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snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remember, PVC pipe left in the sun gets brittle, it might help keep them from cracking. http://hometown.aol.com/hlaviation/

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what about  filling the tubes with foam?  a quick option might be a macroflex type squirt foam that people use for insulation, or what about pool noodles?  ever taken a couple and tied them to make a floating chair? fun stuff.  anyhow, could find some pool noodles and stuff them in the pvc pipes.  whatever… sounds like a fun project. doftya – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell, I liked the original poster’s original idea – PVC pipe. I’ve seen this done, I know folks locally who made floating duck blinds like that. They used fairly large diameter pipe, and capped the ends with glued-on caps. Easy, strong, effective. Mr. Has A Horrible Headache How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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Hello.  I am told sometimes making rafts is discussed here.  If not, perhaps some of you can direct me to another newsgroup.  My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                 Many Thanks, Becky

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My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                Many Thanks, Becky

 Milk jugs and pallets.  Nothing beats free.  Really as for a raft for the pond, only your imagination is the limit since no ones life is really at stake on it. Have fun and play around. http://hometown.aol.com/hlaviation/

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Unless you can find PVC on the side of the road you will probably find it pretty expensive. You probably need 12" and the caps (expensive too). Another option would be poly drums. Styrofoam blocks are cheaper but there is some ecological concern if they are not encapsulated. If they crumble up the lake will have the pieces floating around for a while. I have seen rafts made with concrete forming (cardboard) tubes but they won’t last very long unless you saturate them with epoxy resin or something.

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Empty beer kegs provide excellent flotation. The best procedure, of course, is to buy them full and empty them during the summer-long "design phase." The raft won’t get built right away, but who’s to care?

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Empty beer kegs provide excellent flotation.

The best procedure, of course, is to buy them full and empty them during the summer-long "design phase."<< — Gould I thought you had to take the empties back. OT Archie Bunker quote: "You can never buy beer – you only rent it."

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We used to make them out of metal 55 gallon barrels. I imagine plastic would be even better nowadays. Cheap, maybe free depending on where you find them. Hello.  I am told sometimes making rafts is discussed here.  If not, perhaps some of you can direct me to another newsgroup.  My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                 Many Thanks, Becky

– Keith In the ongoing battle between objects made of fiberglass going tens of miles per hour and the shore going zero miles per hour, the shore has yet to lose.

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You might want to try the newsgroup call " rec.boats.building".  There was a thread there some months back where someone posted a similar question and received a lot of responses to help him calculate the size of pipe needed based on weight and bouyancy needs. BillS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello.  I am told sometimes making rafts is discussed here.  If not, perhaps some of you can direct me to another newsgroup.  My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                 Many Thanks, Becky

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Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind. To reduce the freeboard, you could let water into the drums to ballast it down. I wouldn’t recomend steel drums, even if your are in a freshwater pond. I learned from experience that drums, once they leak and fill, are amost impossible to get out of even a shallow pond. You can’t drain the water out until you get them on dry land. Have you ever tried to roll a 300 lb drum in mud?? So if you go the drum route, I recommend you get the plastic ones and also get new gaskets for the bungs. The old ones will usually not seal properly. There are some smaller drums in plastic. I think 20 gal., they would be perfect. Around here, some of the marinas float their docks on tires filled with foam. I think they stack about 3 tires and fill them with pour-in-place foam. Then they build the dock on top of a series of these tire floats. They have a funny bounce when you walk on them, especially if they are only two tire floats wide. Those who use the styrofoam floats are required to incapsolate them to prevent the crabs from tearing the foam apart and floating around for eternity. One method was to wrap them in several layers of garbage bags before putting them under the raft or dock. Seems to last for a few years. I strongly recommend that you turn this project over to a couple 12 year old boys with access to a lot of scrap lumber, nails, a hammer and a saw. "And then a future boat builder is born." It would be a shame to take this rare opportunity away from those who deserve that ‘life experience’ and have some adult delute it with technical stuff. — My experience and opinion, FWIW. Steve S/V Good Intentions

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Hello.  I am told sometimes making rafts is discussed here.  If not, perhaps some of you can direct me to another newsgroup.  My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                Many Thanks, Becky

Check around to the pool cleaning companies in your area.  They all get many chemicals for swimming pools in these neat, resealable, poly containers that usually just get thrown out.  Start collecting them cheap or free.  You might also check around for a company specializing in 55 gallon drums.  They have many usable discards you might find just right for your float.  We used to weld them together and make pontoon boats out of them….two lines of 55 gal oil drums welded together into pontoons with the front end one bent up into a "bow" so it would pass through the water smoothly….(c; Larry

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How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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The lid seals are seldom reuseable. From my experience, the gasket pulls out upon intial removal of the lid. However you can purchase new lids for a couple bucks a the home improvement store. Good suggestion. Steve s/v Good Intentions

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How about 5 gal. plastic buckets?  Any new home under construction that is in

the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids.<< — Kelly Wouldn’t you need to seal the lids on with adhesive?

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How about 5 gal. plastic buckets?  Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids.<< — Kelly Wouldn’t you need to seal the lids on with adhesive?

Silly-cone caulk would work. db

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The problem with the plastic buckets is that they will be toast if left in the sun for any time.  After a few months in the sun, you can break the edges of your typical "pickle bucket" with your fingers.  Most marine supply store sell rectangular sealed poly boxes with UV stabilized plastic.  They are made to serve as floats for docks and such.  Those would work, and they even have grooves and eye-holes for attaching together or securing to the wooden dock. BillS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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Not the plastic buckets I have around here (contractor plaster pails). These things are like an ex-wife, they never go away. I’ve had a couple sitting outside in the weather and sun for over 6 years to water my dog (pails, not ex-wives).  I just gave one a big kick yesterday because it was in my way (pail, not ex-wife). I have other sitting around with drain holes and filled with scrap lead. Even the handles allow me to lift them (albeit, not very high or far). I’d say there pretty tough and enduring. It’s the lids that never seem to last if  you can get them with the pails. (now if the ex-wife came with a lid, maybe I could shut her up also.) — My experience and opinion, FWIW. Steve S/V Good Intentions

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Hell, I liked the original poster’s original idea – PVC pipe. I’ve seen this done, I know folks locally who made floating duck blinds like that. They used fairly large diameter pipe, and capped the ends with glued-on caps. Easy, strong, effective. Mr. Has A Horrible Headache

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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Not the plastic buckets I have around here (contractor plaster pails). These things are like an ex-wife, they never go away.

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There was discussion on building pontoon boats for one-man fishing floats out of 12" PVC pipe on rec.outdoors.fishing.fly maybe a year ago.  One of the regulars on that group regularly fishes the Baltic one one of these craft.  He STRONGLY recommends filling the pontoons with stryrofoam.  

  That sounds like a real good idea.  It’ll also strengthen them.  Remember, PVC pipe left in the sun gets brittle, it might help keep them from cracking. http://hometown.aol.com/hlaviation/

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Well, what wonderful imaginative ideas!  We are so very grateful for the great response.  Many thanks.   Becky & Roy

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We used to pay $5 for the used poly drums from the barrel supplier.  They have some that are watertight, but can not store certain items in.  So they sell them cheap. Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello.  I am told sometimes making rafts is discussed here.  If not, perhaps some of you can direct me to another newsgroup.  My husband and I want to make a light weight raft for our pond without spending a fortune.  We were thinking of PVC pipe for the bottom as pontoons of sorts.  Any ideas?                Many Thanks, Becky Check around to the pool cleaning companies in your area.  They all get many chemicals for swimming pools in these neat, resealable, poly containers that usually just get thrown out.  Start collecting them cheap or free.  You might also check around for a company specializing in 55 gallon drums.  They have many usable discards you might find just right for your float.  We used to weld them together and make pontoon boats out of them….two lines of 55 gal oil drums welded together into pontoons with the front end one bent up into a "bow" so it would pass through the water smoothly….(c; Larry

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Agreed, foam-filled would be desirable on a boat.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There was discussion on building pontoon boats for one-man fishing floats out of 12" PVC pipe on rec.outdoors.fishing.fly maybe a year ago.  One of the regulars on that group regularly fishes the Baltic one one of these craft.  He STRONGLY recommends filling the pontoons with stryrofoam.  If the pontoons get holed or otherwise leaky you need something in them to keep them from filling with water and sinking. john message Hell, I liked the original poster’s original idea – PVC pipe. I’ve seen this done, I know folks locally who made floating duck blinds like that. They used fairly large diameter pipe, and capped the ends with glued-on caps. Easy, strong, effective. Mr. Has A Horrible Headache How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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There was discussion on building pontoon boats for one-man fishing floats out of 12" PVC pipe on rec.outdoors.fishing.fly maybe a year ago.  One of the regulars on that group regularly fishes the Baltic one one of these craft.  He STRONGLY recommends filling the pontoons with stryrofoam.  If the pontoons get holed or otherwise leaky you need something in them to keep them from filling with water and sinking. john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell, I liked the original poster’s original idea – PVC pipe. I’ve seen this done, I know folks locally who made floating duck blinds like that. They used fairly large diameter pipe, and capped the ends with glued-on caps. Easy, strong, effective. Mr. Has A Horrible Headache How about 5 gal. plastic buckets? Any new home under construction that is in the drywall phase will have lots of drywall compound buckets and the lids. Just make sure you ask before you take them! Barrells tend to make the raft ride too high (I built one as a kid). Difficult to climb aboard without a long boarding ladder. For stabililty you need four so that makes a pretty large raft, maybe more than you had in mind.

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  I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in   the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

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For Truckee area fishing reports go to www.flyline.com   The reports are pretty accurate and are updated every day and provides alot of useful info. You can also call the Truckee River Outfitters-a local Fly Fishing Shop.  I don’t know their number, but google probably can get it for you. Good Luck Rob L

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

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  I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew

I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

– Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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The Truckee & Little Truckee get pounded pretty good, be prepared for slow fishing unless you can consider yourself expert.  These two rivers were some of the original Wild Trout programs in CA, along with Martis Lakw-They are C&R only,with barbless hooks or flies only allowed.  However, there are BIG FISH in these and other nearby waters.  Get the Truckee River acess map, and plan before you go. Rob L – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV — Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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The Truckee & Little Truckee get pounded pretty good, be prepared for slow fishing unless you can consider yourself expert.  These two rivers were some of the original Wild Trout programs in CA, along with Martis Lakw-They are C&R only,with barbless hooks or flies only allowed.  However, there are BIG FISH in these and other nearby waters.  Get the Truckee River acess map, and plan before you go. Rob L

Hi Rob. Are these fish comming up from Pyramide Lake ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV — Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

– Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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As far as I know they aren’t Pyramid Lake fish.  For an excellent resource on the Truckee and Pyramid, call the Truckee River Outfitters and ask one of their guy’s.  Some of them also work in their other shop in Reno and do guided trips and instruction in both areas.  They have always been forthcoming with good info. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are these fish comming up from Pyramide Lake ?

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Hi, I am from France and have been fishing in southern Utah few times and I enjoyed uit very much the colorado river down stream Lake Powell is jsut wonderful have a look at : http://www.leesferry.com/ and there is also some great places where brown trouts are waiting for your fly have a good time , and feel free to ask further information if needed

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You guys have to check out "The Bug" from the recent fly swap.  It looks like a red soft hackle indicator.  I can’t wait to fish it.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Unfortunately this does not work on "single fly only" waters ! Yes, but I’m thinking I might squeak through the loophole if I slip a hook into my strike indicator

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Unfortunately this does not work on "single fly only" waters !

Yes, but I’m thinking I might squeak through the loophole if I slip a hook into my strike indicator

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I have never used a bite indicator, nor have I used a dry fly for this purpose.  I do use Mucilin to make the leader float,  and use a Water knot appropriately. I have noticed these days on the local pond that BI’s are all the rage; virtually everyone uses one when fishing buzzers. I have also noticed (from watching a few people) that the BI seems to impede the long distance presentation of the fly:  is this the case? Is there any merit with the BI over the tin of Mucilin (apart from the extreme visibility of the BI)?

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I have never used a bite indicator, nor have I used a dry fly for this purpose.  I do use Mucilin to make the leader float,  and use a Water knot appropriately.

Okay mate, I don’t care what you call them over there but they are called strike indicators.  SI instead of BI.  You can understand the implications of that I hope <g I have noticed these days on the local pond that BI’s are all the rage; virtually everyone uses one when fishing buzzers.

Probably because they work. I have also noticed (from watching a few people) that the BI seems to impede the long distance presentation of the fly:  is this the case?

Yes and no.  Once you become accustomed to them,  you will learn how to read them. Is there any merit with the BI over the tin of Mucilin (apart from the extreme visibility of the BI)?

Yes, it takes more to twitch them than it does with just a greased line.  If you are dragging the bottom this could help eliminate false indications.  Also, I find that they do not sink as often as the end of a fly line.  I fish with one more often than without when nymphing. The reason is simple, I do not like the big blob of material on the surface, but it does help in visibility, helps keep the fly or flies at a constant depth, is easy to change instead of changing the length of leader or tippet, and also is not as prone to being drug under the surface as a fly line. There is my analysis and is only my personal opinion.  Some people would rather be burned at the stake than use a strike indicator (KEN F!) <g — Warren Findley Can the Spam! Send Muskie complaints to:

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0] : I have never used a bite indicator, nor have I used a dry fly for : this : purpose.  I do use Mucilin to make the leader float,  and use a : Water knot : appropriately. : Okay mate, I don’t care what you call them over there but they are : called strike indicators.  SI instead of BI.  You can understand the : implications of that I hope <g : I have noticed these days on the local pond that BI’s are all the : rage; : virtually everyone uses one when fishing buzzers. : Probably because they work. : I have also noticed (from watching a few people) that the BI seems : to impede : the long distance presentation of the fly:  is this the case? : Yes and no.  Once you become accustomed to them,  you will learn how : to read them. : Is there any merit with the BI over the tin of Mucilin (apart from : the : extreme visibility of the BI)? : Yes, it takes more to twitch them than it does with just a greased : line.  If you are dragging the bottom this could help eliminate false : indications.  Also, I find that they do not sink as often as the end : of a fly line.  I fish with one more often than without when nymphing. : The reason is simple, I do not like the big blob of material on the : surface, but it does help in visibility, helps keep the fly or flies : at a constant depth, is easy to change instead of changing the length : of leader or tippet, and also is not as prone to being drug under the : surface as a fly line. : There is my analysis and is only my personal opinion.  Some people : would rather be burned at the stake than use a strike indicator (KEN : F!) <g : — : Warren Findley : Can the Spam! : Send Muskie complaints to: If your have the hook, the fake bait and the indicator all in one package it’s called a dry fly, and it’s just dandy, but if you consider separating any of these elements, some people seem to get pretty upset. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491              

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bobbers. Start insulting strike indicators and I will change the subject to smelly old waders . . . .;-) Warren

hell, that’s something i know nothing about.    d;^) –walt

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–waldo

At last someone is calling them what they are. Thanks Waldo!!! Big Dale

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Start insulting strike indicators and I will change the subject to smelly old waders . . . .;-) hell, that’s something i know nothing about.    d;^)

I thought not <g Warren

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bobbers.

Start insulting strike indicators and I will change the subject to smelly old waders . . . .;-) Warren

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Unfortunately this does not work on "single fly only" waters ! TL MC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He didn’t ask about using a dry fly as an indicator is my defense <g I do love summer and fall because I use dries as the indicator.  If you need an indicator it might as well be something that can catch fish!  I just forget about this during the winter. . .

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He didn’t ask about using a dry fly as an indicator is my defense <g I do love summer and fall because I use dries as the indicator.  If you need an indicator it might as well be something that can catch fish!  I just forget about this during the winter. . . Thanks for picking up the slack. Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nice to see there are more pragmatic people here. My thoughts _exactly_. Thanks, Herman <snip If your have the hook, the fake bait and the indicator all in one package it’s called a dry fly, and it’s just dandy, but if you consider separating any of these elements, some people seem to get pretty upset. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories Rd.)  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491 — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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I have never used a bite indicator, nor have I used a dry fly for this purpose.  I do use Mucilin to make the leader float,  and use a Water knot appropriately. Okay mate, I don’t care what you call them over there but they are called strike indicators.  SI instead of BI.  You can understand the implications of that I hope <g

bobbers. –waldo

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Nice to see there are more pragmatic people here. My thoughts _exactly_. Thanks, Herman

<snip If your have the hook, the fake bait and the indicator all in one package it’s called a dry fly, and it’s just dandy, but if you consider separating any of these elements, some people seem to get pretty upset. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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 The Department eventually adopted 33 of these "suggestions" …..

To clarify – the ODFW angling regulation task force, upon which the Oregon Council FFF has a seat, reviewed 900+ proposals and ultimately forwarded 33 (?) for further consideration by the ODFW and the Fish and Wildlife Commission (the final decision rests with the Commission). AS OF NOW, the Department is recommending *against* catch and release for Davis Lake, and their last minute reasons have come as a complete surprise to the Oregon Council FFF and other clubs.  The Commission will decide the fate of Davis during their September 22 hearing. I’m trying to get my comments in, and need to get my butt in gear and share them with all of you so you can make comments. For those that do not know, this is the first time a task force of angling and other representatives has been put together to pre-filter what has historically been a mass of regulation change proposals (some individuals would submit dozens of changes without demonstrating any broad support).  An early point of contention on the new process is whether the proposals being forwarded by the task force to the commission were being recommended for approval by the commission, or whether the tasks forces only job was to look for proposals that had broad support of any kind, or some reason to be debated further in front of the commission. Evidently some of the angling representatives on the task force felt the former (forwarding meant recommending for approval), and felt caught off guard when the ODFW made contrary recommendations *after* all the public meetings and after the task force had concluded its business. Thomas Gilg

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This will be a news item that would interest those who fish in Oregon (and those of you who visit).  The Federation of Fly Fishers, Oregon Council was able to present 160 rule changes to the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.  The Department eventually adopted 33 of these "suggestions" and the principle gain for the fly fishing community was the removal of the harvest on Davis Lake (catch and release only).  In addition to this major proposal, the Department agreed to close the Odell Creek channel form the buoy upstream to the Forest Service road between the east and west campgrounds to protect spawning beds. My thanks to the volunteers at our local chapter, who worked so hard, so we all could benefit from their splendid efforts. Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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 The Department eventually adopted 33 of these "suggestions" ….. To clarify – the ODFW angling regulation task force, upon which the Oregon Council FFF has a seat, reviewed 900+ proposals and ultimately forwarded 33 (?) for further consideration by the ODFW and the Fish and Wildlife Commission (the final decision rests with the Commission). AS OF NOW, the Department is recommending *against* catch and release for Davis Lake, and their last minute reasons have come as a complete surprise to the Oregon Council FFF and other clubs <snipped

Thomas, thanks for bringing this news up-to-date and correcting the lastest statements from FFF. (I was quoting the __Oregon Fly Fisher Newsletter I rec’d in the mail today).  I am sorry to hear about their recommendation against the Davis Lake proposal, in fact I am stunned.  I am in SW Washington and I would be happy to show up at any meetings you think would assist in getting the Oregon Council proposals adopted.  I purchase an out-of-state fishing license every year, so I believe I have a say here even though I am not a resident of the great State of Oregon. — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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I have a flyfishing site on the web. Feel welcome. Turn on your sound if you have it.

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<<I have a flyfishing site on the web. Feel welcome. Turn on your sound if you have it. Uhhhh, I have sound, and I sure can see, but I don’t know how to get there without a url.  <g Dave LaCourse

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Hi, I’m new to this NG and want to start with flyfishing, Can anyone give me some info on do’s and don’t ? Are there any good sites with info ? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Fred.

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Search dejanews on this ng and you’ll find all kinds of good advice on technique, lots of sometimes conflicting advice on equipment, and some downright weird advice on politics and ethics<g. Have fun and welcome aboard. Hi, I’m new to this NG and want to start with flyfishing, Can anyone give me some info on do’s and don’t ? Are there any good sites with info ? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Fred.

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threads as we get this question (FAQ) "Frequently Asked Question more then a doze times a year.  However; I’ll give you my version in how it is best answered. 1)  Buy the book "Matching the Hatch" and use it as your number one fly fishing bible.  Buy this book first. 2)  Go to a fly shop fishing pro and find yourself a mentor and/or take lessons out of that store. 3)  Take a fly tying course. Remember, there are different stages of fly fishermen who catch the most fish. 1) The beginner 2) The intermediate 3) The master 4) The local ?  you ask?  The local is the one that usually breaks the most fishing laws and is probably the main poacher in the area.  They think they own everything. Hope this helps you get off on the right foot. Finally, use Gehrke’s Gink to float all your flies and Xink to sink all your wets.  Your wife will like that Fred. ; ) George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s Gink Hi, I’m new to this NG and want to start with flyfishing, Can anyone give me some info on do’s and don’t ? Are there any good sites with info ? Any help would be appreciated Thanks

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Howell Raines’ great book "Fly Fishing the Midlife Crisis" is on sale for only $5.99 at www.bargainbookwarehouse.com. In the stores it sells for $22. I don’t think they have any other fishing books.

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"Fly Fishing Through the Midlife Crisis" I agree that it is an excellent read, and I’m not even at mid-life yet…Clint – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howell Raines’ great book "Fly Fishing the Midlife Crisis" is on sale for only $5.99 at www.bargainbookwarehouse.com. In the stores it sells for $22. I don’t think they have any other fishing books.

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        I live in Ohio and would like to know where would be a good place to go and try a little fly fishing!!  I am new at it so I am not that experienced with figuring the hatches and etc.  I live near columbus.  Bass and trout are what I would mainly like to fish for! Eric

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       I live in Ohio and would like to know where would be a good place to go and try a little fly fishing!!  I am new at it so I am not that experienced with figuring the hatches and etc.  I live near columbus.  Bass and trout are what I would mainly like to fish for! Eric

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Try the Grand River by Painesville, OH there is a park called Helen Wyzman park where there is good Smallmouth fishing.  There is also steelhead on the river in the fall.  Also, Conneaut River by Conneaut, OH is very good for steelhead.  There are quite a few other places try contacting the Valley Angler in Chagrin Falls they can give you more info

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:        I live in Ohio and would like to know where would be a good place to : go and try a little fly fishing!!  I am new at it so I am not that : experienced with figuring the hatches and etc.  I live near columbus.  Bass : and trout are what I would mainly like to fish for! You may want to try out the Scioto river and the Olentangy north of Columbus. They are excellent smallmouth waters. If you feel like going for trout, try the Mad River between Urbanna and Zanesfield. Anywhere that the road crosses over is an access point on the Mad. Also, check out the Department of Natural Resources and the Department of Wildlife. They both have loads of info on whats available in the state. DNR also has a publications division with lots of free maps and info on the outdoors in this state. They are located on Belcher Drive in Columbus. Check the phone book for numbers on where to call. Jon Porter

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        I live in Ohio and would like to know where would be a good place to go and try a little fly fishing!!  I am new at it so I am not that experienced with figuring the hatches and etc.  I live near columbus.  Bass and trout are what I would mainly like to fish for! Eric

Some years ago I read an article about the Mad River, which I believe is down your ways.  My memory of the piece is sketchy, but I still remember being astounded when I read that this stream (or parts of it) is a cold water fishery with holdovers and even some wild trout. Can anyone verify or correct this? Also, since moving to Cleveland I’ve been avoiding lake fishing, simply because I don’t have a boat and shore access can be frustrating.  Well last week, I bit the bullet and went over to Findley Lake, south of Oberlin.  The day was overcast and gloomy, there was a strong breeze, but a number of fishermen dotted the shore and lake.  I think they were surprised/curious to see a fly-guy on the lake, as more than a few of them walked my way to check me out.  I got there around 10 A.M. and in the 2 hours before the park filled up with picnicers, I caught 4 heavy bluegills and a smallish largemouth, all on a #14 black streamer.  It was great fun, made even better by the look of disgust of a nearby fisherman when he saw that I was putting all the fish back in the lake. Andy

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: Some years ago I read an article about the Mad River, which I believe is : down your ways.  My memory of the piece is sketchy, but I still remember : being astounded when I read that this stream (or parts of it) is a cold : water fishery with holdovers and even some wild trout. : Can anyone verify or correct this? Yeppers.  This is all true. Since you live in Ohio, check your fishing regs. There is Info there on the Mad. Also, check with your local District office of the DNR (listed in the regs) For information on the Clear Fork of the Mohican River. The state started stocking that with trout also. And it is much closer to you in Cleveland. Jon Porter

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What is the outlook for flyfishing Mamoth this spring and summer. Lots of insects again.  Any good spots to recommend?

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I’ll be out that way from Reno, NV the last week in June–just wondered if anybody knows these waters and what might be suggested? Thanks!

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Does anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are.

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Does anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are.

http://flyfish.com is one and it has extensive links to other FF only websites.

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Does anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are.

My page!  Raske’s Fly Fishing In Maine http://www.mint.net/~raske/index.html regards, R.A. Skehan

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: oes anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to :flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are. : : There are several hundred at least.  Simply use any one of the various search engines available at no charge to you, me or anyone else (Yahoo, Web Crawler, Excite, c-nets search.com, etc.).  Search on fly fishing and set back, they will roll by from all over the world.  Hundreds Jerry Shepherd

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: oes anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to :flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are.

   There are a bunch. Try:  http://www.flyline.com   for starters. It’s the best on the net but then again I wrote it so there might be just a bit of bias in the opinion    Ralph —

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There also is  http://www.flyshop.no/

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There are lots and lots, you can do a search on any of the search engines or check out my page.  It’s in my sig file. : oes anyone out there know if there are any WEB pages devoted to :flyfishing only?  If so please let me know what the URL for them are.

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Hi if you are looking for fly fishing products my home page is http//www.junction.net/herbys/

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