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Can you convert a fly rod to a TN handle spinning rod. I thought you could do it by changing the eyes and an adjustment to the handle.. I have a fishing situation that requires th use of a noodle type spinning rod. Thanks
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I am sure you will get very good advise , this NG has 2 excellent rod builders..
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wayno – you can read this one
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Think caddis flies in June, Frank. Green Rock Worm, tan LaFontaine caddis emerger, throw in a few small PTs (they always work) and a few Goddard Caddis, and voila, you’re there. Dave Well, I’ll start tying now if I can find my vise. Now, wasn’t that on top of the truck?
What girls did you "visit" while in Coburn? Sounds like you were in a real hurry to get out of town. — TL, Tim
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I forgot to add: I took a ful Reid (without water). My rock hopping days are surely limited. My feet went out from underneath me like I was on an icy slope. Smashed by back up pretty good (or is that pretty bad?). The same shit I suffered through a few months back. If I bend over, I have trouble getting back up. (No smart-ass remarks either!) d;o)
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I forgot to add: I took a ful Reid (without water). My rock hopping days are surely limited. My feet went out from underneath me like I was on an icy slope. Smashed by back up pretty good (or is that pretty bad?). The same shit I suffered through a few months back. If I bend over, I have trouble getting back up. (No smart-ass remarks either!) d;o)
hey, take care Louie, you’ve got an important fishing date coming up. Hey Dave, if it hurts when you bend, don’t bend. You have to come and see us soon. I’m practicing on my new stove. This is the Jag of all Jags. The Thanksgiving turkey, the meat pies will all be waiting for you. Did I mention the pumpkin pie? Love Suzie XOXOXO
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… The Thanksgiving turkey, …
Canadian Thanksgiving makes WAY more sense than the American version. The second Monday of October is a great time to have a real fall harvest fest. The end of November sucks, and besides it’s too close to Xmas. — Ken Fortenberry- left in disgust at the start of the 4th quarter
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Suzie Homemaker writes: he Thanksgiving turkey, the meat pies will all be waiting for you. Did I mention the pumpkin pie? Love Suzie XOXOXO
You’re too much, Jo. Is it any wonder Petah loves you so. My Jo says hi. See you in a week. Pumpkin pie, eh? Dave
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Suzie Homemaker writes: he Thanksgiving turkey, the meat pies will all be waiting for you. Did I mention the pumpkin pie? Love Suzie XOXOXO You’re too much, Jo. Is it any wonder Petah loves you so. My Jo says hi. See you in a week. Pumpkin pie, eh? Dave
Can’t wait to see you both on the 13th. Love Suzie
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Smashed my back up pretty good (or is that pretty bad?).
Enjoyed your TR but sorry to hear about your bad luck. You reminded me that some years ago, an announcer at a Penn State football game announced that a player who had been hurt, and was coming off the field, was "limping pretty good." I wondered if that was the opposite of "limping pretty bad," or if it meant he was doing it in an accomplished and artistic manner. Hope you get well soon. vince
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Vince Norris writes: You reminded me that some years ago, an announcer at a Penn State football game announced that a player who had been hurt, and was coming off the field, was "limping pretty good." I wondered if that was the opposite of "limping pretty bad," or if it meant he was doing it in an accomplished and artistic manner. Hope you get well soon. vince
Fortunately I wasn’t hurt badly. A friend (in his early 70s) saw it, and thought I had to be hurt bad (good?), so he got on his rather sophisticated radio and called his son fishing downriver at Harbeck Pool. His son started back to help in the "rescue", but when my friend saw me up and about, he called and told the son I was ok. Nice to know someone was watching out for me. Dave
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ok. Nice to know someone was watching out for me. Dave
Hey, I worry about you big guy. With all the luck you’ve had, a wonderful wife, trips to Lakewood left, right and center, that land yacht of yours, I figure your lucks gotta run out sometime. Good report. I can’t wait to get up there next year. Ya gotta give me an idear as to what those flies were and if you tinks dayums would work in June. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply
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Frank Reid writes: Ya gotta give me an idear as to what those flies were and if you tinks dayums would work in June.
Think caddis flies in June, Frank. Green Rock Worm, tan LaFontaine caddis emerger, throw in a few small PTs (they always work) and a few Goddard Caddis, and voila, you’re there. Dave
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Think caddis flies in June, Frank. Green Rock Worm, tan LaFontaine caddis emerger, throw in a few small PTs (they always work) and a few Goddard Caddis, and voila, you’re there. Dave
Well, I’ll start tying now if I can find my vise. Now, wasn’t that on top of the truck? — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply
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The boat was waiting for us when we arrived at South Arm. It is always amusing to see Henry jump from the car, run down to the dock and get aboard Lakewood’s boat. (Lakewood owns the boat, so the apotrophe is correct) After a quick lunch, I headed to the dam. No one in sight. I picked one of the good spots and started with Bruiser’s #20 PT, tied on a scudd hook. Second cast and I had a decent brookie, dressed to the nines in her fall colors. A few casts later, another brookie. It went on like this until I lost the fly. %, I only had one. Fortunately I brought along the fly box that Bruiser gave me at the SJ clave two years ago. It was filled with little size 20 – 24 jewels. I selected something similar, and it was *better*. What an outstanding afternoon. The catch of brookies to salmon was about 5 to 1. I can remember when it was 10 to 1 salmon to brookies. And it wasn’t that long ago. C & R works (sorry Timbo) On Monday morning I went to Pond in the River – not much happening with the standard stuff. However, an old stand-by, the Jail Bird tied on a size 20 dry fly hook brought two very nice brook trout from the wing dam pool. That fly has never failed me! Very simple tie, too. After a sumptuous lunch, I was a bit tired, so I napped until mid-afternoon and then hit the dam. As before, Bruiser’s tiny SJ flies did their magic. I dredged Zimbo’s Run and landed several nice (+14 inch) brookies, as well as some salmon about the same size. The fish looked to be in remarkable condition, especially the brookies. Only a couple of salmon that I caught (the entire week) had sores on their jaws from being hooked. There was a team of biologists surveying the river for the power company. I had a conversation with them at dinner and asked about the mortality of C&R. Although they didn’t give me a percentage, their feelings were that the brookies are very strong and their mortality is very, very low, whereas the salmon, dumber and not as strong, still have a low mortality. With the number of fish I caught that looked healthy, I’d say they were spot on in their estimation. Tuesday was a repeat of Monday, with the exception of a 19 inch brookie taken on one of Bruisers #20 nymphs. I also worked some rising salmon. There was a hatch on, and I cast a tiny little black fly. In general, they were small fish – in the 8 to 12 inch range, and no brookies. So, I switched back to the little nymphs and continued to have luck at any spot at the dam. Again, the brookies were ferocious with Bruiser’s flies. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday were the same, except Friday it rained harder than it did at Henry’s Fork (if that is possible). We got about 4 inches of water in less than 24 hours. Fishing remained fairly good, however, and I finally got a chance to wear my SST jacket. Kept me dry and warm. Sleeping in one of Lakewood’s cabins is always a treat, but when it is cold and raining, it is extra sweet. The season ends on Tuesday. I’ve been home three hours and I’m ready to go back. It is gonna be a long winter……. Dave
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Why the bimini twist?
Why the bimini twist?
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Why the bimini twist?
…cuz the foxtrot looks dorky? -wf
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If you aren’t worried about records, forget the bimini and fish a good tapered leader. The bimini is a way to fish for big fish, like tarpon with a light tippit. If you are willing to fish a little heavier leader forget the bimini.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve only fished in the salt a few times but finally broke down and bought Lefty Kreh’s book on the subject. My question is what use is the Bimini Twist? I understand that if you are trying for a world record then you need great 100 per cent strength knots to tie in your 1 foot of "tippet class". I’m not really interested in that and I suspect the vast majority of salt water fisherman arent either…why not just tie your bite tippet on with a surgeons knot or something? Sorry for this off topic question……now back to the Gink Wars. jorge — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Good choice in books … My S/W Flyfishing Bible, I call it. As I understand it ( and have somewhat tested) the Bimini is the strongest knot to use "if tied properly! I personally am a strong proponent of the "spider hitch" It is easier, smaller, and faster to tie, and I now can tee it in a few seconds…even in the dark. I almost always use it to loop on tippet to leader on all sizes I use (5x to 20#) even in freshwater. It supposedly is just as strong as a bimini except for shock load. Since most of the time the rod / line absorbs the shocks it works great for me. I have even done some testing and it usually takes a better bimini than I can tie to exceed the breaking strength of one of my spiders. I have also performed this test with a couple of professional S/W guides biminis (in up to 20# test) and usually their bimini fails first. (or of course the unknotted line in the middle. If you want to give it a try I think the knot is listed in Lefty’s book. Usually they show this knot being tied using a finger or thumb as the "guide" to wrap around. I have had better luck using a small object like a toothpick or hemostats. After some practice it can easily be tied with no tools by looping the line "between" the thumb and forefinger with no tools. Like the bimini this knot’s real purpose it to double the line and use the loop lines to tie another knot to something… or to make a doubled loop. I use a lot of loops and normally just make the spiders loop, combine the lines, and tie a surgeons loop close to the spider. This can result in a small loop of double line. (or as large as you need) For your shock leader or bite tippet this give you a doubled line of class tippet to tie the knot with. The knot tied with the doubled line is almost always stronger than the spider, bimini, or the single class tippet. I find the issue of attaching wire, 40# or 100# mono to any doubled 12-16 lb connection more prone to failure and problems than the class termination knot. So far I Never lost a fish due to a spider breaking. (Although I have lost lots of fish due to the line breaking between the knots (where it’s supposed to) just poor dumb bad luck…. I have lost a number of fish due to bimini knot failure. If you go with the bimini in the 20# & under size I highly recommend using pliobond or something on the final hitches. I have seen way too many bimini’s start coming apart while fishing if they are not glued. I even saw this once on a friends backing to flyline connection where he had used a bimini. The really sad part is that a number of us were taught to tie our best binini’s by Stu Apte … So I guess we can’t blame the teacher! I recall reading somewhere that it only took a few years to "perfect" a bimini and ony a couple more to perfect it on a rocking boat out in the middle of the ocean. Maybe they were right. The real test is to always break a lot of line and knots until you are confident they as strong as the line. (or at least as strong a YOU can tie them) I make leaders from clear Ande and use Ande tournament class line. This stuff comes in 1/4 lb spools, so I have a lot to waste. I just tie up the knots on each end to end up about 3′ outside the loops and then use a couple of chunks of cut off broom handles to hold on to and break the knots. I stand on the stick with the loop over it on one end and pull with my hands at the other until it breaks. Just make sure you have safety glasses on and don’t touch the line itself. 16# and up is quite violent when it breaks and can give you a nasty cut if it gets near you hands. (ah the voice of experience) This isn’t real scientific but really help you determine the best knots that you can tie. Good luck in the salt!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve only fished in the salt a few times but finally broke down and bought Lefty Kreh’s book on the subject. My question is what use is the Bimini Twist? I understand that if you are trying for a world record then you need great 100 per cent strength knots to tie in your 1 foot of "tippet class". I’m not really interested in that and I suspect the vast majority of salt water fisherman arent either…why not just tie your bite tippet on with a surgeons knot or something? Sorry for this off topic question……now back to the Gink Wars. jorge — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Thanks so much for the advice over the bimini twist. (George and RJ). I will indeed practice a bit with the spider hitch and see if I can master that. I was fishing in the backcountry on my last trip to Latin America for snook and baby tarpon…..the fish were completely non leader tippet shy so I thought well in order not to lose’em in the mangroves and make sure I can horse’em, I’ll tie like 20 pound test on for a tippet. I was having a ball catching 10 pound baby tarpon and small snook (and replacing the tippet every 3 or 4 fish cause the tarpon were sawing it up pretty good). However I hooked a big snook….the boat driver said "Its a big snook, Jorge….don’t let him get in the mangrove"…..the rod was an 8 weight Scott…..it was bent double and then broke a foot above the handle. What did I do wrong there? Is an 8 weight too lite for the backcountry? Should I only use 10 pound tippets and depend on breaking off rather than stressing the rod too much? It was a big snook….the boat was being pulled sideways into the mangrove and I’ll did was just hold on (in panic!). I appreciate the help you guys are giving to this beginner in the salt. Jorge — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Most likely you dinged the rod at some time and it was weak there. If it is a top of the line rod you can probably get it replaced. You can also have a problem if you grab the rod above the handle cause you can change where the rod is stressed.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks so much for the advice over the bimini twist. (George and RJ). I will indeed practice a bit with the spider hitch and see if I can master that. I was fishing in the backcountry on my last trip to Latin America for snook and baby tarpon…..the fish were completely non leader tippet shy so I thought well in order not to lose’em in the mangroves and make sure I can horse’em, I’ll tie like 20 pound test on for a tippet. I was having a ball catching 10 pound baby tarpon and small snook (and replacing the tippet every 3 or 4 fish cause the tarpon were sawing it up pretty good). However I hooked a big snook….the boat driver said "Its a big snook, Jorge….don’t let him get in the mangrove"…..the rod was an 8 weight Scott…..it was bent double and then broke a foot above the handle. What did I do wrong there? Is an 8 weight too lite for the backcountry? Should I only use 10 pound tippets and depend on breaking off rather than stressing the rod too much? It was a big snook….the boat was being pulled sideways into the mangrove and I’ll did was just hold on (in panic!). I appreciate the help you guys are giving to this beginner in the salt. Jorge — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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Sounds like you were using the same guide I used…. Except when he tried to tell my buddy repeatedly in excited broken English (the fish) GO IN MANGROVE! GO IN MANGROVE! My buddy stepped out of the boat and sank to his shoulders in the silt….. But that’s a whole different story. We were in Cancun earlier this year and used 8 & 9 wt rods on the baby (4′ ) tarpon we found there & didn’t have any rod strength problems. I was using Sage Rplx’s and my buddy was using the Orvis and Fenwick HMG’s… The tarpon action was hot and we ended up using straight 40# leaders when the all the premade tippets ran out….and still managed to break off a fair number of fish! (the folks at Sage are probably cringing if they read this! Sorry to have to tell you but your story sounds like operator error. Strong saltwater fish need to fought with the butt of the rod not the tip. You are risking it if you bend the rod beyond 90
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Walt's Charm
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Yep, I know, probably two words you don’t expect to see in the same sentence, but check this out: Last week, Walt Winter ended a piece of correspondence by wishing me tight lines and screaming reels. I left the next day for three days on the Miramichi to fish for Atlantic Salmon. Hooked and landed 4 the first day, biggest one was 15 lbs. Next day, hooked 4 and landed 1. River was up and dirty from snowmelt the next day, so I didn’t fish. That pretty much beats any whole salmon SEASON I’ve ever enjoyed, never mind a single weekend. Talk about your tight lines and screaming reels: just about toasted my old Beaudex. I attribute this success 100% to Walt, so if you ever get email from him that ends with ‘tight lines and screaming reels’, drop everything and get the hell to the river. Probably wouldn’t hurt to carry a paper copy of the email, either, as extra insurance. thanks walt brent
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yep, I know, probably two words you don’t expect to see in the same sentence, but check this out: Last week, Walt Winter ended a piece of correspondence by wishing me tight lines and screaming reels. I left the next day for three days on the Miramichi to fish for Atlantic Salmon. Hooked and landed 4 the first day, biggest one was 15 lbs. Next day, hooked 4 and landed 1. River was up and dirty from snowmelt the next day, so I didn’t fish. That pretty much beats any whole salmon SEASON I’ve ever enjoyed, never mind a single weekend. Talk about your tight lines and screaming reels: just about toasted my old Beaudex. I attribute this success 100% to Walt, so if you ever get email from him that ends with ‘tight lines and screaming reels’, drop everything and get the hell to the river. Probably wouldn’t hurt to carry a paper copy of the email, either, as extra insurance. thanks walt brent
anytime my friend. dang wayno, these distilled mountain phenacite brews work! waldo the soothsayer? — waldo’s palmistry and flyshop P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 ezflyfish.com for your flyfishing gear: http://www.ezflyfish.com
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waldo the soothsayer?
Careful there, Walt. Next think you know you’ll start playing with snakes, and…well, just remember what happened to Cassandra… — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!
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waldo the soothsayer? Careful there, Walt. Next think you know you’ll start playing with snakes, and…well, just remember what happened to Cassandra… — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!
bob, in watauga county, nc, playing with snakes is a prerequisite to graduation from high school. don’t you fret about ol waldo and them timber rattlers. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Fly fishing in SW Florida
Fly fishing in SW Florida
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This summer I’m interested in fishing the flats in SW Florida (Ft Meyers area and south in to the Everglades). Does anyone have recommendations for good guides? Thanks
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If they are booked up they will find you a guide in the area. — <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This summer I’m interested in fishing the flats in SW Florida (Ft Meyers area and south in to the Everglades). Does anyone have recommendations for good guides? Thanks
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Check with Capt. Andrew Bostick 941-394-3010 Tell him Capt. Tommy Robinson sent you http://www.floridaredfish.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This summer I’m interested in fishing the flats in SW Florida (Ft Meyers area and south in to the Everglades). Does anyone have recommendations for good guides? Thanks
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Try Capt. Chris Asaro. He has a site at <http://www.sightfish.net/ . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This summer I’m interested in fishing the flats in SW Florida (Ft Meyers area and south in to the Everglades). Does anyone have recommendations for good guides? Thanks
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » San Diego-surf
San Diego-surf
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anyone have experience ff the surf in San diego this time of year? I would greatly appreciate any comments–and if you live here perhaps we could get together–I am a fresh water ffman recently transported. Thanks Ron
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I live in orange county and work in San Diego. I have not had much luck surf fly fishing in any so cal waters. Usually it is a matter of access. Most of the good stretches of beach are hard, if not impossible to get to. Any spots where you do have access to are WAY overcrowded by bait fisherman, A large percent looking for a family dinner. I have had great luck renting a skiff from seaforth. You can fish in mission bay, or Coronado island. Get out there with deceivers, let’em sink, then strip, strip, strip, like a mad man. Mackerel, rock fish, I even caught a baby barracuda once
Seaforth also has a big boat to rent with GPS and all the goodies, so you can really get out there and hit the kelp beds. It is pricey though. Also there is a great salt fly fishing store in SD. If anyone knows, these guys do… San Diego Fly Shop. 619-283-3445. They have flys, lines, and all the stuff you need. Call them, they know the area. Note : you need a special sticker on your ca fishing license to do the salt thing. Good luck, Marc visit the Fly Fishing Zone at http://www.bookmarkzone.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – anyone have experience ff the surf in San diego this time of year? I would greatly appreciate any comments–and if you live here perhaps we could get together–I am a fresh water ffman recently transported. Thanks Ron
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » My first waders should be…?
My first waders should be…?
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It all depends on your situation. I would recommend neoprenes. I just feel like they are more durable and overall more functional. I have a pair of Orvis Cleawater Stockingfoots. I like them because they convert to hippers when I’m fishing shallow streams and they keep me pretty warm in the winter with an extra pair of socks and some long underwear. I also have a pair or Simms GoreTex which I use on those hot Georgia summer days (90+). But even on the hot days I can get by with the neoprenes (if I don’t have to hike in very far to the river). If you do a lot of hiking around think about stockingfoot models. To me bootfoots are fine in the water but aren’t great for hiking to. Hope this helps. Kevin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been fly-fishing for 2 months now. I’m blessed by living in the Sierra with quick and easy access to many streams and rivers and lakes (eg Stanislaus, Mokelumne). I’ve been clomping around in my felt-soled boots and realize that waders are on the horizon. I’ve seen loose-fitting waders and tight ones (neoprene?). The pros in the magazines seem to wear the loose ones. I’m open to suggestions. Regards, Dick Weinkle PS: Do you lose more flies in the trees (like I do) than in the water? — I am who I’ve learned to be. I am who I am. I am Nothing.
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I’ve been fly-fishing for 2 months now. I’m blessed by living in the Sierra with quick and easy access to many streams and rivers and lakes (eg Stanislaus, Mokelumne). I’ve been clomping around in my felt-soled boots and realize that waders are on the horizon. I’ve seen loose-fitting waders and tight ones (neoprene?). The pros in the magazines seem to wear the loose ones. I’m open to suggestions. Regards, Dick Weinkle PS: Do you lose more flies in the trees (like I do) than in the water? — I am who I’ve learned to be. I am who I am. I am Nothing.
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I’ve been fly-fishing for 2 months now. I’m blessed by living in the Sierra with quick and easy access to many streams and rivers and lakes (eg Stanislaus, Mokelumne). I’ve been clomping around in my felt-soled boots and realize that waders are on the horizon. I’ve seen loose-fitting waders and tight ones (neoprene?). The pros in the magazines seem to wear the loose ones. I’m open to suggestions.
I like the Orvis Clearwater breathables, most comfortable I have ever worn fishing. Great for the hiking or ‘clambering’ you might have to do en route as well. — Charlie…
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Not to mention the 4 year guarantee. Chris Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been fly-fishing for 2 months now. I’m blessed by living in the Sierra with quick and easy access to many streams and rivers and lakes (eg Stanislaus, Mokelumne). I’ve been clomping around in my felt-soled boots and realize that waders are on the horizon. I’ve seen loose-fitting waders and tight ones (neoprene?). The pros in the magazines seem to wear the loose ones. I’m open to suggestions. I like the Orvis Clearwater breathables, most comfortable I have ever worn fishing. Great for the hiking or ‘clambering’ you might have to do en route as well. — Charlie…
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Dick, I fish the same rivers you do and all I ever use is a pair of light weight stocking foot hippers with wading shoes. When hiking, fold them up and put them in your fishing vest. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been fly-fishing for 2 months now. I’m blessed by living in the Sierra with quick and easy access to many streams and rivers and lakes (eg Stanislaus, Mokelumne). I’ve been clomping around in my felt-soled boots and realize that waders are on the horizon. I’ve seen loose-fitting waders and tight ones (neoprene?). The pros in the magazines seem to wear the loose ones. I’m open to suggestions. Regards, Dick Weinkle PS: Do you lose more flies in the trees (like I do) than in the water? — I am who I’ve learned to be. I am who I am. I am Nothing.
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Where's the best lodge to fish 4 BIG Permit & Bonefish
Where's the best lodge to fish 4 BIG Permit & Bonefish
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Boca Paila and Casa Blanca have great permit, some Tarpon and lotsa bones. The bones are on the smallish side but you should get more chances a permit than in the Bahamas or Florida. I’ve fished Boca Paila twice. Good folks. Casa Blanca is just to the South of Boca Paila. Best day — 13 bones before lunch. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
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A great, and less expensive alternative to fishing at Asencion Bay is the CUZAN GUEST HOUSE at $1450 per week, double occupancy. Contact me for more info. Gene Kelly
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writes: Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit &
Bonefish? If you want really big permit, the biggest are found in Ascension Bay on the Yucatan Penninsula of Mexico (Carribean side). There is currently a world record pending from the area. I fished there in June and stayed at the Ascension Bay Bonefish Club (great place for small parties – no more than a max of 6). Joe Sugura is an excellent host. Did a lot of looking and almost no casting to permit (one cast 5 feet behind a permit as he left the area). One of the guys that week took 5 permit the biggest being around 26 lbs. On the last day my fishing partner got off about a dozen casts to two permit that were over 30 lbs ( if only I’d been on the other side of the boat!). Kaufmann’s book is way off in its description of permit fishing in the area. They have a great picture in the lodge of a triple on Permit (this is real unusual). Bonefish are plentiful there, but not nearly so big as the singles and doubles you’ll find in florida. They make up for it by traveling in schools. Some beautiful flats fishing. Food was great by the way. You can contact them through Fishing International (1-800-950-4242). Good Fishing, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again. So what if they eat other fish? If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).
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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong 1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer Atkid – 48 days – down 20
I think the biggest permit are caught in southern Florida. They catch pretty nice ones in Ascension Bay, Yucatan, Mexico. I think the biggest average size for bones is in southern Florida and the Bahamas. They are both very difficult on a fly and I would recommend working your way up the ladder by fishing for more plentiful, smaller fish that are much easier to catch. Personally, that is what I have been doing for the past fifteen years. Call us and we can tell you about many flats destinations. 800/4000FLY William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
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Fishing in Telluride?
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My girlfriend (a novice fisherperson) will be in Telluride mid-June for the Bluegrass Festival and she wants to do some fishing in the area. Is there a fly store in the town worth sending her to where they can help with her fly selection and/or good places to fish. Non-serious replies can be directed to alt.rec.erotica. Thanks in advance, EMM — Edwin M. Maynard Department of Bioengineering phone: (801) 581-3817 Moran Laboratories fax: (801) 585-5361 506 Biopolymer Research Building Salt Lake City, Utah 84112 Play hard, play fair, but most importantly just play.
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I do not recall a fly shop in town. However, I would call Scott Fly Rods, who are now located in that town and ask them for either guides or info. They may have a B&B destination place in the area. I thought I recalled seeing a flyer for that. Hope this helps –jim * *
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edwin- she can go to Olympic Sports (which in 91-92 timeframe sold Orvis equip.). typically at this time of year the run off is still pretty high in the San Miguel River (which runs through town and down valley). The river also experiences a huge impact thbluegrass weekend due to a 1000% increase in the population fo telluride during the festival. the fishing in the san miguel is a lot of fun, and olympic sports should be able to give her a good fly selection (and a guide if necessary). she could also check out alta, trout, or priest lakes which are in the area. -ted
: My girlfriend (a novice fisherperson) will be in Telluride mid-June for : the Bluegrass Festival and she wants to do some fishing in the area. Is : there a fly store in the town worth sending her to where they can help : with her fly selection and/or good places to fish. Non-serious replies : can be directed to alt.rec.erotica. : Thanks in advance, : EMM : — : Edwin M. Maynard Department of Bioengineering : phone: (801) 581-3817 Moran Laboratories : fax: (801) 585-5361 506 Biopolymer Research Building : Salt Lake City, Utah 84112 : Play hard, play fair, but most importantly just play.
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Humorous stories
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Here’s one for you: . . . I asked where he put his pole. He said: "I dropped it in the lake" . . .
What I’ve done with my 5yo. girl is to tie a string on the pole with a loop in it, have her put her hand through the loop and make sure the loop is snug on her wrist. This allow the pole to be still attached even if dropped. Rey
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: Well, it’s more wierd than humorous, and I didn’t think it was very funny : at the time, which was yesterday afternoon. If my typing is lousy it’s : because I’ve got a big bandage on my left index finger. You’ll soon see why. : : : The hook was imbedded good, down to the bone. There was no pushing it : through, and anyway, I didn’t have any pliers to bend down or cut off the : barb. So there I sat, shoeless, blood running down my hand, a 3" Rapala : lure dangling from my hand, half a mile from my car. I managed somehow to : get the hook off the plit ring. Then I put on my shoes (not so easy) got : my stuff together, walked to the car, and drove to a local medical : facility where the nurse practicioner managed to yank that hook from my : hand (ouch!). : : Meanwhile she told me a story that made me feel lucky. Just after she had : started practicing whe got a call telling her that a young girl was on her : way with a fish in her foot. Apparently she had stepped on a small fish : and the bony fins had stuck well up into the ball of her foot and acted : like a barbed hook. Her father had tried holding down the fish his foot : and pulling on her leg with his hands, but it wouldn’t budge. Then he : tried putting her foot in the water so the fish could swim free, but it : couldn’t. The fish apparently was still alive and flopping around when : they arrived at the clinic. They had to slice open the little girls foot : to remove the fish. : : I left that clinic counting my blessings. : : Jim : : : Worse thing I ever saw like this was at my vets. A man came in literally : dragging a big black lab. I couldn’t understand why he was treating the : dog like that until I saw the big rapala with one hook firmly imbedded in : the poor dog’s nose and the other hook imbedded in the man’s arm. The : vet sedated the dog and removed both hooks. I still shiver when I think : about that. I’m not so sure you should have posted that as Humorous Stories. I have an inch long scar on the palm of my left hand from much the same sort of story. I got a 20+ lb. ling cod in the boat. He was hooked on a diamond jig with a 6/0 treble hook. He was twisted up in the net, and as I tried to get him out, he thrashed around hard, driving one of the exposed hooks through the palm of my hand. I had a fishing buddy with me, and he knelt on the head of the fish until I could work the lure free with the needle nosed pliers. I had no cutters, and the hook was held on with a soldered ring, so I couldn’t free it from the lure. We had to push the hook back through and cut the palm through to the hooh shank to free me of the lure. All this while bouncing around in six foot seas. Needless to say, the pain and bleeding were considerable. The wound later took six stitches to close. It was a painful leason. I use a gaff now on big fish. I use a wood bat to stop them from thrashing around. I keep a pair of heavy duty diagonal cutters on my boat. And several Tylonal & codine in the first aid kit.
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Well, it’s more wierd than humorous, and I didn’t think it was very funny at the time, which was yesterday afternoon. If my typing is lousy it’s because I’ve got a big bandage on my left index finger. You’ll soon see why. Wednesday evening I stopped in to a local sporting goods store and found that they were selling out they’re fishing gear–everything was half-off. I picked up 5 Original Rapala’s, a cheap Browning fly rod and a nice baitcasting combo including a Diawa EL 2 reel and a Browning graphite rod, all for $92 including tax (oh yeah, I also got 5 Hopkins spoons in various sizes). So all day yesterday I was aching to try some of this stuff out. I finished everything I had to at work and headed down to a spot at a nearby lake just to cast a few times and get a feel for my new combo. I hooked up one of the Rapala’s (#11 original floater) and cast it a few times, reeling in quckly and casting again, trying to find a good setting on the magnetic anti-backlash mexhanism. I was reeling in fast enough that the lure was diving down a foot or two, and once it got stuck on a tree limb I couldn’t see through the murky water. So I took off my shoes and waded out to recover the lure. I got it, left my shoes off and cast again a few times–still just casting and reeling in, just to get some casting practice. Then I felt the lure get hung up again, and I started to walk out to retrieve it when the tree limb started to move. I set the hook and a tidal wave erupted from the water. I fought that fish for every bit of ten minutes and finally landed a big carp. It was every bit of 20 pounds, probably quite a bit more. With some effort I dragged it up on shore, a good bodies length from the water (which is a long way), put down the reel and started to stagger up the rocky shoreline, shoeless, to get pliers out of my tackle box (initial attempts at removing the treble hook had failed. He was lip-hooked, but those were serious lips. Two of the barbs were in his lip, and the third was trwisted into a cross). I got the tackle box, walked back to where the fish was. When he saw me he made two big lunges and was in the water, still hooked. I barely managed to snag the rod. I fought him again (I’d've let him go, but I wasn’t gonna let him have my new Rapala) for about 5 minutes, landed him again, opened my tackle box and found that my pliers were missing. I’d apparently left them out when I cleaned my tackle box the last time. So I got out a rag, held the fish firmly with one hand and worked on the hook with the other. I wasn’t having much luck, so I let go of the fish and started working with both hands. After about a minute the fish gave a massive flip, imbedded another hook in my left index finger, and used that leverage to do in half a second what I’d been unable to do in the previous 15 minutes–get the hook out of his lip. In the meantime he had straightened out the hook in my finger. The fish gave a lunge and was gone. He’d gotten me back. The hook was imbedded good, down to the bone. There was no pushing it through, and anyway, I didn’t have any pliers to bend down or cut off the barb. So there I sat, shoeless, blood running down my hand, a 3" Rapala lure dangling from my hand, half a mile from my car. I managed somehow to get the hook off the plit ring. Then I put on my shoes (not so easy) got my stuff together, walked to the car, and drove to a local medical facility where the nurse practicioner managed to yank that hook from my hand (ouch!). Meanwhile she told me a story that made me feel lucky. Just after she had started practicing whe got a call telling her that a young girl was on her way with a fish in her foot. Apparently she had stepped on a small fish and the bony fins had stuck well up into the ball of her foot and acted like a barbed hook. Her father had tried holding down the fish his foot and pulling on her leg with his hands, but it wouldn’t budge. Then he tried putting her foot in the water so the fish could swim free, but it couldn’t. The fish apparently was still alive and flopping around when they arrived at the clinic. They had to slice open the little girls foot to remove the fish. I left that clinic counting my blessings. Jim By the way: my Audobon Field Guide says that the classification of fish that included carp and minnows (I can’t remember what it’s called) is charactized by "the absence of teeth in the jaw". This fish definitely had some rather nasty looking teeth. Skinny, about an eighth inch long. But I’d say it had to be a carp, since it was huge and had those characteristic barbels on its jaw. What gives?
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: What I’ve done with my 5yo. girl is to tie a string on the pole : with a loop in it, have her put her hand through the loop and make : sure the loop is snug on her wrist. This allow the pole to be : still attached even if dropped. : Rey All of this talk reminded me of one of my earliest memories. We were living in Florida, which means I was no older than 4. We were fishing on my father’s boat, and I was using a zebco or something, and I don’t know what we were after, but we were offshore. I was in the front of the boat, and I had a strike. Unfortunately, the drag was set real tight. The fish dove down, and I started screaming for my father. I held onto that rod for as long as I could, but the fish would definitely have won the tug-o-war. I let the rod go just as my father made it up- he almost caught it. I was so sad about it, and it must have made an impression if I remembered it all these years. Moral of the story: Just hope your 5 year old girl doesn’t tie into a 10 pound catfish or something. Or make sure the drag is set right. -Jeff
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, it’s more wierd than humorous, and I didn’t think it was very funny at the time, which was yesterday afternoon. If my typing is lousy it’s because I’ve got a big bandage on my left index finger. You’ll soon see why. The hook was imbedded good, down to the bone. There was no pushing it through, and anyway, I didn’t have any pliers to bend down or cut off the barb. So there I sat, shoeless, blood running down my hand, a 3" Rapala lure dangling from my hand, half a mile from my car. I managed somehow to get the hook off the plit ring. Then I put on my shoes (not so easy) got my stuff together, walked to the car, and drove to a local medical facility where the nurse practicioner managed to yank that hook from my hand (ouch!). Meanwhile she told me a story that made me feel lucky. Just after she had started practicing whe got a call telling her that a young girl was on her way with a fish in her foot. Apparently she had stepped on a small fish and the bony fins had stuck well up into the ball of her foot and acted like a barbed hook. Her father had tried holding down the fish his foot and pulling on her leg with his hands, but it wouldn’t budge. Then he tried putting her foot in the water so the fish could swim free, but it couldn’t. The fish apparently was still alive and flopping around when they arrived at the clinic. They had to slice open the little girls foot to remove the fish. I left that clinic counting my blessings. Jim
Worse thing I ever saw like this was at my vets. A man came in literally dragging a big black lab. I couldn’t understand why he was treating the dog like that until I saw the big rapala with one hook firmly imbedded in the poor dog’s nose and the other hook imbedded in the man’s arm. The vet sedated the dog and removed both hooks. I still shiver when I think about that.
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing RE: Humorous fishing stories. Here’s one for you: This happened about three years ago-my little boy who was 4 at the time was turning into quite the "fishing fool". Life revolved around fishing, and thankfully, still does. Anyway, we were camping at a secluded lake here in western Montana, and decided to go fishing one evening after dark in the canoe. We set up a couple of poles with worms and a small marshmallow for floatation and a slip sinker. We went out in the bay about 50-60 yds from the 3-4 campsites available-which were all full. It wasn’t long before the silence and serenity was broken several times by "I got one!!!". I’d slide forward in the canoe to help Chris check his line, only to find nothing there. We’d then go through the procedure of reeling in, checking bait (which was still there), and lowering it back down. This probably continued for about 20-25 minutes, and I was getting a little tempermental about the whole program, and was ready to head back in. Meanwhile, everyone on shore could hear what was going on, and I’d hear laughter as he hollared, followed by my explanations of how to tell whether a fish is really biting (patience level was growing thin). As I was ready to start paddling back to shore, once again he hollared "I got one". "Sure", I said. "Just reel in, and we’ll try again in the morning". "No, I REALLY have one this time". (Laughter from shore). "Christopher, you keep saying that, and we reel in, and your worm is still on there", I said not so patiently. About that time, I could see the outline of his Zebco rod and reel silhouetted in the campfires from shore. Sure enough, it was doubled over and jerking frantically. "Oh, sh__, you’ve got a fish on!", I exclaimed, as I clamored forward to help him steady his pole. After a five minute fight, Chris reeled in a 5 lb. bull trout. As the cheers subsided from shore, and I paddled in, Chris turned to me and said "See, dad, when I say I got a fish on, I MEAN I got a fish on. You should listen to me". Laughter erupted from the camps. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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Here’s one for you: I took my 8 and 5 year olds out perch fishing last summer. Well you know what kind of fishing that is for me, but I don’t mind, its getting out with the boys. I was in the middle of a couple of hours of taking off fish and baiting hooks, and was working with my 8 year old for a minute. When I finished I looked back around at Paul my 5 year old and noticed he was just sitting there quietly. All you people with kids know what a quiet kid means…… I asked him what was the matter and he said: "nothin" I then noticed he wasn’t holding his snoopy pole any more and asked why he wasn’t fishing. he said: "don’t want to anymore" I asked where he put his pole. He said: "I dropped it in the lake" His face went heavy and I asked why didn’t he tell me and he replied: "didn’t want to get in trouble." I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry. Felt sorry for him and explained how fishermen ocassionally loose things, Not to worry and I rigged him up another rod, and back to fishing he went. we tried to fish out his pole, but the current had taken it away. another day, another hard lesson in the game of life for a 5 year old!
Bob
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