 444SLs which he once swore by. The most specific example: he had eight brand new SLs down in the Bahamas for a bonefish school that he ran. When he had problems casting one they switched lines and still had problems. To make a long story short, they ran all eight lines between two palm trees and took a micrometer to them. The results: no two lines had exactly the same taper! Not small differences either, some diamater changes took place up to six feet away from where they should have. His advice: stay away from all Cortland lines for now (or maybe forever) and keep using your pre-1994 SLs. He says Cortland has not been the same since Chandler left. Today he is using Mastery and Ultras if anyone cares. Tom Don, This is a known problem with (some) Lazer lines.  I have spoken to a number of other flyshop owners and all have experienced the problem.  Some of these lines had problems right out of the box, others took a few weeks to show problems.  I would suggest taking your line out and practice with it for a while and then check it very carefully.  If I were you I would carry an extra (444) line on your trip. Sandy Lockleer Creekside Fly Shop, Salem, Oregon http://www.halcyon.com/flyshop/

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The persons to contact at Cortland are Mr. Brian Ward or Tom McCullough at 1-800-368-7910. Hope this helps. Jack.

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As for me, a month ago I was fishing, with a Lazer line, that turned out to be a piece of junk.  The store that sold it to me (Kingsway Sports in Guelph) special ordered it in for me so I can’t ask them to take it back. It would be a good line, (it’s a WF5F) if it FLOATED!.  Unfortunately, it gives a great imitation of a sink tip.  I would really appreciate the name of the contact person at Courtland so that I can tell him how much I REALLY like their crappy products. James P. Ward Twin Willow Farm Paisley, Ont.

I liked Lazer line, but it turns into a sinking tip after a few months and shows signs of becoming a county road map. These phenomena finally overcame my stubborn attachment to their performance, and I gave up on them for Cortland’s 444. Frankly, now I don’t miss the Lazer line at all. Mitch Mulhall

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I would really appreciate the name of the contact person at Courtland so that I can tell him how much I REALLY like their crappy products.

Yeah, at least you’ll end up with a new line! =^) — CU, Jay Lee (Capelle a/d IJssel, The Netherlands)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line? Hi I sure have. Return the line to Cortland and they will replace it. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog) I just bought a new 5 wt. DT floating Lazerline (lime), so I’m kind of interested in this thread. I’m heading over to Europe and don’t want my line to let me down. What kind of line dressing have you guys been using or not using on your lines? The little pad that Cortland ships with the line? Something else? What type of soap are you using if you clean it with soap. I wonder if some it’s some brands of line dressing or bug repellants that you’re using thats doing the line in? Does everyone, that has had problems, have some other products in common? Ones that could eat a line! Maybe we should list the stuff that comes in contact with our lines? And how offen you clean it. Might get to the bottom of this yet. So to get started, I’m using the Cortland pads and have Cortland "XL" line dressing. Use Repel 100 bug spray. A couple of different brands fly floatant also. Don Burns

I won’t be to worried about your europe trip. I have fished a laserline WF3F and WF5F for more than 6 month and haven’t had a proble= m but I know that the first generation laserline had this problem. If your dealer sold you a new one there is most likely no problem=

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My advice, guys. Save your money and buy a Cortland 333HT. You’ll hardly notice the difference and you’ll have an extra $30 in your wallet.

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Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

Hi I sure have. Return the line to Cortland and they will replace it. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line? Hi I sure have. Return the line to Cortland and they will replace it. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

I just bought a new 5 wt. DT floating Lazerline (lime), so I’m kind of interested in this thread. I’m heading over to Europe and don’t want my line to let me down. What kind of line dressing have you guys been using or not using on your lines? The little pad that Cortland ships with the line? Something else? What type of soap are you using if you clean it with soap. I wonder if some it’s some brands of line dressing or bug repellants that you’re using thats doing the line in? Does everyone, that has had problems, have some other products in common? Ones that could eat a line! Maybe we should list the stuff that comes in contact with our lines? And how offen you clean it. Might get to the bottom of this yet. So to get started, I’m using the Cortland pads and have Cortland "XL" line dressing. Use Repel 100 bug spray. A couple of different brands fly floatant also. Don Burns

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(Robert Hergan) writes: My advice, guys. Save your money and buy a Cortland 333HT. You’ll hardly notice the difference and you’ll have an extra $30 in your wallet.

I heartily agree. I have used five or six over the years and have found them to be very durable and a great value. — Roger

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Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

This seems to be a chronic problem with LazerLine. I have a friend who has encountered this problem with the ’slate’ colored LazerLines. In each case, he was able to return it for replacement. I have been using the ‘lime’ colored line for several years and have not had a problem. — Norm… San Jose, CA.

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Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

Where were you about a month ago?  I posted my problems with Cortland’s Lazer Line and had a lot of dissatisfied responses.  I’ve had 5 lines in 4 years.  I keep sending them back and they keep sending me new ones.  My problems with lines are always the same.  Thet crack to the point of seperating, they are impossible to keep clean and they get tiny fissures throughout.   The consensus feeling is that the line can’t handle heavy fish.  One guy posted that he bought a line right before a trip to Alaska(?) and did not get in 4 hours of fishing (he caught several heavy fish) before the line was useless.   Take the line back to where you bought it and tell the salesperson that you want this returned and to give you a new one.  If they won’t do this, e-mail me back and I will give you a contact man at Cortland to write to. Good luck. — sjf muddler Reedsville PA "just call me mud…."

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Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

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Some of the early Lazers had this problem. I also had a problem with this – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

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Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone else had this experience with this or any other line?

I can’t offer any help I’m afraid Johnny, but wanted to relate my experience to the audience : I bought a 5-wt Cortland 444 about 5 years ago and it is still going strong despite being used most weekends.  Showing a little memory now, especially at the start of the day, but an amazing line. I was chatting to the store owner who sold it to me all that time ago and he openly admitted that the new Lazer lines are noticeably less resilient than 444s. Anyone else ?  Russ

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 Last year I bought a 4wt WF floating Cortland Lazerline. After a fishing  outing this last weekend I noticed that pieces of the coating were coming  off. I have used it maybe on a half dozen trips. The "flaking" seems to be  about the 30′ mark on the line. My guides are fine. I didn’t mistreat the  line by wrestling in some hungry tree or anything like that. Has anyone  else had this experience with this or any other line?

Yes, Cortland did have a problem with a batch of lazerlines – Take your line back to the dealer or send it directly to cortland.  Cortland has been very responsive to resolving this problem. Sandy Lockleer http://www.halcyon.com/flyshop/ Creekside Fly shop Salem, Oregon

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I have a Tempo and camp/fish every other weekend. I love it!  It is a great car but space is somewhat limited.  I’m sure the car can handle the drive but you will have to pack wisely.  Space is adequate for 2 on short (1 week) journeys, but I suspect you may run out of places to store your gear if you will be out longer than that. Jim

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[ Article crossposted from rec.travel.usa-canada ] [ Author was Ray F Pero ] My wife and I will be travelling around the Yukon from late July until late August this year.  We will fly into Whitehorse, rent a car and drive around the territory.  We also hope to hook up with some local (inexpensive) outfitters for a guided wilderness experience. I need answers to three questions to help me plan our trip. 1) The best rental car deal appears to be for a Ford Tempo.  Would a Tempo be good enough for the drive up the Dempster Highway to Inuvik and back? 2) We intend to camp along the way to save some money on accomodations.   How much can I expect to pay per night at the campgrounds?  Is it necessary to reserve space ahead of time or can I just show up? 3) Many of the trips listed in the brochures I’ve received in the mail regarding wilderness adventure travel are prohibitively expensive.  Would there be any local guides who we could hire by the day for a more reasonable amount of money?  I don’t expect anyone to carry my gear or cook for me, I simply want someone who knows the local terrain and conditions and who could add an element of safety to the trip.  I’m hoping I can save money with the added benefit of tailoring the trip to meet our wishes.  How much would a local guide charge per day for such a trip?  We will bring all of our own equipment (except possibly for a canoe should we decide upon a river trip). Any help with the above questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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[ Article crossposted from rec.travel.usa-canada ] [ Author was Ray F Pero ] My wife and I will be travelling around the Yukon from late July until late August this year.  We will fly into Whitehorse, rent a car and drive around the territory.  We also hope to hook up with some local (inexpensive) outfitters for a guided wilderness experience. I need answers to three questions to help me plan our trip. 1) The best rental car deal appears to be for a Ford Tempo.  Would a Tempo be good enough for the drive up the Dempster Highway to Inuvik and back?

Yes, I think you would make it.  It is a really well kept gravel road in comparison to any gravel roads in the lower 48, and high clearance is not a requirement.  Make sure to bring at least one if not more spare tires in good shape and full of air as the gravel really eats up the tires. The only challenge on this road is the remoteness should anything go wrong. I blew one tire and it was shredded by the time I got the car stopped, the gravel is very unforgiving.  Also slow WAY down and/or stop and pull over as far as you can to the right whenever a truck is oncoming as they throw lots of gravel and don’t slow down for you.  Much better to take a gravel spray stopped than moving.  Also stop in Dawson before you start the trip and check on the current conditions at the visitors center.  They have nice videos to preview the trip and really get you excited and informed before you go.  Also plan on more days than you think for the trip. 2) We intend to camp along the way to save some money on accomodations.   How much can I expect to pay per night at the campgrounds?  Is it necessary to reserve space ahead of time or can I just show up?

No need to reserve space, there is no overcrowding, although if you are worried about getting a choice campsite then stop early in the day, like 4 or 5pm instead of 8,9, or 10pm.  Although all the campsites are great and firewood is included in your self registration fee.  Be sure to bring some sort of axe though as it is not pre-chopped. 3) Many of the trips listed in the brochures I’ve received in the mail regarding wilderness adventure travel are prohibitively expensive.  Would there be any local guides who we could hire by the day for a more reasonable amount of money?  I don’t expect anyone to carry my gear or cook for me, I simply want someone who knows the local terrain and conditions and who could add an element of safety to the trip.  I’m hoping I can save money with the added benefit of tailoring the trip to meet our wishes.  How much would a local guide charge per day for such a trip?  We will bring all of our own equipment (except possibly for a canoe should we decide upon a river trip).

Local guides are definitely available; just look for flyers in resteraunts and on posts, in sporting goods stores, asking around, etc. They are definitely the best way to go IMHO because they are usually locals who have lived there for a good long time and have a lot of character.  My personal recommendation is to plan to spend some quality time in Teslin, south of Whitehorse.  Teslin Lake is large, but provides excellent fishing opportunities, especially for Lake Trout.  There is also great fishing in the streams that feed the lake, and many challenging hiking trails.  I’m sure even canoeing would be a possibility.  We arrived in Teslin and wanted to fish for Lake Trout, found a flyer describing a guide, at the general store, went to the resteraunt and found a pay phone inside. We proceeded to make the call and it turned out the guide was in the resteraunt and answered on his mobile phone.  It was hilarious.  So we booked him for the next day and we had a blast.  I would definetly recommend him and if you would like his info I may be able to find it at home.  He also had all kinds of tips for the rest of our trip.  He informed us of where the locals tell people to fish and where the locals fish.  He also did guided hiking, rafting, etc. Well worth the $, and much cheaper than an outfitter. Any help with the above questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Have a great time; I wish I was going again. Feel free to email me with more questions. Ken Koca — Lockheed Martin Astronautics   (303) 977-5464 Mail Stop: T-3725 P.O. Box 179                   "Don’t think about Denver, CO  80201              memories, make them."

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My girlfriend has asked me to teach her how to flyfish.  I’ve been an avid flyfisherman for three years now.  I feel I’m good enough to tie knots in the air with the best of them . A few questions: 1. I don’t want to spend a lot of money for a rod/reel that she may lose interest in so I’m going to get something that I can use in the future (if necessary).  Any opinions on the prepackaged everything-you-need-to-start-NOW rod/reel/line combos?  I’ve seen some ranging from $30 to $200. Quality is an issue. 2. She asked if being left-handed would make a difference.  It had never occurred to me that I routinely cast with either hand, depending on the situation (ie, how many flies I’ve lost in the tree to my right-rear).  Retrieving is always done with rod in right/reeling with left.  Just curious if any left-handers have had any problems learning or buying equipment. 3. Women’s waders: I haven’t been able to find any in stores around here (Grand Rapids, MI).  Any experiences with mail ordering women’s waders (good or bad) would be helpful.  She will use the waders irregardless of fishing since she’s into fisheries biology.  Looking for good 4mm or 5mm neoprene. I read the thread from a few months ago about teaching the Significant Other how to flyfish. Interesting advice that will be taken to heart. Thanks in advance. Tight lines, Brian Austin

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My girlfriend has asked me to teach her how to flyfish.  I’ve been an avid flyfisherman for three years now.  I feel I’m good enough to tie knots in the air with the best of them . (snip) 2. She asked if being left-handed would make a difference.  It had never occurred to me that I routinely cast with either hand, depending on the situation (ie, how many flies I’ve lost in the tree to my right-rear).  Retrieving is always done with rod in right/reeling with left.  Just curious if any left-handers have had any problems learning or buying equipment. Tight lines, Brian Austin

In terms of _learning_ to cast, my advice would be to stand in front of your girlfriend and have her "mirror" what you’re doing to get the timing, or stand to her left so she can see what you’re doing.  Or, get a copy of Ed Jaworowski’s book on casting (the best ever, IMHO). Enjoy! Doug Stewart

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Brain. I suggest you bring her to my small ranch in Montana. Hawley Mountain Ranch max guests 24 is in the Absaroka Wilderness 25 miles north of Yellowstone Park. You can fish the Boulder River, horse back ride, hike or just read a book. This summer I caught so many fish that—ok I also hurt my right arm moving rocks–my right arm hurt so I had to learn to teach fly fishing with my left. So now when I go to the stream either arm works.  As far as teaching your girlfriend to fish , I taught my first wife to drive. Will enought said on that point. I did teach Ellen new wife of 10yr. how to fish when she was a girlfriend. First time on the stream she caught and released 6 before I got a fly on— so be careful!!!  Enjoy her and the outdoors thats what life is about.                       Your Montana Friend!!!                          Bryant Blewett BBlewett

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