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    It is now the a.m. where in I can actually recognize the keyboard as a keyboard, not a checkers board.  The FBI has left my door and life is getting back to normal (who knew that using a keyboard as a checker board would hit the right url and password to deploy the black helicopters to Stewart, Iowa?).     I want to wish you all a happy New Year.  This has been a tremendous year of growth in my fly fishing skill, due in no small part to ROFFians. The Pirate’s School of Fishing With Floaty Pieces of Yarn, followed by Mike Makela’s School of Stare at the Water and Will the Fish onto your Hook (Zen subdivision) taught me nymphing.  Petah and the Pirate, after watching me go fishless all day, telling me I’ve got too much bow in my line (‘cudda said something earlier).  Wayno threatening to beat me silly if I flexed my wrist on my back cast.  Tony Norton getting me out on skinny water so I could learn stealth.     Did I fish as much as I wanted to this year? No.  Did I more than make up for it with new friends that accept me as me? Yes.   Folks who open their homes like Dave and Jo, Wayne and Dianna.  Guys who haul me from spot to spot like Stan, and the whole Boston Massacre II Clave crew.  Not one had ever met me, but you all came out to fish with me.  To Penns and Rappahannock crew and to all of you I’ve yet to fish with, to those who put in the wonderful TR’s and advice, even to those who’ve added a bit of controversy the group, I wish you all the best in the coming year. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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Frank, the pleasure was all mine.  I enjoyed your company and fishing with you.  I have named that pool on the Penns "The Frank Pool".    And, Jo and I are enjoying the quilt.   Best Wishes for a safe and wonderful New Year to you and yours, Frank.  Hope to see you at Penns. Dave

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Frank, the pleasure was all mine.  I enjoyed your company and fishing with you. I have named that pool on the Penns "The Frank Pool".    And, Jo and I are enjoying the quilt.   Best Wishes for a safe and wonderful New Year to you and yours, Frank.  Hope to see you at Penns. Dave

I’ll echo those comments – see you at Penns, beside the Frank Pool. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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If grasshoppers had machine-guns, the birds wouldn’t fuck with them and neither would I for that matter.  <BSEG — Opie  –Planning for the Past–

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If grasshoppers are bopping about then, you can’t beat them.

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I spend the summer there.  If you want to float with a guide, I would suggest the Yellowstone.  It seems the guides will be favoring either the Yellowstone or the Upper Madison, both about a 60 minute ride from Bozeman.  To wade/walk the Gallatin is just outside of Bozeman and flows south to north from Yellowstone National Park.  The other poster is right you’ve got many miles of water (go south, though, not north).  The lower Madison is too warm that time of year to spend time with if you’ve just a few days (it can produce early in the day).  July is caddis time.  The key for next summer will be water flows since the snowpack is only 50% of normal.  If you have time go to West Yellowstone (60 miles south), hire a guide and fish the Park.  The two biggest fly shops in town have websites, The Rivers Edge and Montana Troutfitters. Good Luck

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I have a friend who lives in Livingston, 26 miles east of Bozeman. You have good access to the Madison, Gallatin, and Yellowstone rivers. The Madison is absolutely beautiful, the Gallatin is nice, but the Yellowstone has been the most consistent producer of nice fish for both of us. South of Livinston is Daily Lake, which has nice fish. If grasshoppers are bopping about then, you can’t beat them. In article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks.

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Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

Head north man and you have the Gallitin for 50 miles or more. Joel Axelrad

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

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bs1776 YELLS: <<MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS). Why are you YELLING?  Where does this Pokras get his info? Loons populations here in New England are anything but endangered.  Besides, very little of the lead found in waters comes from fly fishermen. Dave LaCourse

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Lead has been banned in England for angling purposes for quite some time, as it was also suggested that many water birds, especially swans, were dying of lead poisoning due to ingestion.  Whether or not this is true, ( not many deaths were even proved to be attributable to lead poisoning), most of the lead in the waters concerned was coming from shotgun loads. I suspect this will be mostly the reason elsewhere too. BY THE WAY, THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT, I AM ONLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ATLANTIC ! TL MC

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(BS1776) writes: MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

May be we should all through our sinkers in the water to get rid of more of them.

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

Some loons should be endagered. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach "Lie ? Me ? Never!  No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun !" – Captain Hook

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Powlesland’s been licking the paint again, eh ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Please Take Your Penis Off Of The Shift Key. — Nicholas J. Slodki http://trampled.net/Nikolai0/

:MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE :THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY :1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- :HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

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Some loons should be endagered. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach

Would you perhaps be speaking of those AR loons?  When does their season open again?  I have to remember to buy about 20 tags. WF

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season open again?

Perhaps there is no open season because they should not be protected.Uh…is there a bounty on them? Big Dale

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HUH SAY WHAT HUH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – bs1776 YELLS: <<MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS). Why are you YELLING?  Where does this Pokras get his info? Loons populations here in New England are anything but endangered.  Besides, very little of the lead found in waters comes from fly fishermen. Dave LaCourse

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

George, is this a spam for Xink?

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I will be in the Pocatello, Idaho area in the next couple of weeks, and was wondering if someone could point me to some fly fishing streams. I won’t have a lot of time, so the closer the better.

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Try Portneuf River near Bancroft (just below Chesterfield Reservoir – in fact, try the reservoir) – 1 hour east, Fort Hall Bottoms spring creeks- 40 min north, South Fork Snake River – 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 hours north, Henry’s Fork – 2 hours north, Silver Creek – 2 hours northwest, or a horde of reservoirs within an hour and a half south and east. Stop in at Jimmy’s All Seasons Angler in Pocatello for the latest info. Lance Hankins – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be in the Pocatello, Idaho area in the next couple of weeks, and was wondering if someone could point me to some fly fishing streams. I won’t have a lot of time, so the closer the better.

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Let’s Get Us a Real River! The Red Cedar is the second biggest feature of our local natural heritage (first being farmland). But the river is vastly under-maintained, even though it’s vital to us. We impact it a lot and have great expectations of it. Why not see if there might be a way to improve the situation and start reaping the benefits that a quality river can give? What’s the river like now? A muddy ditch with a mucky bottom that floods when it doesn

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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You might check http://www.webpak.net/~rafter/    Vince’s Idaho Whitewater Page.  I believe he has a very complete set of links to flow gauges among other things Penny Specialty Outdoors: Sewing and Repair for Outdoor Enthusiasts Tips for making your own gear! http://www.nextdim.com/users/pschwyn/tips.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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Late runoff this year.  It has been cold and rainy/snowy up there.  I was in the area this weekend, and the pack is mostly gone finally. The creeks are running pretty good.  Johnson creek is running 1430 today.  Lots of rain has been keeping the ground saturated.   Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

 try this: http://www.idwr.state.id.us/idwr/planpol/techserv/flows.htm flows are steady but not outrageous due to cooler than norm weather.

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)?

2200 cfs yesterday. Are you planning on kayaking there?  If so when?  We will be there some time near the end of June. Bob Langley Winters, CA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon  try this: http://www.idwr.state.id.us/idwr/planpol/techserv/flows.htm flows are steady but not outrageous due to cooler than norm weather.

Jim, Thanks. I had not seen this page before. The Krassel gauge readout has always been our benchmark for the area. Particularly because there are often large discrepancies between flow on the E.Fork of the S. Fork (below Johnson creek) and the Upper S. Fork. Its funny that this is available yet I have called out there are the rangers don’t even know the Krassel gauge reading. Excellent resource. Thanks again. Jon

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? 2200 cfs yesterday. Are you planning on kayaking there?  If so when?  We will be there some time near the end of June. Bob Langley Winters, CA

Bob, Yes, we will be doing some paddling there. We are having a rendezvous of long time friends and will be at the Warm Lake campground from June 27-July 4. This group has paddled that area since the mid-70’s and has many long time class V paddlers. However, many of us the last 2 or 3 years have had kids and have backed off class V, primarily because we don’t have the time to paddle enough to maintain our edge to do class V safely and we tend to approach paddling with a group-oriented safety ethic. If you are around, come up to the site. We have the big group site at the Warm Lake campground. I don’t know if you will be able to scare up a group for class V but there will be paddling going on, as well as mtn. biking, flyfishing and general lounging. The trip has been structured to be more family friendly than our old hair trips. If you just want to paddle hair, this may not be your best group. Also, if you tend to be a solo wild card on the river, the may not be the best group for you as we are all very into 1) fun and 2) group safety. You decide. If you are around drop in a say hello and see what’s cooking. Jon McAnulty

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We’re planning a trip to St. Barth’s in May and wondered about the fly fishing possibilities.  Any suggestions, anyone?

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whenever i travelled to the caribbean i would bring along the spinning gear (now into flyfishing)…. i caught baby tarpon on st.maarten and ventured over to st.barts….i didnt have too much luck there but heard from some people there that there are tarpon there at the right time of year…whenever that is…so i assume the other normal fishing will apply….ie. barracuda and bonefish etc…i think it would be worth the effort….let me know how you do ok   frank in brrrboston

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Reading a local fishing ‘zine I found an article where the author claimed the use of really long leaders (16 to 25 feet) is unique to the Kamloops BC area. These leaders are favoured for chironomid and nymph fishing with a floating line and a weighted pattern. I seem to remember reading of this technique in US sources 10 or 15 years ago, well before I heard about it’s use in BC – and I suspect the technique may have been introduced to the area by visiting US anglers. Does anyone know about it’s use south of the 49th parallel for stillwater nymph fishing? Ralph H

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  Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly   Reading a local fishing ‘zine I found an article where the author claimed   the use of really long leaders (16 to 25 feet) is unique to the Kamloops BC   area. These leaders are favoured for chironomid and nymph fishing   with a floating line and a weighted pattern.   Does anyone know about it’s use south of the 49th parallel for stillwater   nymph fishing?   Ralph H

Leaders of that length are common on the South Island, New Zealand – especially for stillwater and for spot-fishing for large browns in rivers. Do you have formulae for these long leaders?  All I can ever find is 12′, and I’d like to tie some longer ones before I return next Feb. (98). cheers,         -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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I make my own very long leaders for use with size 24 to 28 downwings. I noticed that very large trout in our area come up to the surface to sip up small flies in the evening. When it is calm, you can barely see the surface disturbance. Usually it’s out in the middle of the lake. I then stalk the fish by canoe and wait to see another rise and then I try to guess where the fish is headed and cast in front. It’s a lot of work but I can usually catch a few nice fish. The long leaders I use are about 16 to 18 feet long and terminate at about 3/4 lb test.     P.S. up our way, the fish very often have no other food source because these lakes have no other fish species or minnows in them…..the trout are obliged to eat insects.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly   Reading a local fishing ‘zine I found an article where the author claimed   the use of really long leaders (16 to 25 feet) is unique to the Kamloops BC   area. These leaders are favoured for chironomid and nymph fishing   with a floating line and a weighted pattern.   Does anyone know about it’s use south of the 49th parallel for stillwater   nymph fishing?   Ralph H Leaders of that length are common on the South Island, New Zealand – especially for stillwater and for spot-fishing for large browns in rivers. Do you have formulae for these long leaders?  All I can ever find is 12′, and I’d like to tie some longer ones before I return next Feb. (98).

The only reference I have ( I haven’t fished leaders this long ) is to start with a 12ft commercial leader add a couple of feet of 20lb test to the butt end ( for a #6 line) and a couple of feet of tippet to the business end; 16 foot leader. A friend of mine who fishes the kamloops lakes a lot ( now lives up there) eschews tapered leaders period for nymphs etc. "You say I need 10foot leader 4x tippet?" and he just pulls 10feet worth of his 4x spool and loops  it to the end of line. Ralph H

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Reading a local fishing ‘zine I found an article where the author claimed the use of really long leaders (16 to 25 feet) is unique to the Kamloops BC area. These leaders are favoured for chironomid and nymph fishing with a floating line and a weighted pattern. I seem to remember reading of this technique in US sources 10 or 15 years ago, well before I heard about it’s use in BC – and I suspect the technique may have been introduced to the area by visiting US anglers. Does anyone know about it’s use south of the 49th parallel for stillwater nymph fishing? Ralph H

Hi Ralph, Hal Janssen of northern California has been promoting 25 foot leader on floating lines with streamline, fast sinking nymphs for over 20 years. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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   The book _Flyfisher_, by Jeremy Lucas, describes the use of really long leaders (often with a dropper or two) for stillwater nymphing in Britain. Though he does not say so directly, I infer from his descriptions that this is a standard technique for lake fishing in the UK.  This book is very well written and a worthwhile read for anyone interested in stillwater ffing.  I have tried some of his techniques and patterns, but I have not tried leaders over 12′.  I suspect that you could apply the 60:20:20 % formula to any desired length of leader.  The hatchery rainbows in the one lake I fish fairly often don’t seem to need a 20 ft leader or 8x tippet, but anything is worth a try on a bad day… –Roger, Portland OR

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I have the opportunity to spend a week in Denver in mid-June (8-14). I plan on fishing while there. Is there a concern about run-off and high water? What about the South Platte? Any other suggestions? Should I expect any dry-fly activity? I checked all of the CO – related web-links, but data on this time of year is not readily available. Any info is appreciated. Phil

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I have the opportunity to spend a week in Denver in mid-June (8-14). I plan on fishing while there. Is there a concern about run-off and high water? What about the South Platte? Any other suggestions? Should I expect any dry-fly activity? I checked all of the CO – related web-links, but data on this time of year is not readily available. Any info is appreciated. Phil

Phil, last year the run-off ended past mid July, it was a record season for kayaking. Also, A-basin, the highest ski resort, did not shut down for the summer. We got a lot of snow this year, too, and being conservative, I don’t expect to be dry fly fishing before July. Roberto — phone +303-492-3504       |  Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry fax +303-492-5894         |  University of Colorado at Boulder

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I have a short list of about a dozen fishing books (mostly fly fishing) these are out-of-print or first edition copies.  If you collect books on fishing, or just love to read about it (you probably do if you are on this list)  you might enjoy my occasional lists of sporting books. Thank you for reading. David Holloway

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Iam looking for a copy of "the compleat angler"can you help. nav9200

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