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Hmm…..Do you need a new best friend, Mr. Cooke? /daytripper ("Have Rod, Will Travel"

hey Trip we got a chalk stream in Maine here, I’ve never been up but for you old buddy, I’d make the trip. Flyfish

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Hmm…..Do you need a new best friend, Mr. Cooke? /daytripper ("Have Rod, Will Travel" hey Trip we got a chalk stream in Maine here, I’ve never been up but for you old buddy, I’d make the trip. Flyfish

Just make sure that there is no climb involved, especially no climb with speed bumps liberally placed along the trail! Op

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This is not the case where I fish, and obviously not the case for wild fish in loughs, where you fish. No – usually chalkstreams – Itchen, Test, Wylie and Avon. Not easy water.

My error. I would have thought the chalkstream fish were fairly "educated" as well. ( I have fished the Costa Beck a few times), but I didn

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The topic line  speaks for itself. Drew

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

Don’t you work for a living? Joel Axelrad **DFD**

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You have a hard time moving from one topic to the next, don’t you?

You started a new topic?  Is it just me, or does this feel like "Groundhog Day" to anyone else?

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Don’t you work for a living?

He’s a Usenet Tetherball.  This is what he does. Sandy (your turn to whack him ’round the other direction)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Don’t you work for a living? He’s a Usenet Tetherball.  This is what he does. Sandy (your turn to whack him ’round the other direction)

Well……. I know this is probably revolutionary, and will result in much abuse and denigration from the dyed in the wool conservatives in our midst, but  could we perhaps simply cut the elastic? After much  abuse, some quite perverse and orgiastic, some folks decided, to cap the blokes elastic, "Free speech, free speech", cried some aghast, "you must sit still and be abused, you wild phantast, How dare you try to change things, with your calls", in the meantime the idiot was still searching for his balls. Loud twangs emitted from the aggravated multitude, neuticles were substituted, and it was then construed, when a nasty bugger capitulates, and then confesses, no one has the right, to stop him wearing dresses. TL MC

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The topic line  speaks for itself.

I think it was supposed to be, "I can’t believe I’ve learned much here." — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

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writing skills.

See ya REAL soon then! Wolfgang

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

Found out there are more keys than the K, I , A and S? Herman

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Do your homework, Herman. — Citizen Fisherman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Found out there are more keys than the K, I , A and S? Herman

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. …

You always hate the ones you love. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills.

Alternatively, just get a new ISP and sign on as Felicity_the_Flyfisherwoman. Much fun.

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You have a hard time moving from one topic to the next, don’t you? — Citizen Fisherman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alternatively, just get a new ISP and sign on as Felicity_the_Flyfisherwoman. Much fun.

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Yesterday I got news from a friend that Sydney Harbour was really firing, with big schools of bonito and yellowtail kingfish feeding on top nearly all morning – he and his wife got several good bonnies on fly and lost a kingie, fly line and all before leaving, sick of catching ‘em. I got my gear out before bed, putting a Teeny ‘head on my 11 wt and an intermediate on the 8. The sky was clearing after intermittent drizzle since Christmas Eve. I woke up at 5am this morning to the sound of pouring rain. It’s been going all day (it’s nearly 1 pm now). The wind is up around 15kts, a southerly, which ruins my chances in my 4.2m runabout. I’ve downloaded all the Win’98 Y2K patches I can, I’ve upgraded my antivirus data files, I’ve eaten most of the leftovers in the fridge, but there are a I’M PISSED OFF I WANT TO GO FISHING JK

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I know how you feel John, s’been hissing down here for 3 days or so … still we need it.  Having decided to take the plunge (finally!) into the salt  I’ve been tying a box full of saltwater flies in anticiaption and what happens? … still we need it. good luck when the weather breaks. Steve

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I wish we had some of that rain! Forrest http://www.FlyFishingREVIEW.com FlyFishingREVIEW.com Before you buy.

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I’ve got a lot of empty bottles here I could fill for you.

John : If you want, you could send a bunch of bottles of rain to Dallas. Nearby Lake Lewisville is still 13.3 feet low and weather liers offer no help. The weather here was 73 degrees this afternoon with blue skies and the wind was less than 20 m.p.h.  If this keeps up all the catfish will die of sunburn. There Waldo and Jeff are fishing in beautiful gray days and knocking ice out of their rod guides and we are stuck in this damn bluebird kind of days and still wearing shorts and sandals. I am jealous. It is still too hot to enjoy a Young’s Oatmeal Stout. Big Dale Big Dale

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….It is still too hot to enjoy a Young’s Oatmeal Stout.

Unimaginable Dale.  Never been a fan of hot weather myself but it’s never too hot to drink a good beer, especially if it accompanies a nice mess of fried bluegills. And as the latter are something of a specialty of yours I should think you’d be in pretty good shape.  Bottoms up!

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Where are you Forrest? I’ve got a lot of empty bottles here I could fill for you. Cheers JK

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wish we had some of that rain! Forrest http://www.FlyFishingREVIEW.com FlyFishingREVIEW.com Before you buy.

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Big Dale, Don’t worry, that’s the one thing with the weather – I guarantee it will change (for better or for worse is the only question, and not even the meteorologists know that!). You wouldn’t believe it here today, not a cloud in the sky, no wind, 25deg Some how I have to tell my better half that I’m going to get some of those kingies at 5am tomorrow morning (New Years Eve), it might be my last chance. Cheers JK

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I’ve been boating for over 20 years and fly fishing for half of that…while waders will not "sink" you, they will act as a sea anchor if not used with a belt…they should  be great for keeping your feet warm when used with a dry suit…great idea.  KA I can’t imagine seriously wearing waders with the remote possiblility of a swim.  I’ve heard of several drownings resulting from waders filling up with water and sinking people like rocks.  Sure wouldn’t want to try it myself. …Steve Baker

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I can’t imagine seriously wearing waders with the remote possiblility of a swim.  I’ve heard of several drownings resulting from waders filling up with water and sinking people like rocks.  Sure wouldn’t want to try it myself. …Steve Baker

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Most people who drown in waders are wearing the old style rubberized canvass waders, they are big an baggy and would hold allot of water. Additionally most people who drown while wearing waders are not wearing a PFD.  Most modern waders are neoprene and have a snug fit.  Still you should always wear a belt to keep water from going down into the legs, and always wear a PFD, especially in cold water!!!!!!! SYOTR John Sims – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t imagine seriously wearing waders with the remote possiblility of a swim.  I’ve heard of several drownings resulting from waders filling up with water and sinking people like rocks.  Sure wouldn’t want to try it myself. …Steve Baker

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If you wear waders in white water, or anywhere there is a chance of a swim,  be sure to wear a good quality belt around the waist, and cinch it tight to keep water from getting into the bottoms.  Neoprene waders work best, but be sure and get ones that fit pretty tight.  From someone who has swam Double Z wearing waders, when he flipped a dory at 6′ in Late October, a few years back. SYOTR John Sims – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A couple of threads have mentioned wearing waders under paddling jacket. This sounds a little shakey (flooding etc), but I was thinking that I might try Gregg

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I tried it myself a couple years ago when I was playing with the Buzz SOT, and stayed bone dry. I made a neoprene belt. i dunno about classIV+ swims. Those experiments ended when I found a nearly new Kokatat dry suit for $200. But this winter I’ll combine them for a real cold trip. Gregg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -If you wear waders in white water, or anywhere there is a chance of a swim, be sure to wear a good quality belt around the waist, and cinch it tight to keep water from getting into the bottoms.  Neoprene waders work best, but be sure and get ones that fit pretty tight.  From someone who has swam Double Z wearing waders, when he flipped a dory at 6′ in Late October, a few years back. SYOTR John Sims A couple of threads have mentioned wearing waders under paddling jacket. This sounds a little shakey (flooding etc), but I was thinking that I might try Gregg

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A couple of threads have mentioned wearing waders under paddling jacket. This sounds a little shakey (flooding etc), but I was thinking that I might try neoprene waders under the dry suit. This would add a little more bulk and not all boats would have space. But putting the wader into the dry suit then donning the whole thing would eliminate wrestling with  the ankle gaskets. Feet would stay toasty dry, ass would also be warm and dry also and that alone should save lots of body heat. There might be excess air in the legs, but there wouldn’t be any reason not to walk out into 4′ feet of water for a quick burp out the neck gasket. This might actually be too warm for any padding when air temps aren’t below freezing, but that’s a risk I’d take. Risk of flooding would be exactly the same as the dry suit minus the waders . Maybe I should just get a thousand pair from China, slap on cool logos and sell them in Outside magazine for $200. Gregg

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In late August I will be fishing the deshutes near Bend Or.  At the Inn at the Seventh Mountain.  Does anyone have any information regarding this river, what to use, what to fish for and if it’s any good?  Please e-mail me and let me know.  Thanks in advance!

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The "squawfish" are fighting hard in that area.

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Closest would be Lava Island Falls area.  About a mile upstream is Dillon Falls.  Fishing anywhere in this area is good and from the Inn you can walk to them all. Just try using a large olive hare’s ear, bead head prince nymph, or tan elk hair caddis.  Check with The Patient Angler in Bend off of Colorado Ave., they will be able to give you any further advice on recent hatches.

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The "squawfish" are fighting hard in that area.

I hear that the black bullhead can really put up a dogged fight when hooked on a #4 corn fly.   -John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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In late August I will be fishing the deshutes near Bend Or.  At the Inn at the Seventh Mountain.  Does anyone have any information regarding this river, what to use, what to fish for and if it’s any good?  Please e-mail me and let me know.  Thanks in advance!

Hi Bryan, I would fish streams early and late in the day at that time of year. There are fly shops in Sister’s, Bend, Sun River and Camp Sherman. They can tell you about the fishing, what flies to use and can supply you with a guide. The lakes, like Crane Prairie, can be very good at that time, also. You have the Deschutes, Metolius, Crooked and Fall Rivers to choose from. The Deschutes river also has steelhead in July through October. I would try to find a copy of ‘Harry Teel’s No Nonsense Guide To Fly Fishing Central & Southeastern Oregon’, published by David Marketing Communications in Sisters, Oregon. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I’ll be travelling to Atlanta and I was wondering if I should carry my FF equipment with me. Any help? If yes, I’d apreciatte any info about places, access, equipments recommended any other suggestion. Thanks a lot, Pablo. BS.AS-Argentina

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I’ll be travelling to Atlanta and I was wondering if I should carry my FF equipment with me.

Yes If yes, I’d apreciatte any info about places, access, equipments recommended any other suggestion.

Email me with what you’re interested in and I’ll try and help. You have your choice of wild or stocked, large tailwaters or small freestones, trout or bass…etc Wayne Knight Geneva IL                            

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Morgan Brown < Congratulations, and welcome to flyfishing. The way you so vividly described your experience lends to my belief that your heart in is the right place for it. And secondly that you minor in literature or writing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve only been fishing for a couple months now, but the whole flyfishing experience has been a rebirth for my interest in fishing and of the outdoors.  Living in Golden, CO this summer, I’ve found the South Platte River near Fairplay to be an excellent fishing environment – close, uncrowded, full of trout, and beautiful. I fished the South Fork of the S. Platte near Hartsel one Sunday afternoon, still struggling to master the intricacies of actually fishing on the river, more concerned with my ability to snag and lose flies than to catch fish.  The sun edged toward the horizon, giving the remnants of afternoon thunderstorms a warm and heavenly golden-orange hue, and silhouetting the 14,000-foot peaks to the west.  Wading upstream in the gurgling, tepid flow of the stream, I casted to each alluring, grassy cut bank, struggling to keep my elk-hair caddis fly floating freely, scarcely believing that I could convince a brown trout that my offering was edible!  I gently placed my fly between an undercut grassy bank and a large boulder, when in a rush of fury, a decent-sized fish head roiled the water in the vicinity of my fly.  Madly, I stripped line toward me, trying to hook the fish.  Thankfully, he stayed on, and fought like a champion, rushing upstream, then downstream, around in circles, vigorously trying to throw my fly.  Finally I subdued the fish, gently cradling a beautiful 12" brown trout in my hands.  After I unhooked the exhausted fish and revived him in the steady current, I sat down on the cool, grassy bank, feeling the pleasant life-blood current of the stream course past my legs, and watched the slowly setting sun signal the end of day in God’s country.  I had experienced something that embodied true peace.  I stood in the stream, feeling nature rushing past my ankles.  I stalked the trout as I would a brother, fighting and beating him with all my heart, then released him as an equal, so we might fight again.  As visions of the madly-whirling world to which I would be forced to return flashed before my eyes, I wondered to myself: "How many of those people have caught a trout on a fly rod?"  Not many. Not many. — MORGAN P. BROWN                     Colorado School of Mines             Rice University                     Phone:   (303) 215-9190 URL:     http://timna.mines.edu/~mbrown           http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~mpbro

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Just plain wonderfull. –tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Morgan Brown < Congratulations, and welcome to flyfishing. The way you so vividly described your experience lends to my belief that your heart in is the right place for it. And secondly that you minor in literature or writing. I’ve only been fishing for a couple months now, but the whole flyfishing experience has been a rebirth for my interest in fishing and of the outdoors.  Living in Golden, CO this summer, I’ve found the South Platte River near Fairplay to be an excellent fishing environment – close, uncrowded, full of trout, and beautiful. I fished the South Fork of the S. Platte near Hartsel one Sunday afternoon, still struggling to master the intricacies of actually fishing on the river, more concerned with my ability to snag and lose flies than to catch fish.  The sun edged toward the horizon, giving the remnants of afternoon thunderstorms a warm and heavenly golden-orange hue, and silhouetting the 14,000-foot peaks to the west.  Wading upstream in the gurgling, tepid flow of the stream, I casted to each alluring, grassy cut bank, struggling to keep my elk-hair caddis fly floating freely, scarcely believing that I could convince a brown trout that my offering was edible!  I gently placed my fly between an undercut grassy bank and a large boulder, when in a rush of fury, a decent-sized fish head roiled the water in the vicinity of my fly.  Madly, I stripped line toward me, trying to hook the fish.  Thankfully, he stayed on, and fought like a champion, rushing upstream, then downstream, around in circles, vigorously trying to throw my fly.  Finally I subdued the fish, gently cradling a beautiful 12" brown trout in my hands.  After I unhooked the exhausted fish and revived him in the steady current, I sat down on the cool, grassy bank, feeling the pleasant life-blood current of the stream course past my legs, and watched the slowly setting sun signal the end of day in God’s country.  I had experienced something that embodied true peace.  I stood in the stream, feeling nature rushing past my ankles.  I stalked the trout as I would a brother, fighting and beating him with all my heart, then released him as an equal, so we might fight again.  As visions of the madly-whirling world to which I would be forced to return flashed before my eyes, I wondered to myself: "How many of those people have caught a trout on a fly rod?"  Not many. Not many. — MORGAN P. BROWN Colorado School of Mines Rice University Phone:   (303) 215-9190 URL:     http://timna.mines.edu/~mbrown         http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~mpbro

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Brady O. bet me one hundred dollars that if he had ten shots at permit he would catch one; this heightened my somewhat casual interest in poling into the wind. We had another shot at some mudding permit, then another.  Brady O. put the fly right on top of the fish in about 3 feet of water, let it drop, and I told him to strip when I saw a fish move on it and stop. He came tight and the fish took off.  After about 15 minutes he landed his first permit, a 17-pounder, and told me he loved me.   I was still trying to figure out how I lost that hundred dollars, and realized that my mistake was to assume he could not cast into a 20-knot wind.  Now I know. Marshall Cutchin

Marshall, just wanted to say that I for one, am LOVING your posts. I am rarely able to get to the keys and I am living vicariously…… Jack Jack Wheeler "A bad day fishing is better than… come to think of it, I never had a bad day fishing!"

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Brady O. and I cancelled yesterday after we woke up to a 20-knot north wind.  If we hadn’t gotten so bashed about the day before we might have tried it. Today we left running east along the oceanside and started fishing at Sugarloaf Key on a weak outgoing tide and with a good 15-knot northeast wind.  I wasn’t very hopeful because of the weak current but we did manage to spook one school of bonefish.  We then tried another inside flat for bones but no luck. As the tide started to change and come in we ran about 25 miles to the west on the oceanside of the lakes and fished the low incoming.  The wind and dark bottom kept us from seeing very well and we spooked some more fish: a small group of permit and a single.  We checked three other edges inside the Lakes and then another oceanside flat and came up empty-handed.  Finally, at about 3:30 I decided to try a couple of small oceanside flats just west of Key West.  We had a good shot at a tailing permit who glanced at the fly and took off.  The wind started to pick up and began to blow about 20 out of the southeast, but we had great visibility.  Brady O. bet me one hundred dollars that if he had ten shots at permit he would catch one; this heightened my somewhat casual interest in poling into the wind. We had another shot at some mudding permit, then another.  Brady O. put the fly right on top of the fish in about 3 feet of water, let it drop, and I told him to strip when I saw a fish move on it and stop. He came tight and the fish took off.  After about 15 minutes he landed his first permit, a 17-pounder, and told me he loved me.   I was still trying to figure out how I lost that hundred dollars, and realized that my mistake was to assume he could not cast into a 20-knot wind.  Now I know. Marshall Cutchin

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        I am interested in starting up my own guide service to those people in Japan who enjoy fly fishing.  I have been fly fishing for several years all over Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana.  I also speak Japanese fluently.  I am just looking to see if there is an interest among the Japanese in fly fishing.  I am close to graduation and the idea of being stuck in an office is horrifying.  If I can combine my language skills with something I love to do- fly fishing- I would be very happy.         If anyone can give me some advice on the best way to do some advertising I would greatly appreciate it.  If you are Japanese and can give me some feedback please e-mail me. (Eigo ka Nihongo…dochidemo ii desu)         Thanks for your help.

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I work for Japanese company and next to golf the Japaneses are getting into fly fishing in big way.  You idea sounds interesting and I have the same sentiments, however I have been working in Japan and Seattle for away.  Let me know your plans in more detail. Wayne

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Is it just me or is sea kayaking under going a rapid de-evolution ?    I can think of no other sport that is racing back to the future like it.   Skin boats,  thin wood paddles Greenland training techniques this stuff has been in use for 10,000 years .   Can any modern R.D dept. hope to come up with any thing that can withstand that test of time?

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Is it just me or is sea kayaking under going a rapid de-evolution ?    I can think of no other sport that is racing back to the future like it.   Skin boats,  thin wood paddles Greenland training techniques this stuff has been in use for 10,000 years .   Can any modern R.D dept. hope to come up with any thing that can withstand that test of time?

 I would’nt go so far as calling it a "de-evolution", the same thing happens with just about every sport out there – equipment becomes more and more sophisticated and technologicaly advanced. The original creation that started the whole process becomes lost to history. Just because I want to build a Baidarka doesnt mean I want to hold the rest of the world back – I just want something different – something that you just dont see very often, but is also recogizable as a part of past history – which is what makes it so fun. This is the reason I fly fish instead of using the latest in bait casting reels(but I use both), I also shoot a recurve bow(but I also own a compound), and I shoot black powder ( but I also have the most modern of arms). I’d be willing to bet that the modern R&D shops can and do design kayaks and canoes that are light years more efficient and durable than past boats, but evolution is the way of the world, and what better way to evolve than to look back to the past to plan for the future?

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