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The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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Frank, Since I don’t see much advice – I can offer my 2cents – the area you’ll be in is a tough one to come up with "non salt" unless you want to drive a long distance. If your interested I’ll post a map of the area and a few suggestions on possible light saltwater flyfishing. Gary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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Thanks Gary, but that being the case I’ll just drop my load and hustle on home. I’ll work on my dispatcher to get me a run to Florida instead. Frank Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank, Since I don’t see much advice – I can offer my 2cents – the area you’ll be in is a tough one to come up with "non salt" unless you want to drive a long distance. If your interested I’ll post a map of the area and a few suggestions on possible light saltwater flyfishing. Gary The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination? Dave L.

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<< Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? I would have to say more time on my home waters in North Central Washington State would be ideal for next year.  (I know its a boring answer but it is where I love to fish and I never get enough time there.) << Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? A little river in British Columbia that I spent hours on as a teenager.  I fish it 2-6 times a year but it is never enough.  Wild rainbows, no other fisherman in sight and incredible scenary. << Where in South America? Don’t know much about South America but I would love to give fishing a try in and around Cozumel or Roatan, Honduras.  I visited both this summer and didn’t get a chance to fish. Mike

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<<Where the ROFFians gather. You politician, you. dave

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – only if my son was fishing with me. , when my arms didn’t ache, and my legs were wading staffs, I never considered the condition of my heart, and there was always a good fish waiting in the next run. wayno Wayno.I’m know some places in S.A. where the rum is cheap and the beer is definitely  factor in to your heart consideration……the fish bite river…..    Reading your response made think about fishing just a little

        well, hell, john, let’s go find that next pool.  maybe the ladies will welcome our canoe. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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What would be your number one destination?

Ambergris Caye, Belize, CA. — Charlie…

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After Codemarine’s post of his Monster Bluegill and the picture of it I would have to say my number one destination would be Steve’s Pond. Big Dale  

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Or the couch in my office. Steve Zimmerman

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After Codemarine’s post of his Monster Bluegill and the picture of it I would have to say my number one destination would be Steve’s Pond. Big Dale

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If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)?

I don’t know why not, especially given many of the great reports here; but I don’t really long for far-off places.  There’s good fishing right in my backyard (sorry, Dorothy).    Instead, I long for more and better times on the streams I know, from the local Gunpowder Falls to Maine’s great rivers such as the Penobscot, Kennebec, and a few others. There are a few rivers which are but a fable to me, that I’d like to fish sometime.   The rivers of Idaho, Montana, Colorado, and Wyoming have a lure, but I’d also like to fish the Miramichi for salmon and an English chalk stream at least once, just for the history. Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)?

I’d like to visit Newfoundland. Where in South America?

Don’t know enough to pick. What would be your number one destination?

As long as I’m on a good stream with a fly rod in my hand, it’s location on the earth is important only as tourism.   I’d love to visit Australia, though. Joe F.

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If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)?

 With time travel ;The Upper Dean, 20 years ago. Today, most of Montana Where in South America? no desire What would be your number one destination?

The Sunlite Basin Area,Wyoming Harry E. Mason www.Troutflies.com

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1) The North Umpqua River 2) The Kispiox River 3) Only been to Costa Rica and Panama 4) Pinoi River Good Question!!! Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination? Dave L.

Before you buy.

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Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination? Dave L.

   If I could I’d go to El Pescador in Belize for tarpon.   –tony

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Cape Lookout, NC from October to Thanksgiving!!!!!!  :-) — Flyfish NC                                                   Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com                                                                  

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2ivf0fk.dialup.mindspring.com, Cape Lookout, NC from October to Thanksgiving!!!!!!  :-)

Gordon: That brings up a question.  Has the hurricane made any difference in your "normal" fishing pattern there?  Water temps, species, timing on migratory fish, anything like that? BTW, what would you be catching from October to Thanksgiving? Bob Before you buy.

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Charlie – you will therefore understand my regret that I have been to Belize twice on business for 2 weeks each time and did not flyfish because I was still a worm drowner.  Now I just think what I missed, not once but twice! I even had a boat of my own whilst there and stayed on St Georges and San Pedro. Dohh!!

I do understand. Great country. I hope you at least fished off the reef and got in a little snorkeling. — Charlie…

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Charlie – you will therefore understand my regret that I have been to Belize twice on business for 2 weeks each time and did not flyfish because I was still a worm drowner.  Now I just think what I missed, not once but twice! I even had a boat of my own whilst there and stayed on St Georges and San Pedro. Dohh!! David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What would be your number one destination? Ambergris Caye, Belize, CA. — Charlie…

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1.  US: Wherever any of you US ROFF chaps really recommended. 2.  N America: Labrador (fuelled by your posts!) (and I can fish the Miramichi anytime without a guide anyway!) 3.  S America:  Belize, partly for opportunities lost (see post elsewhere in thread) 4.  Anywhere:  The Falkland Islands because they are the reason I got into flyfishing in the first place (and then at the last minute before a 4 month trip there I did not go!) and because a good friend of mine has just returned from 6 months there and keeps regaling me with tales of rivers full of sea trout that have never been fished before.  Actually I got engaged to my wife just before the trip that was cancelled so it gave me a wife and fly fishing in one go! David reflecting on what might have been and what may yet be! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination? Dave L.

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If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing

The McCloud, the Upper Sac., Hat Creek, about 15-20 years ago. Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)?

Baja California, both the Pacific side and the Sea of Cortez.  Or British Columbia 40 years ago. Where in South America?

Someplace soft and green, where the women perfume their breasts. What would be your number one destination?

Somewhere, anywhere, 15 minutes from home. Anglerboy. — Trout fear me, Women want me.

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Where in South America? Someplace soft and green, where the women perfume their breasts.

        well, ol boy, if you *ever* need a fishin partner, just give ol wayno a call.  3362751231.  thankyaverymuch. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anglerboy. — Trout fear me, Women want me.

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Bob Peters: <<That brings up a question.  Has the hurricane made any difference in your "normal" fishing pattern there?  Water temps, species, timing on migratory fish, anything like that? According to tonight’s evening news, Floyd’s floods in NC have washed all sorts of bad things into Pamlico Sound.  There is great worry about the entire area becoming a "dead zone". Dave L.

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Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)?

        four mile creek, colorado; but only if my son was fishing with me. Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination?

        hazel creek, with the clock turned back to 1980, when my arms didn’t ache, and my legs were wading staffs, i never considered the condition of my heart, and there was always a good fish waiting in the next run.         wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dave L.

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Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)?

Yellowstone, but please excuse me if I don’t name the stream. Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)?

Labrador, if I could paddle my canoe into the backcountry and fish without a guide. Where in South America?

Not a clue. What would be your number one destination?

Where the ROFFians gather. — Ken Fortenberry Illini 3 – Tar Heels 1

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only if my son was fishing with me. , when my arms didn’t ache, and my legs were wading staffs, I never considered the condition of my heart, and there was always a good fish waiting in the next run. wayno

Wayno.I’m know some places in S.A. where the rum is cheap and the beer is definitely  factor in to your heart consideration……the fish bite river…..     Reading your response made think about fishing just a little

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Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)?

The Stellako River, in BC.  beautiful river, a long F’ing way from anywhere.  Or the Blackwater. Where in South America?

I hope that someday I have the experience to answer this question. What would be your number one destination?

Well, you disqualified Alaska, but that’s my favorite.  Sleep with the bears at night, catch enormous fish during the day.  Live the way folks used to.  See www.aa.net/andrewbr/~alaska99/ to see what I mean. Dave L.

– Andrew Brunette

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Lower 48 Rivers flowing out of the Blue Mountains in SE Washington State, and the rivers flowing out of the Willowas mountains in NE Oregon, plus the Imnaha. North America Kobuk river drainage East of Kotzebue South America Ive heard there are some great streams flowing out of the Andes in Tuccucom Province in Argentina. Number One Kobuk, just because I was offered a guiding slot there once by a friend and have always wondered what I passed up. Too old now. Have no idea if the fishing would be good or bad or whatever. Dave

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I would simply ask for more time to fish.. Winter is almost upon us.  In addition to tying next year’s supply of lures, it is a time to dream and plan. If you could and price did not matter, where in the U.S. would you go fly fishing (not including Alaska)? Where in North America (excluding the lower 48)? Where in South America? What would be your number one destination? Dave L.

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Hey Wayno, She’s coming to Beech Mountain with me.  Anything in particular I need to do to shield her from Wataguan Waldo? Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hey Wayno, She’s coming to Beech Mountain with me.  Anything in particular I need to do to shield her from Wataguan Waldo? Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

        awh, hell, don’t you fret about ol waldo:  he comes equipped with chick repellant.         on the other hand, i can only warn you to keep her the hell away from me… wayno

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Hey Wayno,    awh, hell, don’t you fret about ol waldo:  he comes equipped with chick repellant.    on the other hand, i can only warn you to keep her the hell away from me… wayno

Wayno, She’s a CPS worker.  She takes to defense attorneys like a killer bee does to bright yellow! Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Monday, July 5 was unusually hot here in Virginia.  This was going to be dicey at best.  I have a brand new lady friend who does not fish.  We had spent a wonderful weekend enjoying the 4th of July festivities.  I suggested we ride an hour to the mountains taking a picnic lunch and enjoy a cool mountain stream (sounds good so far, huh!).  We arrived on the upper Rapidan about noon.  The sky brilliant blue, the sun bright and the cooler mountain temperature in the mid 80’s.  We eased a couple of miles along the dirt road leading into the Shenandoah National Park and my companion began to question my ability to get us back out! Finding a suitable spot (one I hadn’t fished before) we prepared for a short hike to the river.  I carried the back pack as well as a fishing vest (had to, it had the bug repellent!) and just happened to have my 3 wt. rod on hand.  I had made sure this young, nubile thing had seen "A River Runs Through It" just a couple of weeks before.  She was primed to see a re-creation of the 4 count miracle.  Stopping by stream side I pointed out a couple of Sulfurs and a fly which for all the world resembled a #20 Adams. I situated her on a rock and sit the pack down beside her.  I tied on a #20 Adams and let the line float in the air like a slow motion movie camera. The fly touched down at the edge of a fast run and drifted drag-free a few inches.  I think she squealed when the Brookie gulped down the offering.  I carefully played the fish past an underwater snag and brought the beautiful little fish to hand.  She already had the camera out and was taking pictures.  We paused and talked about how important it is to release the fish.  These are catch and release/barbless hook waters.  We then opened the picnic lunch and feasted on roast beef Pannini and fresh fruit.  while she sat on the large boulder finishing lunch I made a few more casts to the same pool getting 4 more strikes for my efforts.  We packed up and moved a little upstream.  I cast ahead of us as we moved slowly along.  She was enjoying the beautiful mountain scenery and cascading waters.  The pools seemed full of fish.  I only had to change flys once because my Adams was chewed beyond recognition.  A new Adams and a little Gink kept the action going.  After awhile she sat on a rock while watching me fish a long pool.  She sat back and watched the trees move against the sky and relaxed in the cooling mountain breeze.  At the head of the pool I turned and walked back and we trekked back to the van hand-in-hand. A beautiful woman, a beautiful mountain river, beautiful Brooke trout and discussions of a good movie.  Guys, chocolate, flowers, and liqueur could never work like this!  I don’t think she will take up fly fishing but I think she will accompany me on lots of mountain trout trips. Wayne To fish is human…to release divine.

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Monday, July 5 was unusually hot here in Virginia.  This was going to be dicey at best.  I have a brand new lady friend who does not fish.  We had spent a wonderful weekend enjoying the 4th of July festivities.  I suggested we ride an hour to the mountains taking a picnic lunch and enjoy a cool mountain stream (sounds good so far, huh!).

        (idyllic narrative snipped, out of respect for the truth) A beautiful woman, a beautiful mountain river, beautiful Brooke trout and discussions of a good movie.  Guys, chocolate, flowers, and liqueur could never work like this!  I don’t think she will take up fly fishing but I think she will accompany me on lots of mountain trout trips.

        well, at last:  hart finds a honey hole.  and the remainder of the female population of the commonwealth can relax.:):):) Wayne To fish is human…to release divine.

        shucks, wayne, just kiddin…thanks for sharing a beautiful day. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Wayne:  Now this is a trip report of the first magnitude.  It combines all the necessary elements.. fish caught, intimations of sex, exotic surroundings…. Don’t worry about Wayno – she’s too old for his taste these days. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Monday, July 5 was unusually hot here in Virginia.  This was going to be dicey at best.  I have a brand new lady friend who does not fish.  We had spent a wonderful weekend enjoying the 4th of July festivities.  I suggested we ride an hour to the mountains taking a picnic lunch and enjoy a cool mountain stream (sounds good so far, huh!).  [remainder snipped]

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Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? I’d like to flyfish for trout in May. Some place nice…the wife is coming too. Thanks!

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<<Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? Pourvoire?  Housekeeping cabins?   Dave LaCourse

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Howdy from Quebec: I can recommend "Pourvoirie Real Masse" in St-Zenon. It is located 2 hours from Montreal. It is a great place for easy fishing an a happy wife. All the lakes are stocked. The food is fantastic. If you are interested I can give you more information. Could be a little late for reservation for may 1999… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? I’d like to flyfish for trout in May. Some place nice…the wife is coming too. Thanks!

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dave –  i think "pourvoire" is one of them fancy words frequently used by Jim Roberts (a/k/a pamlico jim)  after an evening at the Villa Roma Bar, (jim begins talkin some kind of foreign language after a couple hours), ‘cept he pronounces it "pervoir"…as in…"damn, ya’ll, i think that there fella’s a pervoir"…you don’t want to put jim in any pervoir cabin, i assure you…  (seems there ought to be a pourvoire closer than 6 hours from montreal though) …course, it might be that the word really means "i see you pour forth" or "i watch you urinate", in which case the guy using it is a "pervoir"…but it might be that somebody simply misspelled the thing and meant "Pourboire", which is a tip for a good drink, which is just fine with me, and jim i suppose. (sorry to intrude, but the whiskey got me goin and i just couldn’t help myself…) jeff

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Howdy from Quebec: I can recommend "Pourvoirie Real Masse" in St-Zenon. It is located 2 hours from Montreal. It is a great place for easy fishing an a happy wife. All the lakes are stocked. The food is fantastic. If you are interested I can give you more information. Could be a little late for reservation for may 1999… Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? I’d like to flyfish for trout in May. Some place nice…the wife is coming too. Thanks!

For those who dont know what "pourvoirie" means… "Outfitter"  Michel

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well hell…if he’d said "pourvoirie", we’d all have understood…but he said "pourvoire"…aarrgg…don’t you just hate it when that happens… jeff

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Got a web site I could look at? Also, I don’t like boats much. Can I use my waders here? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Howdy from Quebec: I can recommend "Pourvoirie Real Masse" in St-Zenon. It is located 2 hours from Montreal. It is a great place for easy fishing an a happy wife. All the lakes are stocked. The food is fantastic. If you are interested I can give you more information. Could be a little late for reservation for may 1999… Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? I’d like to flyfish for trout in May. Some place nice…the wife is coming too. Thanks!

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With Real Masse you will be fishing in lakes. Fishing is from 8 am to 5 pm.  Traveling from lodge to lake is by golf cart…. they clean and pack  your fish… followed by a "gastronomic meal"…. This is the place where fishermen take there non fishing wife… not the wild canadian outback. If this is not what you are looking I can give you the phone number of "Sentier Chasse et Peche" (Or I could mail you a copy). "Sentier chasse et peche" is a hunting and fishing magazine here in Quebec. Finally I can also suggest to contact Orvis fly fishing shop in Montreal. They can provide information. They also organize fishing trips.   Boutique Salmo Nature (Orvis) 110 McGill Montreal 514-871-8447 Regards – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Got a web site I could look at? Also, I don’t like boats much. Can I use my waders here? Howdy from Quebec: I can recommend "Pourvoirie Real Masse" in St-Zenon. It is located 2 hours from Montreal. It is a great place for easy fishing an a happy wife. All the lakes are stocked. The food is fantastic. If you are interested I can give you more information. Could be a little late for reservation for may 1999… Anyone got a recommendation for a nice pourvoire no more than 6 hours from Montreal? I’d like to flyfish for trout in May. Some place nice…the wife is coming too. Thanks!

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For great Fly Fishing in Wyoming, contact Paul at Jack Creek Outfitters.

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

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The folks in WY, in general, are about the same as people anywhere.  If anything, most go out of their way to be open and friendly.  There are psychopaths, misfits and criminals in WY just as there are in NY, LA, Iowa, Japan and elsewhere in the world.  Go and enjoy yourself.  You might consider NOT going into a cowboy bar, standing up on a stool and informing the patrons that Wyoming cowboys  are weenies. J. Rice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

I’m sad to report that it is not safe at all. Neither is Colorado. I’d go to Montana or Idaho if I were you. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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It depends on where you have Colorado plates on your car. If you come and rent a car don’t get it in Denver with Colorado plates. I get yeld at and get "flipped off" by passing Wyoming folks on my way to fishing in the great windy state. Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one, or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?  How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming? Own

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Is the Matthew Shepard case an isolated one,

I live in Wyoming; few people here condone the terrible fate of Matt Shepard. There are many rednecks, but the vast majority aren’t violent. or most people at Laramie, Wyoming are violent and hatred-charged?

Once again, this is (as far as I can see) an isolated event. People here for the most part don’t hate minorities, or want to do vilence to any group, but quite a few have plenty of bias based on sexual preference. How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

In my opinion, you’ll be very safe. The criminals who murdered Matt were not representatives of the state. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters.

Thin skinned?? Hey, I don’t mind you greenies fishing in my home water, so long as you don’t mind the caltrops. Just kidding, friend. Fish here all you like- I’ll welcome you anytime. But I won’t share my honey holes with you. You’ll have to earn them the same way I did- by working for them. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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How safe is it for me, an Asian American to visit Wyoming?

BTW, feel free to e-mail me if you need more info as to where to fish, stay, etc. Frank Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties,   1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights.       1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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That’s fair. Good spots are to be guarded from slash and burn fishermen and those who can’t keep a secret. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t want a border war over this post but they are a little thin skinned about us "greenees" (Colorado has green license plates) coming up and fishing their waters. Thin skinned?? Hey, I don’t mind you greenies fishing in my home water, so long as you don’t mind the caltrops. Just kidding, friend. Fish here all you like- I’ll welcome you anytime. But I won’t share my honey holes with you. You’ll have to earn them the same way I did- by working for them. Frank Longtine                           The Second Amendment protects your liberties, 1984 Ford                                 not your hunting rights. 1997 Rokon Trail Breaker 1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet

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I will be up in Bend, Oregon next week and will be trying to fish Hosmer Lake next Friday, May 15.  Any word on if the road will be open?  If so, what is the fishing like there at that time of year?  Any particular patterns that would be more effective than others?  Help would be

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Hosmer might still be snowed in. Try Black leech patterns if you can get in-mid-day or late afternoon best

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I will be up in Bend, Oregon next week and will be trying to fish Hosmer Lake next Friday, May 15.  Any word on if the road will be open?  If so, what is the fishing like there at that time of year?  Any particular patterns that would be more effective than others?  Help would be

Hi Tom, I have only fished it in August, but heard that they had great caddis hatches in June. Early on fish can be pretty hungry and stupid so a black wolly bugger or leech might get ‘em. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I will be up in Bend, Oregon next week and will be trying to fish Hosmer Lake next Friday, May 15.  Any word on if the road will be open?  If so, what is the fishing like there at that time of year?  Any particular patterns that would be more effective than others?  Help would be

Tom Last I heard it’s still snowed in.  A couple of guys tried to hike in with belly boats and didn’t make it. Jim Jones For e-mail reply replace spam with sns

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Hello, I’m pretty new to the newsgroups and to southwest Idaho.  Parents do live in Buhl though. My question for anyone is for maybe any clues they would be will to give on good casting areas around Boise or within an hour or less. I was hoping to kinda get a few of those secrets people let die with themselves and still am crossing my fingers.  I anyone decides to help a poor lost soul like myself you could e-mail me directly to leave it off the group and I would appreciate it tremendously.                                                         Thanks,                                                         Christian Keeley

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I’m pretty new to the newsgroups and to southwest Idaho.  Parents do live in Buhl though. My question for anyone is for maybe any clues they would be will to give on good casting areas around Boise or within an hour or less. I was hoping to kinda get a few of those secrets people let die with themselves and still am crossing my fingers.  I anyone decides to help a poor lost soul like myself you could e-mail me directly to leave it off the group and I would appreciate it tremendously.

I’m not from the Boise area but do get there several times per year. There are lots of places to wet a line including the Boise river, the many small ponds within the city (they are stocked with trout) and one of my favorite places the Wilson Ponds in Nampa.  Your best bet is to check into a fly shop and ask.  They are always happy to direct you to good fishing locations.

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I lived in boise for 2/3 years and caught many dumb fish on the boise, both in town and down river. There is also this little trickle called the S. Fork. and one called…oh shit man, you are in the thick of it! Get thee to a fly shop and snoop. Jezus! Don’t you know where you are! Ugh!!! Best… S. "The World is full of shipping clerks who read the Harvard Classics." –Bukowski, American writer, poet S. Duda Seattle, WA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, The last fly rod I bought was in 1973 when I purchased a Fenwick 4 piece travel rod for use in California mountain streams. Now I live in New Mexico and have access to the San Juan and a few other large trout waters and my 7′ pack rod doesn’t quite cut it. I looked around town for Redington (after following posts in this group) and no-one has ever heard of it. I liked a [very pricey] Orvis 9′  5 wt I found in one shop. The last shop I went to only sold Sage rods.  This guy tells me Orvis isn’t that good of quality any more and Sage is the way to go. I checked out to of the rods and for my taste they are to still. I really think $400.00  plus is too much, but the less expensive rods I looked at were pretty poor for what I considered a lot of money. Any suggestions?

I have a St. Croix 8 foot, 4-5wt rod…it’s a 4-piece travel rod and they also make a 8′6" 5-6wt 4 piece.  I bought mine for $100 and they may be $125 now.  It is a very nice rod for the price (I also have a Sage 590RPL which costs a lot more). I actually prefer the slightly slower action of the St. Croix.  When the situation demands it, the rod is still capable of throwing a lot of line.   A friend of mine really likes the action of the Sage Discovery Series rods (their introductory line of rods).  Good luck. August Kristoferson http://www.eskimo.com/~augustk

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello, The last fly rod I bought was in 1973 when I purchased a Fenwick 4 piece travel rod for use in California mountain streams. Now I live in New Mexico and have access to the San Juan and a few other large trout waters and my 7′ pack rod doesn’t quite cut it. I looked around town for Redington (after following posts in this group) and no-one has ever heard of it. I liked a [very pricey] Orvis 9′  5 wt I found in one shop. The last shop I went to only sold Sage rods.  This guy tells me Orvis isn’t that good of quality any more and Sage is the way to go. I checked out to of the rods and for my taste they are to still. I really think $400.00  plus is too much, but the less expensive rods I looked at were pretty poor for what I considered a lot of money. Any suggestions? Mike

Hi Mike, If the $400 price range is a bit spendy for you check out the Orvis HLS RM series.  Rods are $240 -$250 for 2 peice and are made from the same blanks that 1995’s premium HLS used last year.  With the fancier fittings these rods sold for $350.  You get the same performance with a less fancy reel seat and handle, 2 coats of epoxy on the wraps instead of the 4 coats of low-build polyurethane varnish and a price tag of $100 less.  I would suggest you try the HLS RM "Adams" (8 1/2ft. 4 wt., $240), the HLS RM "Bighorn" (8 1/2ft. 5 wt., $240), and the HLS RM "Colorado" (9ft. 5wt., $250).  4 piece rods are about $50 more.  All of these are medium fast action rods made from a high modulus graphite.  Because of the line speed generated by the newer graphites you can use a 5 wt. where you used to need a 6 wt. and a 4 wt. where you used to need a 5 wt.  These rods are covered by the same 25 yr. "any way you break it guarantee" that Orvis has given since 1988, so you don’t need to worry about breakage even if it’s your fault.  Try them out and see what you think.                                    Hope this helps,                                                Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, The last fly rod I bought was in 1973 when I purchased a Fenwick 4 piece travel rod for use in California mountain streams. Now I live in New Mexico and have access to the San Juan and a few other large trout waters and my 7′ pack rod doesn’t quite cut it. I looked around town for Redington (after following posts in this group) and no-one has ever heard of it. I liked a [very pricey] Orvis 9′  5 wt I found in one shop. The last shop I went to only sold Sage rods.  This guy tells me Orvis isn’t that good of quality any more and Sage is the way to go. I checked out to of the rods and for my taste they are to still. I really think $400.00  plus is too much, but the less expensive rods I looked at were pretty poor for what I considered a lot of money. Any suggestions?

The most popular size fly rod sold in the West is a 9′ #5  2 piece.  If you are traveling on aircraft or back packing you might consider a 3 or 4 piece.  I would try to cast as many rods that you can and choose one that feels good. Many rod companies have unconditional warranties and if you keep this next one for 23 years you will get your moneys worth at any price. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Hello, The last fly rod I bought was in 1973 when I purchased a Fenwick 4 piece travel rod for use in California mountain streams. Now I live in New Mexico and have access to the San Juan and a few other large trout waters and my 7′ pack rod doesn’t quite cut it. I looked around town for Redington (after following posts in this group) and no-one has ever heard of it. I liked a [very pricey] Orvis 9′  5 wt I found in one shop. The last shop I went to only sold Sage rods.  This guy tells me Orvis isn’t that good of quality any more and Sage is the way to go. I checked out to of the rods and for my taste they are to still. I really think $400.00  plus is too much, but the less expensive rods I looked at were pretty poor for what I considered a lot of money. Any suggestions? Mike

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Does anyone know if fishing is permitted on the Prisons property of Spring Creek???                                        Brian

The answer to this question is yes and no.  You cannot fish on the prison property where it is posted. This includes a stretch above and below the area mentioned by another poster.  He is talking about turning onto Shiloh Road at the white church and fishing the Benner Springs hatchery stretch.  There has been quite a bit of controversy over this area in the past few years. Much of the access at Benner Springs has been taken away along with the parking which used to be available.  The Fish commission says it isn’t trying to keep people from fishing there but they have taken away parking, taken to closing the gates earlier, and generally made it very difficult to enjoy. The Yes part to your question about fishing prison land…most of where you can fish between Shiloh Road and the Paradise area IS prison land.  The DEC and prison have agreements.  If you fish anywhere in this stretch, the land surrounding the stream and up the hills, on both sides, is prison land. You’ll notice signs which post for trespass and No Hunting all along here. If you stick to the public access waters you ARE fishing prison land.  Can you fish the other posted areas of prison land…not legally.  It is your choice. For all the fantastic fishing available in the open waters I don’t feel the need to take a chance at hitting the posted waters.                              Scott

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Does anyone know if fishing is permitted on the Prisons property of Spring Creek???                                         Brian —

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Hi Brian,    I’ve fished on prison property near the fish hatchery below the State Trooper barracks.  I’m not sure of the name of the road but I can give you directions.  From State College head towards the Nittany Mall.  Get on Rt. 150 (Benner Pike) headed towards Bellefonte and take a left at the second Mall entrance (at the little white church).  Go down that road until you run into the prison property.  Do not take a left on Trout Road.  You’ll run into a gate and if you read the sign, they close the gate at 9:00PM. You must be out at that time, they’re pretty good about not closing the gate if they see cars parked there.  There are some big fish (16-24") in there.  E-Mail me at the Internet address below the next time you plan on fly-fishing, I try to get out everyday.  See you later.

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license, (snip) What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

        It will probably do the same thing the Federal commercial drivers license did!  I held a class A license since I was 21, but at $13 a year I could afford it even though I was no longer driving "big rigs".  The "Fed" came in and now the class A in Texas is $40!  I went back to a class c!         There is NO WAY I want the Federal Gov’t involved in "our" fishing, and if you take a look at what the NFWS is doing, you won’t either!!!

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize the study of feasability of a national fishing license ( H.R. 406 ih) to read the actual bill go (http://thomas.loc.gov) do a search on the subject fishing.   At first I was upset at the thought of more goverment fees and regulations in order to enjoy my favort pasttime, but after really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

Up until a few years ago we had different licences for different areas in the UK. It’s a lot better now that there is only one license and only slightly more expensive. IMO one of the best things that happened to fishing in the UK. Compuserve:       100520,2042 Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend’s forehead. (Apparently a Chinese proverb)

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: What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.

 in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

Each state would get 1/51 of 18.00 less the siphoned off funds (I would persume) not 1/51 of 1.75  why would the gov give the state 16.25? just because thats what they themselfs charge for a resident license? Most likely what will happen is the Fed gov will take over stocking operations, which will no doubt get mucked up and turn into a SUPERFUND waste.  Even though you say you will pay a little more for a state license in order to get better fishing,  others will not, and will be fishing right along side of you. there will be  no stocking done, the EPA will start screaming about LEAD,  the Attorny General will be screaming about Mercury, in the fish.   of course youll have to buy a saltwater license after that…. Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

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: What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.

 in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

Each state would get 1/51 of 18.00 less the siphoned off funds (I would persume) not 1/51 of 1.75  why would the gov give the state 16.25? just because thats what they themselfs charge for a resident license? Most likely what will happen is the Fed gov will take over stocking operations, which will no doubt get mucked up and turn into a SUPERFUND waste.  Even though you say you will pay a little more for a state license in order to get better fishing,  others will not, and will be fishing right along side of you. there will be  no stocking done, the EPA will start screaming about LEAD,  the Attorny General will be screaming about Mercury, in the fish.   of course youll have to buy a saltwater license after that…. Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

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Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

Is it even legal?  The Constitution gives the federal government power to regulate interstate commerce.  Other powers it reserves for the states.  Is there some sort of precedent for this?  If there is, I’d think they’d want to make a national driver’s license before a national fishing license. | |                                                                       | | | John H. Kim          "Just try telling the IRS you don’t feel like    | | | Keeper of the Fishing FAQ        ftp://tuna.mit.edu/d/pub/fishing/faq |

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Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches. Is it even legal?  The Constitution gives the federal government power to regulate interstate commerce.  Other powers it reserves for the states.  Is there some sort of precedent for this?  If there is, I’d think they’d want to make a national driver’s license before a national fishing license.    John, they did!  It is the federal comercial drivers license (CDL)

and now costs $40 as opposed to the former class a license in Texas, which was $13!  Everything is legal if it’s unopposed!

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize the study of feasability of a national fishing license ( H.R. 406 ih) to read the actual bill go (http://thomas.loc.gov) do a search on the subject fishing.   At first I was upset at the thought of more goverment fees and regulations in order to enjoy my favort pasttime, but after really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

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The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are now generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment programs would disapear.  

What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.  would you buy the federal license for a few more dollars and be able to fish anywhere,  or would you buy the state license?   I agree that there is much room for revenue abuse,  but would you make the purchase? Wally

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are now generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment programs would disapear.  I’m sure that once Washington got ahold of the money it would somehow get diverted to some other use rather than fisheries managment.  Even though it would be nice to be able to fish anywhere with only one license, I think that this is a bad idea. MHO Bryan Stafford

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: The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are : now : generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment : programs would disapear.   : What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.  would you buy the federal : license for a few more dollars and be able to fish anywhere,  or would : you buy the state license?   This overlooks the fact that less populous states with good fishing benefit from the influx of non-resident license dollars. While it might save you some bucks, in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

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       It will probably do the same thing the Federal commercial drivers license did!  I held a class A license since I was 21, but at $13 a year I could afford it even though I was no longer driving "big rigs".  The "Fed" came in and now the class A in Texas is $40!  I went back to a class c!        There is NO WAY I want the Federal Gov’t involved in "our" fishing, and if you take a look at what the NFWS is doing, you won’t either!!!

The way the bill reads ( H.R. 406) is that the Federal license would not replace the state license,  it would be available as an alternive. you could still opt to purchase the state license and fish only within the state,  or you could buy the Federal license and fish in any state.  also you would need to buy any additional spieces stamps that the state you wanted to fish in imposed, if you were going to fish for that spieces or in waters that were stocked with that spieces ( in N.J. you need to buy a trout stamp to fish for trout,   it costs about 8.75 and looks like a postage stamp,  you affix it to your license)

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